According to you, "The truth is that it is extremely difficult to have a reasonable dialogue with Amanda. So, you have to come prepared with a good offer, but you also have to be prepared to engage her in her own style. She is a verbal bomb thrower."
Show me a Michael-style dialogist and I'll show you an insecure chauvinist. Learn to respect, appreciate, and cherish the intelligence, contributions, and expertise of the opposite sex. That way, you'd function in synchronistic harmony with them. Coaxing is ever better than forcing, ever heard of that?
And you proceeded to ask Okwy, "What makes you think Amanda will be with you on D day, if she cannot even organize a party? Before D day, she will come up with an excuse and she will join the enemy to fight you."
I see that you are very determined in your quest to wrestle attention from me today. You see, it is evident that you have no inkling as to who your enemy is. You are impotent to rally your half and step brothers/sisters to the dialog and unity table in order to decipher the enemy and rules of engagement. You are among the elements who, having been blinded by lack of vision and wisdom, stands in the way of the visionaries (especially women) who could bring the D day closer than it seem. For your information, it is the greatest majority of Igbo/Biafran women and children that are the pathetic victims of your un-identified enemy. A narcissist like you are clueless about this, is it not? Learn to weigh your words before uttering them.
___________________ Forward ever, backward never! Posts: 1874 | From: USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Now, where is that Ogba oso 1 of Nnobi, Idemili? Where is his pledge? Orue la na omume. He was the one that sparked this fight. I am glad to see that some people here are prepared to put their money where their mouth is. Where is Rude Okonkwo (apologies to Ohafia)?
If Rudolf matches what his "friend" Michael has pledged, I will volunteer to cook and cater for the get-together. A poor man should not be a chauvinist. $1,850.00 pledged so far, not a dime from our blabber mouth. I am pledging $100.00, which should be refunded if I end up cooking for any poor man amongst you who contributes less than $100.00. Woe unto any of you men, who eats my cooking after contributing less than $100.00
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Sweeten your offer a little. Pledge $1,000.00, and I will immediately start the first steps towards organizing the get-together.
My final condition is that I WILL NOT be the one to collect the money, and I do not want to be involved in the decision about who is going to collect the money. Your pledge and my pledge should be received by the treasurer no later than two weeks from today.
Now, what say you?
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It is easier to destroy than to build. This is your opportunity to show that you can do more than destroy. Running your mouth and bitching about egbeomooduduwa.com is no longer enough. Let us see you plan a successful gathering.
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Let's get the party going. This time around, let's not turn it into an all-Igbo affair. I am pledging $200.00. If Amanda is not interested, she should be left alone.
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In less than just a few hours member of this forum pledged $2,150 ($2,650, if AfricaWest accepts Michael's challenge). Unfortunately, the money came from just a few people.
Sorry, Joy, I will be contributing $50.00 to make it an even $2,700.00 for now. But, if it looks like the party will be successful, I will contribute more.
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It is now clear to me that the only reason that Rudolf Okonkwo participates in this forum is to cause confusion. He thought that people would not take him up on his challenge. Now that he has been shamed, do you see him any where around?
I think that the webmaster should promptly ban Rudolf from this forum. All he is here to do is cause distractions. Amanda is right about Rudolf. Rudolf is a lost and confused soul. Let us not elevate him to something that he is not. He is an unemployed idiot! I am sure that the mention of $500.00 donations has already intimidated him. If he donates $500.00, he will not be able to pay his rent next month.
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It is great that the anniversary party fever is stoking up. I will do the collection of the monies pledged....among other things. If we all mean what we say and say what we mean, then, I will help see to the successful planning and execution of this get-together. Heck, I'll pledge one goat, gourmet (authentic) Igbo soup, fufu, isi ewu, and various other munchies that goes with the festivity.
To all our forumites who have enjoyed the goodness that BiafraNigeria world Forum has wrought, it is incubent upon you to make this upcoming anniversary get-together, a success. I call upon you; Rudolph Okonkwo, Ednut, Ayodele, Bamidele, Idowu, Chike, Nobiora, Odili, Chima Njoku, Yvette, Bature, Adamu, Magudu Theophilus, Ohafia, Anu Nti, Amucha, Kabaka, and the rest of ALL the forumites, too numerous to mention, to contribute financially and otherwise toward this anniversary get-together of ours.
Now, it may be more viable to do this party on a weekend in April or May, pending our collective decision on the menu, venue and time.
___________________ Forward ever, backward never! Posts: 1874 | From: USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I joined the forum some time ago, and since then, I have enjoyed reading many of the posts. I find the topics to be very interesting, and I must congratulate the forum owner and the administrator for the wonderful job they have done.
While the forum is very pro-Biafra, it does my heart good to know that it neither limits nor excludes. My grandfather was Igbo, but I grew up in America and I have only ever visited BiafraNigeria once in my life. At a very fundamental level, this forum enables me to be close to my roots, so to speak. It reminds me that I am more than just an American, and it gives me insight into BiafraNigeria.
