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People, In order to deter further distractions on other threads about Steve Nwabuzor, and to provide an avenue for forumites to properly address their opinions, I've started this thread with Colo's latest rejoinder on Steve Nwabuzor.
Brother Big Steve's errors including the public scolding of his younger but erudite sibling(s), the likes of brothers Damian, Egwuatu, IG Nwafor, et al., attempt to resolve a "Family Feud" in Court, et al., may not have been unconnected with his 60's and 70's (as well as Nigerian Professorial) up-bringing, characteristics of most of our elders at home, including the reveered Ojukwu or the late Zik. He was wrong, in all. This should not be allowed, however, to drag on forever, with some precipitations from the "inside" by those siblings, who may not like this gentleman at all, but have chosen to remain silent on the Board.
There was a time, not long ago, in our Communities, where children (like most of us, in our 20s and 30s) were seen and never heard. All we did, was to listen, attentively, to the words of our Elders, however erroneous they may have been. But, how times have changed! Our "Pound Sterlings," "Dollars," and "Doctors of Nothing," have made us so different, controlling and, obviously, impermeable now! My Siblings, let us be careful. We're NOT the first to have some enlightening education and wealth. Neither would we be the last. None of us is getting younger any time soon. The judgement we deem suitable today, may be our "Cross," as our kids continue this endless tasks of atomistic renewal. Only time will vindicate us all from this path we have chosen to pursue. In your prayers, remember the young and well-educated Okadigbo and Zik. Ours may never be to such great a comparison, but it suffices for us to remember a little history.
Like brother "NwA ARO", I do not regret being dubbed an "errand boy", by some of my beloved siblings, because I posted "Big Steve's" letter for him. I am, actually, flattered by it. I do NOT care, if he is registered here or not; he is my senior and a sibling. My successes, though very humbling and flattering, should not make me too arrogant to help ANY of you, when such situations arise. After all, brother "Big Steve" (though I have never had the opportunity to meet him, yet), seems chronologically, socially, and academically more mature than me. It is our culture to respect our elders, and I am a subscriber to most parts of it. If our Western Education and successes have blinded our usual senses, malapropically deemed "common," and deprived us of logical analyses and decorum, kindly count me as the rare exceptions to some of the rules.
How dare anyone of us (mostly in our 20s and 30s) challenge our elder brother, like "Big Steve" into a "Public" fight? Wouldn't the Igbo Nation (as a whole) be the losers? How dare we wish to force him to come and answer our acussations, right or wrong, in such a setting? Would you say that to your elder brothers, sisters, parents, other relatives, whether Biafran or Nigerian? Are your Igbo Blood-Line SUPERIOR to his? Do you know how much and irreplaceable his losses have been in the past Biafran War? Does he have a RIGHT to say "NO" to another Biafra, and still be a man? Have you ever dialogued with him? Would you not shed some tears, should you ever cared to listen to him or walked in his shoes? Do you know why a shrimp lives with a crooked back? Have you ever heard a Dove cry? Do you know why a "crab" preserves its claws?
In my wonderful "Uyo Township," not only will most of you be guilty of "abuse of your elders," some of the prices for such an insult could be so grave, indeed. I believe, I'd not be stretching it, if I dare say that brother "Big Steve" may be old enough to be a father to some of his acussers! Have we lost our respectable minds? Why do we not start by cursing out Chief Ojukwu? How about following in Okadigbo's shoes? As for me, I will, forever, respect age and history. Even in its rudiments, they often have some anecdotes to offer, which most historians, often, callously omit. Check with your living Elders to see, if I am wrong. He, who feels it, knows it, my siblings!
If my respect for a man who puts his neck out to demand accountability from OO, during "Okigwe purported Killings" (with a well-documented letter); coined the name "Obusonju", to criticize the present President and his maltreatment of the Igbos; defended most Igbo and other Eastern Minority Causes (in both Nigeriaworld and elsewhere); supports Governor Kalu's challenges of OO and his govt's marginalisation of Igbo States; became a fore-runner for some hopeful changes (with the initiation and coordination of the up-coming "Atlanta Conference"); helps, significantly, in raisng desperately needed funds for a sick Igbo child (with brother Ndigbo); made many enemies by getting into so many blood-bath-feuds with others, in Nigeriaworld, because of his unshaken support for Igbo Nation; fights, constantly, to better the lots of ALL Nigerians for permanent equality and fair-play, regardless of ethnicity - despite his very busy professional schedule and gradually advancing age; wrote and personally pleaded with another Ndigbo, brother Chuck odili, to bring back brothers Damian and Egwuatu (with yours truly, as a witness) et. al., when they were suspended; and numerous others trail-blazing challenges, are deemed sinful and "sabo." in nature, let me be found quilty as charged!
