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The fight for freedom is not a Biafran fight alone. It is a fight that must be fought by all well meaning Nigerians for the true salvation of our country from the clutching claws of our greedy tribal lords. My Biafran siblings have expressed a lot of anger against other perceived enemy tribes of Nigeria, but one thing they have failed to realized or deliberately ignored is that, the ordinary masses on the streets of Nigeria are suffering from the same oppression, maltreatment, unwarranted killings, hunger, backwardness, stagnancy and all the tell tale evil machinations that they are plaguing my people.
The civil war was a sad story in the annals of Nigeria and I do acknowledge that the same reason why the war was fought then, still exists in Nigeria today and on a larger scale. But, I strongly disagree that secession is the answer. We should obey the Bible injunction that implores us to be our brother keepers. Let us join hands together with MALAM, NGBATI, ABASI, and OKOROCHA, to fight this oppression. It is not a sectional fight, rather it is a general fight that we have to fight together, and in my opinion, we do not need any machine guns or artillery machine to fight this war. We do not need to shed innocent bloods again. It is fight that can be won without shedding blood.
I dare say that the ordinary Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw, Middlebelter do not have anything against his Ndigbo brothers and sisters. The real enemies are those rogues who are using the ignorance and lack of education on the part of my people to exploit them.
All those tribal warlords who are busy using MASSOB, OPC, IJAW YOUTHS, AREWA, BAKASSI etc. to perpetrate their dastardly acts for the disintegration of Nigeria are only playing upon the intelligence of my people. They are using the ignorance of these people to perpetrate their destructive acts in pursuit of their personal aggrandizement. The saddest part of it is that you and I that have supposedly benefited from our sojourn and education in the so-called civilized world are falling prey to this evil venture.
Nigeria was destined to be one indivisible country and that was why the infamous 3 years of war ended with no split. It will have no personal effect on my immediate family and me if Biafra should secede today, but the problem is larger than me, there is no nation that allows for secession without the bloods of innocent people being shed. Do we want another bloodshed to run through our land, I don’t think so. I am solely opposed to the call for Biafra because there is no way that will happen peacefully.
___________________ Bababoyz, EzeGburuGburu of BiafraNigeriaWorld
quote:The civil war was a sad story in the annals of Nigeria and I do acknowledge that the same reason why the war was fought then, still exists in Nigeria today and on a larger scale.— Bababoyz
Judging by your past post on this and the old board, it might be interesting to know when you came to that realization.
quote: Let us join hands together with MALAM, NGBATI, ABASI, and OKOROCHA, to fight this oppression.
While this is a noble thought, I must impress on you that it only makes sense to remove the sand from your eyes first, so you can see clearly to help others around you. Time and History has consistently shown that Nigeria is an impediment to Biafra and indeed the South.
An independent Biafra with or without the Southern Nigerian Minorities will be such a formidable force that they will play the role The US or Japan currently plays in Asia. Their success will only bring the rest of Africa including the inept Hausa/Fulani Northern Nigeria to her senses. So you see, this can only lead to a win-win situation for Africa.
quote: I dare say that the ordinary Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw, Middlebelter do not have anything against his Ndigbo brothers and sisters. The real enemies are those rogues who are using the ignorance and lack of education on the part of my people to exploit them.- Bababoyz
Then the ordinary Hausa should declare their own leaders persona-non-grata in the community. In the South, youths will organize, and destroy the personal property and possibly anything else that belongs to any treasonous and treasonable leader. I have not heard of the Talakawas mobilizing toward Abacha’s Kano residence or Babangida’s Hilltop Mansion. Instead all we hear is praise and continuous ‘ranka dede’ follower ship from them towards their inept leaders.
quote: Nigeria was destined to be one indivisible country and that was why the infamous 3 years of war ended with no split. – Bababoyz
Could you please refer us to what part of the scriptures predestined Nigeria? Or did you mistake Lord Lugard to be the messiah referred to in our scriptures?
quote: It will have no personal effect on my immediate family and me if Biafra should secede today,… Bababoyz
Apparently the lazy Jihadist lords in the North do not share your nonchalant predisposition about secession that is why we are having this discussion.
quote: there is no nation that allows for secession without the bloods of innocent people being shed. – Bababoyz
The last time I checked, the Soviet Union split without a drop of blood, and so did cheslokovakia. As for innocent blood, isn’t the murderous Hausa/Fulani Oligarchy still spilling that as we speak? Or did you forget Odi so quickly because like you said it didn’t affect your family?
