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"What I see is that this Sam of a guy is still a peeved little boy who cannot snap out of his deep seated resentment at Biafran soldiers for reducing him to a mere errand boy...." ======AMANDA

Amanda welcome from your long absence. I expected more venom from you. Maybe, you are gathering some reasoning abilities. You must learn tolerance and learn co -opt those who disagree with you. ("You" here is used as a plural)

Anyhow, Amanda you can't be farther from the truth. The fact of the matter is that I did more during the crisis to defend my enclave than some of you loudmouths.

"when all he wanted to do was be like them"==Amanda. That was very true at the time.

Not now! And I tell you why--- Nzeogwu thought of himself as Igbo. He organized to put an end to the sillines of Nigeria. His plans were thwarted, rigged and sabotaged by his fellow Igbos. Can you reasonably explain why no Igbo leader was massacred unless by using the usual "explain away" rhetorics? Why? Probably because Major Nzeogwu was not deemed a real Igbo. They pulled the rug under his feet. That is debauchery.

No wonder the Igbo are the most disorganized bunch to inhabit the geographical location called Nigeria.

Most commentaries on this board point to the lack of negotiating abilities, tact and persuasion. This is not alaba market. Same can be said for most Eastern leaders present and past. They will rather run to the webmaster-- just like they are crying" To your tents O Biafra, we have no inheritance in Nigeria" Maybe that is why the East is going from bad to worse.

Amanda over to you. Don't be angry. Lets reason.

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Sam's Ghetto song!

Yes he ran
He ran from biafra
He ran from nigeria

Nigeria gave him food,
girls and househelps
Biafra gave him misery

His uncle was too young
His father was too old
his father fed soldiers
He carried weapons for soldiers

Listen to what ikpatt has said
The Igbos have been killing each other
Nzeogwu wanted to cleanse Nigeria
The Igbos removed a carpet
Why didn't a lot of Igbos die?

The Igbos lack tact
In Alaba market
They run to the web master
To your tents o Biafra

Amanda don't be angry
let's reason
yeye ppl, una go hear nwiyi
people wey no fit negotiate

[ 10, 2001: Message edited by: Ohafia Udumeze ]

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Amanda, Amanda;
Look here, where on earth do you get these wild rumors from?

You know, Ikebe Super Tabloid will have a formidable competition with this site.

If you guys just sit and spin stories against perceived Igbo haters (whatever that means), I ask you to sell that spin meistership - as Radio guru Okokon Ndem did. Or just start a tabloid magazine and make ego.


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I learnt a long time ago to ignore the born-again Christians whose sole theme is criticizing the Catholics. I'd treat Sam and Ikpatt likewise, please.

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To those who believe that Nigeria is paradise on earth, I wish them that paradise. To those who believe that there could be a better life unattainable within Nigeria, I also wish them what they desire. To those who believe that Biafrans were not the victims but the villains, may they reap the same portion. Amen.


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Sam:
What is your point regarding reasoning? I do not have the desire to put you to task on your persistent bigotry, hatred and patent denial to a soiled state called "Nigeria." You still don't get it.

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C.Ikpatt

The people who ruined Nigeria, whether Igbo, Ibibio, Oron, Efik, Annang, (a minority of them), Hausa, Yoruba,(a majority of them) are the ones who supported ijustice, Saro Wiwa, Abacha, Obasanjo, Awolowo, Gowon, are among those who ruined the country because of the hatred that they had for this tribe or the other.

Ikpatt and Sam

I am happy that people like u in NDelta are now becoming minorities over there.

I wonder what u'll be tellng your little siblings over there.

"Hate the Igbos 'cause they want to kill us"

"They are devils"

"None of their properties in Porthacourt were stolen."

"Actually, they stole those properties so the Saro Wiwas and the good Nigerians decided to to take it back."
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The Igbo Biafrans committed genocide against us."

"We were starved by them not by nigerians."

"Nigeria saved us from those bloodsucking devils called Igbos."

"Nigeria is really good to us, that's why they don't want resource control."

"Nigeria is our friend that's why they are stealing our oil without giving us something back."

"The attack, rape, and massacre of the Ogonis, Odi people was not wrong. It shows how much Nigeria cares for us."

"THE Igbos are oppressing us not the NORTHERNERS."

"There was nothing wrong with the massacre of Igbos, Ibibios, Efiks, Mid-westerners, in the 60s. It showed how loving the Northerners were towards us."

"Ojukwu wanted our oil. He deceived Effiong."

"The Igbos are our problem. THEY ARE the ones preventing us to succeed."

"Avoid the Igbos, they are cannibals and bloodthirsty people."

"Any NDeltan who loves Biafra is a devil. Snatch his properties like Colo and his family's properties were stolen."

"Stealing someone's property makes u a great person."

"Igbos are dominating us."

"U see those shops owned by those Igbos over there, we must steal them when time comes and call it abandoned property."