Why is all this relevant, you ask?
Well, I have been following this thread since it was so generously re-invigorated by Rudolf Okonkwo on February 21, 2002. I think an anniversary party for the forum is a wonderful idea. Obviously, it will take a lot of work and not just commitment to the project, but commitment to the forum’s objectives, i.e., to “Foster Dialogue and the Free Expression of Ideas.”
Thus, I was about to humbly volunteer my services as Coordinator of the BiafraNigeriaWorld First-Year Anniversary Celebration when I noticed Amanda’s latest post. It was my hope that if things go well, this celebration will be the beginning of a recurrent annual event during which members of the forum can get together, in a non-confrontational manner, of course. This is a celebration, after all. ALL MEMBERS planning to attend should put aside your “weapons” and put on your party hats.
Although Amanda seems amenable to assume the responsibility for the celebration, I think it is unfair to put the majority of the burden on her shoulders. Therefore, I propose that she and I jointly take charge of this celebration and make it happen with panache. What say you all?
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I would love to meet you as well. In fact, I would love to meet a lot of BiafraNigeriaWorld Members. It should prove fairly interesting to match faces to personalities.
Amanda’s suggestion of a weekend in May is definitely doable. That time frame is far enough away such that those planning to attend have sufficient time to make arrangements, and at the same time, it is not too far away from the anniversary such that a celebration would seem stale. If we begin now to discuss the scope of the celebration, we should soon get an accurate estimate of what we’ll need, how many bodies to expect, etc. In terms of travel, obviously we can’t accommodate everyone, so on that issue we’ll just have to choose a location that makes the most sense. (Ednut, H-town?)
As far as cost estimates are concerned, I’m happy that some money has already been pledged. However, I believe that it would be a useful exercise to soon determine just how much this celebration will cost, and then raise money for it on that basis. I do think that everyone who wants to come should contribute money, but this is not a mandatory requirement. It is just appropriate.
So everyone, get ready to pull out your pocket books, raid your bank accounts, and if you have no pocket books and no accounts, I know you put that money in that special hidding place under your mattress. Let’s get this show on the road!
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If you all are serious I will pledge $100 for now. I will also bring others to participate. However I have a special request and that is that on that day, we will be there as Biafrans, fly Biafran flag (I have one beautiful one), talk about Biafra, sing about Biafra and act brotherly and sisterly enough as we plan to be when BIAFRA is actualised. Also we will treat our sisters with respect and our sisters treat us the same in return. I am not making any rules please but some of us are allergic to the "tigbue zogbue" that sometimes rears its ugly head up on this web.
Why does anyone think that the person or one of the persons that originated this idea and then reminded everyone about it will stay away and not attend. There is still time for people to pledge, so no one should be crucified for not pledging yet.
___________________ Chukwu gozie Nd'Igbo nile. Posts: 124 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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Where is the chief Igbo tribalist, Anu Nti? He has seen donations in progress and he has fled into ROM.
I WILL MATCH WHATEVER ANU NTI DONATES.
Emela:
The gathering is for BiafraNigeriaWorld Forum members. Please, it is not an occasion to fly the flag of your defunct Republic. Posts: 180 | Registered: Jul 2001
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Sweeten your offer a little. Pledge $1,000.00, and I will immediately start the first steps towards organizing the get-together.
My final condition is that I WILL NOT be the one to collect the money, and I do not want to be involved in the decision about who is going to collect the money. Your pledge and my pledge should be received by the treasurer no later than two weeks from today.
Now, what say you? "
When you asked Amanda to organise this event, you pledged $500.00. Now, repectfully I ask you to listen; if you felt that $500.00 was sufficient incentive for Amanda to go ahead and organise the event, I think, $500.00 should be sufficient for you to do the same.
Notwithstanding! Renee has suggested a joint effort between herself and Amanda. Here, I see some serious talk and willingness to pull this event off.
I therefore will remove the only condition attached to my $500.00 pledge which was that you organise the event. I am prepared to match your $500.00 whoever ends up organising this event.
What say you, Igbo-man?
___________________ In the Fullness of Time... Posts: 176 | From: UK | Registered: Nov 2001
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Your suggestions are wonderful. I’m looking forward to working with you, Joy, and any other person who have the desire to join us. The month of May is good. However, should we all decide on it, it should not be on the memorial day weekend. Many hotels and party halls are booked up and are unusually expensive during the Memorial Day weekend.
Regarding the venue, naturally I’d suggest my neck of the wood, the East Coast…with the first preference going to New Jersey. All: feel free to make your opinion on the venue, date, and time known.
___________________ Forward ever, backward never! Posts: 1874 | From: USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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This is a noble idea. I will see you all on the dance floor. My own contribution will be forthcoming once things are in place to collect the funds.
Joy:
Congratulations on your elevation to Senior Advocate. You earned it.