I pray that by the time any of us gets to be his age, we'd have done as much to help the lots of Ndigbo and Nigeria (Biafra or ANY course we believe in). I am very proud to call this particular saboteur, my SIBLING!
Maybe, I should be expelled from my wonderful Igbo brotherhood for such a praise. Maybe, it is a treasonable treasonable crime! Maybe, I should become an "Osu" and "Saboteur", for defending the indefensible, among my Igbo Siblings! Only time will tell. Whatever the case may be, this "Old Dog" has learnt quite a few, in his 30+ years on this earth.
Ndigbo says, "Okenye mee onwe ya k'ariri, nwata akparia ya". In order words, it means, "If an elder demeans himself, he gets a tongue lash from a child". No individual is greater than Ndigbo. Older does not mean wiser. Strings of oyibo classroom acquired certificates can NEVER pass for wisdom. Eldership title is earned, not doled out at command.
Steve Nwabuzor erred greatly by arrogating himself the position of scoldMASTER to Damian, Egwuatu, I G Nwafor, and others, when their opinions deferred from his and they failed to adhere to his overbearing and clamp down intimidations and blackmails. He proceeded to have them muzzled and silenced out of Nigeriaworld message board. If he's still living in the 60's and 70's, he has no business being on the 21st century internet where progressive people rub minds and ideas. If he's a coherent thinker, he should have known that it is unacceptable to use his connections to stiffle any free speech that is contrary to his. He doesn't seem to be comprehending that principle of free speech, at all. That's exactly what is wrong with Nigeria and the advocates of status quo-abiding One Nigerianers.
Steve is not the first to display (enlightening (?), Doctor of Nothing...as you put it) education, and frankly speaking, if his kind of demeanor is what comes with enlightening education, please spare Ndigbo with caveman illiteracy! Ndigbo do not do blind ( self-delusory) hero-worship. Ndigbo believe that charity begins at home. You serve Ndigbo well by proving your worth in service to them, then they appoint you Onunekwuru Igbo. You become accountable to them. One thing you are not allowed to do , is to develop wings on your own and assume to be mightier than Ndigbo.
When this man was developing his wings by muzzling and stiffling pro-Biafrans on the other board, he was bouyed by the cheers from fellow Northern/Yoruba One Nigerianers, including his new found connection with their boardmaster. I subtly pointed out to him the erroneous repercussions of his actions. If he was a true Ndigbo elder, he would have called his brothers together and made amends. Rather, he ignored my advice, added more weight on his beligerent and hawkish attitude toward the Biafrans and got them silenced permanently. Here, he betrayed a typical Nigerian elder's behavior, and certainly not that of Ndigbo elder. No amount of Western education or delusory successes can cure this kind of blindness.
We dare to challenge your elder brother, Steve. He has to be a person enough to publicly admit and atone for his public errors against Those Umu-Igbo in his reckless and arrogant drunkenness for power. So far, he's exhibiting a cowardly Nigerian style of not admitting or atoning for wrongs they perpetrated. Yes, Igbo Nation is best off losing such traitorous anti-Igbo progress, One Nigerianer! A Biafran Igbo's blood is Superior to that of a One Nigerian Ndigbo-hating Saboteur!
Ndigbo do not need to dialog with Steve, rather, he should approach Ndigbo with humility and respect in his quest for a dialog. No individual's single pain is greater than the Collective pain of Ndigbo/Biafra, quote me. Be thankful that no Biafran anywhere has this man as a (real/adopted/surrogate) father. Ndigbo would surely have been extinct since the middle sixties.
Colo, I'll have to caution you seriously here. "Do not compare your friend, steve Nwabuzor, tochief odumegwu Ojukwu". You can worship Steve all you can; you can also hate Ojukwu all you can, but please refrain from defeacating on him as you have done...in your bid to make Steve important. Steve is UNFIT to sweep the floor Ojukwu walked on. Awus/Fulani/Yoruba enslavement may have been the the chosen/accepted path you and Steve chose for yourselves, but do not attempt to pour venom on Ndigbo and her Legend who opted for Freedom from Bondage, instead.
