You are so wrong, the onus is on you one Nigerianist to justify status quo. Did you take a census before forming Nigeria? Learn to live with it sir, Biafrans have begun the exodus from your suffocating contraption. Try anwering the question why do you need Igbo's in Nigeria?
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ayodele how will you be affected by Biafra splitting off you will loose the opportuity to share in the great wealth of biafra we dont need the west we can function without you but you cant even feed yourselves without us.Can you see the light now your country imports all its food with biafran petro dollars.I can see you are aware that the west has nothing to offer the cocoa farms are abandoned by government parasites.One nigeria has always been screamed for when you ehtnic intrests are parmount. Sorry the time has come for us to leave our excess baggage behind[nigeria] and work on our own programs and development.you can only fool us some of the time this is not 1967 when awo promised to follow us this is not june 12 when you promised action and let abiola go to the gods as the people abandoned lagos history will not repeat it self WE DONT CARE WHAT THE REST OF YOU THINK WE WANT TO GO.
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Chiboy: The status quo requires no justification. Change does. You must always furnish the reason why change is needed. In the case of secession, you must show that it has the support of the majority of at least the people that will be seceding. In this case, you need to show that the secession bid enjoys the support of the majority of Igbos and perhaps the eastern minorities, if they are to be included in the new Biafra.
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Ayodele: You raise some excellent points. It seems that what we have here is a highly educated and well financed minority that is well equipped, has access to the latest technology, and has used those resources to take control of the voice of Ndi-Igbo. When did Igbos decide that they want to secede from Nigeria? These young people are using their tremendous intellectual and financial resources to lord it over the majority of Igbos.
Can't you see that even the Igbos still at Nigeriaworld are now ashamed to publicly speak in favor of the Atlanta conference? That is how powerful these young fellows are. They have to be stopped. If any Igbos go against them, that Igbo becomes a "moderate Igbo" (i.e saboteur). Haba. These young men and women have succeeded in giving the word "moderate" a bad name. They must be stopped.
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Oh here comes the Igbo messiah Mr Adekunle who knows Igbos better than Igbos themselves. The More your Uncle Obusonju arrest and harassed Chief Ralph and MASSOB the more grassroot support MASSOB gets. Like I said you want us to disclose Biafran stragegy to untrusteworthy Nigerians like you. As far as I am concern the Yorubas are the enemies of Igbos because you have done enough ethnic cleansing Igbos for Igbos not to ever trust you.
As for your socalled moderate Igbos who is stoping them from going to your stupid Atlanta. Another means for you yorubas to tell an Igbo child to go to heil. We don't want to be in your sinking ship what part of that you don't understand. Get it through your thick skull Igbos are tired of been in a shipp that is going no where.
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Ayodele, We are the mouth piece of Ndigbo grassroot and we are carrying out their mandates. You better get used to it...we are certainly leaving your Nigeriacounry for Biafra. One thing you have to understand is that we cannot divulge sensitive information about Biafra Republic here...even a middleschooler knows that.
What you should rather concern yourself with, is how you're going to survive in a Nigeria nation with your Hausa/Fulani/Tiv/Kanuri cohorts. You know you are all birds of the same feather and you will surely flock together. So those of you who have never done an honest hard work in life should tighten your belt and start learning how to. Time is not on your side. You'll wake up one morning to see the newly independent children of the Rising Sun waving their Biafra Republic flags, all smiles and jubilant in optimism. Poor you, that day will be a day of mourning for you....your bread basket is gone!
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Adekunle, Go to your Yoruba enclave and preach to your tribe, the values and rewards of honest hard work....if you believe in such. Let them know that their lazy parasitical leeching of Biafra and her oils including the frills that come with it is on its last leg.
So now, you are so concerned about Ndigbo! Ouch! I'm doubling over in gratitude! You are a funny passerby stranger who wept more than the bereaved. Concentrate on realizing Oduduwa republic...if you still believe in it. Do something about your folk tongue which seem to be inherent in you.
