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My Dear fellow Biafrans and Nigerians, In light of some of the things going on in Nigeria right now, Like obasanjo launching his re election campaign two years ahead of time. the Economy is in shamble, the people confidence is at all time low. ques on fuel stations lines are back, corruption is at all time high despite the anti gratutuites law by NASS.

My question to some of you more intelligent and more educated pondits is this, do you think that Obasanjo deserve to be re- selected? to continue the destruction of Nigeria and Biafra in 2003. Over to you guys

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Biafra
To answer your question specifically,
"do you think that Obasanjo deserve to be re- selected?"

To be brief here, the "Selection Commitee"from what I beleive, have already taken him out of the Selection List.

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Biafra

The answer to your question is hell NO. Obasanjo doesn't even deserve to be a state Assembly legislature talk less of a president. A man who was rejected by his own ward. That means if Obasanjo had ran for State Assembly in Ogun state 2 years ago he would have lost woefully and yet he is running arround biting the finger that fed him.

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me i come to dis una forum wit clean belle, the thing wey me i dey see don teli me say all of una get bad belle towards nija and old board. bad belle no go make anytin better. me i know like say una dey put yabis for una friends wey dey other board. una get small mind, so dearfor, betta no dey for okra soup.

Una say una no be naijarians, wetin concern agbero with overload. wetin be una palaver with obasanjo if him get secon chance? make una dey pursue una biafra with IG nwafor, wayo man number one. he don pose as Biafra, now he be IG Nwafor, tomorro he go be Nwa Aro. Me I don tire. I don talk me own. Wetin begin wit wayo, na wayo go finis sham. Una don hear befor say 'wayo man die, na wayo man go bury am". Ashiri ti tu. wey mean say de secrit dom come out.


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E be like say Bush go support Obasanjo for re-election. Hahaha!
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The fact that Bush supports Obasanjo for re-election does not hail him a leader by it's definition. The fact still remains that Nigerians in Nigeria are not educated to make a choice between the economy, security, freedom and democracy.

I will not be suprised if he is re-elected by bunch of tugs in the north and not for his leadership quality, education or smart thinking. But by Nigerians with the miseducation rate of 75 percent. After all, he was not actually elected but selected by those who now scorn him and disparage his faculty.

Obasanjo is nothing that any democratic scholar in BiafraNigeria should be proud of as a president. His leadership is a meness to BiafraNigeria. I find him particularly repulsive to watch him in Press conferences and make mockery of civil rule. There is no command that he is in charge. His leadership lacks originality. He is of Yoruba extraction and that explains the reason why he has failed. Leadership among his tribe has been questionable credentials since the fall of Ilorin by few Hausa/Fulani rascals.

A platoon leader doesn't get his platoon to go by getting up and shouting, humiliating a citizen in the public, oblivious of the religion crisis that has consumed lots of lives. He does not brag that he is a soldier first, bigger and God sent. He gets his people to go along with him because they believe they want to do it for him and for the love of their country and they believe in him. Obasanjo posseses no single quality of a charismatic leader. He has bragged time and time that he will die to keep Nigeria together yet he came into Nigerian politics against his will. That statement trails with him and places a black hole in his leadership quality.

His leadership is useless when he acts against the promptings of his own people. He has failed, failed whole heartedly to muzzule the rantings of religious fanatics. It appears that every thing he does remains relatively lackadesical because he lacks compassion and other attributes credited to leaders. The man is simply a coward.

How fast do we forget? Remember in his two appearances as both head of state and selective Presidency, he showed no interest or rather reluctant to rule for fear of death and lack of leadership. He was forced against his will. quote. " I am asked to rule this country against my will" [head of state] And in 1999, " I do not have no interest in ruling Nigeria, I am retired in my farm".

To rule without compassion and violence against your own people is the essence of the gift of lack of leadership. To this I stick with the idea of "Hell No" 1,000 megabytes for lack of leadership in all factories. This question shouldn't have been asked for we already know the responses.

Hail Biafra

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Nasoubi Ajibola Robinson,

I believe it is time you take your backward self back to Sierra Leone where you belong. You are neither a Nigerian or a Biafran. You have no entitlement whatsoever to discussions about Biafra/Nigeria. Go join your fellow countrymen in the orgy of limb amputation. Your guttersnipe mind is warped.

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Bro Biafra,

The climate of things in BiafraNigeria has made it unlikely for Obasanjo to sanguinely continue at the helms of the shamble called Nigeria. With the current and on-going genocidal developments in the Middlebelt, northern and inevitably, western Nigeria, I doubt that 2003 election will take place in those parts of Nigeria. Nigeria is irretrievably lost.

