Primero, Que el Senor todopoderoso los bendiga usted y la familia, tambien.
Segundo, soy un hombre con mis bolas intactos! Entoces, piensas que Mandy podria darme un poco del que usted esta disfrutando?
Por favor, no hagas ningun traduccion por ella para que no me mata! Ella me parace como una peleona peligrosisima. Biafra, mi tiera necesita millones de ella y usted tambien, en serio.
Why are you and Ednut picking on me? It was Anu Nti that started it all. Please ask him nicely and he might translate his own stuff for you.
As for Da Ikpatt(obong-Owo), he should be able to use his "space connections" and translate straight from Espanol to Efik/Ibibio.
On the bribery bit; what would you like to part with-2-me?(sic)
G2G b/4 this thread turns 2 another LNT(LOL)
Cheers and have a terrific wknd!
OU
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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For your info, the APN is still very alive and digging very deep roots. You'll get to hear more soonest as a lot of 'real' Nigerians are joining. The "A" is not for Abacha.
Current Space Project may just become a "schoolmaster" in place for the most realistic and practicable technology policy Nigerians have ever been presented with.
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Ikpatt: You sound very much like one who is talking about a revolution. So, where does that leave us as of now when in your own view Obasanjo could not be wrong? Does it mean you have abandoned your principles of a one Nigeria on behalf of Obasanjo to suddenly take back your pledge in the name of a one Nigeria?
Seemingly, you are getting confused and have no idea what you really stand for. It is amazing and ridiculous.
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OU, You chose not to grant me my indulgence in alliance with Anu Nti, huh? Guess what? I got a translation of all your exchanges. However, I still nurse a righteous sulk against you.
What I would part with 2U? I'm not telling...
Anu Nti, You managed to convince OU not to part with your espanol exchanges, huh. I'm afraid of you now. But I've always known that you're a man. All the same, I feel flattered. Thanks.
Komnichiwa! I know you won't go to sleep until you found the meanings and I'm glad I'd refrained from heavy boyz natter(lol). Curiousity that killed the cat huh? Now that you have an easy source for decoding Espanol, I guess I'll have to switch over to good ole Japanese hence my salutation. But I think Espanol or Italiano is cool for that sort of thing(wink & blush) Sayanora ni!
Eby nwa,
Don't worry. Nothing serious, just three of us having a good laugh at each other's expense. How is Lagos treating you mi hermano(Spanish for my brother)? Dios te bendiga(God bless you). Adios amigo!
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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Ikpatt, I've stopped wondering why you pretend to believe in this false entity called Nigeria. Two culprit scenarios come to mind. You have a family member employed by Obasanjo's regime…eh, govt; and/or you have no one on the ground (BiafraNigeria) who could give you an objective assessment of the reality of things over there. I believe your disillusion about one Nigeria is a combination of all the above.
In order to grasp the deadly seriousness of the situation in Nigeria and the expectant explosion in 2003, you need to have a heart2heart talk with your OPC buddy, Aluko. Ufan mi, the time when the Biafrans "siddon look" has passed. They cannot afford that luxury anymore. Nigeria as we know it comes to an end in 2003. Don't say you weren't told.
As it is right now, Obasanjo knows with surety that his tenure will come to an end in two years. The Oduduwas also know that Obasanjo is the last Oduduwa president of Nigeria (as we know it). IBB has been endorsed by Arewa to assume the rulership in 2003.This is a given surety. You think the regurgitation of islamic sharia and the training of "sharia police" is a mere coincidence? For your people's sake, I hope you don't. Right now, the north and west of Nigeria has been overflown with assortment of armed arsenals. What do you think they imported them for? For target shooting practice? You wonder who the targets are? I hope you guessed right.
