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Thanks to Zaiyol, I may not have known that this board existed.

I came, I saw but yet to MAKE an opinion.
I came, I saw and noticed the name BiafraNigeria.

I came, I saw the writings and rantings of writers. Writers who believe that they were wronged. Wronged for being censored. Censorship, I believe, is the weapon of the people at the center of everything. Using censorship signifies that some people don't want to hear opinions in variation to theirs. And that is the hallmark of backwardness and failure. Mark the word failure.
And writers did exactly what I presumed caused the censorship---- Being too pro- Community. There is word for that--- yea, I remember-ethnocentric.

Meanwhile, the name BiafraNigeria sends a very strong message. A powerful message-- We against them. That name alone speak volumes.


What does the name signify? Is it open to interpretation?
These are a few---
1. I am an Igbo who hates being in the geographical enclave called Nigeria.
Meanwhile,all the successful messageboards are moderated and probably owned by peoples affiliated or within the enclave of the former Eastern Nigeria.

2. Though I am a Biafran, I am still a Nigerian as indicative of BiafraNigeria.
3. This is a revolution. This board does not qualify for that appelate.(My opinion)

Though the writings are rants and ravings, I am waiting to see when issues of National importance are given adequate weight. National, being Biafran Nationalistic Or Nigerian nationalistic. Take your pick.
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Sam,
I have no idea what your motives are in playing the devils advocate. If you don't know, hence, your ignorance, know it by now that Biafranigeriaworld entirely suggests that, it has dawned on most Nigerians, if not all, that we are still in bad shape regarding free speech, but we do not know what to do about it. We are so far from reality, it is becoming more frightening to believe in ourselves. We are torn and can't decide. Most of you out there in Nigeriaworld, I believe, wanted to condenm the management of Nigeriaworld for their censorship but couldn't; they lacked the words and courage. Condemning Nigeriaworld Message Board for its outrageous censorship would have sent a strong message that we no longer belong to a banana republic.

Members of Nigeriaworld Message Board could have done something useful but did not; their problem was not zeal, it is zeal-lessness. They could have bouycoted the entire messageboard and all its affiliate, but they kept quiet. Who cares, it his own business. Write rubbish and I will delete your name without caution. Such were typical of Nigeriaworld Message Board. And how about the bias boardmaster? Did we have a clue on what he was doing?

The question here is: where do you guys in Nigeriaworld stand on free speech? Are we back to the days of Abacha? And are we applauding Nigeriaworld for its senseless censorship? Uncle Sam, you just don't get it.

Biafranigeriaworld has proved that action speaks louder than words. They said it and they did. Be it known that here, you are uncensored and has every right to express your views. That is democracy and I believe we should uphold that phenomenon.

Next time, before you write, think.


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Brother Paul Ibekwe

I couldn't have said it any better, Uncle sam should be happy he is welcomed to a board where his views will not be censored no matter how contrary to majority opinion. Yes we may rant and vent here that was the opportunity denied us at the Nigeriaworld obard. Here We debate issues, vent if you will attack and expect to be attacked in return. This Board is not for pretty sissy and faint hearts.

If you can't stand the hit get out of the kitchen. One thing is that your opininon will not be censored, Our motto here is uncensored and uncut. what you see is what you get.

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Sam

It appears you have an over developed sense of self importance, if I came accross a people who were ranting and raving, I would not waste my time on their board.

For the umpteenth time if any of you folks don't like it around here leave us to our raves and rants.I believe most folks here are adults and don't need any lectures from know it alls, spend your time and effort raving and ranting about Nigeria.

Yes we will bash Obasanjo, yes we will hail Biafra, yes we will rant and rave because we have a right to do so.Start getting used to it if you intend to hang around.


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Sam, you have dabbled into the wrong site.
Don't let your held breath expire while waiting to be prove wrong here.
Your anti Igbo pose on your favorite board is noted. What's your problem? Got bored and need some fix from ranters and ravers?

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The more we respond to Sam's rhetorics, the more he enjoys his popularity. Let's leave him alone.

