This particular piece has attracted a lot of responses all informative. I shall be posting them here if need be.

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Dear Francis Elekwachi,

I respectfully disagree. Sounds like the "60s America, straight out of Malcom X
speeches
against the civil rights movement. This article is fundamentally flawed and very
unfair to
massob and the principle of non violence.

After more than 200 years of independence, there are still groups, who are
training,
organizing and pursuing to dismember the United States into separate countries.
We call it free speech, freedom to associate and not be condemned for it and
their rights to bear
arms is fully protected in the United States constitution, hence their use of
armored vehicles and automatic rifles. Sure, the uniform services and the
intelligence services keep an eye on them. You quoted a lot of law,
international law, making me to suspect that you are another Igbo lawyer; I
cannot quarrel with you on points of law but why not points of truth.

Francis, remain focus on the rights of massob members to organize, associate
with one
another and exercise their rights of self determination. This is a fundamental
human rights issue. The fact that they are non violent is perhaps their greatest
strength. Reading your article explains why Ndi Igbo are where they are because,
at least from the article, this is the dominant view point. One thing I have
learnt over the years is that if a minority group of people distinguishable by
religion, language, cultural values and geography decides to constitute
themselves into a separate nation. They will be free/win independence if their
demand is consistently, persistent and they are unyielding in their demand.

Question:
Are we consistent, persistent and unyielding in the pursuit of this goal?

My brother the method does not matter. Actually, violence is never the first
option in the struggle for independence that is why Biafra failed the first
time. We
responded to violence by labeling and converting our defensive strategy into an
independence struggle. Civil disobedience is much stronger and effective than
brick and
mortar solutions, which can only lead to the destruction of innocent lives.
Support massob if you agree with them. If you do not agree them, please do Ndi
Igbo a favor; do not use your God given talent to stop them. To stop them is not
your responsibility; it is someone else's. I hope Ndi Igbo who disagree will do
just that.

Thank you,

I have been a regular reader of your articles and I do enjoy most of them.

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TUFIAKWA! An Igbo of the abomination writes!
There were also Jews who knew that the STATE OF ISRAEL would never be a
reality. In the not distant future Igbo will know who spoke the truth.

Here is Francis:

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And that is exactly the point. A bunch of people so blinded by passion,
sentiments and ignorance, leading themselves and the Igbo youth into a
quagmire. There can neither look at issues objectively nor read, hear others
out or even attempt to understand simple caution!

How great an example? How was the State of Israel established? Was it by
Angels falling from haven to liberate their lands? Was it by falsely and
misleadingly deceiving Jews that Israel can and will be established
non-violently? Did those who fought for Israel lead young Jews to their
deaths defenceless? Did they have to lie to their people by hiding the truth
of the sacrifices that must follow their quest for a Jewish homeland?
Did Jews sit like sitting-ducks, imbecilic, for Arabs to shoot and kill them
at will? Did the leaders of the fight for an Israeli homeland establish
Israel by such falsehood which would have been capable of leading the entire
Jewish nation to destruction? Did they not prepare and educate the entire
World-Jewry about the impending war for their homeland? Did they not carry
with them almost every person who was Jewish? Did millions of Jews
world-wide not line up ready and willing to pay the ultimate price for their
homeland, if necessary? Could such mass heroism and patriotism have been
achieved through falsehood, lies and leadership delusion?

Did those who established Israel not carry with them the entire Western
powers that mattered? Did they not secure the international environment for
their cause? Did the fathers of Israel not get the Western powers to do
their biddings one way or the other? Did they not mobilise the funds to
buy/hire the ships, the arms and all the logistics for the landings? Did
they not plan and analyse all options open to them and their consequences,
prior to choosing the most optimal?

Was Biafra at the first instance able to secure the international support,
particularly that of the major powers, which it needed to succeed? What have
you and your bunch of loud mouths done to plug that hole at the moment?