Now, this brings us to Obasanjo's space technology scheme. Armed with the factual reality of no second term presidency and the open hostility from his northern "king makers", Obasanjo realized that he has to prop up himself and his Oduduwa people. Is it a coincidence that Ige stashed away N2.5 billion (Note that this money was taken in dollars, not in worthless naira). Those Oduduwa "leaders" making feeble noise, and stage-managed it to appear as if they are fighting corruption. We know they are not. They all know what the deal is. Whatever happened to the "recovered loot from Abacha's accounts"? With impunity, he doled some oil wells to his wife. Now he is embarking on millions of raw dollar cash worth of space technology knowing that in two years, his presidency will be over and anarchy will spill over. You think that when the citizens are scrambling for cover to safeguard the very air they breathe that they have time to inquire about Obasanjo's 419-space technology scheme? Obasanjo realized that the only comfortable and safe abode for him is his Ota farm in Oduduwa land. As such, he has proceeded to make amends and reparations in appeasement to his people…transparency and anti-corruption rhetoric be damned.
Oduduwa knows that in 2003, the north will visit their jihardic war on them and the Biafrans. They are therefore closing ranks among themselves at the conclusion that their tribal/ethnic survival/freedom is paramount to religion. Is OPC not in the govt payrolls and a recognized crime-fighting officials in Oduduwa land? Is Mr Adams "wanted" any more? There are lots of other illustrations, but you should get the drift by now.
Need I broach the Arewa's case? What do you think happened to the northern "Generals" that Obasanjo unilaterally dismissed? You think they are languishing away in sorrow at some desert corner up there? You think sharia will fizzle away or they'd be content practicing it among themselves in the north? You think the Kaduna massacre was a spontaneous coincidence? What about arms? You believe the north is holding the legally imported military arsenals of Nigeria "in trust" for you and in defense of some "foreign enemy"? Yeah, foreign enemy. Just look into the mirror…yes, you're staring at the foreign enemy!
I hope you've seen the foolishness of believing in a phantom space technology ingenuity of Obasanjo. It's time to tell that family member of yours in Obasanjo's regime to start making an alternative arrangement. For your sake (even though you're a pain in the ribs, I'm concerned for you), I hope your uncle has used his position as a cabinet member of the Nigerian govt to do some tangible and helpful infrastructural improvements for your people. If not, he shouldn't dream of moving back to Ibibio/Efik land after his tenureship. The Biafra masses that will welcome him will not be the kind that he left behind in 1999.
The cold fact is that Nigeria has disintegrated into three countries. The Arewa republic will not let every region go peacefully. They want a blood bath as they are the biggest losers from this disintegration. Therefore, that the country of Nigeria is over (come 2003), is not in doubt. What remains right now is: How are each person and region preparing for this break up and its aftermath/fall-outs? What are its effects on the ostrich sand castle builders who ignorantly refused to acknowledge its reality? Perhaps, they will be unavoidable "collateral damage".
At you request, you're cordially invited to another section TBA.
BTW, you'll struggle to best me in Danish as my company has a base in Denmark and i interact with them a lot. Yet, I'll put the Japanese on hold and carry on at the other LNT in Engl-Igbo. Can we K*** and make up?
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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I used to think that Ikpatt had a point to make. In fact I always thought that Ikpatt did not know how to speak the English Language. But, I felt that he was burning with desire to associate himself with people that wanted a united Nigeria. The separatist OPC professor, Mobolaji Aluko, is one of the people that have fooled Ikpatt into thinking that he, the OPC professor (Mobolaji) believes in One-Nigeria. Ikpatt is a stupid fool since he fell for that crap.
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Would be laughable (for the tomfoolery) except for the certainty that when the chips are down, we would be no nearer to space than we were in 1960 and Olusegun Obasanjo would have joined the elite ranks of the ten richest men in the world (along with his mentor Ibrahim Babangida).
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Here goes the BiafraNigerian Rocket - the GMG (Ghana Must Go). The rocket took off from BiafraNigeria's ultra-modern space center in Abuja and will land in Aremu's foreign bank account sometime in the very near future. Stay tuned. LOL.