As for the Biafran territory, it is a given that there will be no conduction of Nigerian election over there.
I'd rather channel my thoughts on the likely President of new Biafra Republic.

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Amanda:
Are you sure? I bet you, the same Igbo stocks who helped select Obasanjo would do the same, come 2003. And why? They have more access to make that happen.

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Bamidele:
Regardless, let me congratulate you for being a Senior Advocate of the magnificent Biafranigeriaworld Forum. You earned it, never minding your rhetorics. Also, be it known that I am not an advocate of your views.

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Ugali Shaga,

I'm sure. Granted that Obasanjo is greedily and desperately doing all he can to clutch on to his tinpot tyranny, including letting the US have easy access to the Talibans of northern Nigeria headquatered in Kano. However, this very act will spur the north to invade and attack Yoruba. The islamic sharia invasion initiated from Lokoja could start any day now. Then, Ilorin will be next.

This blatant act of aggression will prompt Obasanjo to deploy the US soldiers along with the Yoruba/Tiv soldiers already in wait for this anticipated development. The Hausa/Fulani army and the northern shariarists will be enraged and seek retaliation. Then US will do an "up close and personal" vent of their angry cluster-bombing and shooting operations in Afghanistan on the entire northern Nigeria.

With this loss of confidence in Hausa/Fulani, the US will applaud the newly independent Biafra that has emerged while they were bringing islamic jihad to its barbaric knees. Biafra will be negotiating directly with US for their oil sale. Naturally, the lapdog Britain will not spare a second's thought about their erstwhile deal with Hausa/Fulani. Therefore, Britain will be in line with the US/Biafra oil negotiation deal. They'd get a cut but US will have the lion's share of the oil deal, this time around.

The bottom line is that the islamic north's pilfering and destabilization of Biafra under the camouflage of Nigeria, has come to an end. Their Biafraphobia coupled with their barbaric islamic zealotry and blood-thirstiness inflicted a fatal wound on them. The dawn for prosperous Biafra Republic is here...to stay.

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Baimdele,

Congrats for your elevation as a senior advocate of Biafranigeria, though I think you don't deserve it. You never make sense.

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Amanda:
Again, are you sure congratulating Bamidele? How do we know it's just not a lip service?

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Ugali Shaga,

Yes, I'm congratulating Bamidele, and rightly so. It is not a lip service to congratulate any BiafraNigerian who made it to the senior advocacy level, regardless of their stance on issues concerning Biafra and Nigeria. It is the right thing to do.

Even you, should be cognizant of this courteous fair mindedness.

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Amanda:
Now I know it's fair play, which is good business. And, somehow, does it mean a dialogue is welcome for a one united Nigeria which I fervently believe we all should encourage for the interest of humanity?

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Bamidele,

Congratulations on your elevation to a senior advocate of BiafraNigeria. I enjoy reading your gutter pidgin, but you make life very awkward for our Oyibo forumites and visitors.

Congrats again and may your language improve.

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Bamidele

Did not merit a senior advocate on this board. Because he has not made any quality sensible post on this board. I am sorry Brother Ohafia I will not join in congratulating him. I think that his senior advocate designations should have an asterik.

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Bamidele:
Congratulations, but thread softly, softly, Mr. Araoke.

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Biafra,
I agree with u 100%. This Mkpi of Odua extraction shouldnot be congratulated.
Bamidele
U deserve nothing. U are the worst forumite that I have ever encountered. Your postings make no sense and u don't contribute ANYTHING. I haev congratuated people like Folanke but u Bamidele , "TUFIAKWA, MBA, WAA, NO"

No matter the views of other bloody Nigerians I still find them interesting but u. I will be very surprised if u ever went to elementary, talkless of Highschool of University.

Bamimumu,
My best advise to u is to get some education, quick quick. If it's possible u should enroll in a Primary School and then HighSchool then if u like u can go further to College. At least with Highschool education u won't be a 100% illiterate and domce that u are.

Biafra
My answer to your question is "Heck no."

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Olisiego Obusonjo, from every indication should not only be reselected come 2003 but must resign with immediate effect. A president would tell a Biafranigerian to "go to hell," when confronted with problems of a troubled nation; a president who would not be perturbed in a wanton killings of innocent citizens would tell the press and the world "I dey Kampe"; a president who would also tell the press "no be Obasanjo born am" when questions about probing Ibrahim Babangida is being raised; and a president in the last few days would tell Lagosians to "shut up" in the military depot explosions that claimed over 1000 lives, and still counting. What kind of a reckless and heartless leader is he? Another Caligula in this modern era?