Was Biafra at the first instance able to secure all the arms it needed to
succeed? What have you and your band of deceptive and misleading pretenders
done to plug that whole?

What have you, pig-headed incompetents and opportunists done other than lead
Igbo youths to their untimely deaths and set the Igbo Agenda back several
decades for your own selfish ends?

What do you think you know about Israel and liberations or revolutions
generally?

You speak no truth by seeking to blindly mislead an entire Igbo nation. You
speak no truth by avoiding reality. You speak no truth by recklessness and
irresponsibility. In the end it is very doubtful that you love Igboland more
than any other Igbo.

And for the avoidance of doubt, nothing gives you the right to seek to
destroy Igboland and Ndiigbo by deceit.

By God, declare Biafra, if you are serious, but take the responsibility and
do it properly, other wise shut up!

Man, don't let me invoke the wrath of Amadioha, Njiaba, Urashi, Ikenga and
Chukwu Abiama on you disobedient lot! If you lots persist with your
ignorance and stupidity and defile Igboland, its God and gods, deities and
ancestors by continuing to disobey Igbo Elders - the OHANEZE, you will have
brought the curse on yourselves!

The God, and gods of Igboland and Ndiigbo speaketh through the elders!

Peace be with you, if you wish!

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Brethren:

* * Before I begin, I will like to clear one more time this erroneous
belief by many if not the majority that Mandela did not believe in violence
nor did he advocate violence. This could not be any farther from the truth.

Not only did Mandela believe in the use of violence for the liberation
of his people, (and justifiably so) he advocated it and also practiced it
himself with passion against the Federal Government of South Africa. Bottom
line, "it paid off."

How many of these people who like to cite Mandela as a model of
nonviolence or peaceful movement actually knew that he, Mandela left his law
practice, covertly sneaked into Angola and received many months of military
and guerilla training (warfare) in terrorism and sabotage before he
clandestinely returned to South Africa to put into practical operations what
he had learned.

All along, the Southern African Government were looking for him
because they thought he was still in South Africa hiding out somewhere. Not
knowing that he was in Angola learning how to build bombs.

Mandela was personally responsible for, or directed the bombing of
at least two South African Federal installations before he was apprehended by
the Supreme White Police Force. They suspected he was behind it. A rat in his
organization gave his location away for a reward.

Even when he was in prison, he was continually offered a deal
where he would be released if he denounced the use of force by the ANC. And
every time, he refused to accept the offer and reaffirmed his commitment to
whatever means necessary, including the use of force to secure the liberation
of his people.

This, basically is why he spent so many years, about twenty-seven
in maximum security prison with hard labor.

So, my friends, you see some of us do Mandela a very big
disservice by not honoring him completely. Calling him a nonviolent or
peaceful revolutionary is not a compliment at all. If anything it is a
serious insult to his courage, prowess and cosmic achievements. He was a lion
in every sense of the word. The greatest of all world leaders for many years
to come. He is my lord.

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As I have said many times before, I will say it again. For any
Independent Igbo nation (that the Igbo may wish) to take place, ndi Igbo must
first of all conquer Nigeria. By that I do no not necessarily mean physical
violence per se. It could mean making Nigeria stronger first also.

Ndi Igbo tried that (the war thing) in 1967 - 1970 and it did not work
out to achieve Biafra. But it worked in preserving the Igbo race, and that is
the most important thing of all.

If the need be that ndi Igbo must fight again in the future to either
preserve or achieve an independent homeland, then that is what they must do.
After all, the entire case of human history has revolved and continues to
revolve around VIOLENCE AND PEACE AND VIOLENCE. They both go hand-in-hand at
any given time in human history. No matter that some may want to lull
themselves into believing that the later could be avoided totally. Wrong.

My point? DEMOCRACY! Now that Nigeria is trying to practice it, ndi Igbo
must use it to their advantage. AREWA is using it to the maximum to
strengthen their SHARIA. They are using it to control all political, legal
apparatus and everything else in the North.