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A little education, culled from another site, helps to enlighten the mind. The internet is saturated with a lot more that can work the brain - read to understand before engaging the mouth without brakes:
QUOTE --------------------------------------------- As I once wrote earlier, I know a little more about this Space programme than I have let on, because I have a friend who is intimately involved in it (he is been serving as an adviser), and rather than thinking that the money is TOO MUCH, he is teed off that the money allocated is TOO SMALL to do ANYTHING.
Anyway, as originally envisaged, the space program is not meant to send anybody to the Sun or even to the Moon via WAZOBIA I, but is rather supposed to concentrate on two main things:
(1) satellite technology education: training of mid-level and university-level students in the science and technology of satellite design and manufacture, with the aim of launching a Nigeria-made satellite within 5 to 10 years. After all, some universities have launched a satellite through student design in the US!
(2) more importantly: commercial remote sensing (CRS). According to my friend:
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"CRS industry is a rapidly growing GLOBAL ( Except in Nigeria) industry with both aeronautical and space-based components. The CRS industry - largely a DECISION SYSTEMS industry - serves a broad spectrum of the economy.
CRS industry activities range from planning and developing new remote sensing systems to applying remote sensing information to customers' real-world problems as summarized below:
MARKETS SECTORS APPLICATIONS
1. Commodities - Agriculture and Forestry: Chemical treatments and harvest forecasts
2. Urban Development - Land Use Policy and Zoning, Flood control, Emergency Route Planning, Real Estate Dev. and Sales
3. Transportation - Roads, Airports, and Marine Systems: Planning, Siting and routing
4. Energy - Pipeline Routing and Monitoring, Minerals Exploration, Offshore Platform Management
5. Information - Mapping, News, Emergency Management
From its infancy in 1985, the CRS market grew to $1 billion in 1993 and doubled to $2 billion in 1996. Development of new technologies will spur growth to $10- $20 billion by 2005. "
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Personally, I believe some of the Remote Sensing uses listed above are important, and while we could argue that we could contract the remote sensing out to some other people - some foreign companies or nations, or even a Nigerian-based commercial entity - there is great technological spin-off value in having Nigerians participate in satellite education, development and deployment (eg via rocketry if you wish). It is doable if we cut our coats according to our size.
And if we don't chop the money! I think it is the lack of trust that is causing some of us to vent over this Space business.
The other problem is that too many offices are handling the one issue, resulting in some turf battles. --------------------------------------------- END QUOTE.
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Ikpatt: Please tell us why you are so up for this Ghana-Must-Go rocket. That rubbish post by Aluko has zero technical content. It may sell to the technologically illiterate mob at that forum where you culled it from. But, remember we Biafrans have been building rockets since the 1960s. We are not impressed by the OPC professor and his support for the Ghana-Must-Go rocket.
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You know I won't join those that call you names. But this is the response Bolaji Aluko received after the c**p you just reproduced here. If you carry on like this(saying ppl talk without brake), I may be forced to call you "unam ikot". A word is enough!
~~~~~~~ If the govt mentioned going to MARS, then I would have said that they are even more crazy than I thought and are beyond redemption. But thankfully, your post indicates that their lunacy is measurable.
They want to train "mid-level" and University students in satellite design and manufacture? Good. Do Nigerian Univerisities teach Chemistry 101 or Physics 101 at an acceptable standard? How many Computers are available to teach basic C language programming? In what condition are the Electrical and Electronics departments of Nigerian schools? Do they have BASIC EQUIPMENT THAT ARE FUNCTIONAL? Even in the Computer Science departments of Nigerian Univeristies, how much internet connectivity is available? Here is a link to OAU, Ife one of the "best"(If you can use that word) schools that we have in Nigeria. Anybody going through the site and comparing to any AVERAGE University overseas will realize immediately that Nigerian schools are almost impossibly lacking in resources for even the most basic needs. Yet we want to build space program on top of the crumbled school edifices. Na wah.
