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The following article indicates a replica of the past is in the making. It is still getting close.
Decamping May Terminate 4th Republic - APP Chieftain.
This Day (Lagos)
May 11, 2001 Posted to the web May 11, 2001
From Chuks Akunna
The recent decamping of four Alliance for Democracy (AD) federal legislators into the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) is capable of setting in motion the beginning of the end for Nigeria's democratic experiment, a chieftain of the rival All Peoples Party (APP), Chief Dan Orbih has cautioned.
Reacting to the development in a telephone interview yesterday with THISDAY, Orbih who condemned the decision of the legislators to dump their party, regretted that politicians in the country have failed to learn from the mistakes of the past.
Recalling that it was a similar development that snow-balled into the abortion of the First Republic, the APP chieftain maintained that by their actions the senators and House member concerned are not fit to be addressed anymore as 'distinguished' or 'honourable' as their actions have portrayed them as being in the mould of bread and butter politicians.
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You cann't build on quick sand and if they carry on the way they are going, then even their 100th republic will still collapse. The thing is unworkable, but some people have chosen to turn a blind eye because the status quo guarantees them a heckuva lotta $$$$$.
My personal concern is that those "JIM-will-fix-it" among Ndi-Igbo will make themselves available to scuttle the long over due disintegration. God help them all.
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Just because politicians change party does not mean that democary or civilizaton will come to an end. Even here in the oldest democracy, a Geogia Senator (Zell Miller) has been nursing the idea of switching political alliance to the ruling party. He has been voting with them and is just a Democrat in name only. Most of the current crop of Southern conservative congressmen were democrats just a few years ago. My Governor use to be a democrat and only changed party for reasons best known to him.
___________________ Feel me? Ofu onye ana asi unu abia go. - Ednut Igbo-American . www.airamericaradio.com visit her. Posts: 2450 | From: Mother Earth | Registered: Mar 2001
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Don't forget also that our own senator Phil Gram used to be a democrat.
Changing parties does not mean eminent collapse. There are other indications pointing to the collapse of Nigeria. Politicians changing parties is a very minor issue. No one really knows what the underlying philosophy of each party is anyway.
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Eeeeehhhh ! You guys are comparing the strongest governmental structure in the world so far with Nigeria that is still sruggling to have a system in place. The efect of carpet crossing in the west and its ripples still live with us today. Even the buying over of PDP politicians by IBB to plant OO in is still affecting decisions today. The Nigerian political framework is too fragile. No one knows what will drag the beehive on the peoples' heads until it happens.
___________________ Chukwu gozie Nd'Igbo nile. Posts: 124 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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My point exactly. The list is long. Where do you start. Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr., e.t.c, just b/c a few AD and APP legislooters switched parties is not enough to bring our current country down. we should be more worried about these ex-army officers trying to get into politics with stolen Biafran money.
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Nsikan and Ednut: I am amazed how you guys missed the point totally, making wrong analogies. What Dan Orbih "cautioned" was that, the re-emergence of cross-carpeting was a resemblance to what destroyed the First Republic.
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I understood the point quite well. It is indeed the problems we had in the west in the 1960's. However, my point and perhaps Ednuts' point is that in the present, carpet crossing alone is a minor issue. There are more important issue that will bring down this present republic than mere carpet crossing.
A political party must have a core set of values, and the voters must vote for the core values rather than voting for whatever it is that the Nigerian voter votes for. If a politician joins a party for its core values, then carpet crossing is not going to be very common. Carpet crossing will only occur when the values of the party changes, or when the core values of the politician changes.
So, you see, the problem that will bring down the republic is not politicians changing parties, rather a lack of values in the body polity.
Fuel: Tell Obasanjo Masses Are Suffering, PDP Govs Urged From Hammed Shittu in Osogbo
As the Council of States meets today in Abuja, 27 governors of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) have been called upon to come out boldly and tell President Olusegun Obasanjo the naked truth about the suffering pervading the country over the recent fuel price hike.
A statement issued by the Osun State Council of Nigeria Union of Journalists (NUJ) signed by its state Chairman, Prince Ayoade Adedayo and Secretary, Alhaji Hammed Bodunrin, and made available to newsmen in Osogbo on Monday, wondered why a responsible government would enjoy controversy so much watching its people suffer without any just cause.
According to them, "if the governors of PDP could summon courage to say it out to Obasanjo, about the suffering of the people, then he may see it as an honest assessment and not unwarranted opposition."
