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NOTHING PEACEFUL AND CIVIL ABOUT THIS CULT IF TRUTH STILL PREVAILS.
On January 05, 2006 10:45 PM in this thread I commented so: “At what cost before the equally backward Saudi government ban nigerian pilgrims from coming to their country with their BAD LUCK? Each year nigerian pilgrims transport their bad omen across the seas to Mecca and what happens next is death due to the stampeding clueless folks running helter-skelter without order or collapsed building, shootings and plane crash. Haba! I wonder how many of these crushed pilgrims are from nigeria, eh?” And today as you can see, they never disappointed as they crushed each other to death without which this outdated culture of packing outrageous number of illiterates in a jammed corner won't be complete.
quote:Hundreds killed in stampede at pilgrimage
‘The bodies were piled up. I couldn’t count them,’ witness says.
MECCA, Saudi Arabia - Thousands of Muslim pilgrims rushing to complete a symbolic stoning ritual during the hajj tripped over luggage Thursday, causing a crush in which at least 345 people were killed, the Interior Ministry said.
The stampede occurred as tens of thousands of pilgrims headed toward al-Jamarat, a series of three pillars representing the devil that the faithful pelt with stones to purge themselves of sin.
Each year these guys mimic the character of the nama/malu they drive by running over each other due primarily to their lack of respect for order and due process. I bet you forming a line or staying in a file is alien to them based on their constant affronts to the rule of law and orderly conducts no matter where. I’m surprised they never stone each other to death at least not yet. Talking about sins, their “sins” have been “purged” alright so what’s the fuss?
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I was not even aware of the discussion on this thread because I don’t debate religion and I was only drawn to this thread when Damian came out of his spider hole, and made reference to this thread in his reply to my posting.
You are very free to reach your conclusion, but you are not going to succeed in your unabated efforts to drag me into religious discussion. Religion to me is a personal thing and Faith is a personal relationship with one’s God.
The God I worship is a Living God and not a God that can be mocked by the unbelievers
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Election in Palestine is about to change the lives of ordinary Palestinians for the worst because Hammas, a super terrorist monster than the Fatwah party is in the picture as a power broker. Hammas refused to recorgnise Isreal as a nation and are determined to extinguish the existence of Isreal on earth. We hope the election does not go in favor of the bloody thirsty gnones.
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Moslems have been provoked again,so they think. A cartoon portraying Mohammed as a devil terrorist by a Dutch Newspaper has sparked violence in the moslem world. It is their birth right to make mockery of other people and like to be spared of the exquisite criticism of their action in their cartoon portraying Rabbis as blood thirsty cannibals; behead christians in the name of Allah but hell no to portray their prophet as a terrorist, yet Islam remains a peaceful religion. Bits me.
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The islamic and arab irony is that mohammed was a criminal terrorist. A look at the quran is all that's needed to see through their criminal enterprise. What has a democratic and separate Danish government got to do with a carton portraying mohammed for what he was? That's one! I can't remember the Catholic Church telling the editor what and what not to publish, do you fellas? Netanyahu got it right when he said the supper powers has just that, power while these prehistoric blood suckers have the will that it's about time they (civilization) show willingness to eradicate these unwanted.
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I am disappointed by most American media not to publish the carricature of Mohammed as a terrorist. The CNN, even thou Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC and most major Newspapers refused to publish the cartoon. Freedom of speech is more sacred than Mohammed.This is a victory to the terrorist GNONES whose idea of protest or mediation is through violence. Don't be shocked if the Islamic Republic of Northern Nigeria and their hopelessly unemployed moslems are not gearing a show of violence against the hard working innocent christians.This is not about Mohammed or Koran; it is about pathology and hopelessness in the moslem world. We cannot let these terrorist detect to the world that Mohammed is a sacred cow when I am consistenly labled as an non believer. To refer to me as a non believer is to deny the existence of Jesus Christ. How about that?
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Ndewo for making the pictorial description of the arch terrorist available. The islamic way is to poke fun at others while reserving theirs for special treatments. At one point in nigeria, there was a radio show that mocked the Christian faith. Every Sunday, you have pockets of mallams shrown around their urine filled mats laughing and chattering at what filters through their ears, it was fun for them yet no one dares return the valentine. I can think of how they did react had it been the other way around, burning, looting, killing and total disruption of the system. I suggest that people start calling these animals bluff and to return tenfold whatever violence they perpetrate in order to put their criminal enterprise to rest. Beats me how these filths want to have and eat their damn cake when the same mohammed enjoined them to:
“Cast terror in the hearts, smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers” - 8:12
And slay them wherever ye catch them - 2:191.
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter - 5:33.
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them - 8:12.
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly - 8:60.
O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers - 8:65.
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem - 9:5.
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers - 9:14.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued - 9:29.
O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell an evil refuge indeed - 9:73.
These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord) for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning! - 22:19-22.
Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. “(But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy - 25:68.
Bring ye up, it shall be said, “The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire! - 37:22-23.
Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens - 47:4.
And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! - 48:13.
Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, which none do eat but those in sin - 69:30-37.
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah - 3:28.
O ye who believe! When ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own) he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell an evil refuge (indeed)! - 8:15-16.
Only a TERRORIST would sanction what you just read and that people, makes mohammed one. Terror appeared so many times in the so-called quran which made it part of the culture to commit evil. So, where did the Danish paper go wrong?
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you're welcome. One moron dressed as a suicide bomber in England and the police just left him. The blooming jihadists think they will intimidate the whole world into putting up with their crap. Sometimes, you think hey, the world needs George Bush!
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Look at the above, now, that's freedom of expression, not bad coming from a moslem fanatic. Try dressing up like a christian soldier in a moslem world, Akhbar!Akhbar! you will definitely loose your most favorable body part.
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Brothers, I hear what you are saying + see where you are coming from. I am however of the position that the publication of those cartoons was ill-advised. If you try to find ‘negatives’ in the Koran you will succeed. In the same way, let us not forget that there are seemingly irreconcilable statements in the Old Testament. While we condemn the drive of the Muslims to rid the world of ‘infidels’, let us not forget the Spanish Inquisition that held sway for about 600 years. I believe that religion is a personal matter + the manner in which we are affected by it is largely down to individual interpretation. For instance, it would be simplistic for me to immediately assume that Christians the world over are prepared to be tolerant of other religions. There are ultra-conservative, fanatical Christians who would sooner look at a Muslim or Jew as kill him/her.
I believe that free speech is imperative but clear limits should be drawn. It is not free speech to shout ‘Fire’ in a crowded public venue when there is none. In the same way it is, in my opinion, wrong to purposely set out to incite others. It may be argued that some Muslims do the same against Christians but two wrongs don’t make a right however way we look at it. As Christians it is our teaching (in the New Testament) to turn the other cheek.
As much as I am against the cartoons, I am also very much against the donning of a suicide vest as a means of protest because it can also lead to fear + incitement. Free speech simply does not apply in this case. The question that should be on everyone’s lips is ‘where did he get the vest’? As far as I am concerned, he should be in jail.
I am always hesitant to comment on matters of religion pertaining to which is ‘good’ + which is ‘bad’. That’s largely subjective. In the end we will be judged on the basis of our conduct whether we be Muslim, Jew, Buddhist or Christian.
What would Jesus do?
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Mazi IgboB, ndewo nwa nnaa. First of brother, let me say you can view me as a parttime islamic scholar. I've come to know their mode inside out, by researching, following and writing about their antics. When dealing with these muslims, all emotion should be obliterated in order to understand where they’re coming and going. How many times have Christians gone out of the way to desecrate in the name of Jesus? I see movies about Jesus being a Homo/gay all the time yet the world remains intact. I see movies that twisted his life with no burning and maiming seen anywhere. Yet when the truth is told about a terror mastermind, mohammed, all hell break loose, why? The ad about what Jesus would drive, SUV would have been taken too far had it been about mohammed, bro.
quote:I believe that free speech is imperative but clear limits should be drawn.
I did be a big fool if I say you’re wrong but have you also not seen the constant poking of fun at other faiths by the muslims? Aplenty of arab caricature of Jewish Star of Moses exist. My experience in abuja was shared to highlight the mental state of these warmongers how they gather every Sunday just to listen to the taunting of Christians by a jihadists radio host. At times like this I could only remember sauce for goose sauce for gander.
quote:In the same way, let us not forget that there are seemingly irreconcilable statements in the Old Testament.
I can’t remember the last time any Christian wreaked havoc in the name of old testament. Those parts of the bible that do not aid society are not even remembered whereas the entire mohammed apostles remain hell bent in following all the primitive barking in that useless book of quran. Brother, herein lies the difference. It is most unfair in my view to expect people to constantly turn the other cheek for these terrorists which elvates the impetus to wreak more harm on society. Nwa nnaa, if not for the strong stance of the Israeli policy, they would have been relegated to dustbin of history.
quote:What would Jesus do?
Mazi IgboB, trust your brother on this one, had the same question been the other way around, you better believe your house did come down in the islamic arewa nigeria. Don’t believe me next time you visit ask them what mohammed would do to test this theory. The mere mention of this terrorist's name by a Christian is enough to incite them into violent action before it is fully understood. The question is not what Jesus would do since he never preached violence but what would mohammed do which has already been given up there. He did summon them to kill, kill, kill, kill until they run out of strength and to be continued.
