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ALL, I am not disappointed in the token amount of money asked in this pending case. For all I care, the irreplaceble losses (and many years of agony) can NEVER be substituted for, by ANY amount of financial settlement, this lawsuit could ever bring, if any. What bothers me, however, is the remarkable (and, hopefully, accidental) omission(s) therein.
Can someone explain to me, why "Biafra War" is now ONLY "Ndigbo's" war? What happens to those who fought, suffered, and died because of their belief(s) in the war, who were (and are) not Igbo siblings? Does this lawsuit remind ANYONE of the persistent "double-talk" accusations, often labelled against most of the Igbos, by their Minority (and other) brothers and sisters? Who authored this lawsuit? Were the other compatriots compatriots notified and/or included? I do not know these answers. Maybe, some of us do. I would be ALL eyes! Thank you for your answers. http://sg.news.yahoo.com/010416/1/mz1y.html
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Brother COLO: If the Minorities are as proud of Biafra as the Igbos are, why don't the minorities make their own demands for compensation? The problem is that most minorities want to have their cake and eat it too. Most Minorities dissociate themselves from Biafra and most want to be seen as the good saboteurs who helped the vandals to defeat Biafra. At the same time they want to share in anything recovered for those who were tortured for believing in and fighting for Biafra, and who still remain proud of Biafra. Can you imagine a person like C. Ikpatt accepting any compensation that results from these campaigns, considering his bile for everything Biafran? Do you think the spirits of those who died for Biafra would spare him?
Who are the leaders of the minorities that fought in that war? Why can't they speak up now? What are they waiting for? For that matter, your family members were good Biafrans. Why don't you contact those compensation campaigners and join them or start your own campaign. I will support you. Those Nigerian bastards should be made to disgorge their loot. Compensation should only be the beginning. After that, should come punishment for the horrendous crimes committed against Easterners, Minorities and Ndi-Igbo.
Biafra was not an Igbo war. But, Ohanaeze and the Igbo cultural associations that are clamoring for compensation DO NOT represent the minorities. Has that changed? Those associations do not even speak for Biafra or Biafrans. They only purport to represent Ndi-Igbo. If General Ojukwu were leading the compensation demand, I could understand your point, since as leader of Biafra, Ojukwu was Head of State to the Minorities too. These Igbo cultural associations are not the mouthpiece of Biafra or Biafrans or the minorities. I don't even believe that they represent Ndi-Igbo. What does MASSOB have to say about this? That's what matters to me. Some of those leading this campaign for compensation may even have been saboteurs themselves.
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As much as I agree with you that this lwasuit should be very inclusive of all victims of that war. But I would like aslo to remind you that only the Igbos have spearheaded the efforts to highlight the attrocities committed by Nigeria during that war, while our minority sibbling have gone on with there business pretending that Nigeria is their best friend.
Now one thing I would like to add is that when a lawsuit like this is initiated even here in US when a class action lawsuit is initiated. Only couple people will get the actions rolling then after that the lawyers involve will advertize that anybody who is affected by such action should contact them. That in itself is a smart Lawyering, So I would imagine that as the lawsuit progress the lawyers involved would like to bring our minority brothers and sisters on board. That will lend more weight to the lawsuit even if the lawsuit will reach world court in Hague.
Having said that it will be up to our minority sibblings to decide whether to be part of it or not. Considering how our minority sibblings have been on the sideline and collaborating with the Federal Government I doubt seriously if they would want to be a part of it at this early stage. But I will bet you that once the lawsuit start to show some positive sign you will see people coming out of the wood work to grab a piece of the action. In any case I would think if this lawsuit is successfully and $63 billion will go a long way to complete the three R. If that happens I don't think that the development will only go to southeast alone. It will probably benefit the whole old eastern Region.
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Sister Adaeze, My posting was to find out facts. It appears neither you nor I know them, completely, yet. For now, I'd like to believe that brother "Biafra" could be correct, when he wrote, in part:
quote: Now one thing I would like to add is that when a lawsuit like this is initiated even here in US when a class action lawsuit is initiated. Only couple people will get the actions rolling then after that the lawyers involve will advertize that anybody who is affected by such action should contact them. That in itself is a smart Lawyering, So I would imagine that as the lawsuit progress the lawyers involved would like to bring our minority brothers and sisters on board. That will lend more weight to the lawsuit even if the lawsuit will reach world court in Hague.
