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Adojohn: How ironically prophetic of you? Just as you predicted that once there is "no One else to devour You'll turn on each Other," one of your own brothers turned on you and looks poised to devour you, or is it the other way round? Chei.
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Ayodele and Adekunle, welcome to this great board. I appreciate your contributions. Our intention here is to get to hear from your people about their take on our assertion that they cannot be trusted or counted on at crucial times. Granted that its a general statement, we acknowledge that there are many of your tribes people who are exception to this generalization. Like you rightly pointed out, we have a trust issue with the Yoruba which need to be explored and settled.
This lack of trust based on historical facts will always put a monkey wrench on southern solidarity. If the Yoruba had delivered on (any of) their solidarity promises, the South would have been basking in their status as FREE and DEVELOPED nation(s). The North would not have had the hegemonic strangle-hold they have on our collective growth and development.
So in all, even as we resent the Northern strangle-hold on us, we resent even more, the Yoruba back-stabbing that has kept us where we are today in Nigerian space and polity. Since mutual trust is not around the corner, the best approach is to support each other in Actualizing Biafra and Oduduwa Republic, respectively.
That was well written and well balanced opinion of what the issue of this thread is all about. I hope that those who felt that we are bashing the Yorubas will take the time to read and comprehend the main crush of this debate. The trust and lack of it between the Igbos and the Yorubas.
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Ndigbo: Often said that in any group there are normally some wise men. Your comments summarise the 'kernel' of my discussion and I quote:
quote:We have wasted enough time bashing OO, Hausas, Yorubas, Big Steve and whoever on this board. IT IS LEADING US TO NOWHERE ISLAND! If it makes anybody feel good it does not make me. If we need to actualize Biafra lets us work towards that and stop this absurd nonsense. ...Ndigbo
Great words. Don't be deterred, the truth is bitter, and denials are weapons of the foolish.
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Biafra nwannem nwoke, I hear you and accept my heart-felt gratitude for your encouragement. You are an ispirational pillar for us children of Biafra. Please keep up the good fight. Together, we shall all taste freedom!
Those fence-straddling Ibos will get cut with their pants down when this ill-tailored cloth called Nigeria burst at the seams. Now is the time for them to adjust their mindset and start thinking and behaving as Biafrans. If they don't start looking for the black goat now, they'd never find it at nightfall. Just because we say that we'd peacefully actualize Biafra doesn't mean that others won't resort to violence against the Igbos and (Ibos) alike who reside in their enclaves. Its time the Chubas and Ednuts out there get the picture.
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Dave: I am from DELTA, and not aware that Anioma is part of BIAFRA. May be you need to tell me something I do not know. Are you presupposing that Igbos outside the Southeast should be drafted, even when the 'kernel' of the new Biafra is not known? Some of us are not blindfolded in not knowing that some Igbos(Delta, Akwa-Ibom and Rivers) are being used for demographic and political reasons. Their interests are not part of the new Biafra's woolly vision. I do not know what the new BIAFRA stands for. What I have read on this forum does not encourage me to join forces with 'locusts'.
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Chuba, From your point of view, the Anioma people should straddle the fence where Biafra Actualization is concerned. Now I see why you're miffed that Pro-Igbo Orji Kalu got our endorsement for 2003. I feel sad for you. Its 'damned if you are and damned if you're not'. You've displayed your deep felt hatred (Cain's hatred for Abel) for mainland Igbos. Whatever that is eating you, let it keep eating you, ALONE. No one can redeem you but yourself. Unfortunately for you, you don't speak for the Igbos in the Delta area.
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Amanda: I now see that you are confused. What is mainland Igbos? Do you speak for them? As I once said, some see only themselves in the mirror. That is the deceit. Jealousy between Cain and Abel? The thrash is coming out.
Honestly, I am off this forum into ROM. Intelligent discussions cannot be held when dealing with people as Amanda with desultory arguments and thoughts. Do not bother to write back. Keep your thoughts to your chest. Bye,
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Dave: You struck a very raw nerve in Chuba. Oh my God! The Chuba boy has issues. I did not realize that Chuba was nursing so much bitterness and resentment for Igbos. I guess that is easy since he is only and "Ibo." Too bitter. Chuba needs our pity, not our anger.
Amanda: You are certainly right. Chuba does not speak even for the Anioma people. I am married there, and I know that Chuba, if he is Igbo, is only a part of a very tiny minority of hate-filled whiners.