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bababoyz: Was this your answer to the question "why should Igbos stay in Nigeria?" If so, why did you not put it in the thread started by waypoint1Biafra? If not, shouldn't you have anticipated that wind would make such mince meat of your theses?
How come it is always those so-called ordinary and innocent, Yoruba (area boys), ordinary Hausa-Fulani, and ordinary Middle-Belter that is caught red-handed with the murder weapon in his hand as the poor Igbo victim takes his last breath? Is it always enough for these ranka dede ordinary murderers to simply say na Oga tell me make I do am?
When the Igbos decided to retaliate at Aba, you did not hear us make some stupid excuse blaming our justified anger on some nebulous Igbo elite. Did you? The truth is that these so called ordinary people are just as hateful and Igbo-bloodthirsty as the so-called elite in the West and the North.
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___________________ Tụfue nu nwa melụ alụ, olue echi amụta ọzọ
Keep selling your snake oil, you won't find any customers here. --------------------------------------------- "I dare say that the ordinary Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw, Middlebelter do not have anything against his Ndigbo brothers and sisters. The real enemies are those rogues who are using the ignorance and lack of education on the part of my people to exploit them.- Bababoyz" ---------------------------------------------
Read below and guess who's trucks and businessess are being torched by the Igbo loving ordinary Hausa/Fulani.I guess their elders are putting the petrol in their hands and are forcing them to do all these things.Just like the ordinary Yoruba watched as Awo and Enahoro starved Biafran babies.
Consignment of Liquor Burnt in Zamfara State
UN Integrated Regional Information Network (Nairobi)
May 2, 2001 Posted to the web May 2, 2001
Three trucks loaded with beer were set ablaze on Friday by a mob in Zamfara State, following a call by Governor Ahmed Sani to destroy any consignment of liquor entering the state, AFP quoted a state-run Kano radio report as saying. Sani, speaking at the inauguration of a new mosque, said his decision was aimed at liquor operators who refused to abide by the state's Islamic law, or Sharia, which bans the sale and possession of alcohol.
In January 2000, Zamfara became the first Nigerian state to implement the Islamic legal code in 2000. Since then, ten other Northern states have either introduced or plan to introduce it. Similarly vigilantes in Kano State have attacked several hotels and restaurants on suspicion that they stocked alcoholic drinks. The state-owned hotel has also banned Christian-related activities on its premises.
Sharia's introduction has remained a contentious issue in Nigeria as it is supposed to be a secular country. Thousands of people were killed in the northern state of Kaduna last year in rioting which broke out between Non-Muslims and Muslims over plans by the government to introduce Sharia.
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So a Nigerian cannot buy a truckload of liquor from the South and ship it to his house in Zamfara for a private party?
Amidst all this injustice and inequality, some stupid and misguided Southerners are quick to agree with the Northern Jihads that Sharia is for Muslims alone and that Nigeria is a secular state.
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BabaBoyz, I have to say that your article may have been thought provoking, had it not been for the case of thought that, done that, and have numerous deaths and injustices to show for it. Many of us had thought the way you are thinking now but have realised the futility of being in the entity called Nigeria. Even Christ said you can take action( after you have been wronged 70x70 times). We have endured more than that! I suspect that you have not been to Nigeria for a long time , or that you have not tried to find out why people from the East are clamouring for the actualisation of Biafra 30 years after the end of the civil war. You say that the ordinary man in the street has no qualms with his Biafran brothers, but we are yet to hear of a case where a Biafran was killed,or his property looted by the so called Elite. It has always been either the almajiri or the area boys. You also say that that you will not want another war as it will result in another bloodshed. Biafran blood is being shed all the time, ask in Odi, ask in Okigwe. Is it not better if we lose 1 million over 3years and get our freedom once and for all than to lose tens of thousands each year till ethernity and stiil be second class citizens?. This reminds me of a game we used to play while we were kids. We go about in groups chasing Goats around, we always left it an escape route. In that way we were happy, the goat got some exercise. Goats, you will realise are timid animals ,but once you dont leave an escape route, they come out fighting and you will get hurt. At present we Biafrans are living the existence of Odi Ndu Onwu Ka Mma translated 'he that is alive, but would be better off dead'.