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Colo, Sister Adaeze and brother Biafra have beautifully answered your questions. Like they rightly pointed out, most of our Eastern Siblings shy away from the name "BIAFRA". If Ohaneze group has included them in the lawsuit, they would have likely put a monkey-wrench on it due to their PRO-Nigeria, ANTI-Ndigbo stance.
On the other hand, Ohaneze is seeking relevance among Ndigbo since it has realized Ndigbo's awareness and support of MASSOB. Know that Ndigbo and MASSOB will relentlessly and vigorously pursue the war crimes against Biafra, and just compensation for Biafra once we Actualize her. That's a sure promise. So I wouldn't lose sleep on this eleventh hour exercise by Ohaneze group.
Those Siblings who want to be counted with Biafra should STAND UP TALL with MASSOB... now that there's still time.
I agree with you on the issue of Ohanaeze seeking relevance, This lawsuit I think is another way of Ohanaeze trying to keep us in Nigeria. I for one would love to forgo the $63 billion if Nigeria will leave us alone to go our seperate way as Biafrans. Because with this lawsuit buffons like Ojo Maduekwe and the Jim Nwobodos of the world will come out to bask in the glory.
Nice to see you at BiafraNigeria message board, Brother you have always been a good brother from our days at Nigeriaworld.
Now about the lawsuit you are right brother Colo the Igbos were not the only ones who suffer the attrocity committed by Nigeria Government and their soldiers. However I would like to say that we should be patient and let this lawsuit makes its way through the courts. I hope the people in charge brings every victim of that attrocity on board and take this case all the way to world court. I think world court will be the appropriate please to decide such case, because Nigeria kangroo court will not be able to adjudicate this case as an unbiased referree. I also think that some people like Obasanjo should be charged for war crime even some of the dead actors of that war on Nigeria side like Murtala and living ones like Danjuma.
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Read for yourself and make your own conclusion. The truth shall set us free. Britain help to slaughter Our children because of oil.
Secret papers reveal Biafra intrigue
New revelations about how the war was funded
By Rick Fountain in London
Newly-released secret British papers show how the Biafran civil war which nearly destroyed the Nigerian federal state 30 years ago, turned into a triangular big-power contest between the United Kingdom, France and the Soviet Union.
About a million Biafrans starved to death because of the blockade applied by the Nigerian federal military government.
The breakaway state of Biafra was declared in May 1967, by the Ibo people of eastern Nigeria.
They were at odds with the rest of the federation and their military governor, Colonel Ojukwu, thought they could survive with revenues from the oilfields in their territory.
But the move was opposed by the federal military government and fighting broke out.
At first Biafra was successful and this alarmed Britain, the former colonial power, anxious for its big oil holdings.
It also interested the Soviet Union which saw a chance to increase its influence in West Africa.
Both sent arms to boost the federal military government, under General Yakubu Gowon.
But France, the other big former colonial power in the region, also took a hand.
Arms from Francophone neighbours
Although Paris repeatedly denied arming the Biafrans, the newly-released papers reveal intelligence reports showing that very large weapon shipments were reaching Biafra via two neighbouring Francophone states, Ivory Coast and Gabon.
The UK intelligence services warned that Soviet penetration was growing but that this did not much trouble Paris.
The British reports says the French objective "appears to be the break-up of Nigeria, which threatens, by its size and potential, to overshadow France's client Francophone states in west Africa".
But the flow of French arms diminished as the Biafrans wilted under relentless attacks and a food blockade.
In January 1970 the secession collapsed, and Colonel Ojukwu fled to Ivory Coast.
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This evil imperialist dying-old dog Britain, has not "revealed" anything we don't already know. Its just an empty write-up withou substance. They distractedly put Sovit Union (communists) and France (Francophone territorial guardian) to the fore to overshadow her own atrocities for the illegal/immoral monopoly and extraction of Biafran oil wealth. Their day of reckoning is fast approaching. They will also be made to pay for their war crimes against Biafra.
I said it before, tiny Biafra was fought by Britain, USA, USSR, plus foreign mercenaries. It was for the maintenance of imperialistic control/enslavement of our people, the Biafrans, and the rest of the black race that they waged that genocidal war. Obasanjo, Gowon, et al, were and still are merry stooges who are being rewarded for their errands.
QOUTE.. ------------------------------------------------------------------- For many years after the civil war, the defeated former Biafrans nursed their grievances in silence but now there is a new assertiveness in south-eastern Nigerian, a new willingness to talk about the war and even to justify the Biafran cause.