Now, this buffoon has begun to woo Kema chikwe, the so-called Aviation minister, in order to boost his chances of reselection, whose home state does not have an airport; and an effective airport in the entire Igboland. "Aviation Minister" for what? To tell us we deserve whatever we get in today's Nigeria for his criminal activities? He must go and the time is now.

And, of course, the bitch would fall for anything as in all other efulefus. I feel for her, though, because she is so vulnereable to understand the situation and what she is exactly doing to her people.

But Obusonjo using Chikwe to unseat Achike Udenwa come 2003 would be a flawed strategy. That election will never hold.

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Folks,

A very interesting read, if you can about that jerk in Aso Rock.

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He was a reluctant Head of State after his boss Murtala Mohammed was assassinated. He had run into hiding while brave souls like General Akinrinade (rtd), Danjuma, Oluleye and others fought to thwart Dimka’s coup. In fact a search party was organised for the future Head of State who when found at first declined the position until he was assured of his safety.
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Again, it took the persuasion (or is it prodding or blackmail) of General Babangida, Gusau and Abubakar plus assurance for his safety as well as hefty financial backing totalling about N4 billion to persuade a reluctant Obasanjo to renege on his promise to stay out of politics and to become a Presidential candidate of the party chosen for him by his mentors.


Sunday, 3rd February, 2002
By Dele Shobowale

"Shut up! I took the opportunity of being here to see what could be done. I don’t need to be here".

President Olusegun Obasanjo, January 28, 2002.

Once upon a time, and it appears about a century ago, General Olusegun Obasanjo was a respected international statesman; one of the Eminent Personalties often consulted by the United Nations and other multinational organisations for advice on various issues especially those affecting the Third World in general and Africa in particular. He has earned that status on account of his relinquishing power voluntarily to an elected civilian government in 1979 instead of engaging in activities aimed at self-perpetuation in office for which Gowon, Babangida and Abacha remain condemned for ever. He was a reluctant Head of State after his boss Murtala Mohammed was assassinated. He had run into hiding while brave souls like General Akinrinade (rtd), Danjuma, Oluleye and others fought to thwart Dimka’s coup. In fact a search party was organised for the future Head of State who when found at first declined the position until he was assured of his safety. As Shakespeare (1564 - 1616) had written over three hundred years before: "Some have greatness thrust upon them"

Because Obasanjo came reluctantly and unexpectedly to power in 1976 he, understandably arrived without any discernible ideology or paradigm for governance. Having spend his entire life in the drab anti-intellectual and brutish army barracks of his day, he was ill-equipped to govern except in a totalitarian state where dissent was not allowed. But fortune smiled on him because the price of crude oil escalated from 1976 and 1978 to an unexpected height providing his administration with unprecedented revenue to spend.

"Money makes everything legitimate, including bastards" according to a Jewish proverb. And the Murtala Mohammed-Obasanjo-Yar Adua governments with more money to spend than any of its predecessors could do no wrong; at least then. Today, the International Trade Fair complex in Lagos, the National Theatre and the waste called Festac 77 bear testimony to the folly inherent in the economic choices made at the time. In fact many of the enterprises which President Obasanjo’s government now want to privatise were the same enterprises General Obasanjo established.

His voluntary retirement in 1979 placed him in the front ranks of statesmen because it was unprecedented especially when the likes of Mobutu, Eyadema, Banda, and now Mugabe, Moi clung to power as if it was their God-given property. It was his well-deserved status as a statesman which made his arrest, detention and imprisonment by Abacha’s government such a global concern inducing former Presidents and eminent people worldwide to plead for his life and release from incarceration. His eventual release from jail by General Abubakar in 1998 added martyrdom to statesmanship. And in retrospect, Obasanjo should have realised that his cup of good fortune was getting close to running over.

He declared no interest whatsoever in politics during his first few Press Conferences and people believed him because in reality, self-preservation is a strong instinct in Obasanjo. Again, it took the persuasion (or is it prodding or blackmail) of General Babangida, Gusau and Abubakar plus assurance for his safety as well as hefty financial backing totalling about N4 billion to persuade a reluctant Obasanjo to renege on his promise to stay out of politics and to become a Presidential candidate of the party chosen for him by his mentors.