The Igbos have conscience...unlike you. So if those Igbos in Nigeriaworld are having a change of heart, Ndigbo expect it, welcome it, and commend it. Let the status quo one Nigeria leechy hypocrites like you head to Atlanta for your 419 owambe joy ride. Even our saboteur moderates can be embraced back into the fold, when they repent, atone, and ask to be taken in. Always remember that Igbo blood is thicker than all the waters coming from the Adekunles. Desist from crying for Ndigbo, cry for Yoruba harlotry, bigotry, and their wasted opportunities.
You wrote: "they have to be stopped". Meaning us Biafrans.
My comment: Good luck!
Ayodele,
I find it somewaht insulting that a Yoruba man has taken it upon himself to teach Ndi'igbo democracy. How annoying! Is it not in yoruba land that once a few elders with out-moded concepts have spoken, then the thinking has been done and all will follow? No wonder they get on well with the servile people of the far north where the satanic chant of one drunken emir is enough to send many young people to commit suicide in the hope of going to paradise.
I've heard some of your young people cry silently about the lack of youth and dynamism in Yoruba politics, but off course they dare not cry out loud for fear of antagonising the corrupt elders who they must 'dobali' to.
The wind of change is sweeping across Biafra and every Biafran knows it. That is why Kalu got a standing ovation when he took the stage at Enugu while people read their newspapers when Ojo and Anyim spoke. If you are still keen on numbers, then you must've read that Onitsha market literarily closed down @ mid day because Ralph uwazurike was passing through.
If you call typing a few lines on the WWW high technology, then you ain't seen nothing yet. We have wasted about 30yrs sticking around with you guys and it is time to move if we won't fossilize in a set up that consider owning a telephone luxury in the 21st century!
We want out period!
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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Mr Ayodele I like to share this with you and other forum member. This was written by a Biafran
Mazi Okonkwo ( Please forgive me if you are Nwada):
This is a very insightful posting, and I thank you for that.
1) Some have suggested or implied on this forum that "the grassroots" are not ready for anything that shakes up the status quo in Nigeria. Well, it depends on how you define grassroots. The fact is that there is enough "fed-up'ness" in Igboland to fuel a thousand revolutions, and sooner or later, a patch of the grass will rise up against oppression and injustice.
2) Now is the time for Ndigbo to speak with one voice, support Ohaneze at least in this incident, and support the students unequivocally. A few detractors may b tempted to say, Go home and do so from there. But, historically and experientially, it is a fact that whatever voice that we in Diaspora can raise in support of events like this has a greater leveraging effect.
3) A Sovereign National Conference is a way to get everybody to leave Nigeria in peace through honest dialogue and negotiations. The Northerners have realized that Sharia is more important to them than the burden of harboring infidels (under the umbrella of one Nigeria) whom they will murder at any excuse, the only cost to them being bad press for their religion.
4) While the old cadre threatened war at the mention of Resource Control, the current Northern rulers have instead started to prove or at least explore their independence: they plan to prospect for oil in the North; (with Federal money--i.e., Southern oil money, of course); they tout their strength in agriculture and animal husbandry; and minerals. In short, they are going to prove that they don't need the South. Great! I pray that they can see that in reality, they don't need the South--at least, not in this one Nigeria shackle. In the final analysis, all the nations of Nigeria, after actualization, will still find out that they are one another's closest trading partners. But in this case, they trade with equity and under international laws.
5) Ndigbo: please don't be caught again defending one Nigeria. It will be a shame if all other nations of Nigeria are ready and willing to go their separate ways, and the Igbo will be the only ones insisting on one Nigeria. Let me repeat here what I have said before:
The greatest failing of the Igbo is not Biafra; it is working and getting killed to keep Nigeria one or to prove that Nigeria is one. Nigeria was never, is not, and never shall be one, no matter how much the Igbo shed their blood and pour their sweat to prove otherwise.
