Obasanjo's village is on fire O! I'm sure he day kamkpe. Why can't this ppl separate thugery from politics? Why?
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This day
Dateline: 04/08/2001 07:41:14

Osoba Orders Closure of Abeokuta Council over Violence
From Toba Suleiman in Abeokuta

Governor Olusegun Oso-ba of Ogun State has ordered the immediate closure of the Abeokuta South Local Government secretariat in the state capital following the eruption of violence which led to the burning of vehicles and indiscriminate vandalisation of properties of the council.

The trouble which started on Thursday evening was said to have been the culmination of bottled-up anger between supporters of the incumbent chairman of the council, Chief Dare Gbolahan and that of the Commission-er for Youth, Sports and Culture, also a former chairman of the council, Chief Segun Taiwo.

An informed source explained to THISDAY that the two factions clashed within the secretariat complex following the disagreement of Gbolahan's supporters to allow the other faction hold a meeting in the council's multi-purpose hall.

"When this could not be immediately resolved amicably, it resulted first into a heated argument until the whole situation later went out of hands," the source added.

During the period of the hullabaloo, several dangerous weapons were freely used such as cutlasses, broken bottles, stones and sticks which were thrown indiscriminately at one another. At the end of the day, a mercedez Benz v-boot belonging to the chairman, was set ablaze, while the newly commissioned secretariat was equally damaged.

Already, eight persons have been arrested in connection with the crisis. According to the state Commissioner of Police, Prince Udom Ekpoudom, the suspects were apprehended at the spot of the riot by the anti-riot policemen who have since taken charge of the secretariat to forestall further damages.

The police boss who explained that investigation into the immediate and remote causes of the crisis have already commenced, said that more arrest would still be made.

While addressing the press in front of the secretariat yesterday, Governor Osoba who said the closure of the secretariat would be indefinitely expressed regret that such ugly incident was happening in his own local government.

He blamed chairman of the council for his failure to have informed him 24 hours after the incident. He said it was unfortunate that he heard about the matter from the security people what should have been done by the chairman himself.

Osoba who said that he did not believe that under democratic set up, politicians need the presence of policemen to hold a successful meeting, ordered that henceforth, anybody, irrespective of group or faction, can hold meeting anywhere in the state.

But thanks all the same for welcoming me

"The Insults that stem from both of you in terms of Yoruba matters quite frankly is mind boggling , my goodness Biafra and Odili are the Yoruba's that you have dealt with throught your lives that bad that every single issue that affects them have to be dismissed with such hatred
Na wa o.. "

Wale
I have no apologies for what I've said. As far as I am concerned if your people want to repeat another Ile ife Modakeke war they can go ahead and do it for the rest of the year. I'll comfortably sit at home reading the newspapares about the Odua warriors slashing eachothers throats. Expecting me to care will be like beating about the bush looking for something that u'll never find.

I guess your people are getting tired of their killing sprees of Biafrans and Easterners and are now using themselves for their bloodthirsty experiments or I guess sports.

As for us dealing with the Oduas, let me anser u as ODILI, Biafra can answer u as Bifra.

"the Yoruba's that you have dealt with throught your lives that bad that every "

I'll answer this qustions in two different ways.

1st if u mean dealing with your people like the IBB/Abacha era then u must be iviting trouble.
I won't waste my time looking for traitors to deal with but if u give me the chance (please don't) the IBB/Abacha terror will be child's play 'cause ones I move forward with my plans I will not look back. I'll seek proper revenge for the things u put us through as our so called fellow Southerners.
Be careful 'cause even Awolowo will come out of his grave begging for forgiveness.

Tell me do u care about what your people and their allies from the North have been doing to us?
Do u care about what happens to we the Easterners?
Did u ever care about what happened at Odi, Ogoni, Biafra? I'm sure u did not and never will u ' cause I'm sure u are a typical Yoruba man, selffish and opportunistic, deceiving and traitorous.
W all know that your continued stay in Nigeria is the oil that u are milking from our land. Ones tha oil well gets dry u all will increase your call for Odiduwa republic. Must we always be the footmat for the thieves of Nigeria? No.

2nd, if dealng with the Oduas mean just the casual relationship or friendship then I'll tell u that I've dealt with many of u. I only look for relationship with the Wole Soyinka, TOS Benson, or Fajuyi Yoruba man or woman not teh Awolowo. Unfortunately we have more tribalsit Yorubas led by Awolowo than the less tribalist, opprtunistic led by Soyinka,and Fajuyi. What I said is my view and opinion and has nothing to do with hatred for the entire Yoruba race. Do I hate the Obasanjo Yorubas? Yes.
Don't expect us to care after what we went through with u people in Nigeria

Until u hear me say that I hate the Yorubas then u can complain.