Again, Obasanjo came to the helm without a coherent set of political, social, diplomatic and especially economic programmes. To be sure the African Leadership Forum which he founded had organised a series of workshops and seminars over the years Obasanjo was out of office. But most of the products of those seminars and workshops were at best purely theoretical and at worst impractical based as they were on insufficient and incomplete data. Obasanjo arrived the Presidency once again without a clear idea of how to go about governance. In his first interview after election with CNN television, he announced three things as top on his agenda: poverty alleviation, eradication of corruption and "transparency-and-accountability". Even a first year economics student knows that those three things while desirable were not the ingredients for rapid economic growth, stable exchange and interest rates and job creation which constitute the trio of core macroeconomic indices against which governments are primarily judged. Neither do they greatly impact foreign direct investment; capacity utilisation and improving technology as well as national competitiveness. But the euphoria accompanying the departure of ruinous and treasonable military regimes blinded almost everybody to the fact that the newly-elected President lacks any discernible agenda. Obasanjo’s Economic Blueprint that was hastily cobbled together about six months after his inauguration was a poor carbon-copy of the VISION 2010 economic paradigm mainly because it lacked the specificity which made "V-2010" a compelling document despite its minor faults.

If Obasanjo’s briefcase was almost empty of economic ideas, it was totally barren of social idea required to move the nation forward. Within a year Obasanjo had emerged as "a man who cherishes great ideas but has performed only small acts". (Johann Schiller 1759 - 1787). Till today, less than four months before the third anniversary of his return to office, there is no single major achievement to his credit except Ministry of Foreign Affairs ably managed by Alhaji Sule Lamido. "Promises" for Obasanjo like Lenin are like pie-crusts made to be broken". As recently as November 2001 the President was still promising uninterrupted power supply by December 31, 2001 even when every knowledgeable person in the Ministry of Power & Steel, Hon Lyel Imoke’s Task Force NEPA and private sector power providers knew it was impossible. This is February 2002 and power failure persists (may be not so surprising) the President has not bothered to apologise to his "slaves". Nobody forced him to promise NLC,. 25% salary increase in 2001. The year ended with the President reneging on that promise. Then it was fuel price increase which was disavowed last year but which resurfaced this year. Poverty alleviation has all but been neglected. Corruption thrives even in Aso Rock; because what other name can one give to a President signing a hurriedly patched bill at 2.00 a.m. without vetting by his Minister of Justice. And Obasanjo must be the only person who believes there is more accountability now than before. Security? Forget it.

Generally, event beyond his control have combined to diminish Obasanjo’s status. He now comes across less and less as a competent leader and increasingly as someone just muddling through. But what is actually cutting Obasanjo down to size are his conduct and utterances. Power apparently intoxicates him more these days than before and he sometimes lets himself speak unchecked. Insulting journalists who asked about Generals refusing Oputa invitation; calling Professor Aluko senile; declaring Ojukwu insane are only a few examples of a President whose utterances drag the office he holds into the mud.

Obasanjo however surpassed himself on the Monday after Black Sunday in Lagos. An excited, grief-striken crowd had gathered round the President wanting to know what he would do. Rambling on and on without getting to the point, the President provoked grumbling by impatient people living on minutes or seconds wanting to know if the Federal government which devastated them will at least repair damaged lives and help bury the dead. Instead of sympathy what the people got was "Shut up."

On that day, a good chunk of what is left of Obasanjo’s stature as a statesman went down the Ajao Estate muddy waters. All we now have in Aso Rock is a politician and a poor one at that. God help us!.

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Bamidele,

Welcome to the club. But do please consider writing in English. Its indeed kind of tiresome reading the pidgin. One could put that extra time spent trying to decipher all that jumble to better use. Hope your apostle nasounabi, takes a cue when you turn a new leaf. The Senior Advocacy is a dignified state and you join the rarefied company of pedigreed folks (minus a few odd stragglers).

BTW, saying that Bush may support the re-selection bid of the Aso Rock buffoon doesn't amount to much considering how he (Bush) came to be in the White House in the first place. Selection galore, bumbling galore, celebration of ineptitude, and what else?

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Crack head Anu Nti:
What the hell are you talking about regarding the most popular and highest rated U.S. president, in recent times?

Think, Mr. philosopher.

Listen to Amucha 1 saying "that election will never hold." Keep dreaming.

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Triad Ugali,

Of course, you'd considrer him in such glowing terms. Birds of the same feather ------. Would he be so considered but for Afghan blood?


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