At this juncture, it is very obvious that we are on the extreme sides of the ocean and are unlikely to agree. So, cut the chase! Stick with your One nigeria views while I stay with my Biafra Republic convictions. Your friend is a feeble saboteur seeking relevance among Ndigbo. If he want to partake of the great feast with Ndigbo/Biafra on this forum, he should ask for forgiveness and proceed to prove his worth with humility (its a virtue).
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COLO: Your argument is severely flawed. Using that type of weak reasoning, no one should say anything bad about Obasanjo and what he did in Odi or what he says about Igbos. After all Obasanjo is older than almost everyone on this board or at the other board, except may be Steve Nwabuzor. Are Egwuatu and Damian supposed to be psychic to be able to tell that Steve nwabuzor is an old man. You have not done Steve Nwabuzor's case any good by using that type of fallacy.
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” … however, to drag on forever, with some precipitations from the "inside" by those siblings, who may not like this gentleman at all, but have chosen to remain silent on the Board.” --- COLO
Brother COLO: Could you explain what you mean by that statement? By the way, if Steve Nwabuzor himself has remained silent and you see no problem with that, why are you concerned about others who you claim may have remained silent? Are you guilty of double standards? How do you know that others are silent? Is that what Nwabuzor told you in his “secret e-mail” to you? By the way, if “those siblings” have chosen to remain silent, how did you leap to your baseless conclusions about “precipitations from the "inside"?” Damian and IG Nwafor were the primary persons that had the disputes with Steve Nwabuzor at the old board. Both Damian and IG Nwafor, especially Damian, have spoken up here. The person that is hiding is Steve Nwabuzor. Why should anyone else come forward to speak for Steve Nwabuzor, if he refuses to speak for himself?
Perhaps, because he is a jurist, Nwa Aro was a little more skillful in handling the information that Steve Nwabuzor planted with both of you. We are now learning a little more from you than we learned from Nwa Aro about the scurrilous allegations in those so-called “private e-mails” that Steve Nwabuzor mass-mailed to you, Nwa Aro, and others. Keep writing. Eventually, it will all come out.
Steve Nwabuzor is still doing the same things that he has been openly accused of. Steve Nwabuzor is now engaging in character assassination via secret e-mail to you and others, and you are playing exactly according to Nwabuzor’s script. Nwabuzor is also indirectly engaging in character assassinations in this forum, using you as an enabler. Again, what do you mean by “precipitations from the "inside" by those siblings, who may not like this gentleman at all, but have chosen to remain silent on the Board.” The “drag[ging] on forever” of the Nwabuzor issue has been done by you and others who have been dwelling on this issue, even after everyone else has moved away from it. In a post from the other thread, the Administrator indicated that you wanted the thread to be reopened after s/he closed the thread. As soon as the thread was reopened, you went back to the Steve Nwabuzor issue. Yet, you have the nerve to complain about “drag[ging] on forever.” Indeed, Amanda started this thread because you continued to deviate from the issue of the thread that you started, spending your time instead on Steve Nwabuzor.
Very serious and direct allegations of abuse of privileged information have been made in connection with confidential information supplied to at least one of the planners of your Atlanta meeting. As the chairman of the planning committee, you should be ashamed of yourself that all you have done so far is come here to play “errand boy” (just to use your own words) for Steve Nwabuzor. That is very telling.
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COLO: You seem to have too much ”inside” information. Where are you getting the information from? Steve Nwabuzor, again? Have you spoken to Damian or Egwuatu, or IG Nwafor? Is that what Atlanta is all about. Backdoor gossip and secret e-mail filled with character assassinations of people who hold opposing views? Boy, am I glad you people don’t have my information. God forbid!!!!!!!!!
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The fact is, COLO, somehow, is not telling us the truth. Until he reveals all that he knows, then we will begin to take him serious.
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For Long now I have resisted the urge to speak on this issue because I was centrally involved. My gripe with Dr Nwabueze is well documented at Nigeria world. It will do me any good to continue to speak to a shadow who hides under surrogates to do his dirty work for him.
Now my biggest disappointment so far on this issue since it was exported to Biafra world, is that people like Colo have disingenuinely gotten involved in this issue. I am disappointed that Colo a sibbling I respect a great deal have taken side on this issue. Now instead of looking at sibbling Colo as a neutral abitrator I now see Colo as belonging to the camp of Big Steve. To me that was a shock because it goes contrary to everything I have known Colo for.
I will not get into debate with any surrogate about this issue until the main actor of this issue comes out of hiding. Sister Amanda said it all. Igbos/Biafra doesn't worship elders who demean themselves. Like she said Dimkpa me onwe ya ka rice ediri umu okpu.I am going to continue to watch this debate from the side line until such a time the main actor shows up. Anything I said now whether in favor or against Dr Nwabueze will be deemed as gossip. For that I will continue to maintain a position of watch and see.