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Sam,
Welcome to the board. I really do not understand when you write about suggestions to move Nigeria forward. Here is a country where people have always made suggestions about the way forward for the past 30+ years but, have been ignored either out of disrespect, hatred , selfishness, greed tribal interests or simply that the truth was too painful for some people to deal with. They prefered to bury their heads in sand , hoping that the problems of the entity called Nigeria will simply vanish.
People shouted themselves hoarse calling for an SNC.They were simply ignored, or called all sorts of names. Now it is too late to salvage Nigeria. I would be very happy if this was not the case, but alas it is time we cut our losses and moved on.
We have always believed in the fire brigade approach, despite its not achieving any result. The Ijaws felt cheated, they cried out , Nigeria did not deal with their complaints, now it has to deal with Egbesu boys. The Igbos cried and are still crying,no attempt to redress it, out comes MASSOB. Yorubas and OPC, In the north I understand that their is an equivalent. This is symptomatic of the way Nigeria is heading. This is the time to take the bull by the horns and deal with it finally(a peaceful and amicable seperation.) Failing to do this , I fear that Nigeria would move into the next stage ie people getting impatient with the progress of MASSOB etc and opting for violence.
40+ years invested in Nigeria is a lot, but at some stage one has to cut ones loses. The views which you hold about Nigeria at present, has been held by many of us, whose views you find distasteful, in the past. The only difference between our views is that you still feel the situation can be remedied while I hold on to my view that we have passed that stage.
Have you ever wondered why MASSOB has as its support base mostly people born in the post war years.

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Uncle Sam, son of Sam or whatever, your cordially welcomed on this address that is what this address is all about. The Freedom to express yourseelf. The BiafranNigerianWorld constitution does provide everyone here the right to be stupid,unselfish, and not being censored. I will be responding more to your post, right now I'm late for work. Later.


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Uncle Sam:
Welcome to BiafraNigeriaWorld. Surely you get the gist. You are a Nigerian and you feel welcome here. I am a Biafran, and so do I.

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SON OF SAM/UNCLE SAM

I was gonna wait and respond to your silly remarks in detail, compliment of your goddamed freedom to express yourself but I thought I paste a comment or two from repellent skunk, General Gowon and perhaps your sense and sensibility refresh your memory as why Nigeria for 40 years is a retard and has no sense of direction.

Here is a statement from an X head of states, Gowon with sessesionist view about one Nigeria. After reading this you may want to revisit your illusionary view of One Nigeria and their politics of inclusion then have an understanding why Biafra, OPC and Arewa are waypoint1 for each community.

I don't have to beg you to read this I am rather ordering you stupid.

From General GOWON: Present are IBB, Shagari, Buhari holding talks of Arewa Unity.

"General Gowon, on the occasion enjoined Northerners to uphold the value of unity with a view to keeping Nigeria one" he urged them to "endeavour and uphold the legacy bequeathed to "OUR PEOPLE" by OUR PAST LEADERS like Sir Ahmadu Bello, Sir Abubakar Tafawa bellowa, Alhajis, Ribadu and Amino Kano. Note there is no mention of Nnamdi Azikiwe, the distinctive loud mouth of the Yoruba Express, [Awolowo himself] and other prominent Igbos and former Eastern region who fought for their goddamned independence from the Beast of England. Tell me what you think stupid?

Now you know, why Nigeria is such a stooge and Biafra our waypoint 1.

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They said it and they did. Be it known that here, you are uncensored and has every right
to express your views.-- Paul Ibekwe.

Uncle sam should be happy he is welcomed to a board where his views will not be censored no matter how contrary to majority opinion---Biafra

Thanks Biafra and Paul Ibekwe, That I was able to voice my opinion against majority opinion shows one thing---- I no be follow follow. Infact, that was a compliment- thanks.


Sam, you have dabbled into the wrong site.---
Your anti Igbo pose on your favorite board is noted.---Amanda Wekson

Amanda,why did you classify this site as a wrong site?

Apart from a few welcome mixed with blows, most of the questions posed on this thread are yet to be answered.

I do not get into the exchange of pedestrian discuss. Those who do are like cripples who need the aid of a walking stick. Its synonymous with Nigerians to resort to unwarranted tantrums for lack of sound reasoning in a discuss.

As some of you had said, this site(thanks to the owners) has its slogan as uncensored and uncut, I would wish that some would also add decorum to their writings. Let them deal with my opinions as against personal attacks like the advise given by Ifeanyi chukwukere Obigbo.

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At least the frustrated Biafrans have a forum to talk about their deeply held beliefs and I must commend the person who created this as a true soldier in the war of propoganda against the oppressors.This steve make him go rest or we go send am to sharia court
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That's better than the content Nigerians can say for themselves.Don't you feel silly writting on a frustrated Biafran board with all the good stuff happening in Nigeria?

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Uncle Sam,
You still don't make sense.

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it is idiots like you that keep the true Biafrans down what good stuff is happening in nigeria inflation, corruption,419,ehtnic striff the killing of people in kaduna and odi the lack of water light petrol health care why dont you move back to nigeria you are just another sabo
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"I do not get into the exchange of pedestrian discuss." --- Uncle Sam.

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The author of that line clearly needs remedial English Language lessons. Pretty pedestrian, if you ask me. If he hangs around, he will get that lesson.