"Those devils are coming here, making money, buying properties, opening stores and learning our language and culture. How dare those go getters learn our language."

"We shall revolt against them."

"We are not related to the Igbos at all. THEY actually stole our cultures. The are very different."

"THE IGBOS RUINED NIGERIA."

"We can accomplish every single thing without them."

"They are enslaving us."

"We must chase them away from Akwaibom."

"Avoid those sons and daughters of Satan. Hate them. Hate them."

"Nigeria is our friend. Don't mind those liars telling u not to hate our fellow Easterners."

"Those Ibibios, Efiks, Ijaws, Annangs who are friends with Igbos and members of MASSOB should be dealt with."

"If Biafra is ever actualised, we will be finished. They will kill us. They'll steal our land and properties. Don't join MASSOB they are bunch of liars looking for minorities to oppress."

"Nigeria never oppressed us."

"We must increase the numbers of Igbo haters."

"Hating the Igbos will make the Hausas love u."

Sam and Ikpatt

Thank God that people like are minorities in South-South. U'll probably be burned to death over there for trying to sell them to the oppressive gov. of Nigeria.


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Sam,
Do you really think that you merit my anger?
Look, the bottom line here is that the Igbos and the rest of the Biafrans have determined that they need to be apart from Nigeria. Thus, they are doing something significant about it. That significant something is yielding tremendous and mouth-gaping results. As such, Biafra Republic Actualization is being re-visited by the world body of nations as they are currently scrutinizing Nigeria under the microscopic lenses of gross human rights abuses which are over-ripe for the Hague tribunals.

More than ever, the Niger-Deltan grassroots are joining MASSOB on numerously unprecedented level, alongside their Igbo counterparts. They've all realized that MASSOB is that beacon of hope, that anchor in the drowning dead sea called Nigeria, and the crystal fountain of life, freedom, justice, and prosperity.

Therefore, if you, an Igbo hater, is frustrated by the progress the Igbos/Biafrans have made by invoking the unavenged ghost of Biafra, and are poised to lay it to peaceful rest by achieving freedom for Biafra, we understand. Other envious Nigerians are frustrated, too.

However, understand that no amount of jealous venoms from you can stall nor prevent Biafra Republic from being achieved. Your approval, nor participation is hardly needed or solicitated for the actualization of Biafra. You are a Nigerian by choice. Therefore, that decision is your sole cross to bear. There's no correlation whatsoever, between you, your choice, and the Biafrans' need for Biafra Actualization.

So like the rest of the envious Hausa/Fulani/Yoruba groups, you can keep losing sleep worrying yourself to death about the foreseeable greatness of the independent Biafran state, or direct your energy toward re-building your Nigeria. But be it known to you that Biafra Actualization era is here to stay till Biafra Republic is achieved. Obviously, your angst and rantings against Ndigbo are exceedingly irrelevant.

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Ikpatt,
Thanks for your welcome.

What wild rumors are you talking about? I'm beginning to think that your wits must be failing you.

Anyway, we'll be making enviable tons of ego once we actualize Biafra.



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Ikpatt:
So you are quite aware of the "ego" phenomenon? How amazing.

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ICO my brother,

Why do you think da Ikpatt is doing all the propaganda work for aremu if not for "ego" or "okuk"?.

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Ohafia:
True. Clement "Boniface" Ikpatt will never learn. The Saro-Wiwa saga still sounds Greek to him.

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Anu Nti:
I am with you. Isn't it amazing?

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It is on Record that Saro Wiwa was Hanged not by the very Igbos he detested But by the people he fought the Igbos for!.

It on record that the oil which the Delta areas suffer environmental degradation, is pipe hundreds of miles away to a refinery, not in Igboland but in the heart of Hausa Land!.

It is evident that the said oil Revenues are used to develop, not Igboland but The North and West!.

Very, recently, the people who were unshaken in their support for resource control were not your 'Nigerian' friends, but your Igbo enemies!.

Odi, was not erased from the map by your Biafran 'Enemies', but by one of your friends!.

As one eminent Rivers State Politician put it,

'We were told that the Igboman was the cause of out Problems, but the igboman has been supressed yet we are still suffering.'

Guys, wake up and smell the coffee.


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Guys do not duel too much on this topic. This c. ikpatt's of this world constitute less than 1% of the Niger Delta. They are the misguided few who have effectively sold their soul and concience for a few pieces of silver and bread crumbs from their Hausa/Fulani masters.

Suffice to say that the majority of the Niger Deltains including the youths who are in the fore front of the struggle, know the truth.

The c.ikpatt's (in this case his uncle the SGF) like the Bola Ige's , once invited to "come and chop" loose all sense of reasoning and effectivelly mortgage their souls to the devil.


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The Sam’s and Ikpatt's and all other fence sitters,

The greatest irony in this macabre display of xenophobia by the Sam’s and Ikpatt’s of this world is that they are the ones who stand to gain the most from the emancipation crusade. These fellows in the borrowed time and luxury (ignoring all the indignity) of the white man have conveniently forgotten that their siblings are the objects of a thriving human traffic industry in Nigeria, a sad situation that need not be so.