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quote:There was a time, not long ago, in our Communities, where children (like most of us, in our 20s and 30s) were seen and never heard. All we did, was to listen, attentively, to the words of our Elders, however erroneous they may have been.
Brother COLO: Thank God, that time is gone forever. Besides, "children" are NOT allowed to participate on message boards such as this. People in their 20s and 30s are NOT children.
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COLO: Unlike you, some people are not subject to the manipulations of Steve Nwabuzor. May be that is why they are watching you play your role as a Nwabuzor's pawn.
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Dr Steve Nwabuzor remains an honorable person. He is a selfless service oriented minded person, and does not deserve to be castigated with all these unprintable words that is being generated here. This is an issue that should have died where it started.
I am amazed at the anger some of us harbored against people we have never met, and probably will never meet in our live time. It is verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy strange.
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Stop this your stupid cotail riding it is getting old. Since when did you graduated from Law school to become Dr Steve's advocator. You are nothing but coward yoruba trying to cause a fight and then try to find somebody to hold your stupid agbada so you can fight. My people how many time have you seen somebody who really wants to fight and his clothes stops him from fighting. If I want to fight I would not remove my shoes or watch talkless of my clothes. Anybody who does that like Babyboyz does, don't really want to fight he is just looking for a way out so that people can come and seperate them.
I am sorry that some of our Northerners have in past killed our Igbo brothers, At least our Igbo Brothers stayed around to fight. The coward yorubas like to jump the poor hausa/fulani in the night with OPC tuggs. babyboyz knows he can't fight that is why he is laching on to Big Steve and Colo pretending to believe in one Nigeria. Mumu ode Babyboyz doesn't even know what it takes to build a strong one Nigeria. How can we have strong Nigeria without our Igbo brothers, But instead of this mumu to build dialog he engages in provocations. Mumu Babyboyz have every right to be stupid like he said but to cause public disorder is a different thing.
Now that you have apologized on behalf of our "Northern brothers", I hope the inordinate urge to divide Nigeria will stop. It will be a shame if your apology fall on deaf ear.
Yours was hysterically funny. You need not to be insultive; it does not portray you as a disciplined mind.
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Bababoyz: If your hero, Steve, is "a selfless service minded person", he's barking the wrong trees here on this board ( and diaspora) with the wrong axe. Rather, he should utilize his "philantropy" in servicing desperate, under-privileged, and morally depraved One Nigeria grassroots in Nigeria.
Carping out here and suddenly waking up to the passing and changing times is no excuse for seeking relevance award. A n'amu aka ekpe na nka? (Is left-handedness learned in old age)?
So, my little blind hero-worshipper, perhaps you can show your "hero" the way to One Nigeria grassroots, abi?
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COLO: Adaeze asked you some very direct questions. I would not ignore those questions if I were you.
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Is our beloved COLO missing in action? Why is he not responding to the questions posed to him?
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Bababoyz, There is nothing you have posted in this web that tells me that you can be trusted. I wont even advice Big Steve to trust you. I am being sincere. The people on this web love Big Steve. They are only quarrelling with him like a brother. We all share a common pain with him which you have no part of in any way. The difference is only how the pain is being dealt with.
Ndiigbo, It is time to ignore this guy called Bababoyz who ever he may be. He does NOT love Bro. Steve more than any of you. He is a cheap shot shooter and a pretender.
Welcome, the newest member of bababoyz bashing Mafia. Trust is a subjective matter. I will like to know how one love someone you have never met, nor seen, nor feel. What a love that maligned.
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Bababoyz, My last word for you on this thread is that you have done on this thread what your uncle OO did by his utterances in Bayelsa which majority of Nigerians loated. It is called instigation, treachery , deceit, cheap shot below the belt, hypocricy,devilish agency. make peace not war.I am not religious but I do have faith that tells me to love my fellow men, how much more my countryman, or one who shares the same fate with me in my so called country. If you don't have the capacity to love your fellow man until you see the person despite the type of meaningful cyber-exchanges we have had on the web then my guess about your personality and my warning that you should be ignored and not be trusted has become vindicated. Love is a compound word useable in different circumstances.In this case I meant brotherly love (phileo) from which the name Philadelphia is derived and called the city of brotherly love. Even some on the web address us all as silblings. That for me is cool,I don't know about you. So mister reflect inwardly on yourself. You probably need some help.