Unfortunately, NDI IGBO AND CHRISTIAN NIGERIA just like MASSOB still
have lessons to be learned from their AREWA and MUSLIM counterparts.

Instead of shouting marginalization and oppression every time, taking
prudent and constructive actions - - "VOTES AND LOBBIES" should factor into
the game plan. "VOTES! VOTES! VOTES! VOTES! VOTES! LOBBY! LOBBY! LOBBY!
LOBBY! LOBBY! I cannot say it as many times enough.

MASSOB, as I also suggested before could form a political party and
pursue their Agenda of Secession, DEMOCRATICALLY AND PEACEFULLY in accordance
with applicable laws. French Canada is a prime classical example of this kind
of struggle. I recommend this line of approach first.

At the risk of offending some again. I know that I did before. I will
say this again. "Random killings of ndi Igbo in various parts of Nigeria is
not enough reason for any ndi Igbo to want to reawaken Biafra and rush into a
cocoon-like space.

There has to be more insurmountable barriers that a properly
practiced democracy couldn't handle. As far as I know, the time has not been
taken to find that out yet.

Ndi Igbo have this tendency to run from everywhere. They run from
Kaduna. They run from Lagos. They run from Port Harcourt, their own town and
they run from Calabar their own backyard.

Seriously, all this running has to stop and it has to stop now.
Every onye Igbo must be willing to give his life in order to save it. Any
onye Igbo who is not willing to give his life in order to save it, is a
liability to himself, his family and the Igbo society in general.

Any Nigerian who tells the Onitsha traders, they could not use the
Lagos Port, these traders must summon enough courage to stand firm and fight
for their right. Any Aba merchants who think that they have been
discriminated against at the Port Harcourt Wharf, should use their superior
union numbers and fight it out in court. That is the point of democracy.

* NDI IGBO. PLEASE STOP RUNNING. TOO MANY ROAD ACCIDENTS. THESE
ROAD ACCIDENTS CLAIM THE VERY LIFE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE. GOD BE WITH YOU.
AMEN.

Peace,

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ros Ogu:

Thanks. The biggest indictment to those who say we should stay in
Nigeria is that they are all not in Nigeria.
You cannot live thousands of miles away from the terrible country and
ask those living in it to have patience it will be alright one day. You have
dollar advantage, which the great preponderance of them do not have. And just
because you are making good money and building heaven and earth at home, and
more importantly taking care of your family at home, does not mean everything
is alright with everybody and every family. This dollar advantage is making
monsters out of most of us. It has blinded us into giving us this smug
feeling that everything is fine or will be fine. But everything is not fine
and will not be fine.
I am all for constitutional conference, which is the very first thing to
do. The question is why has it not happened? Must we wait for ever for it? On
ward grounds must the rest of Nigeria allow Hausas to hold it up?
If we will not get the constitutional conference to decide the type of
relationship that the different nations of the monstrous country will have,
then there is no other choice than to separate via the remaining alternative.
Who are Hausas? Please can somebody tell me who Hausas are. This our
caution or fear about what to do with the Hausas is trying to run me crazy.
Just because we lost to America, Britain, USSR, France, and all the rest of
them, when we do not understand imperialism or the demonialcal plan against
us, does not mean we lost to Hausas. Nor does it mean that we are not capable
of thwarting that plan the second time around if that is the fear. We have
amassed a hell of information about what happened, what they are still doing
and what they can do. What we haven't done, is know or believe that we can
put all these things together and know what to do. And what to do is talk
directly to the American public as well as the populace of the rest of the
countries, on TV and Radio, and tell our story. We have also got to get with
the Black Caucus and all other pressure groups.
Two things: We will expose the injustices and genocides against us. We
will impress on them how we have been demanding justice or fairness in non
violence manner for so long. We will let them know that our patience has
grown thin and that we want no other thing now than to have our own country.
We will show them that we are large, capable and viable. That our resources
are being put to good use in other places than our own land. And that we are
prepared to fight to the end to keep our resources.
Many more things to tell them. But most importantly, we have to put them
to task to tell us why America, Britain, France, Japan and the rest, will not
get the oil they need just because Nigeria is divided. We will warn them not
to be deceived by the multinational corporations that our having separate
countries would make them to suffer oil shortages. This is the mother of the
arguments, because this is the fear the various governments (multi national
corporations) have been creating in their people in order to have their way.
Allied to this, of course, is that we must defend our resources, suggesting
to them that they will have to contend with receiving body bags of their
children if they sent them to fight for the multi national corporation in the
name of their various countries.
This is just a loose body of points quickly made here to give us the
kind of things we need to be doing. It will be fine-tuned when the time
comes. So let us get out there and demand our sovereignty. We cannot wait
forever for a national conference. And by all means let us revisit the
vitiated story of the jihad in Nigeria. it was indeed nothing to write home
about. i have it discussed in my book, "Divided We Die." If you knew the true
story, you would see that there is absolutely no reason to fear the Hausas.
All I can say here is that it is worthy of note that the much-vaunted onward
march to the sea, was virtually at a standstill at the periphery of interior
Yorubaland after almost a hundred years of "marching" Makes me want to say,
what a march! It is also important to note that the so-called conquest was
done with more than anything else, the Moslem religion, without which the
conquest would not have happened.

