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Ifeanyi Chukwukere Obigbo
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For nearly nine months, much has been clamored about the Atlanta Conference in itiated by Big Steve, who had reasoned the significance of a convention tailored to address the fragile issues of the Nigerian state. That suggestion brought along with it a long haul of characters; some for and some against.

But if the Atlanta Conference should hold, and as perceived to be a picnic which would pose no problem--realizing the status quo--that it is going to be a recreational engagement, or perhaps a joint of early morning coffee.

But one thing lacking in this conference is, have the organizers of this conference considered that a whole lot is at stake? Take for instance, the Igbo participants constructively engaged in this conference have no clue what they are really doing when Igbos are being continuously persecuted and singled out from place to place, and from city to city.

So if the makers of this conference, as in Big Steve and Joe Onyeocha are really engaged to perform this task of a one Nigeria, what then do they have to say when Uwazuruike's MASSOB is being sought by Obasanjo's gestapo, while Ganiyu Adams deadly OPC can get away; even though it is well known that Adams is the most wanted man in the nation?

So what is this conference all about? Is the conference being held to addrress the injustices perpetrated on the Igbos? Or is this conference held for the censorship at Nigeriaworld to which nobody could come forth, addressing the ills of a controlled freaked message board? And what was done about it? Precisely, any Igbo who attends this conference is a clear out saboteur.

You all know who you are; and, until you realize the damages you've caused to your own people for a dime, then you would realize where you came from, and it would not be frightening anymore to understand where you were coming from.

It means Obasanjo's inept corrupt regime is normal, and you support his gruesome acts toward the Igbo people.

It means you are going to Atlanta to discuss Nigeria when Uwazuruike is being remanded in custody just for being Igbo. It means all is well with Nigeria when Igbo traders are being harassed and intimidated daily just for their hard work. It means you are going to Atlanta to dine and wine with your enemy who has killed your own people and wants you dead. It means you support genocide. And, finally, it means nothing is absolutely wrong and you don't really care.

But make no mistake about it.

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: Ifeanyi Chukwukere Obigbo ]

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Of EgbeOmoOduduwa and EgbeOmoEfulefu 2001

The best name for the Atlanta Owambe is EgbeOmoOduduwa and EgbeOmoEfulefu 2001. EgbeOmoEfulefu refers to the efulefus of Igbo and Minority stock of Biafra and the purported Middle-Belt. Any Igbo who attends the IgboHaters and IgboEfulefu gathering in Atlanta should know that Ekwe Nche and Bakkassi are watching. Agaracha must come back. You may sneak to Atlanta, but you'd better not brag about it to the detriment of Ndi Igbo. You are going to Atlanta to wine and dine with swines of the ofe nmanu stock who hate your people. While Uwazuruike remains kidnapped by Yoruba and Hausa tribesmen, you have nothing about that on your Owambe agenda. You want to be more Nigerian than Nigeria itself. Have you all noticed that one of the "preludes" to Atlanta is that EgbeOmoOduduwa.com is now completely a Yoruba board?

Anyway, I learned from a reliable source that only a handful of people paid the initial $100 that the chop-chop finance committee requested from each suspected attendee. Most of the attendees will be those disillusioned Igbo renegades who live in Atlanta and props from EgbeOmoOduduwa.com, including story manufacturing "journalists," like Laolu Akande and (rather sadly) Rudolf Okonkwo, the Igbo efulefu, who cannot say NO to his master Chuck Odili. Onyeocha and Le Figaro are torn to pieces. They are committed to the Atlanta wayo, but their hearts are in Biafra.

The main reason for the low turnout is lack of confidence and loss of trust. Steve Nwabuzor, betrayed his fellow Igbos and sold his soul to the Yoruba just to gain cheap publicity. As part of the Odudduwa preparation for Atlanta, Aluko and Okunowo set Steve up for a debate he was not prepared for over Awolowo, and they exposed Steve's incompetence. Well, when Aluko, Okunowo, and Akande band against him in Atlanta, or when they start to patronize him like the naïve prude he is, he will know what it means to be a minority even though there are more Igbos in America than members of any other BiafraNigerian ethnic group. Genuine Igbos are staying away from the yeye gathering. But, let the saboteurs know that Ekwe Nche and Bakassi are watching. All the efulefus should read this from Ekenche. The sunshine is on you. Too bad for Steve, Aluko has highjacked his forum and Aluko will use it to perpetrate his version of the SNC fraud and Igbo-hatred.

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Don't worry about Steve Nwabuzor - the traitor. He is nobody. He was not even present when we fought the key battles at EgbeOmoOduduwa.com against ebe, Olatunde-Georges-2-Oti-Tunde-O/Tunde, and the rest of the Igbo haters. After Atlanta, he will realize that he has no place in Igboland and he cannot speak for Ndi Igbo. He is nothing but a congenital saboteur. Aluko will wipe the floor of that gathering with Nwabuzor's saboteur ass.