This "new assertiveness in south Eastern Nigeria" is the result of MASSOB Mobilization, not Ohaneze's. Irrelevant Ohaneze is sponging off on MASSOB's hard earned and history-making work. These moneybags who are trying to hijack the Ndigbo agenda of Biafra Actualization have once again shown where their own concerns are placed. They've realized that Ndigbo is waking up to the real saboterus of Ndigbo progress. Ohaneze want the Hague to make Obasanjo hand over to them $60billion in guise of war crime reparation and restitution. The greed and insatiable appetite for selfish money does not allow them to think coherently. They like to chase the rat while the entire house is engulfed in flames, and take delight in putting the cart before the horse. During the recent Kaduna sharia (Ndigbo) massacre, this Ohaneze group was absent and un-forthcoming in philantropic largesse in seeing to the safe and affordable return and resettlement of Ndigbo in their various home states. Yet they "feel" for Ndigbo so bad that they're now going after money that is due Ndigbo. Helloooo! The war ended thrity one years ago. Was Ohaneze group formed this year? Tufiakwa! Here's a paragraph on their hideous selfish greed. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from BBC...
The Igbo association presenting the petition are claiming damages of more than $60bn, saying that reparations and appropriate restitution would be a healing balm not just to Igbos but to the whole Nigerian nation. -------------------------------------------------------------------
Ha! Healing balm, my foot! Assuming they get that money, they believe that Ndigbo will carry on within Nigerian nation uperturbed and assuaged. What a fallacy! This sabre-rattling empty suit should be seen for what it is...an ineffectual/feeble attempt to forestall Biafra Actualization and attempted use of Ndigbo to quest for selfish chunky sum.
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Sister Amanda, Thanks for your response. I am a Nigerian. I share the attitude of Mrs. Awunamadu (sic), a former Pro-Biafran Lady, when she said:
quote: "And if the easterners are treated fairly, and other parts of Nigeria too, and you see an equitable handling or distribution of what is available, and then of course working to develop and to progress - I think easterners would like to stay in Nigeria."
I respect the positions of my siblings, like brothers Biafra, I.G.Nwafor, Nwa Oro, Damian, Egwuatu, et al., as well as intelligent and articulate sisters like you and Adaeze, et al., advocating for Biafra Nation. But, I respectfully, disagree. We should be one - a loving, equitable, patriotic, sincere, caring and united ONE NIGERIA.
On the compensation issue, I would hope that those who fought the war would be fairly compensated, if any; and not be compelled to accept MASSOB or related Organisations to be paid their earned compensation. Or, should they? Human minds change daily, I can profess. I still believe, brother Biafra's argument, which I previously quoted, seems very persuasive.
Brother I.G. Nwafor, Those were some kind words. I miss your contributions in Nigeriaworld too. It's great to be here with you again. How's life, brother? I pray, daily, that you and my other siblings, change your mind about Biafra. Nigeria is like a VILLAGE GIRL. If wel-raised, educated, brought to the City and groomed, most become super-stars. We can make our Country, Nigeria, like that, again. If all attempts fail, then we could contemplate many other alternatives. Once again, it's a pleasure to read from you. Have a pleasant day, my brother.
Sister Adaeze, I wouldn't be that quick in writing off the Oputa Panel. Patience can be a wonderful virtue. One of the deserving complaints of my Igbo siblings, had been, lack of inclusion. Justice Oputa is 100% Igbo, although I pray that others see him as I do, first, as 100% fair-minded and patriotic Nigerian, doing his best for our Nation, and, who happens to be my Igbo brother. If we could see ourselves, first as Nigerians, we'd be surprised as to how much we could change that rotten nation of ours. It is my belief, we can. Don't you wish to live with me, your brother? Have a Good Evening, Sister!
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COLO, Since others have partially answered your question, I will add that in any collective law suit, an individual or any other group can still press charges. So what you and other Minorities who identified with the Biafran cause should do at the end if you think that Ohaneze's sum is less or does not include the Minorities' interests is to file more charges against the Federal Government. By the way, have you COLO tried to get from your Minority Leaders whether they are interested in what Ohaneze is doing or not? And besides Ohaneze and the Igbos, what efforts, individually and collectively have the Minorities made since the war ended to bring those who committed what is infact a genocide against the Easterners to book? Since we have all agreed that not only Igbos were affected by the Biafran lose, it will then be fair and proper that both the Igbos (through Ohaneze or any Igbo pressure group) and the Minorities (through whatever group) also work together to bring monetary and criminal charges against the perpetrators of these war atrocities -- Ohaneze or Igbos should not be blamed if the other party, the Minorities and their Leaders, fails to make their voice be heard this time.