Thanks,

Peace! I am out.

In case you are wondering why I did this, I am just feeling good about myself today that I chose to do the biding of Eke Idemili.

May you all remain blessed.

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THERE CAN BE NO COMPROMISE!
THERE CAN BE NO EXCUSES!
THERE CAN BE NO APOLOGY!
LIES WILL NOT SUFFICE!
THE DEBT CAN NEVER BE REPAID!
THE WORLD MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO FORGET!
THE GUILT OF THE WORLD WILL REMAIN FROM NOW TO ETERNITY.

Ndeewo Mazi E-man,

Thank you for reminding us again about the hell-hole that abomination of a
country nigeria is. We must not forget, for those who forget will surely
continue to relive what they try so hard to forget, the past thirty years
plus of our sojourn in that abomination of a country continue to remind Ndi
Igbo that! Mazi, as you said there is no Igbo family that does not have a
tell of horror to tell about this abomination of a country nigeria, not to
talk about the families that will never be able to speak for themselves
because there are no survivors to speak for them.

I am not a revolutionary or a nationalist, nor does politics interest me. I
am just an ordinary guy, who by the grace of God survived the massacre of
Igbo in Port Harcourt, all I wanted was and is to be left alone to make some
meaning out of my shattered life. Why I was probably the only or handful of
Igbo males who survived that atrocity in PH and will continue to speak for
those our innocent brethren whose lives were cut short by that abomination.

Five years ago my eyes were opened to the folly of standing on the sideline
and doing nothing. I finally joined a handful of our brethren who wanted and
had decided to do something about the great injustice that had befallen a
great people. WE spent hundreds of hours in the library, we researched,
strategize, we looked at all revolutions that had been successful, we asked
ourselves why others had failed, we looked for allies within and outside the
abomination nigeria, we called on our God "AMA AMA AMASI AMASI" to guide our
hands. Finally the fog cleared, for our God had opened our our eyes. Not
only did he direct our hands, he brought people into our lives who have
continued to move Igbo agenda. How else can anyone interpret the 100%
success of our movement, the movement and the journey to NEW BIAFRA based on
Igbo philosophy, culture and tradition!