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M. Ganiyu Adegboye:

You'd better come forward and tell all you know about how the funds for the Atlanta owambe is being handled. You are a member of the finance committee. If you are not publicly disclosing how you are using the funds, then you are just as bad as IBB and Abacha. Even the reprobate IBBs and Abachas of BiafraNigeria are watching how you and your cohorts in the finance committee are abusing the funds. I don't buy it when you say you have been excluded from the dealings. The finance committee chairman, Joe Onyeocha, does not seem to be the type to exclude a member of a committee without due process. There must have been a vote in which you were publicly voted out as a committee member. Were you voted out of the finance committee?


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I don't care if M. Ganiyu Adegboye embezzles all the funds. All I care about is this:

If (Ola)tunde goes to Atlanta, he had better bring his law degree from a US law school and his US law license with him. Otherwise, I will be there to disgrace him. Olatunde is NOT a lawyer. I know that fraudster in person.

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All,

I see no reason why I or anybody else that wants to shouldn't go to Atlanta. I also can't figure out why a person that did not pay for whatever they will be doing there should be asking Ganiyu any questions or implying mismanagement of funds.

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: Ednut ]

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For those who despise Atlanta 2001 and what it stands for, there is an alternative. That same weekend, in New Orleans, the World Igbo Congress will have their convention. I hope you all will make the committment to show up somewhere.

"So remind them my brother what Theodore Roosevelt said. Remind them that “it is not the critics who counts… it is not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled… credit belongs to the man who really was in the arena, his face marred by dirt, sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs to come up short and short again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming. It is the man who actually strives to do deeds, who knows the great enthusiasm and great devotion, who spreads himself on a worthy cause, who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and cruel souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”

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Ednut:
How do you know anyone did not pay for the Atlanta picnic? Did you pay any taxes to Nigeria? Why are you demanding accountability from Obasanjo?

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Onyi,

Yes I paid taxes in nigeria the last time I visited. I paid at the airports, hotels, gas stations, resturants were I dined, when I bought presents, at the beer parlor, when I paid for those plots of land at Trans Ekulu, e.t.c so you see I do have reasons to call OO's administration to order if I believe they are mismanaging my tax money or worse stealing from me.

I do not know if you guys paid, but if you did, why not ask for your money back. Like Dr. Damages said, New Orleans is a better choice that weekend.

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Ednut:
I take it then that you think that BiafraNigerians did the right thing in waiting for Obasanjo to move into Aso Rock before asking him to account for the funds he obtained and spent on his way there. The organizers of the Atlanta picnic have said that it is their ambition to take over BiafraNigeria. They have the word "Leadership" in their self-description." That opens them up to public scrutiny by those whom they expect to lead. It should not matter that the particular person raising the questions did not directly donate money to them or allow himself to be defrauded by them.

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Dr Damages or Rudolf Okonkwo
Please save your lectures I don't know why you always use this board as your notice board while you call your self Nigeriaworld Journalist. You claim to be a reporter for Nigeriaworld, so why not use that egbeomooduduwa.com for posting your notices.

We are busy here working on actualizing Biafra we don't have time for Owambe Nigeria party.

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Biafra:
Take it easy on brother Rudolf, please. I think he made a good point and at the right place, too.

All,
I salute you and happy to join you. A job well done, indeed.


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All,
This is what I told those publicity-seeking cowards in their face at the you know what message board inter alia "...It's never-go-home like you who have lead Nigeria to the abyss it is today and you have the gut to come here to be decieving those you can that you and your attention-seeking bastards are intended on 'changing' Nigeria.
The question a serious person would ask is why 'Atlanta' conference? Why not Lagos, Abuja, Port-Harcourt, Enugu or even Uyo conference? Or are you cowards afraid of Obasanjo's Gestapo security forces which the likes of Chief Ralph Uwazuruike (one of the "myopic" Igbos) the MASSOB leader have to contend with everyday in Nigeria?
As I am writing, Uwazuruike and some of his MASSOB followers who were kinapped by Obasanjo's Gestapo security forces are still under detention and their whereabouts unknown to their families. Their only crime is that they were holding a peaceful meeting in a supposed democracy...COWARDS HAVE NEVER BEEN KNOWN IN HISTORY TO BRING ANY POSITIVE CHANGE..."