In terms of the Civil war and what happened, any rational human being would know it was a tremendous mistake completely regrettable and the atrocities committed and those who inflicted them must be punished, but for you Odili to constantly infer through your posts that all Yoruba’s are condemnable as a result of this is most sincerely disingenuous, for what it is worth, I am terribly sorry for the war and the havoc left behind in its aftermath, I wasn’t born when it started and was just about born when it ended thus on a (collective level) for what it is worth I am sorry, on an individual level to you Odili you are bang out of order in your generalizations , statements such as “ I don’t waste time looking for traitors to deal with” ( per what you have just written every single Yoruba person on this Planet ) is a traitor , every single one is condemnable , every single one must be dealt with in the manner that happened during the civil war and their generations after and after etc, per your statement “but if u give me a chance please don’t the IBB / Abacha terror will be Childs play”.

I am so glad that you Odili, that you do not have the means to embark on only God knows what.
Your next statement “do you care about what happened at Odi, Ogoni and Biafra I am sure you do not and never will cause you are a typical Yoruba man selfish and Opportunistic, deceiving and Traitorous”. I have in the past condemned all these acts Odi was a Major Overkill on the part of the Nigerian Authorities, the people of Ogoni do not under any circumstance deserve the crap that they are being dealt with, and Biafra any sane Human would feel complete sympathy and condemn the barbaric acts that occurred for this to the people of Biafra I am sorry.

To you Odili with regards to the latter part of that statement I am sure you are a typical Yoruba man..... Wow the world according to oracle Odili who knows every thing in every human heart, all you need to know on a personal level is to know the name of a person on the internet and then conclude that he is a typical Yoruba Man selfish, opportunistic deceiving and traitorous, you Odili must be a unique person blessed with this tremendous gift of knowing a person just solely by his name.

Amazing isn’t it that you can distinguish between Colonel Fajuyi, TOS Benson and one other person who says (relax from condemning all Yoruba’s)

To you Odili and you only I have nothing else to say except as evident you are quite the Oracle full of hatred, and as evident this is misdirected hatred, for this I make no apologies, non to you, have a nice life.

As for Wole sosyinka (A man I admire for rejecting Awolowo and his tribalist followers) he has the right to say what he said but he is speaking for the minority Yorubas 'cause the majority deserves every mud thrown on them. Let me say this, I only respect Yoruba leaders that are not praised by the majority Oduas 'cause the less praised are the best friends of the Easterners. The highly praised in Yoruba land will always be the Obsanjos, Awolowos, etec. U know that very well.

All i said to every other Biafran except you(Odili) is that on a collective level to all Biafran's I am sorry for what they went through and are still going through , I do not speak for all Yoruba's thus it simply would not be my place to render an apology on behalf of every one, surely you (Odili) can comprehend that simple statement.

Since my apology was not to you who cares if it does not mean S..T to you (Odili)??.

What did i ever write here or an any other board to deserve that, simply because my name is Wale thus by extension Yoruba which i am thus I deserve any insult which can be rendered, quite amazing this logic.

All i have said pertaining to this thread initially was that the people of Abeokuta although there is fighting going on there do not deserve to be condemned, i then was called the above names by Odili
What would you rather i do ??

If I offended u by the words that I used against u earlier then I'm truly and sincerely sorry about that. I was only speaking against the majority Yorubas who have treated us badly not the minority. Obviously u are among the minority. I HAVEN'T REALLY READ ANY OF YOUR POSTS EXCEPT THIS ONE AND I haven't being in this forum for a long time.
Ofcourse u are Yoruba and may find certain coments unpleasant but u should understand that I am talking about a particular group not the entire Yoruba race.

The Civil war is a very senstive topic. I have had conversations about the Igbo/Yoruba relationship with other Yorubas. I actually had some cinversations about the civil war and what the Yorubas led by Awo did to us with one of Abiola's niece that I know and she knew the group (Awos) that I was talking about. So that didn't cause any problem between us.

You are not an oracle of Tribalism neither am I an oracle of hatred.

I apologise if I had offended you. Hope we can move on.

Thank you very much for reaching the present understanding. It is inevitable where people express themselves freely in a dialogue that blossoms naturally.