Igbo has been through one of the most traumatic experiences ever gone
through by any nation. To turn around and tell Igbo again to face the same
experience was an impossibility. There had to be another solution.
Mazi, for the past five years, we have implemented a pilot project that
continues to be hundred percent successful. This pilot project is based on
Igbo philosophy, culture and tradition and most importantly founded on
"EZIOKWU BU NDU"! WE have continued to confound the world and the
abomination nigeria. This project has helped bring the abomination nigeria
to its not too early GRAVE - many thanks to our God "AMA AMA AMASI AMASI",
now we turn our sights inwards, for TRUTH is a double edged sword! Our
journey into the promised land flowing with milk and honey, NEW BIAFRA, that
our God "AMA AMA AMASI AMASI" has promised us will not be complete till we
have faced down unrepentant Igbo who have the blood of our brethren on their
heads, who continue to preach 'one nigeria' or any nigeria to a people that
the abomination of a country nearly exterminated. Yes Mazi, New Biafra is a
gift to us by millions of our innocent dead who paid the ultimate prize, and
their sacrifice must not and will not be in vain, may their soul rest in
peace - ISEEEE! May those who sent them to an early grave never find peace -
ISEEE! May what they planned for Igbo befall them - ISEEE.

Did our brethren die for nothing?
Were our children butchered for nothing?
Were our women, violated, enslaved and killed for nothing?
Were the stomachs of our pregnant mothers and sisters slit open and the
unborn bludgeoned to death for nothing?
Were more than three million of our brothers, sisters, mothers children, and
fathers slowly starved to death for nothing?
Were our properties looted for nothing?
Did our veterans and warriors give their lives and body parts so that Igbo
might live for nothing?

When we hear and see an Igbo, turn around and wrap their arms lovingly
around those that committed these unimaginable atrocities, and even go as
far as to ask Igbo to remain in a union with these unrepentant devils and
war criminals, not only does one want to throw up, one is filled with
disgust and anger. No Mazi, I still can not find the right word for these
people that have lost all decency, their balls and manhood or womanhood. The
most distressing part is that they have teamed up with these VANDALS in the
singled minded pursuit to destroy Igbo. And you ask me to play nice nice and
polite with them? Mazi, Mazi, Mazi, don't you think you are asking too much
of me?

How do you want us to treat those who committed the most heinous of crimes
against their nation?
How do you want us to treat those that have sold Igbo and continue to sell
Igbo to those that committed genocide against Igbo?
What do we do with those that are in bed with those who violated our women?
How do we treat those that are in bed with those that slit the stomachs of
our pregnant mothers and sisters and bludgeoned the unborn to death?
How do we treat those that are in bed with those who turned our sisters and
daughters over to lepers so that the lepers might violate them?
Mazi do you want me to continue?

Mazi, this is not about politics, this is about honor, this is about our
manhood, this is about our survival as a nation. What do you think our
children will think of us? What do you think we will think of our selves?
How can we continue to look ourselves in the mirror? Either you are with
Igbo or you are against Igbo. If you are not with New Biafra, you are
against Igbo. Any Igbo who preaches 'one nigeria' or any nigeria is against
Igbo. There will be no compromise. We are not in this to make friends or
allies with people without balls.

For more than thirty years now these our unrepentant brethren have teamed up
with the Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba feudal masters with the single minded
program to destroy Igbo. They have put to death or caused the deaths of
those that got in their way. They even went as far as introduce FEUDALISM
into Igbo land. For more than thirty years, they declared war on their
brethren, NOW IGBO HAS DECLARED WAR ON THEM! THERE WILL BE NO WHERE TO HIDE!
THOSE WHO HAVE SWORN TO DESTROY OUR COLLECTIVE CHI, THEIR CHI WILL DESTROY -
ISEEEE! iT HAS BEEN SPOKEN AND WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE - ISEEEE!

Emeka.
An unrepentant New Biafran.

From: EOCHIEKE@a...
Subject: Re: [IGBO_FORUM] Whither MASSOB?: A Season For Reason! (EDUCATED
FOOLS!)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:51:08 EDT

Brother Emeka:

I sympathize with your pain. If you really want to know. I was there
as
a child in the middle of the northern massacres of 1966. I relive the trauma
every now and then. Time has not healed all the wounds. My story is not
unique. Three million ndi Igbo have similar stories to tell.