The next time some poorly educated slime from nigeriaworld comes here to talk about how intelligent he or she is, we shall pull no punches.


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Sam, you said that you do not get into the pedestrian discuss.
Why are you whining about your questions not being answered?
Let me give you a free advice....your questions are pedestrian and do not merit any answers from us. Any time you spew pedestrian outbursts, rest assured that you'll be ignored. Find another way to seek our attention.

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What is Uncle sam's question anyways, pedetrian issue. Uncle sam you may be new to BiafraNigeria world but our history go way back to Nigeriaworld. yes Uncle sam this is an all Inclusive message board. well about the name The creator could have done without including that God for saken country Nigeria on this Board. However as a liberal minded person as the Board master is he know that some of you pro one Nigerians would like to voice your opinion. That is the difference between this talented genius with a foresight who created this board.

Unlike Nigerians who are always shivering and weting their pants whenever they hear that six letter word B-I-A-F-R-A. What Biafra is all about is self determinations. The Ability for people to control their own destiney that is what Biafra is fighting for. Biafra will continue to fight for that self determination until your Country Nigeria realize that this Marriage forced on us since 1914 have never worked not even for a day. We have been asking for divorce for 40 years, But Nigeria doesn't want to get off her fat lazy ass and get a job to take care of herself. your one Nigeria continue to loaf off of Niger Deltans. Now Niger Deltans have said they don't want to feed your fat a.. any more, what did you do? you ran to court like the coward you are.

The difference this time is that Niger deltans may be serious about not feeding your fat as-- anymore. Now your one Nigeria is scared to death that for once she may have to work for a living. You are resorting to scare mongering telling the Bayelsa people that Biafra will dominate them. Because Bayelsa people have waked up from their 30 years sleep and realized that you have been sucking them dry for 30 years pretending to be protecting them. You are scared now because Bayelsa and Other Eastern minorities are realizing that you have been lieing to them for 30 years. Now you are scared of dieing of hungry.

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I guess I miss understood you to be one of those who strole in here to pontificate. Welcome to the board my fellow Biafran.


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SAM and Pedestrian discuss?

Close but no cigar.You would have been clearly more insulting than indulge in statement that does not reflect your conviction.

If I were you I would have not come back for another engagement and that my friend makes you not only a reflection of that term but an engagement in Pedestrian discuss. It is rather troubling why you can't read in between lines to affactuate the meaning of your thinking. You will probably make a page in my Doctorate thesis with my screw loose faculty.

ADVISE: Try the reversed standard of Micheal West, Webster or Oxford dictionary for a better choice of phrase to reflect your meaning of words and the usage today. This is the 21st Century stupid.

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Guys,
Are we cursed?. The Yorubas , the Hausas,even the Minorities can discuss their problems within the Nigerian entity, but whenever Ndigbos attempt to do the same thing, people crawl out of the woodworks crying ,Lets move on!, You pace is too Pedestrian! Get above Ethnicity!.
People are attempting to deny our rights of Self determination/Governance, yet they persist in treating us as second class citizens. I have to conclude that some people will only be happy is we are reduced to the level to perpertual slavery.(Come to think of it , Is that not our situation now?.) Have we not behaved like cowards long enough?, we should Ignore these comments. Why can our leaders not speak like the Afinifere and Arewa?.
Finally, can one explain to me what a moderate Igbo means?, Are there mild and severe Igbos?, Which category do I fall under?. I was brought up believing that fundamental to being an Igboman, is to always speak the truth, Fight against injustice,mutual respect and free speech etc.
Could it be that the mild, moderate , and severe Igbos have fallen short of these tasks,and have come up with these terms to justify thier failures?. Please, could someone enlighten me.

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Comrade Wacko

You could be right but what makes the Igbos special from other ethnic group in Nigeia is that we can disagree on issues but we will not resort to homocidal tendencies, to kill simply because we do not agree. It is rather healthy to disagree than agree, if you know what I mean? We are democratic in our way of life.You may make reference to the way the Igbo villages are designed and that ought to tell you we are well organized as a community.

Every village has a head and reports to a traditional chief who in turn is subjected to the direction of the Eze. In this system your given the right to take turns and express yourself. You must recite Ndi Igbo kwenu before your acknowledged. Why do you think other ethnic groups envy you for being Ndi Igbo?

We will disagree on issues so long as we do not mayhem or recommend one's life for not agreeing with us. That is Biafra and her neighbors. And that my friend is a fact.

By the way the Issue here is "What a Name"? with ref: Biafranigeria. Lets respond to uncle Sam who failed to recite Ndi Igbo kwenu before talking.