Are we going to get a small elite of satellite engineers that that have no institutional or infrastructure support in the country? Which company will build the solar panels? The Rocket boosters? The launch pad? Can they count on the Nigerian Survey organizations to chart the exact location of any point in Nigeria relative to the position in space they want the satellites to be? By the way where would these Space engineers be trained? Inside or Outside Nigeria? If outside how much would you have to pay them for them to return? Or if inside how much for them to stay if they are qualified to an international level? (These people will naturally obey the laws of economics as the vast majority of those Nigreian academics that are qualified have already done, leaving sometimes half-wits who recommend outlandish schemes). Are the numbers of satellites launched going to garantee them to remain busy? And at the same time make economic sense. How about on-going research to keep them at the cutting edge? Questions, questions. Even if the money is not "chopped" the government/country does not have the necessary pyramid of conditions and competence that would place a space program at the comfortable apex. FG cannot even sustain their JV or wholly owned car, steel, aluminum, petrol, petrochemical...ad infinitum factories. Now they want to go into business of making satellites.
Commercial Remote Sensing Sounds to me like those set of big words that dem dey use to get the signature from a buffudled head of state. The whole thing reads like a commercial business plan. Why does this man not resign from the governement, launch a business and get venture capitalists to back him up? If the pictures are so rosy, the VCs will be salivating all over themselves, and there are quite a number of them setting up shop in Nigeria now. But instead, we go to the ultimate father christmas. They always do that when they won't put their money where their mouths are. In any case you could make the same arguement about CRS for almost any business -internet, telecoms, anything! Is the government then to be called upon to start funding all these?! Just imagine, some beauracrat/academic sitting down somewhere dreaming about a business in which there may be some payoff, and it is tax payers money that must be called to fund this? Why, for heaven's sake. Do we ever LEARN!!!
What are the 1001 things that are involved in CRS delivery that the government or the Nigerian environemnt does not currently provide? And what are the contingencies for getting them. Are the different market segments homogenous? What complimentary skills are required for delivery of the information to customers? For example are Nigerian farmers generally good at using handheld computers? Or reading diagrams and plans (we always hear of how the vast majority of Nigerian farming population is rural and this is where illitreacy is concentrated). Is there a robust telecommunciation infrastructure on the gound to allow delivery of data gathered? How about all the experts/training in the different market segments required to interpret satellite images, urban planners? geologists? etc etc. Are we going specially chose a few to train in satellite image reading or would it not be sane if that type of method were already an integral part of what these professionals use in Nigeria today? In fact are many of these professions functioning in Nigeria today? Or are the practioners in these areas (if any) mere paper pushers. Is there a profitable level of demand in Nigeria? In which segments? We know the market is so many billions in the world but what of in Nigeria? The whole economy is valued at $40 billion GDP a year. How much of that will go to CRS demand? What is the "great technology spin off value"? Is it greater than the value of simply educating all the students currently in Nigerian Univeristies well?
A million and four questions fitted for private, risk capital, the total absence of which demonstrates quite clearly that there are many, many things that are needed in place in Nigeria before something like CRS would work. Appearantly, we don't even know that techologies are complimentary in the world. Na wah. I keep having to revise upward the distance Nigeria has to go, daily.
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___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos
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Ikpatt, I do not need your silly lecture over this deceit called space programme, by your master OO/co. Take a trip home, you will have a first hand info. of how devastated your people and Nigeria are. This so called space project is a mis- placed priority, and a ploy to siphon money. you understand ? do you understand?
---------------------------------------- Unfortunately for the citizens of Nigeria, no Nigerian leader since independence, has made any decision that has benefited the citizens. Yet Nigerians live in denail of this reality.
That's the Biafran spirit: being one's brother's keeper. How else can one characterize this tutoring given to Ete Ikpatt by Hermano OU?
Put in a more mundane sense that may make more meaning to Ikpatt. You have drink tea first before aspiring to drink "overtea" (if you call am Ovaltine, na you sabi).
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
However, I still nurse a righteous sulk against you. 
(Ghana Must Go). The rocket took off from BiafraNigeria's ultra-modern space center in Abuja and will land in Aremu's foreign bank account sometime in the very near future. Stay tuned. LOL. 