6) Finally, what is going on is not a "market affair" as has been suggested here in an earlier post. The revolution that is happening and will happen in Nigeria is not going to be like a consumer going to a shopping mall to pick and choose what they want to buy, or a voter going to pick his or her favorite candidate. The marketplace or voter analogy reveals either a denial or lack of appreciation of the whirlwind that is about to sweep through Nigeria. We can best be ready, and steer this thing through the path of peace, or we can be unprepared, and be swept away.
Let's support the students and Ohaneze. We want a Sovereign National Conference at this time.
Thanks.
___________________ Biafra: save my bullets when I die, Oh Biafra, Allelua if I surrender and that will be forever.
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Have you noticed how every one(non Igbo) seems to know whar is best for Igbos?. Now people who have never been to Biafraland, not to speak of interracting with the grassroots are now labelling us the minority. I suspect these are the same people who ignored us when we complained about injustice and equality in Nigeria claiming it was a Minority view. We complained of Injustice for over 20 years and were ignored ,then IBB annuls the election, and Abacha jailed MKO, hey presto everyone is complaining of injustice. Abacha is dead, OBJ is President , so people no longer consider injustice to exist. These are the people who would be happy only after we have been wiped out.
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All this national conference when has any conference brouht anything good to the east we are tired and hungry lets us go and have our own conferences let us go and spend our own wealth and try self rule maybe we do better
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Ayodele and Adekunle, Do you guys think we care about your sleepness nights regard our decision for self determination. There is no going back in our quest to be left alone. If you have not seen a country of never do wells. It is your Nigeria. Sometime ago an Igbo kid forteen years old, who schools in England was here on vacation. He told me he read about all what Ndi-Igbo as a people have gone through in Nigeria. I then told him more of the tragedy called Nigeria and what our people have lost just for being part of Nigeria. This kid was so upset, that he asked me, what we are still doing with Nigeria, cant we have our own country he asked? That is our next move. We are fedup with hoping against hope.
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Olu & Co: The starter of this thread did ask "why do you (one Nigerians) need Igbos...?", he did not ask Yorubas or any non-Igbo to tell us to hold a plebiscite to determine whether Igbos want out of Nigeria or not. So far, except of Muda Kaduna, non of you so-called one Nigerians have been able to tell why the Igbos should remain Nigeria. Though I am a non one-Nigerian to the core, I for democratic reasons often wish to hear/read the agurements from those on the other side, unfortunately, whenever folks like you are given the opportunity to tell the Igbos why they should remain in the same country with you, because you do not have any convincing reason, you try to divert topic to something else, fortunately, the Igbos on this board are probable the most focused and the most consistent, hence, the empty threat that "they most be stopped", I am afraid nobody can stop anything when its time has come. If you really want to know what the Igbos want - separation or to stay in Nigeria, then write Uncle Sege to hold a referendum in all the Igbo-speaking states of eastern Nigeria, the out-come will practically answer your selfish question, before then, do not expect anyone here to answer your silly question.
As for the Atlanta jamboree, those who proposed to meet in Atlanta are no better, some are worse than the narrow-minded, selfish and visionless misfits who parade themselves as "leaders" in Nigeria.
Amanda: Thanks for the academic and historical way you explained to Muda Kaduna the difference between an occupied USA and an independent Igbo nation. America is an immigrant Nation, Nigeria which some try to compare to America is not, every ethnic group in Nigeria knows where her physical, linguistical and cultural border starts and ends. Even the US they sometimes refer to has former children of slaves like Condelissa and Powel as National Security adviser and Secretary of State respectively, can those who claim to be one Nigerians and want us to join them in their deceit tell us an Igboman or woman who is a member of the Nigerian National Security Council?
Administrator/Webmaster: I love that 'Senior/Advocate member' as against the former 'New/Senior' title under each member's username. It sets this message board ahead of its competitors. Keep the Biafran ingenuity alive!!
I commend professional teachers. They must have the patience of Job to be able to keep hammering into empty sculls of dullard/dunce students on common sense facts without splitting their sculls open.
Such is the case of these pretentious one Nigerianers on this board. And they say they received western enlightenment! You go figure! I hate to teach their illiterates, then.