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all this reconsilatory talk and one nigeria what planet are you on this is crazy .Igbo people are killed on regular basis no one is ever tried or copensated does this not make you feel cheap you are talking like Ironsi who ended up dead you need to study the history you are only tolerated because of the oil in the east .no oil you would have been let go a long time ago.You are just another boot licking Igbo shame on you
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Well said brother Rudek!, all the people who are shouting One Nigeria will be the same people to kick us out when the oil finishes. BTW if you are refering to Bababoyz, I dont think he is Igbo.
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Bababoyz, Wind did a great and applause-worthy justice to your ignorant rantings. Like the strike in the back coward you are, you had to sneak in this thread in other to beat around your curse-infected Nigerian bush while avoiding the thread about why you want the Igbos to remain in your Nigeria. I pity any human being looking up to you.
In your twisted logic, you rationalized that Biafrans have to be shackled to you in order for your Nigeria to be turned around, right? Your thirst for their blood is never quenchable, is it? Learn how to pull yourselves up by your very own bootstraps...now that you claim to have gotten western progressive knowledge.
If you want to be credible at all, start campaigning to your Nigerian leaders and rulers to let the Biafrans go. Quit the pathetic rhetorics. Your thread is reeking of hypocrisy, envy, hatred, ignorance, and pull them down mentality, Baba Ige!
The Biafrans are in the process of going it alone, shackle-free of Nigeria. They have been pulling themselves by their bootstraps. How about you?
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Umuigbo anyi Kwenu! Umuigbo, Kwezuo nu Anyi ga ebi o
I tell ya u don know how I feel discovering this board. I have bee reading all the posts since last month when I read about Big Steve and his lawyers. Could Big Steve have hired my own cousin to fight his own people?
Umuibe, ekenekwam unu o. Ndeewo
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It is unfortunate that some have come to see my comments as reconciliatory or ignorant rhetoric’s, but one fact remain undisputed, the blood of innocents that will flow in the aftermath of such misguided venture. I have no intention either by design or otherwise to sound sorry or retract from my believe as contained therein in my earlier posting. I have expressed my views and fear about the fact of wasting innocent lives for an unnecessary war, I am yet to read from any of my adamant friends from the other side on how they will go about actualizing their day dream without the shedding of innocent bloods. Probably if I know how this will be done without bringing bloodbath, then I might join the see you later wagon.
If war breaks out in Nigeria today, how many of us will leave the pleasure of our mortgaged houses for the war front. I am sure those who fought the civil war will never pray to see another war like that.
In the ignorance of our minds we start talking about the superiority of one tribe over the other, thereby creating illusions that are not there. What makes the Ndigbo thinks he is not part of the problem called Nigeria. Every ethnic base in Nigeria have contributed one way or the other to the degeneration of the country. The notion that the Northerners are the sole contributors to what Nigeria has become today, because of their leadership in government is nothing but a fallacy. We have the Umaru Dikkos in the North, the Jim Nwobodos in the East and the Akinloyes in the West. The war we should be fighting is against these people and not against the state of Nigeria.
The strength of diversity cannot be over emphasized, it is the strength the powerful nations of the world strive in. It is one of the greatest strength of United States. East and West German reunited to once again become the most powerful nation, economic and military wise in Europe. South and North Korea are talking reconciliation, Hong Kong returned to China after so long in the hands Of Britain. Soviet Union used to be a very powerful nation, but at the demise of the Union, all the tribal republics became irrelevant in the committee of nations (The war in Chechen is still raging). There is more strength in Nigeria remaining as one big country than breaking into Biafra, Oduduwa and Arewa republics. Nigeria, with her diverse ethnic bases is the endowed but slumbering power of Africa and all efforts should be geared towards waking her up instead of chopping her leg off. There is power in number.