Every household in Aba retains an Nmong or Ogoni house help. Those who traffic in this human cargo ask no questions about the backgrounds of the hosts, the living conditions of their wards etc. All they do is come dutifully at the end of the month to collect the paycheck. I leave you to imagine the plights to which these girls are subjected. In many other countries, these would be Ivy Leaguers just by virtue of the oil royalties. But no, the Ikpatt’s and Sam’s of this world wouldn't see that. They live in the US and pretend not to know that the Texan oilman would die before you pipe his oil to be refined in Arkansas. They pretend not to know that while California could be the sixth largest economy in the World, one could conveniently ignore the likes of Delaware (no pun meant). In the Nigeria of their paradise, oil money is taken from the East to irrigate the northern farmlands, fund religious fundamentalism, fund the concupiscence of an endless list of emirs (that don’t exist in the oildoms) etc while those whose fish ponds and farm lands have been laid waste by the oil prospecting are left to their own devices. Yea, they would forget so long as Uncle so and so is one of the hirelings. Shame.

You see folks, the Igbos are not the ones in need of emancipation. It is you the Sam’s and Ikpatt’s and your ilk whose lot in Nigeria is that of domestic helps and hotel stewards. The Igbos are beyond those. We are denied schools, we build them, airports ditto, same for hospitals, roads, rural electrification, churches, even mosques, etc. We have since forgotten about Nigeria. Ask those who live in Lagos what happened during the “Abiola scares” and the ensuing flight eastwards. The banks in Lagos collapsed while the vaults in the East were bursting. Boy, and these were folks the luckiest amongst who started life with just 30 pounds thirty odd years ago. You see, Nigeria minus Biafra is equal to history. It didn’t have to be so but we are now way beyond asking for recompense. The death knoll has struck. The party is over and it’s about time everyone pushed his own cart.

You see, Sam and Ikpatt, you deserve pity. Slavery is firstly of the mind. You could be the masters of your own fate.


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Wacko:
Where hast thou been? Next time, when you take a sabbatical, let us know. Most of us have been wondering what happened to you. Welcome back, my brother. We miss you.

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Wack Jacko
Welcome back.

Wind and Anu Nti
Thanks for your inteligent posting. Wind u just said it right, these confused Ikpatts and Sams only make up 1%. They all will regret being stupid. THEY CAN be slaves to the Hausa Fulanis if they want. The Saro Wiwas tried it and where are they now. WE MUST free the East 'cause these bastard Nigerians want to destroy the East.

THE Eastern Solidarity is working. Biafra will be actualised. E shouldn't let our enemies divide us anymore.
All enemies of Biafra can find their way back to hell.


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The Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris should stop fighting eachother. They have greater enemies outside the East. They should see all easterners as brothers not as enemies. The bloodsuckers will always try to exploit the diferenecs among the Easterners and we shouldn't let them do that 'cause that will weaken us more.

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Odili:
Have these victims learned any lessons, so far?

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So Sam and ikpatt are the enemies?

Y'all just don't get it, do you?

[ 14, 2001: Message edited by: Sam ]

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Sam,
A saboteur within is more deadly than the saboteur without. Ever heard of this saying before? Well that is what you are. Get it?

You halucinate about showing the Igbos nwinyi. Be very very careful in this envious wishes of yours. You could end up being shown the proper nwinyi.l

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Folks, Ikpatt is a product of race mixing. When you mix your goddamned blood with the Hausas or Yorubas trying to measure up with Biafran ingenuity, what you get is nothing but schizorphrenia. I have advocated the Hausas and Yorubas marry their own race. Now you see what we get from the likes of Ikpatt and company.

Hail Biafra


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Waypoint1biafra,

Pls deal with reality. Ain't U a man? yeye person!

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quote:
Who is the enemy? Biafra or Nigeria?...-sam
Interesting thread!
The enemy is clear at hand. Let us say the answer together three times:

DIRTY NIGERIA, STINKING BIAFRA AND THEIR EUROPEAN CREATORS!
DIRTY NIGERIA, STINKING BIAFRA AND THEIR EUROPEAN CREATORS!
DIRTY NIGERIA, STINKING BIAFRA AND THEIR EUROPEAN CREATORS!

These are the real enemies of the tribes and peoples living in present day Nigeria.

[ June 08, 2005, 02:54 AM: Message edited by: Alchemist ]

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Dis one wey una don dey recycle arugbo thread, man pikin don dey bow o. I hope say de tin wey una dey look for say una go see am sha. Na real wah!

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tijani
what is the meaning of "arugbo"?

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Alchemist:

Arugbo mean say your mama get big nyash. Dat one do?

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Tijani
you're funny.
You're explaining one exotic word with another exotic word.
Let me guess: nyash = tits, mouth, butt, body, eyes, brain, heart (?)

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