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Olu, You deliberately misquoted bro Chima who said that he doesn't care about your sleepless nights regarding our (Biafra's) decision for self determination. No thanks to your snaky twists!
Why don't you concentrate on telling us why you're having sleepless nights about Biafra Actualization? I'm sure its not that difficult to answer. Quit bushwhacking around!
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Mustafa: Welcome on board, whether you came with a bang or as a whimper. THE REALITY ABOUT NIGERIA IS THAT IT IS UNREAL. If Nigeria as presently structured is "real", not fictional, then, why are Northerners like Balarabe Musa suggesting that "there will be a revolution in Nigeria...It will start from the NORTH"? Why are your people trying to put asunder what in your words "god (hope you do not mean Jehova God) has put together"? Is it that you Northerners just woke up from slumber in 2001, almost thirty-plus years the Igbos did? If that is the case, GOOOOD MORRRRNING!
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Mustapha, Empty headed leechy oppressive wimps always go out with a whimper. Does Mobutu, Noriega, Hitler, ring a bell in your empty scull?
Leeches like you will find no reason to be alife once the Biafrans move on. Take your pick. If you're losing with a bang, its on your scumy head, if its a whimper, its on your snivery worthles existence. One way or the other, you are finished.
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Nwa Aro, Change must come to every society for better or for worse. I conceed that the Nigerian federation is imperfect. To put it on the road to perfection should be our goal. that is the revolution that Mr Musa speaks about. it is a revolution that builds up, not destroys. It is a revolution that brings people together, not drives them apart.You sound like a man of good reason, come lets join together in something really worth striving for.
Amanda, It seems too easily your rainbow coloured enclave is rattled.Let go of the anger and embrace reason. You'll be the better for it, believe me
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My God, are Biafrans wasting words on Mustapha ? Folks we already engaged him on another thread and found the fellow quite empty.How do you argue with a man who believes the bones of dead hausa/fulani nothern immigrants formed the oil in the lower Niger?
quote:Originally posted by chiboy: How do you argue with a man who believes the bones of dead hausa/fulani nothern immigrants formed the oil in the lower Niger?
Words of wisdom. You might want to add a few dead cattle as well. It is amazing to think that this guy represents the elite wing of North.
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Umu Baifra Biko ejiri aha Biafra na ayoo unu nile hapunu nwoke a Mustapha, obiara imahe anyi ihu. Lets concentrate on our efforts in debating ways to actualize Biafra and leave confusionist alone. Those people are waiting for the oil wells in the east region to dry up before going back to their saudi masters.
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Biko nu , gere nu ihe nwanne anyi nwoke Biafra kwuru. ObodoBiafra anyi bu nobi a bughi kwa nke ndi nzuzu. O bu nke ndi isi di nma na kwa ndi isi zuru oke. Unu e kwe kwala ka ihere me anyi. Chukwu n'onyere anyi dum.
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You Yorubas and hausas were asked a simple question. Instead of answering that question, you are beating about the bush. It's a shame that none of you is able to say why Igbos should stay in Nigeria. Are you ashamed to admit that you are a bunch of cannibals who like the corpses of all the Igbos you murder in cold blood? Murder, rape, arson, looting, etc are all that Igbos get for being trapped in that country with you Hausas/Yorubas/Tivs/Idomas/Igala/etc butchers.
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Umu Biafra ibem, Its has obviously dawned on all and sundry that the one Nigerianer status quo parasites are unable to make a case (seriously, tangible or convincingly) why they need the Igbos in Nigeria. We gave them the benefit of the doubt, and as expected, they had no case hence they resorted to empty threats and rhetorics.
Fear and desperation has gripped them as everywhere they turn, they see signs of emerging Biafra Republic. Now, my advice for these disgruntled Nigerians is to start adjusting to the reality of Biafra Nation. Their acts during this period will weigh in a lot in our future relations with them as fellow ECOWAS country/neighbor.
However, we appreciate the input of all the Nigerians in this quest for truth.
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