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Adamu, Biafra is defunct in your medula oblangata, and not mine. If you will drop dead at the sight of the rising sun, then too bad, be prepared on that day. In my understanding this message board was born as a result of the aspiration or support for Biafra.
___________________ Chukwu gozie Nd'Igbo nile. Posts: 124 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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I dof my hat for you guys. count me in, my pledge will come soon. i dont rule out coming in person but time will tell.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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Folks As soon as the the fund collecting plan is in place i will send in my check. I suggest this gathering be open to Biafrans only. All the Igbo/Biafran haters of Nigeria should not be wellcomed.
I preffer non Nigerians to join us, you never know, we might decide to rub minds together in the interest of Biafra in the same gathering. For those Nigerians "Biafran haters" who are privilaged to post on this forum, my thinking is that you STAY AWAY.
Mid May will be a good time. NJ is also a good venue, it will be alot easy for those coming from Europe too.
Congrats on your elevation to the status of a senior Advocate of BiafraNigeria(SABN). It's good to have you around.
If you relax your "blanket ban" on the below-one-hundred-dollar members I'll make a pledge and then work towards making the get-together anywhere in the globe in the month of May! How about that?
Another point of correction, My "Rude Okonkwo" was the hero of the fictional Things fall apart by Chinua Achebe who held his dad in contempt because his old boy was poor and didn't have many yam farms/barns. He was the same guy that killed a messenger and hanged himself. He participated in the betrayal and killing of Ikemefuna(who regarded him as a close relation) because he wanted to be seen as a macho man.
Rude Okonkwo is purely a fictional character and it will be mere coincidence if anybody bears the same name and exhibits the same traits in real life.
To the co-ordinators of the DO:
What is the dress code if any?
___________________ Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos Posts: 2644 | From: United Kingdom | Registered: Apr 2001
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Thanks. I did not realize I had been promoted to Senior Advocate.
OU:
Go ahead and make your pledge bro. You are too special. Anything you don't give us in cash is made up for by your excellent contributions to this forum.
Whatever happened to Biafra, Ojoto, Amucha, etc?
Biafra: Is it true what Bamidele said about you? You always run when it comes time for contributions?
___________________ Biafra All The Way Posts: 202 | Registered: Mar 2001
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Being a humble student, I pledge $50. To whom should I make out the check and to what address should it be sent? Could you please send me a PM? New Jersey is fine with me but April is not good for me - I am organizing a wee little conference on BiafraNigeria [of which more later] in mid-April. I have papers to complete and exams right after that until mid-May so the weekends of May 18/19 or 25/26 work best for me. If this dates are not convenient for the others, I will send in my pledge but I won't be able to make it much as I would have loved to.
Those who think that Igbo culture was inherently patriarchal and sexist should read Ifi Amadiume's 'Male Daughters, Female Husbands' or 'Daughters of the Goddess, Daughters of Imperialism'. Nkeiru Nzegwu [www.jenda.com has argued that the Igbo political system was a dual-sex system and that patriachy actually came with European missionaries and their Victorian values. Even the colonial anthropologist, Sylvia Leith-Ross came to realize as far back as the 1920s that Igbo women were very self-reliant and independent.
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It is a deal! Amanda and Renee have saved the day.
Amanda: Before my counter offer to Africawest, I was going to try coaxing you with this: Posts: 17 | From: Manchester | Registered: Feb 2002
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Great, I will not miss this one for the world. I have always wanted to meet my fellow comrades in the fight for Biafra. Please Pencil me in for $100.00. I suggest you make this a by invitation only event filled with camraderie, such that everyone can mingle and shear experiences and ideas.
I don't want to attend another igbo lecture by a bunch of Phd's with zero practical application of whatever they supposedly learned.
Please when available, PM following to us:
What: When: Where: Who: Why:
Thanks, and I look forward to meeting everyone.
___________________ Let us be grateful to people who make us happy: They are the charming gardeners who make our souls blossom Posts: 96 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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We should discuss our next steps so that everyone knows where this celebration is headed. I don’t know how to contact you so my e-mail address is: renee_bridgeford@hotmail.com. Anyone who has a question about the event preparations, please feel free to send a message.
You suggested New Jersey. I see no problem with that venue. If someone else has another suggestion, please let us know.
It seems that May is the month of choice. However, we still need to settle on the dates. May has the following events/holidays:
Sunday, May 5 Cinco de Mayo (Mexico)
Sunday, May 12 Mother's Day
Saturday, May 18 Armed Forces Day (USA)
Monday, May 20 Victoria Day (Canada)
Monday, May 27 Memorial Day (USA)
Please let us know your suggestions.
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Thanks for the mini calendar. May12 & 18 is OK by me. But I prefer New York to New Jersey owing to the easier accessibility from abroad .
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He participated in the betrayal and killing of Ikemefuna(who regarded him as a close relation) because he wanted to be seen as a macho man.