All: Without seen to be distracting your attention from the topic of this thread, I wish to inform those directly involved in the Big Steve affair that Big Steve wrote me a private tell-all mail inwhich he narated from his percpective what happened on the Nigeriaworld message board and why it happenend. I took the pains to write Big Steve because like I said in my first letter when this issue was debated on the "Should Yorubas..." thread that I would like Big Steve to tell his side of events. This is what Big Steve said in part:
A) He categorically denied revealing any information given to him to anybody.
B) That at the time the incident (signing of Okigwe petition) that the only member of the Nigeriaworld message board he (Big Steve) had his telephone number was one Emeka Amanze and the reason he had his number was because the said Amanze is a lawyer and he needed his assistance "to proof read the Okigwe letter from a legal standpoint".
C) Any information given, i.e the names given by the petitioners in the Okigwe letter were "real names only". So how could he ( Big Steve) have known the pen names of the signatories, since in the petition letter only real names were forwarded?
D) That he (Big Steve) had a "heated debate" with one Damian Njoku on the Nigeriaworld board. That during the course of the debate, that he (Big Steve) stated that he thought that Mr. Njoku went to University of Ilorin, that before this, there was no member of that board (Nigeriaworld) that revealed in private the College they attended to him (Big Steve).That in an earlier thread, a member of the borad by the username Wind had revealed that he (Wind) went to University of Illorin; That "both Damian and Wind write alike" and in the course of the debates, that he (Big Steve) write "extemporaneously" and "assumed" that it was Damian that went to Illorin University. But when the error was ponted out, that he (Big Steve) "willing apologized". That some members of the BiafraNigeriaworld have "consistently latched unto this error", and went ahead to accuse him (Big Steve) of divulging private information --- That this allegation is a "BIG LIE"
E) That when Damian Njoku and Egwuato Ozoemena were banned from the Nigeriaworld board, that he (Big Steve) wrote a letter to the Boardmaster of the Nigeriaworld message board "to consider reinstating them", so, this should dispel the rumour that he had a hand in their banning. That Emeka Amanze and COLO are aware of his (Big Steve's) letter to the Boardmaster of the Nigeriaworld board. That COLO also pleaded on behalf of the banned fellows. However, that the Boardmaster replied back that they (the banned members) can come back but according to the Boardmaster, they (Njoku & Co) must as a condition promise to use 'good language'. And that the banned members could have contacted the Boardmaster. if they wanted. That Big Steve knows the Boardmaster like any other member of the Nigeriaworld board, hence, the "BIG LIE going around that I (Big Steve) have the Nigeriaworld Boardmaster in my pocket, what a HOGWASH"... unquote.
Let me state that the defence made here is what Big Steve wrote in his private letter to me after I received Big Steve's private letter through the Boardmaster of the Nigeriaworld message board. I have taken this role of a broker because Big Steve asked for an "apology" from his accusers, and I in reply to his first letter inwhich he demanded for an apology, I demanded to know from Big Steve why his accusers should apologize to him. He then sent the above mail, which for reasons of privacy and at the request of Big Steve, I paraphrased above.
If those on this board directly involved have anything to say to Big Steve's letter, they can do so by e-mailing me at: nwaaro@yahoo.com or to Big Steve at: ukanwabuz@naijanet.com
I plead on all to please refrain from responding publicly to Big Steve's mail on this board. Lets use dialogue to settle this brotherly quarrel. Thanks.
Steve Nwabuzor is a REGISTERED MEMBER of this board. That he chose the backdoor (private e-mails)and continually solicite the help of other board members, including a phantom lawyer as a front to his stories is beyond contempt.
What is he afraid of? Can't he be man enough to come forth with his "side of the stories", himself? He should shade that fake pompous air and come out like the regular person that he is. He's becoming exceedingly annoying with his attention-seeking antiques!
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Nwa Aro, You spoke well but you must realize that, Big Steve, all along, has used all kinds of tactics to destroy the progress so far made here in Biafranigeriaworld Message Board. Whom do you call your friend or brother? The one who would suddenly make a 180-degrees turn and snitch behind your back? I had expected Big Steve tcome upfront like a man and sincerely apologize on this board for his recklessness.