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The divisive deceitful coward that you are has finally come to the fore. Since you materialized on this forum, you have done nothing but try to sow some evil GM (genetically modified) seeds of discord...from thread to thread.
The sabo fence stradding sycophant that you are has finally silenced you to shame. Everytime we are discussing something meaningful and uniting, you always come up spewing stinking nonesense. You've snivelled and kissed dirty a**** all your life dreaming about a crumb or two without satisfaction or self worth. Self worth will continue to be elusive to you as long as you maintain this your deplorable attitude.
By the way, HAPPY ROM, and don't be in a hurry to come back, EFULEFU.
As much as I respect your right to voice your opinion and debate what you believe in. I am yet to see you make a single contibution to any issue on this board since you joined. We all don't have to agree even children from the same mother and the same father do disagree often. But you have continued to attack and pick fights with Igbos unfortunately since you joined this forum. whether is your assertion that you are Ibo not Igbo or calling the rest of us educated illiterate. We have respected your right to have those views but to continue to insult people is unbecoming of you.
You are the one that said you are very Anioma Delta State that you are not Southeast core Igbos. You are the one that have continued to differentiate who is core Igbo and who is not. Whether is your been Ibo not Igbo or your been from Delta State not Heartland. Now as soon as Amanda responded to you, you resort to insult. Please Brother if you don't have anything meanful to contribute may be it will be best if you remain in the ROM until you have something to contribute.
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The presence of 'traitors,' such as Chuba, in our midst is a clear sign that we must ALWAYS be vigilant. Dikeanatuegwu was spot-on about Chuba being up to no good. I am glad that Chuba has been consigned to the trash can, which is where he properly belongs. I am sure that there will be other rodents like Chuba to emerge in the future. We are ready.
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brothers and sisters as much as it hard to resist the temptation to respond to chuba and his tantrum. lets not waste our time dwelling on chuba, his mission here is clear that is to cause disruptions. He started that by been Big Steve's spokesperson and defender of yorubas. I think the more we waste time responding to chuba tantrum the more he feels that his mission is accomplished, so lets not give him that pleasure.
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Ayodele/Adekunle, You guys are highly welcomed to this all-accomodating board. It is good to hear Yorubas like you make your own case, unlike the likes of Chuba & Co who tried in vain to be more Catholic than the Pope. Luckily, you guys discovered that they are not only out to cause disaffection, they are here to use insults to intimidate people they cannot convince through logical argurements. Unlike other cencored discussuion forums, this board gives everyone the opportunity to air their views but what brought the type of reaction the Chubas of this board have received is because instead of argureing pro or against the question asked in this thread, they went out to label people as though anyone here is afraid of such senseless labels. The question a sensible person should ask him or herself is if Nigeria as a country produces such amount of "educated illiterates" according to Adjohn, doesn't that show that Nigeria has failed as a country? Isn't that the more reason why these "educated illiteterates" should question those who made them so ignorant while others are so educated and intelligent? Since you the Yorubas who have contributed to this thread so far are tolerant enough to hear from "educated illiterates" like me, I will also reciprocate your maturity by say that I recognise the fact that not ALL Yorubas are against Igbos nor are ALL Igbo with the Igbos or for the Igbo interests. Just like when the Lagos-Ibadan press talk about the North, they do not I suppose mean that EVERY Northerner is enemy of the south, rather, they mean the Nothern politicians. The fact is that whenever reference is made of the action or in-action of a certain geo-political region or tribe in Nigeria, as I understand it, those making such statements actually mean politicians coming from that tribe or region. The Chubas on this board knows this perfectly well, however, like I said, they are here for different reasons and mission and you can see it by their super-intelligent but meaningless and divisive argurements. Good that you guys did not fall in/on their trap.
Amanda, Congratulations for your well-deserved promotion!.
All, Lets ignore Chuba & Co before they succeed in diverting our attention from the topic in discussion, lets ignore him and his likes and their insults. This board and members of this board have shown that we are above intimidation or blackmail. Lets continue with this interesting, nonetheless controversial topic.
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Brothers Administrator, Biafra, Big Guy, and Nwa Aro, and my other siblings, thank you so much for the senior member status bestowed on me. It is because of your collective steadfastedness on this board that I earned this title.
I shall continue fight the good fight alongside you great people. Thanks for the privilege!