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My Siblings, Accept my apology, both for passing on these insightful and tempting rebuttals (on their merits or lack thereof), especially the caring inquiries and postings from siblings Amanda Wekson and "Adaeze", Damian, Egwuatu, I.G.Nwafor, "LEO", et al., and my, obvious, late response. Sometimes working for my never-ending Bills, ALONE, can be so tasking! I need a free, beautiful, and seven-figure-earning wife, who's a Naija! Any suggestions? I did, however rush to write, "Wow!", during my earliest opportunity. Does that count for something? Just kidding!
Jokes aside, it is clear to me that my sister, Ms. Amanda Wekson, unintentionally, forgot to include this portion of my writing, when she started this thread:
quote: Brothers and Sisters, I believe we've turned this thread into a "Big Steve" bashing thread, AGAIN. This digression has caused useful answers I was seeking, such as sister "Amanda Wekson's," brother "Wind", et al., to be swallowed up in obscurity. That is not what this thread was all about. This will be my FINAL "Big Steve" writing on this thread, so help me O' God!
Most times, my words are as good as my bond. I am most certain that most of you, particularly those who'd been with us in "Nigeriaworld", know where I stand and where my Heart is, on most issues. If you felt slighted, disappointed, betrayed, disgusted, infuriated, hurt, I give you my sincere apologies. I have NOTHING but absolute respect and love for ALL of you. As one of your siblings, at all times, I have a RIGHT to agree or disagree with ANY or ALL of you. My usual belief is that, at the end of the day, we'd still have a lot left that'd unite us (as siblings), if carefully searched. The big question some of us may wish to answer (quietly, to ourselves) ought to be: Does a sibling's disagreement with another (in opinions or otherwise) necessarily make him a "Lunie" or a Bad Person? If the answer is "YES", then, may God help us, because we're all guilty as charged. Not just us, but our Parents, Teachers, Mentors, World Leaders, et al., are guity, too. Afterall, they trained us! I have answered that same question, and I am very content with my choice. Are you with yours?
Concluding, I want to thank many of you for the series of missed calls (and wonderful messages). I appreciate all the caring emails, but my box is now full. I didn't know how much I am loved. I love you too! Let me reassure all of you, that I am NOT leaving this MessageBoard, unless BANNED by our brother (sister) Administrator; hopefully, for an offense, which I am certain, I'd be incorruptibly judged, like ANY other member. I belong here, with all of you, not some, but ALL.
FINALLY, my CLOSET has NOTHING, but clothes, shoes, socks, some misplaced telephone numbers of beautiful ladies, old pizza slices and burgers, and maybe, ONE CLEAN underwear! The last dress a former Lover "FORGOT" was sent by "FEDEX", to the owner, by my irate but lovely god-daughter (during one of her many impromtu visits with her "friends"!). Have a Good day, Folks.
I wish I were a matchmaker, I dare say, you seem to need a better-half. I have a buddy in Atlanta, a pity I could not make it there, accommodation guaranteed, maybe I will contact him to help me out. I will very like to have you around for a long time.
Meanwhile, Folks let’s give our beloved sibling Colo, a hand in his search, don’t let the statement: ‘free, beautiful, and seven-figure-earning wife, who's a Naija! , distract you.
Just believe me, the brother is matured for the commitment.
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Colo, Well done with your postings and particularly the last one. Through my cyber perception of you kind of person, you have been cherished. May God answer your prayers.
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Bro COLO: You are a real man and a true brother. You have indeed shown that remarkable spirit of oneness and may God help you in all your endeavors, especially the seven-figure corporate elite, tall, sexy and beautiful bride to be.
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Colo, Apology acepted. Just don't go stirring the hornets' nest again.
Oh...on your search for a "naija" superior half, me thinks that Bababoyz and Bature can make a better recommendation. You know, we Biafrans reserve our superior halfs for ourselves. (wink).
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COLO: Thanks for your apology. In the spirit of good debates, it might have been better for you to answer my questions instead of offering an apology. I hope you know that none of this is personal. We love you, even though you are a misguided former Biafran - misguided, because you are now a one-nigerianist. You presented us with a situation that had to be dealt with. It would have been disrespectful, and I am sure you would have felt bad if we just ignored your posts.
Anyway, you are disqualified from marrying into my family because you are a one-nigerianist. I am already married, and my sister is as pro-Biafra as Amanda. It is one thing to watch the Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba perpetrators of genocide and seek ways to combat them. It is quite another thing altogether to have to go home to their countryman and call him one's husband. Otherwise, I
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