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Thanks for posting that paraphrased private e-mail from Big Steve. I think that it is wise that those that feel aggrieved by Big Steve to do as you suggested. It takes a man to understand why Steve wrote you and you have to be a man to get it.
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"And if the easterners are treated fairly, and other parts of Nigeria too, and you see an equitable handling or distribution of what is available, and then of course working to develop and to progress - I think easterners would like to stay in Nigeria."
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Well, Nigeria is an atrocious oppressive/repressive, and amoral 90 yrs old and the anti-Biafra Easterners are still having wishful thinking about romantic embrace from Nigeria. Think you can teach this old dog a new trick? Fact is, Nigeria has never ever treated Easterners fairly in equitable handling and distribution of what is available nor worked/working for development or progress. Because Nigeria is a deliberatly fraudulent union, no equity and justice will ever materialize from her.
There's nothing like a former pro Biafran. Those saboteurs camouflaging as pro Biafrans only does so, when they don't get their promised crumbs from their masters. Once they get it, they revert back to pro nigeria. Soon Ojo Maduekwe, Jim Nwobodo, Ukpabi Asika, Kema Chikwe, will all become former pro Biafrans. We can't all bury our heads in the sand while Ndigbo is being destroyed to extinction. We know that ONE NIGERIA is the surest way to actualize that extinction.
This VILLAGE GIRL (Nigeria) is 90 yrs old, yet she is still an illiterate, ill-raised, and an old prostitute who has out-lived her usefulness and youth. All the players have taken their selfish pleasures on her and dumped their garbage in her. She's used up, rotten and stinking. So she has no salvage value and never been a super star. Biafra had always had the glory and stardom, only surpressed.
My take is that those no Igbos from the Eastern block who are anti-Biafra/pro-Nigeria should ask the Nigerian govt for reparation. Perhaps, Nigeria could pay them the reparation...for their support for One Nigeria.
On the Oputa panel, 100% Igbo doesn't mean pro-Ndigbo panel. You're right, those panel members are PATRIOTIC Nigerians and as such have no Biafran interests at heart. We write off non patriotic Biafrans. On Identity, we identify, first, with our family, village, tribe (Igbo nation), state, etc. It gives a sense of collective belonging and well being. We say that goodness begins from home, not from the public arena.
Finally, we can't all take the ostrich way. When one's survival is on the line, one has to pull the bull by the horn. Such is the case with the Biafrans. Those who consciously decide against joining Biafra Actualization movement have no moral or legal ground to complain when Biafra's ship comes in and they continue to be exploited in Nigeria. The Chechnyans are a living example of recent memory.
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This Steve Nwabuzor must be an attention seeking retard. I thought we already moved away from this Steve Nwabuzor issue. Why is he using Nwa Aro for his childish games?
Besides, the boardmaster moved the "Idiotic/Religious" thread to the less prominent "Say it Anyway" section of the board.
Nwa Aro: Why did you think it appropriate to introduce Steve Nwabuzor in this thread? I don't get it.
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Nwa Aro: Steve Nwabuzor is using you to do his dirty job. He is a member of this forum. Since he obviously has no lawyer, or he has a moron as a lawyer, let Steve Nwabuzor come here and speak for himself and I am sure that Damian will respond to him. Don’t let that wily old coop drag you into his criminal web. Steve Nwabuzor knows what he has done. He knows, for example, that he revealed a lot of confidential information that “wind” and some Igbo members of Nigeriaworld gave him, either in connection with the Okigwe petition, or in connection with the planning of the Atlanta conference. The information in question was NEVER posted by wind or any of the other members anywhere on Nigeriaworld message board. I know this because I know many of those members, and I am thoroughly familiar with Nigeriaworld message board. I also know other members of Nigeriaworld who have confirmed that Steve Nwabuzor is the source of the malicious information. Notice that Steve Nwabuzor does not deny that wind sent him personal e-mail during the Okigwe matter. Both Steve Nwabuzor and wind are members of this forum, and either or both are welcome to dispute these facts.
Nwa Aro, moreover, you were present at Nigeriaworld message board very recently when Seun took on Steve Nwabuzor over Steve Nwabuzor’s dishonesty. Have you ever wondered what Seun was talking about in that short exchange? Seun left the discussion with a comment that he does not take “baits.”