___________________ Bababoyz, EzeGburuGburu of BiafraNigeriaWorld
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Amucha 1, You are welcome to this site. The webmaster will not hesitate to tell you that this is home for you. Please we need you and all our brothers, and that includes Big Steve. Please speak peace and love for all our brothers and sisters here. We are all victims of the same oppressors and are all hurting together. The fact that we differ in our approach to the solution should not cause us to turn enemies. Let us not bring any more negative talk about our brother anymore. The struggle must continue and our common goal must be reached.
Bababoyz, I adviced forumites here to ignore you. I have not changed my mind. Your above posting is borrowed and you are not sincere. Yet, you had the guts to talk against the very people who have risked their lives and family comforts to protect or promote Biafra and Biafrans. A true repentance on the part of any Nigerian must be unattached to what we want to do for ourselves as a people be it as Biafrans or as it is today. Biafra can either be a good neighbor of Nigeria if you and the rest of Nigeria are sincere. But from your posting you are threatening Biafra with bloodshed. So you are not sincere. You want Biafra for what you are getting from it, that is why you are sounding conciliatory. E no go work. Once bitten twice shy.
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Emela: Thank you very plenty for welcoming me to this magnificent forum of Igbo discourse. You see, a friend told me about the website to which he insisted I must be part of in defending the Igbo nation, on which I was skeptical until I read most of the commentaries and opinions.
The very one that disturbed me was a post forwarded by COLO regarding Big Steve's initiatives and his hiring of a lawyer by the name of Mbamah who happens to be my cousin and resides in the Detriot area, demanding a libel to close this web site. Well, Big Steve went to the wrong lawyer because Mbamah would not support his intent to destroy his own people.
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Bababoyz, You are not a Biafran. Even if you are, you will not be shown the blue print of Biafra Actualization agenda. Its simply not done.
If you're daydreaming of flow of blood in your dreamy misguided venture, know that it is your Nigerian blood that will flow this time around (in your enclave) should your nightmare drive you to embark on another misguided venture against the Biafrans.
The funny thing is that a backward Nigerian like you see no other means Biafrans can make their exit from Nigeria without your resorting to murdering them. You display an animalistic mentality of dealing with and accepting reality. ( I see you'd resort to murder, should your bread winner wife decide to leave you). You are highly irrational. Your western exposure is a hopelessly futile exercise. Goes to show that a man can be taken out of the bush, but the bush cannot be taken out of him.
You know very well that Ndigbo and Biafrans are far too superior to you. You confirm that by desperately trying to clutch unto them in your bid to rationalize your existence. You are shameless. Instead of rambling desperately about forced and farcical Nigerian unity and population, why don't you unite with Hausa, Fulani, Tiv, Nupe, Igala, Kanuri, etc...all from the North, and form a greater and prosperous Nigeria that Biafra could envy? Don't tell me that you are too blind intelligently handicapped to see "the diverse ethnic bases that you are endowed with...from the above mentioned tribes." If you can't, then it is the yearning for Biafra's superiority that is blinding you.
I know now that you are extremely ignorant and one-track minded. (1) "The diverse people that made up the population of US VOLUNTARILY migrated to US (with the exception of the enslaved Africans). Such immigration was not thru the barrel of the gun or by force. Make it a point of duty and check out any US history book from any library and read for yourself.
(2) The East and West Germans are same tribe that spoke same language called german. They were slashed into two after the 2nd World War. The East went to USSR, while the West went to US/UK/France. They REUNITED at the end of the cold war (1990).
(3) South and North Korea are same tribe, same language. They were divided by an externally aided war (by US). US encouraged the continued separation by aiding South Korea, while USSR and China aided North Korea. Now, they are coming together, with the help of China and EU...to the displeasure of US.
(4) When regions of USSR were being reverted back to their former Nation states thru the brokerage of UN, all the Nations on board USSR opted out and got their independence back. The Islamic region of Chechya turned blind eyes to such independence exercise. They were basking in their kickbacks and prop ups by Russia. Too late, they discovered that the Freedom ship has set sail.