Despite their (one Nigerians on the egbeomeoduwa/efulefu.com rantings, which was expected, I think we Igbos (those around Atlanta) should go there (not as participant)and report to us the Igbos who attended that Owanbe party so that we will from thence see them as enemies of the Igbo people. Things have gone so bad in Igboland that we ought not let some ememies within to think we are finding our collective dehuminization as a people anymore funny.

Any Igboman or woman who attends that party (as a participant) should be seen from thence as a BASTARD and a TRAITOR, anything else is sending the wrong message.


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To whom it may concern !

Just to let you know that Biafrans have access to quotable quotes too:

"The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our ways - I to die, and you to live. Which is better God only knows."
~Plato (428 BC - 348 BC), Dialogues, Apology


"Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm."
~Publilius Syrus (~100 BC)

"An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers

"One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important."
~Bertrand Russell

"You see things, and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were, and say "Why not?"
~George Bernard Shaw, "Metamagical Themas" by Douglas Hofstadter

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Rudolf has come again. I told everybody on this board that Rudolf is only after his perceived job as an "Otapipia" journalist after he interviewed Orji Kalu..

I noticed that some notable people on this board did not tell him as it is, obviously that has encouraged him to continue this nonsense.

This latest "On your face" post on this board about this conference by Rudolf is an outright insult! on all well meaning Igbos on this board. It is also an affront to the ideology of this board, which the whole world knows is the actualization of Biafra.

Rudolf are you waiting till Ekwe Nche writes you a personal letter.

Idi kwa eqwu! You are just an American version of the current Biafranigerian politician!

Now Ojoto pls tell me why Rudolf should be left alone? Pls I will like a response if you don't mind Ojoto.

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Well Well.

All you young boys and girls who like to insult people you don’t know, here is what Steve Nwabuzor looks like. Now, let me see one of you have the nerve to insult him. Now that you know he is old enough to be your dad or grandpa. Go ahead, attack him. Children. It looks like he took that picture in 1990 when some of you were not even teenagers.


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Kunle,

I have to say that I will be the last person to disrespect this guy seeing that he is a bit older than I imagined, as long as he respects himself and his Igbo heritage, and as long as he remains Igbo first and nigerian or whatever second. From reading his limited bio from where you got the picture, one comes away with the impresion that he owns a lot more to nigeria than to biafra, and as such one can see why he is a one nigerian in spite of what his people have gone through and are still going through, thnx to the collective jealous and hate of the rest of the nation.

[ July 29, 2001: Message edited by: Ednut ]

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Ooops!

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See me, see trouble!

I say, if you no wan meet with the Nigerians make you go meet your fellow Igbos. Ah! na abomination be that. How I go talk that one?

You just wan sit down for computer dey call everybody moron, efuluefu, kiniko, kiniko. As if to say they go stop being moron because say you call them morons.

If you wan make change, make you begin to get off your butt and go meet them.

Jabotinsky abandoned his literary career to travel all over the world and preach his message for the creation of the state of Israel. He raised money. He gave lectures. He listened to those who said it could not be done. He noted their fears and he answered to them. In Poland, he convinced a rich Jewish man to fund the struggle even when the rich man did not totally identify with his cause. He set out goals. He established strategies. He worked tiredlessly for what he believed. All over Europe he was opposed by Jews who were in favor of assimilation rather than the establishment of a Jewish State. He did no lose his temper. He did not go about calling all Jews morons and idiotic idiots. He spent his time working hard to prove the non-believers wrong.

For me, I no say I be cockroach, I no see how I go dey innocent in the gathering of fowls. All of history, e never happen before. And I know say e no go begin now.

My only concern be say, make no one just sit down for home come dey stare and dey type. Sometimes, e good make we get involved. Make we take it to the street where dey action dey. No be for this www.com

I don talk my own be that. I no say, as soon as I turn my back, the name calling go continue. I go come back come read am.

All the instinct for my body say make I no shake. But Eke Idemili say make I come talk wetin he say make I talk. He say not talking na the fault of the mouth, not hearing na that of the ears.


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Damian:

Where are you? I heard that you are young enough to be Big Steve's fifth son. Let's see how tough you are now.


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Kunle,

I don't know what you've set out to achieve by displaying somebody's photo in this thread. Even if you cloned the hair with the white background or the guy's white shirt, the fact remains that the bloke will get a telling off if he writes c**p. I for one will see to that.

Now you can put that picture in your album and "dobale" or do press-ups before it as often as you please.

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Kunle Respect is reciprocal you can not just come here and call every body yuoung boys. just because you are friends with Steve Nwabueze. Most of us here respect elders but at the same time elders must respect themselves. You don't know me and how old I am or other members of this forum. so for you to coming here to brand people you don't know young boys, makes you guilty of the same crime you are accusing people of committing against Steve.

So kunle take your unsolicited advise back to egbeomoduduwa.com. We don't have time for your nonsense in this forum.