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Ifeanyi Chukwukere Obigbo Member Member # 84 Member Rated:
posted April 04, 2001 08:29 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Osetutu: I think you are right. Let's utilize our free speech. By the way, have you guys come across a Yoruba who accepted the fact Igbos were wronged? I haven't. So, what does that tell us? I for one would not trust any Yoruba man and would not engage myself in any sort of business even if it entails a staggering fortune. --------------------
Onyemaechi Member Member # 37 posted April 05, 2001 06:38 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only a dumb Igbo can expect anything good to come out of association with the Yoruba. Even in a football match between the Enugu Rangers and the Mehala Boys of Egypt. The Yoruba crowd at the Suru Lere Stadium was rooting for the Egyptians and booing the Rangers. The Biafran Rangers won anyway. If the Yoruba could find a way to boo Nwankwo Kanu and the Biafran members during a Super Eagles game and root only for the Yoruba members of the team, they would do so. There is a handful of Yoruba people who are able to look a few inches beyond their tribe. However, that number is dwindling by the minute. That is my take. You trust the Yoruba at your own risk.
Nwa ARO: The above comments were Posted By members of Your "GANG". Suffice To say that To assert that what has been Posted On this forum about Yorubas goes way beyond the actions of the Political elite.
The fact that The Yorubas FROM A poloitical Perspective are divided themselves is Lost On most of You. The fact that YORUBAS like Abiola, Omoboriowo and the like went against AWO in the 83 elections to deliver several Western states to the Northern Dominated NPN appears to be also lost on some of you ...
You yourself, NWA ARO have said some pretty nasty things Your back pedaling In Your last post above notwithstanding. Again folks May God bless You all and forgive me for Going back On my word About Posting here again..
I look forwrd to the actualization of Biafra But Lord have mercy on Biafra if some of You folks on this forum end up as Biafras leaders ..
PEACE OUT FOLKS ..IT's been real
PS: Onyeamacha My Brother ...The Lagos Crowd is Known for Booing any Nigerian squad That fails To Live Up to billing. Theyve done It to shooting and they's ve done It To Rangers and BTW the Lagos Soccer Crowd is By no means a Yoruba Preserve
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Adojohn: The type of response you just gave is something you could have done a long time ago. Instead, you joined Efulefu in his aimless noises. You sought to continue a fight here that you may have been involved in with members of this forum elsewhere. I am sure it surprises you that people have really tried to be civil to you here. Remember, your 1,2,3 countdown to attack? There were no takers.
Anyway, you and Efulefu keep threatening to go into ROM. But, I see that BiafraNigeriaWorld is too sweet to let go. Enjoy yourselves, brothers. I think that Efulefu is too bitter to enjoy himself.
My question to you is why did the Yoruba crowd keep booing the Biafra Rangers even after the Rangers won the game?
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What sets this board apart from all others is that there are no sacred cows, and all issues, even Osu/Diala are fair game. I agree that threads should focus on their topics. But, let us not be too hasty in foreclosing on important issues just to avoid problems. We are not problem avoiders.
If Igbos gave confidential information to a certain Steve Nwabuzor, another Igbo, and Steve is passing that information to the public or to enemies of Ndigbo, then that issue can be discussed in this forum and in this thread, especially where the information may have been passed to the Yoruba.
Unfortunately, Chuba was not emotionally or intellectually prepared to present a good defense of his "giant." Ndi-Igbo si na ogbara nkiti ekwena, meaning he who remains silent when he should speak up has accepted the comments made of him. Nwabuzor is silent.
Amanda: Congratulations. I am proud to know that we have sisters like you in Biafra.
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Brother Ezeka Onu, How are you today, my brother? I hope fine. I am sorry to write this, but permit me to say that I find your last posting to be very troubling, particularly for a brand new Board as this. I love to come here and visit all my siblings, when free and mad at our Leaders, for my protracted economic exile, from my village. This is so true, particularly, for my siblings that I cannot see, nor read from (any longer) on the Nigeriaworld Forum.
But, your insistence on opening healing wounds is very troubling to this sibling. Even the Good Book advices us to forgive our siblings 70x7 times, daily. Jesus, on his glorious judgement of a prostitute, showed the hypocrisy of mortal beings, by advocating for the first among the Jews, "without sin," to cast the first stone. What a profound judgement, it was!