Now, Mr. bigoted Ignorance, compare the above Nations' situation to Biafra and tell me where lies the similarity? Ya gotta follow the world history and news, and come out of agboro area boyz mentality. Constructively tax your mind sometimes, you may be humbly but pleasantly surprised. Free your mind from "if I can't have them, I'll kill them" psychotic mentality.
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Amanda: So why Biafrans and Nigeria can't unite when the East and West Germany did so?
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bababoyz You are definitely dreaming if you think that Nigeria is the power of Africa. You couldn't surpress come RUF rebels in Sierra Leone how the heil in the world can you consider yourself an African power. South Africa just Purchased your only defense company. The Biafran Rocket technology you will never lay your filty hands on the formula.
Nigeria diversity is a cause not a blessing because you can not engage in ethnic cleansing and enjoy the fruit of diversity. Our Igbos have a saying Oolo m ogaji afu uka. Meaning I don't want anymore can't cause trouble. Igbos are saying we don't want Nigeria any more leave us alone to determine our own faith which part of that calls for war. We are not asking for war all we are asking is for you Nigerians to leaves alone, Stop ethnically cleansing our people. You drop the Ball when you said ordinary hausa and middle belter doesn't hate Igbos then who is do all the killing of Igbos.
When I saw the thread and the name of the originator yesterday, I just felt my time was better spent else where. I still feel that way.
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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Ohafia, I had the same thought as you. But on second thought, I realized that if a tiny bump on the scrotum is ignored, it can turn into a hernia (laugh). Such is the cas of this Areaboyz.
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Ugali, Biafrans and Nigerians cannot unite like the East and West Germany as they have NOTHING in common. The differences are like day and night. You should know...unless you are one of those hired murderers from Chad and Niger.
Please scroll up and read what i said about East and West Germans. Better yet, check out a book about Germany. You'll find it quite educational.
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"if I know how this will be done without bringing bloodbath, then I might join the see you later wagon." --- bababoyz.
This should be a lesson to all the "Igbo moderates." All the Nigerians who "love you" will love you as long as you NEVER think of leaving the country. Once you entertain such thought, all of you will be murdered in a bloodbath. They will murder all of you because, according to bababoyz, they do not "know how this will be done without bringing bloodbath."
Now you "moderate Igbos:" Tell me. Is that why you are still waving the Nigerian flag? You are afraid to be murdered in bababoyz bloodbath if you dare to think of leaving Nigeria?
Bababoyz commentary is a lesson in cowardice. In effect don't seek freedom least master hangs you.The same Bababoyz lives and enjoys the fruit of freedom in America were Africans like him were hung for simply seeking freedom.This is a classical house slave mentallity, to him the fear of blood bath should keep Nigeria one.
They were men like Pharoah King of Egypt, who like Bababoyz could not imagine the continuation of his Kingdom following the exit of his slaves.But exit did the Hebrews and the rest is history, so shall it be with Nigeria and Biafra.Like Pharoah, Bababoyz will learn to adjust to life after the exit of Biafrans from Nigeria.
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Ugali, Here's an excerpt from one of your northern elites attesting to the day and night difference between the Biafrans and the Nigerian Northerners.
------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. M. Danlami wrote (The Miscalculation of the Ohaneze on NYSC: Lets Abolish it Altogether):
"We also did not like the idea of having people who understood little to nothing about our values, religions, cultures, and languages being sent here as teachers, doctors, architects, planners, and key decision makers across the length and breath of our polity. We considered people that were culturally and linguistically distinct from us as isolates. It was not hard to see that those of us from northern north differed from the southerners in forms and habits. We ate grains they ate tubers. We lived in the Savannah, they lived in the forest. Our men wore babban riga, their men wore rappers or shirts. We thought unification, they thought succession. We were tall and thin, they were short and stout. We spoke softly, they spoke harshly. We even seemed to worship separate but same God, as our individual and collective pathways to the Almighty were conceivably quite different."
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