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This is not fair. It looks like Steve is trying to use that picture to intimidate his younger opponents. Na wa oh! This is a new tactic in debating. I liked it better when people were faceless.
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Kunle:

I only deal with issues. It does not matter to me how old or how ugly the person I am debating is. I am sure that concept is alien to your Agbalagba-is-always-right upbringing. I am Igbo. We are different.

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Onyemaechi:
To be honest with you, the finance committee of the Atlanta Conference to which I was a member and supposedly still should be a member is a big hoax. The original members to the committee were Big Steve, Philip Adekunle, Emeka Amanze, Joe Onyeocha and myself. But ever since Amanze tendered his resignation, all correspondences regarding the finance committee were sabotaged and hijacked; evidently by Ebe and his colleagues, thus the hijackers who were employed by Big Steve and Joe Onyeocha denied me access to more informations and update.

However, I was told by a reliable source that, the funds, as I write, were handed over to Ebe toward his continued propaganda in Nigeria. Now that Ebe is in Nigeria, Joe Onyeocha and Big Steve are wholly responsible. They are the ones to answer the questions you posed, not me.

I know COLO is the host but how Ebe came from nowhere to handle financial matters of the conference is now beyond my reasoning, as far as the conference is concerned.

I hope I answered your questions appropriately.

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Kunle:
Displaying Big Steve's picture in Biafraworld is not fair. It is wrong and unacceptable. You should have done that at oduduwa.com.

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I see an intimidating effect of Big Steve's pic on you guys. Good!!!

It goes to underscore that you tone down the language of abuse/disrespect on persons you've never seen or even spoken at length with.

Again, your intimidation from a 1" by 2" portrait tells me you'd scram at a life size. Yet you trumpet war songs from every thread. Boyz and Gelz, integrity and might is not in one's age or physical size - but in quality of discourse that tells all about maturity.

Although some of you are pint sized and write BS always, I still respect in some areas. That is why I don't give back in same token.

Now, give Big Steve all that is due him - he has eloquently come across with what he passionately believes in and does that with admirable consistency. Although some may not agree with him all the time (I certainly do not at all times), give him much respect and credit for his eloquence, consistency and a very keen interest in the overall Nigeria plight.

It is for such virtues that I will go to Atlanta to meet with and network with Nigerians in the US Diaspora who have over the years expressed a true concern for Nigeria (no matter how screwed). And if invited, to the WIC in New Orleans.

Rather than condemn the Atlanta Conference purely out of vindictiveness from perceived mistreatment at the Nigeriaworld.com, challenge yourselves and go there to increase the quality of dialogue over the Nigeria state. That is what some of you did when President Obasanjo visited with Nigerians in Atlanta - you snuck in there with your real/no names and thought you were not seen. But would dare not admit over this messageboard or be labelled a "Sabo".

Last week, I was in Memphis and later in Mississipi - There is no better set I always desire to talk with than Nigerians who passionately express their love in the Nigeria they believe in and in the overall want of a better country. The best foundation for such a country has started on the Internet and how you build it from here determines your peace of mind in years to come.


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I have said this before. When you Southerners want to have your Owambe party where you eat amala and ewedu, don't say you are doing it for Nigeria. Just go and have your party in Atlanta. But, leave Nigeria out of it.

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Ikpatt writes:
"I see an intimidating effect of Big Steve's pic on you guys. Good!!!"

Bollocks Ikpatt, bollocks! I'd said you can use the clone feature in a photo suit and colour the hair grey, if big Steve writes c**p, he'd get a telling off. I'm sure he knows it too.

You further wrote:

>> you trumpet war songs from every thread. Boyz and Gelz, integrity and might is not in one's age or physical size - but in quality of discourse that tells all about maturity.<<

Goodness gracious !! Did you read Biafra, Damian or my entry on this issue. I think it is Kunle and yourself that are fascinated by somebody's portrait. I'm not because I don't know the guy.

And again,

>>Now, give Big Steve all that is due him - he has eloquently come across with what he passionately believes in and does that with admirable consistency.<<


Big Steve like the rest of you hypocrites in that place could be described as anything but consistent. If you go back to the Awolowo thread: he'd started off accusing me of revisionism and damaging Yoru-Igbo bridges, but towards the tail of the thread he really got vile and vicious and expressed his hitherto repressed anger by digging the dirt on Bolaji Aluko-- It was very personal!

And your conclusion:

"....I will go to Atlanta ..... And if invited, to the WIC in New Orleans...Last week, I was in Memphis and later in Mississipi - "

Thanks for sharing your travel itinerary with us. It is just what we need in this board. If you try harder, you'll equal Aremu's record.

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Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos


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