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Wacko:
Nigerians know that the term “moderate Igbo” is a euphemism for Igbo Saboteur. That is why when Igbo haters like Obasanjo need an Igbo to work with, they look for an “Igbo moderate,” e.g. Ojo Maduekwe. These “Igbo moderates” are both in Igboland and here in Diaspora. They spend all their time behaving in a manner that tells Nigerians that it is ok to kill Igbos. But, when the murderers take their cue and when Igbos are killed in Kaduna or Okigwe, they come out pretending to be hawks. They write until they are blue in the face. But, when you ask them to do anything to prevent further murder of Igbos, they take cover and they are worried about how they are perceived by Nigerians. Suddenly, no one wants to be viewed as a radical or extremist.

My view is that anyone who accepts the tag of a “moderate Igbo” while Igbos are still easy prey for mass murder in Nigeria is more dangerous than the people who slaughter Igbos. An "Igbo moderate" is a facilitator in the murder of Igbos throughout BiafraNigeria. If there is any Igbo who is neither radical nor extremist in the face of a prey-predator relationship between Biafrans and Nigerians, that Igbo is a coward. Anyone who is using his educational or professional accomplishment as an excuse for failing to aggressively fight the murderers of Ndi Igbo should know that those accomplishments were never intended to be a passageway to cowardice. Many of the great generals of our time were also academics. Professors, lawyers, Ph.D’s and other academics have led armies to prevent genocide.

But, Igbo academics are buying into a theory of imbeciles, which says that you can become too educated to fight for your people. Thank God that even with his Oxford education, General Emeka Ojukwu did not deem himself too educated to fight to stop the extermination of Biafrans. Thank God!! For we would all have perished by now.

This is the time to do the work that will stop further spilling of Igbo blood. It is time to decide. You can be a radical or an extremist, or you can be a “moderate.” If you choose to be a “moderate,” be sure and remember to scream “I AM A MODERATE” just before they behead you and your entire family in Kano, or just before they rape your wife and your mother as you unsuccessfully seek the protection of the radicals and extremists who are now trying to save you. Remember to scream “I AM A MODERATE” just before they slash your pregnant wife’s womb open to murder your unborn child. If you think you are in Diaspora and those scenarios do not apply to you, be sure to tell your moderate sister and her family, as well the rest of your family members who may still live in non Biafran parts of BiafraNigeria to scream “WE ARE MODERATES” when the genocide resumes.

Upkala nwa okpoko gburu, nti chiri ya.

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MASSOB, thanks for your explanation.
I must confess that I had to bring that issue up as each time I see a so called Moderate speaking, I cannot help but observe that Igbos,do not share his or her views.
I often wondered whether that was not a Politically correct term for Sabo.I am glad that I am not alone in having that view.

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BTW ,Waypoint1Biafra, the tone of debate on this board including the insults is exactly the tone of the debates in my Village meetings. Yet,we have been able to provide our selves with Electricity, Pipe borne water, Tarred roads, built a secondary school, a hospital and have provided University scholarships to our brothers.
Could it be that the Igbos who complain about the tone of this board have lost touch with home?

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Wacko Brother

You just answered the question, you need to come to my vilage meeting brother, you will think that we are at war,. However when you take into account what we have accomplished through community effort you will also marvel. Numbers one to ten college graduates from my village was trained through community efforts through ikuchi nkwu, yet when one of those brother came back from oversea and tried to missbehave the villagers told him off by telling him that they were here when he left for Obodo oyibo.

Now we may disagree and fight let nobody mistake that from Igbo resolve. although like you said some Igbo judas like Ojo maduekwe will always sale their soul for a port of porage that not withstanding. Igbos will always get down to business when push comes to sholve. One thing with Igbos is that we respect our leaders but we don't shipped them. So that when they mess up we tell them off by saying "Efere ha eji siri anyi nri ha kuwa ya. because we rather go hungry than hide the truth.

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Wacko my brother

I will assume not. Uncle sam came here angry and in defense of Nigeriaworld not entirely an Igbo thing. There is no dobout in my mind that uncle Sam is very friendly with the oweners or owner of Nigeria World. His is not an "Angry Igboman but himself.

As a matter of fact, I do not expect all Igbos to think alike. We should be diverse in our thinking, moderate, extremist, libral or hardcore. I am pretty extreme to certain issues and will work with a damn Hausa or a yellow belly if it is for the best interest of my people but that does not diminish my capacity to hold my extremist views against anybody that reduces my people to nothing.
Every Nigerian should defend and marry within their race and Ndi Igbo would like to keep it pure. All this mixed race children are causing us pain...Uncle Sam could be a product of Hausa/Igbo. No apologies if I offended anyone just facts.

hail Biafra