!968 - 1969: Four members of my family perished in the Biafran War. I
am not even talking about countless others from my village.

So, please your education is nice and welcome if for one moment you
would think and make your points without all the name-calling. You probably
don't care anyway but believe me, your style of insults is not winning you
any new allies.

Regarding the great "Zik" Did you know or have you stopped to reflect
that "he was indeed a Northerner?"

So, how many Northerners do you know that did for ndi Igbo (and
Nigeria)
except Ojukwu who was also a Northerner what Zik did for ndi Igbo.

Yeah, I know you'd probably say "TUFIAKWA" which is Okay. One of my
Secondary School Teachers used to go by that name, Tufiakwa, and we called
"Tufia" for short.

Brother. I leave with this quotation from the Holy Bible's Book of
Ecclesiates: "Wisdom is better than the Weapons of War."

My point! "Use your democratic voting power to achieve Biafra for Ndi
Igbo."

Keep up the struggle, and please do cheer up. There is plenty of work
ahead.

Peace: Your Brother In Arms.

Me ke? The original Efuluefu? No be me and you. If na joke make you stop am O! You wan curse me? Wetin I sabi? Fear no go let me.

Who born me?

I no dey O! I dey run comot. If you see me dey run, na sote my heels go dey touch my ears. I no wan insult more people. I never know how I go pay for all them insult wey I do pour for ground here.

Peace! I am out.

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For the avoidance of doubt, MASSOB may assert as much as it likes that it is a non-violent organisation but it also has to face the reality that their political opponents at federal (FGN) and State (Abia and Imo State Governments) levels are determined, and legitimately so, to see, view and prove MASSOB as a violent organisation, if only to destroy it.

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Elekwachi goes on.

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In reality, political violence is not only when an organisation and its members are seen to bear arms or when they riot or cause other disruptions in the community or society. Political violence includes where an organisation or individuals advocate causes which have a real potential to precipitate riots or war.

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I hope that Mr. Elekwachi is not an errand boy for Ohanaeze. He sounds like one. It is fraudulent that the FGN and the Abia and Imo State governments "are determined ... to see, view and prove MASSOB as a violent organisation, if only to destroy it." A lawyer has no business proposing or supporting such fraud.

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Damian

I really think that Rudolf should be given a serious warning on his activities on this board.

The ONLY REASON Rudolf opened up this thread is that the preceding views propagated on this issue is not inline with the current view of actualising Biafra. Rudolf will do anything possible to bring out all that will portray the efforts of our Brethren in the bad light.

I strongly believe that Rudolf has been paid to wage a cyber war on MASSOB!!

Rudolf can't you differentiate between an enclosed forum and an open message board. Did you think any Igbo who is interested in what is happening don't have access to the Forum?? Don't you think that there is a reason why it is a forum not a message board? Why will you go out of your way to bring out this "Particular" debate for the world to see?
Why are working against Ndigbo Rudolf?

this is a quote by Rudolf, in an attempt to Justify going to Atlanta…

Damages

If u are an Igbo man then u must be ashamed of yourself.
How many lives do we have to sacrifice to keep that cursed nation Nigeria one.
Enough is enough and enough should be enough.
As far as I am concerned, I am a Biafran and I have no apologies.
How many properties must we lose before those bastad blood sucking Nigerians see us as equal?
Should we let those bastard Yorubas and Hausas kill us all until we are extinct? I don't think so.
Biafra must be actulaized. There's no way I can feel comfortable calling myself a Nigerian when I know that Nigeria doesn't want me. No Igbo man is safe in Nigeria, North and WEST. The Igbo sabos must be punished for seling their own people those bastards called Nigerians.
I know how my grandfather's properties and his brother's were destroyed in the North during the progron. My grandfather after that never returned to the North after t