To justify their advice to the President, the governors may wish to know that Nigerians bought fuel for an equivalent of about 8.45kobo between 1966 to 78 till October 1, 1978 when he (Obasanjo) as the military head of state changed it to 15.13kobo an increment of about 74%. This administration has since its inception started increasing, it for one reason or the other. If this continues, whatever achievement you may be able to do at the state level would have been rubbished by inhuman national economic policies.
Adedayo and Bodunrin said "it is sad that a court granted fuel tax of about N1.50k could translate to an increment of between N10 and N15 per litre within few hours."
The Union added that, "the speed which the change took and the percentage of increment is not only scandalous and inhuman but portrays government as a care-free entity that can accommodate anything at the expense of its people's well being."
"Nobody is impressed or interested in the academic explanation of the international price again because when the prince was abysmally low, Nigerians were treated many reasons why they should buy at high price to discourage smugglers," they stressed.
Why wouldn't a clueless visionless DURTY country collapse? The more harm the yoroba thief brings upon the innocents, the more his yoroba folks on BNW cheer him on. Folks, naked truth means the truth is so easy, so banal such that a blind could see it. I thought I let the naive who might be wondering how truth could physically be naked know. It's a simile, a figure of speech. Now you know!
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Our neighbors in the west would if you allow them like us to believe they are not the source of all the woes of that country but evidence abound to the contrary.
quote:Illegal Bunkering: Agunloye Implicated in MT Jimoh's Release
Former Minister of State for Navy, Dr. Olu Agunloye, was yesterday implicated in the release of M.T. Jimoh, a bunkering vessel caught stealing crude oil from the country.
Agunloye's involvement, which was revealed at yesterday's session of the public hearing of the House of Representatives Committee on Navy probing the circumstances in which M.T. African Pride disappeared while in detention in Nigerian waters, was consequently summoned to appear before the Committee. Visit Illegal Bunkering:
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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I am just as shocked as you are, all this while we have been hearing of how Asari and co. are criminals stealing oil when in fact some connected Yorubas are behind the bunkering business. No wonder a whole big tanker could just vanish into the thin air, the naval chief, police chief, SSS chief and of course the King of Aso rock are all probably behind the fleecing of Niger Delta oil.
How many times will this police chief be mentioned in one shake down or the other ? This is one heck of an amala republic.
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If the use of "shocked" is to express how upset you (we) are over the daylight robbery of the resources from the Eastern Region, then I too am. Am I surprised? No way!! It's not beneath them to do such. In fact did any of the yoroba commentators in here say a word? But would be a free-for-all hard that name been Igbo. The guys are unbelievably ethnicized and I say this in the most sincerest and civil kind of way.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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I am not sure why this comes as a surprise to you guys. You guys are forgeting the chief bunkerer himself currently residing in ASO rock. Remember the first thing Obasanjo did was the scrap the oil Minister portfolio and said that post will reside with the Presidency, few months after that, his wives and children were selling oil licensing. So for me I am not surprise, because daylight robbery has been Obasanjo's #1 accomplishment.
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I am equally surprised no one has mentioned Dick Cheney's Halliburton scandals and the oil fields in Nigeria. Who is really running this illegal global oil trade and who are the masterminds of bunkering? The fact of the matter is until the root cause (U.S.) is identified and stopped from its domination of trade in the so-called free market, bunkering remains legit.
___________________ The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government Posts: 217 | From: Ogallala, Nebraska, USA | Registered: May 2003
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Can we get Odua citizens on this board or anywhere to clearly state here and demand that olusegun obasanjo set up an investigation to get to the bottom of the missing oil tanker carrying stolen crude oil from Biafra.
This is another opportunity for yoroba nation to distance itself from the stealing and bribing olusegun obassanjo and his fraudulent, incompetent misrule.
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quote:Can we get Odua citizens on this board or anywhere to clearly state here and demand that olusegun obasanjo set up an investigation to get to the bottom of the missing oil tanker carrying stolen crude oil from Biafra
You are gonna wait forever.
___________________ This war of attrition on the Igbo must end now! Posts: 441 | From: california, US | Registered: Jan 2003
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Here is the answer from the kingpin of odua himself.
quote:You are gonna wait forever.
Very intelligent, eh? From the same folks that act as if they are objective and honest? Plurze!
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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