Nwa Aro, by the way, even the way you state the events shows that you may not have read the exchange between Steve Nwabuzor and Damian before Damian was banned. You owe it to yourself to go through those debates before making posts on behalf of that unreliable fellow, Steve Nwabuzor. If you read those debates, you will see that Steve Nwabuzor has hidden the truth from you. Not only did Steve accuse Damian of attending the University of Illorin, (which Damian did not attend) Steve Nwabuzor accused Damian of gaining admission into the University of Illorin on a “quota system” program. That was what Steve Nwabuzor apologized for. Either Steve is just a mean-spirited fellow, or he was criminally revealing or projecting someone else’s information to Damian, in that instance? Either scenario makes for a wretched man.
Like I said. Don’t sully your good reputation defending that coward. Let him speak for himself. Or let his non-existent/ moron lawyer speak for him. Steve Nwabuzor should stop being a sissy. He should be a man and speak for himself.
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Sister Amanda You said it all there is nothing like former pro Biafra, Former is like Obasanjo claiming to be born again. Been born again without attonement for ones sin is a mockery of christianity. Those calling themselves former pro Biafra are all job seeking errand boys of Obasanjo who are looking for hand out and crumbs from their master Obasanjo's table. Those are not true red blood igbos, they are this new invented word moderate Igbos.
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Ednut: Mr. Steve Nwabuzor should have taken his own advice and contacted me by e-mail. He or his accomplice at Nigeriaworld have my e-mail address. Why did he fail to send me e-mail? He chose to hide behind a more respectable fellow, Nwa Aro. That is Mr. nwabuzor's modus operandi. When he got in trouble with IG Nwafor at Nigeriaworld, he hid behind another respectable fellow who came forward to bail him out. Anyway, for his information, Steve Nwabuzor is no longer welcome to contact me privately, except through his lawyers, if he has any.
All: Earlier, brother COLO gave the excuse that Mr. Steve Nwabuzor was not a member of this forum to explain why he (COLO) was making posts on behalf of Steve Nwabuzor. Now, Steve Nwabuzor is a member of this forum. People, let him make his own posts.
Besides, each time Steve Nwabuzor asks one of you to make these posts for him, he is making you agents in his on-going campaign of filth. You will notice that Steve Nwabuzor's mass e-mail campaign, in which he is freely bandying all sorts falsehood have not been cleared by any of those whose reputations he is forlonly attempting to damage. Do you not wonder what Steve Nwabuzor's motives are in mentioning the names that he is mentioning in his e-mail? Are those names really relevant to the story that Steve Nwabuzor is telling? We are looking at a man with a criminal heart. He fools no one but himself.
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Folks, Can we all get along? We MUST learn the art of forgiveness, and soon, if we believe in God and Eternity. None of us knows the day nor the hour. What happens, if yours is now? What would you say to your Creator?With that said, for the last time, let us forgive our sibling, brother Big Steve, and move along. Thank you.
Now back to the debate!
Brother NWA ORO, Thank you for both your plea for brother "Big Steve" and your questions. I cannot tell you, honestly, what is going on in my neck of the woods, with regards to this issue. As I told sister Amanda, the thread was for more questions and suggestions. 'Will get you, fine people, posted, if I know of anything.
Sister Amanda, Your analogy of Nigeria with my "Village Girl" was so profound and hilarious. Unfortunately, I choked on my dinner, as I was reading it. You're funny! I am sure, all would agree with my inference, if they read this:
quote: This VILLAGE GIRL (Nigeria) is 90 yrs old, yet she is still an illiterate, ill-raised, and an old prostitute who has out-lived her usefulness and youth. All the players have taken their selfish pleasures on her and dumped their garbage in her. She's used up, rotten and stinking. So she has no salvage value and never been a super star. Biafra had always had the glory and stardom, only surpressed
That used-up village girl still has her dignity and life. The same blood running in her veins (and more) have the exact composition of her abusers. Her bones shall rise, again, if there is a God. Believe me!
We cannot run away, when things are tough. We must become tenacious, and invinsible, to make it right, even if it takes eternity. That is how the "Moon" was conguered, the "West" navigated, "Christianity" spread, et al.
I am not a poet, but I thought you may find William Henly's "INVICTUS", very appropriate. Here are my BEST recollection of its verses:
INVICTUS by William Henley
Out of the night that covers me Black as a pit from pole to pole I thank whatever gods may be For my inconguerable Soul
In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud Under the bludgeonings of circumstance My head is blo
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