Your personal attacks on your brother, "Big Steve" is worrisome. I am not a Lawyer, but there could be some legal violations for bringing up his real name (amid some hear-say statements) without his consent, considering he is neither a Public Official, nor a member of this wonderful Board. I cherish the idea of this Board's creation, and its freedom to all. But too much of everything could, sometimes, become a disease. It couldn't have been more true as in Nigeria. Let us heed to the advice of our brother, the erudite "Tunde Onabanjo", when he wrote:
quote: My appeal to you is: TO RISE ABOVE THE EASY TEMPTATION, AND DO NOT REDUCE THIS FORUM INTO JUST ANOTHER ETHNIC-BASHING AND PERSONAL MUD-SLINGING AFFAIR. LOOK FOR AND PROFFER ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS. I think this board deserves very decent debates, well thought-out analytical write-ups, and sound solutions. Of course, who says you can't have a good fight in between every once in a while?
It couldn't have been better written. You do not wish to see this Great Board reserved for "Bash-O-Mania". Or do you? Wouldn't ALL be game? I am most certain, the Webmaster and the Directors couldn't have invested their hard-earned dollars for that. Could they? I am certain it was for some useful dialogues: pros and cons, among brothers and sisters who, sometimes, would agree to disagree, where in the final anlysis, anyone perusing the threads could easily learn a few. Isn't that what we (the educated ones) are supposed to impart? Otherwise, what would separate us from a Palm Wine Tapper, in my village?
I will continue to appeal to all: Let us forgive the past and sheath our swords. We may need every sword available, should there not be some desired changes, ahead. I, respectfully, thank you.
yours is a voice of reason, however sometimes we can not for the sake of political correctness shy away from issues that touch on our past and history. Yes everybody is clamouring for southern solidarity, but unless we put all the cards on the table and come cleaning and resovle past misstrust and betrayals we will not get far with southern solidarity. personally I don't believe in this southern soilidarity. My personal preference will be for former Eastern Region to reconcile the issues between us and the eastern minorities before calling for southern solidarity.
I will have to agree with COLO that we have to let by gone be. Also, I will advise that you consider editing your last post so as not portray this messageboard in a bad taste. Lets move on brother.
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Brothers COLO and Ednut: I used "Big Steve's" real name very advisedly. I know that after many months of using the fake name, "Big Steve," Steve Nwabuzor authorized laolu akande to publish his name on Nigeriaworld. laolu did as he was authorized. Again, Steve should be allowed to speak for himself. At least we know that if Steve decides to defend himself, he will not be banned the way his opponents at NigeriaWorld were banned to clear the way for him.
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Brother Ezeka Onu, I want to sincerely thank you for your candid response. It is still my feeling that an eye for an eye leaves brothers blind; and we should call a truce. But, we're ALL mature adults.
As I was checking my email, I noticed that (among my several mails), brother "Big Steve" had sent an email to me, for some assistance. According to his note, he had read both your earlier and last postings, on this Board. From his letter, it seems obvious that he'd written, earlier, to the "BiafraNigeriaWorld Webmaster", before your last. I guess your last one did the trick(?) "Why me?", I had intended to ask; but reading further, he'd already provided the answer - "Because of your concerned and earlier postings on BiafraNigeriaworld."
I considered this favor, positively, since he insists on NOT joining this particular Board. As a respectable sibling of mine, I'd consider this his FINAL RIGHT. It can be a bit busy, sometimes, for such.
Here goes his letter:
quote: To : webmaster@biafranigeriaworld.com Date : Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:34:30 EDT Subject : Re: Maligning of Character: Steve Nwabuzor
Dear Webmaster:
I have read through some comments on your website about my person 'Steve
Nwabuzor'. The comments have not been in good taste and amounts to calumny.
The individuals that are spreading this distasteful behavior are hiding under the disguise of 'pen names' which your website has provided.
As a matter of principle, I have decided not to join your forum. This e-mail
therefore is to alert you that the threshold of privilege is being reached.
As such, it the use of my name continues on your website, I may have no
option but to seek applicable remedy under law.
I am an Igbo and commend your effort in creating an avenue for their expression. I would not want to be the person to smear what you have started, as such it is my suggestion that you caution 'registered' members of your messageboard, in order not to drag your website into unnecessary and avoidable litigation. The use of my real name while not a public official in Nigeria or elsewhere is damaging my business and reputation. Please desist forthwith.
All: Only a foolish man sends corresspondence on his own when he claims he has a lawyer. Some of you don't get it. BiafraNigeriaWorld is TOO BIG TO BE INTIMIDATED by the whining of any Nigerians. Not even Obasanjo or his lawyers can intimidate us. We have our own lawyers. I hope we do not need to educate Steve and his lawyer on what to do if they wish to be taken seriously. So far, we are not moved.
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