That is why BiafraNigeria did not work and that is why Atlanta will not work either. The mechanical coercion and coalition of unity and supression of opinions will never lead to true understanding. If anything, it will leave the self appointed moderators pig-headed and the rest unfulfilled with bottled up sentiments they'd have loved to express.

That is how dictators emerge and once they start, they never really would know where to draw the line, which is why Mr Obasanjo told the Igbos that they are not allowed to hold memorial ceremony for their war dead.

This is the best act of reconciliation and mutual understanding I have seen in any forum. I have often said that until you walk in the other guy’s shoes, it is hard to know where they are coming from. I think Ohafia summarizes most of my thoughts with his earlier post.

Those who preach undue decorum in the face of doom and impending doom are the real enemy.

I have often gotten off handed compliments (at least they thought it was) from White Americans (And I am sure most of you have too) like “oh you are a cool non aggressive ‘BLACK’ guy” “you seem to have a lot of respect…bla bla bla…”. In all these, I have always made them (White Americans) realize in no small measure that had I been raised in America, and forced to go through what the Blacks go through all their lives without an alternative, I would have been worse that the worst African American. No doubt I would have been in jail or worse still on death row, probably for busting someone’s knee cap or better still adding brain tissue décor to the side walk with my .45. Fact is I would have been so annoyed and filled with anger, that any civil interaction with White Americans would have been impossible for me. You see by nature, I am a fan of Malcolm X and not Martin Luther King. The civil rights movement of Dr. King was only embraced as a means of discrediting and isolating the Malcolm X movement. To those who do not know, while MLK has gotten most of the credit for the civil liberties we now enjoy in America, the real hero’s were the Malcolm X’s , The Black Panther Movement, The Nation of Islam and various violent and pro-violent groups.
You see, in life, there is no free lunch. Ever since man lived in caves, no one ever got anything without some muscle and aggression to back it up. Now this muscle could be in any form; Economic, logistic or simply a packed Beretta and a willingness to use it.

Gooosh….What was I saying before I digressed into these entire long story?????

I guess the point I was trying to make earlier was that Had I been born Igbo, and gone through what the Igbo’s have gone through, I would have found it virtually impossible to interact with any Nigerian.(not that I do not have enough reason of my own right now for shunning the elite Northern section of Nigeria)

My one prayer is to be alive to witness the monument that would one day be built for Gideon Orkar and the other Warri boys who saw and died for what some of us still can’t see.(Emancipation from the retarded Hausa/Fulani oligarchy).

Hey! Correction. Ojukwu saw all these 34 years before.

"No doubt I would have been in jail or worse still on death row, probably for busting someone’s knee cap or better still adding brain tissue décor to the side walk with my .45."

That was funny. Made me laugh. But anyway I am also a fan of MALCOM X. Actually my family are. My older brothrs used to carve or write his name on their books or wardropes. I guess from there I read and heard about him and became his fan also.

Martin Luther also did something good but I don't think he was empowering blacks like MALCOM X was doing. He talked more about blacks joining hands with whites and other people (nothing wrong about that. That's the way a society should be.) but to me it's like as if blacks have to beg other races that don't see them as equal to see them as equal. THAT's modern day slavery. As for me if u don't like me because of nationality or race that's your business 'cause I wouldn't care and the person can go to hell 'cause I'll rather look for other people that like me than waste my time staying with someone that oppresses me.

MalcOM X encouraged blacks to be proud of themselves no matter what. He encouraged them
to be proud of their African Heritage, know about their ancestors and to defend thmselves when they are attacked by those murderous racist bastards. I somehow admire more African American muslims than the Christians. They are more conscious of themselves, their heritage, and better behaved than their Christian conterparts.
He wasn't even violent.

Ofcourse the whites wouldn't like that. THEY like to see people begging them to love them. Malcom wasn't that type. If u like him fine, if u don't he's fine with it.
Rev. Jesse Jackson (male whore) irritated me one time that I saw him on TV trying to shake hands with one KKK man and the white guy refused. That was too dumb.

As for Gideon Orkar, I wish the coup was successful. THAT could have helped reduce the power of the gworo eating cattel rearers in that cursed nation Nigeria before it was too late. But unfortunately the nation can never recover from what is happening. It's almost like as if the Northern leaders are better than that moron called Obasanjo the so called Southerner who is no good to the South. He's like a cloned Northerner or tribalist idiot trying to be a northerner more than the real northerners. May the souls of those who laid down their lives to free us from enslavement of the bloodthisty jihardist Northerners rest in peace.

Anyway thanks for own compliments.