Brothers, the only language these muslims understand is payback anything else is total waste. Remember all the unproved attacks by these idiots on our people living in the north? At no time did it occur to the northern leaders to arrest the culprits yet we’re enjoined to give the other cheek to be slapped silly? Not gonna happen with me for sure. There is one thing that is constitutionally protected all over decent world and that’s FREEDOM of SPEECH and the moment we allow these fools to truncate it, we’re done. Of course decorum and decency are always appreciated but it should not come through sheer violence. What’s wrong with the Islamic world organizing a peaceful protest, peace, a world that is alien to the entire mohammed world? What’s wrong with official letter of protest which to me would have garnered more sympathy than their trademark burn and kill? Let’s not for a moment loose sight of who we’re dealing with, TERRORISTS and their gutter religion.
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BBC Last Updated: Tuesday, 7 February 2006, 14:06 GMT
Nigerian MPs burn Denmark's flag A Nigerian Muslim Muslims regard the controversial cartoons as blasphemous Nigerian MPs cheered in the northern majority Muslim state of Kano as Danish and Norwegian flags were burned in a ceremony in the parliament premises.
The flags were torched to show disapproval of the publication in Denmark and Norway of cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad.
Earlier Kano state MPs passed a resolution to call off multi-million dollar trade negotiations with Denmark.
In Niger, thousands took part in banned protests against the cartoons.
The cartoons, originally published in a Danish newspaper, have been denounced in other African countries and throughout the Islamic world.
In Somalia, a teenage boy died after protesters attacked police on Monday.
Islamic tradition explicitly prohibits images of Allah and the Prophet Muhammad.
Christian backing
The BBC's Ado Saleh in Kano says some 200 people, including the 40 state parliamentarians, attended the flag burning.
CARTOON ROW 30 Sept 2005: Danish paper publishes cartoons 20 Oct: Muslim ambassadors complain to Danish PM 10 Jan 2006: Norwegian publication reprints cartoons 26 Jan: Saudi Arabia recalls its ambassador 30 Jan: Gunmen raid EU's Gaza office demanding apology 31 Jan: Danish paper apologises 1 Feb: Papers in France, Germany, Italy and Spain reprint cartoons 4 Feb: Syrians attack Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus 5 Feb: Protesters sack Danish embassy in Beirut
They shouted "Allah Akbar" (God is great) as Kano's parliament speaker Balarabe Saidu Gani set the flags alight, he says.
On Monday, the MPs passed a resolution ordering the Kano state government to call off negotiations with Denmark over a hydroelectric plant worth some $25m and to cancel the purchase of 72 buses from the country worth some $57m.
The Christian Association of Nigeira has condemned the publication of the cartoons.
Tensions between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria have led to clashes leaving thousands dead in recent years.
Anti-riot police
Meanwhile, the centre of Niger's capital, Niamey, came to a standstill as tens of thousands of Muslim protesters called on Niger's government to condemn the cartoon.
Permission for the march was withdrawn at the last minute for fear the situation would get out of hand, but the protesters ignored this.
For three hours, religious leaders addressed angry crowds condemning what they called the gratuitous provocation of Muslims by the West.
Anti-riot police protected Denmark's embassy in the capital, but the demonstration came to an end peacefully.
Protests against the cartoons in Muslim countries have targeted embassies and consulates of Denmark and Norway, the first countries where the cartoons were published.
They have been reprinted in newspapers in Germany, Italy, Hungary, the Netherlands, Spain and South Africa.
Jyllands-Posten, the Danish paper that originally printed the caricatures, has apologised for causing offence to Muslims, although it maintains it was legal under Danish law to print the cartoons.
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In everything negative the arewa islamic nigeria’s name MUST surface with absence of same in all things good yet those proud to be associated with that name exhibit no shame as if no big deal? How much damage do you think these criminal idiots have inflicted on that country of theirs? Immeasurable!
quote:The Christian Association of Nigeira has condemned the publication of the cartoons.
As for the confused organ known as CAN, they can Christian their farted asses back into their caves! When was the last time we saw the islamic people commiserate with Christians on the desecration of their religion? Someone should please tell these pre-Adam jihadists to relax already!
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Not quite personal my brother. My thing with the stampeding jihadists stems from their total lack of care for anyone who is not an islamist. Where do I begin and end, their cultural hostile takeovers or their mediocrity? My major gross with them is with all the crimes they committed and continue to against my people, I can’t help but react when I think of it. At the end, what matters should be whether my views on them are sewn with truth which no one has been able to debunk so far. Is anyone still in wonderland to believe we have commonality with these Mohammedans? Nothing about islam spells peace! No single democratic islamic nation exist and what do that tell us?
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Igbo/Biafra stand with Denmark against religious fanatics. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Denmark and the Nordic states played a key role in ensuring the survival of the Igbo race during the Hausa-Fulani inspired and Arab League supported Biafran Genocide (1966-70). We remember the Joint Action Aid (aka Jesus Christ Airlines).
Now that the small northern European state is being bullied, Ndiigbo everywhere have the obligation of innundating the Danish embassy with messages of solidarity at a time they need friends. The 40-million Christian Igbo people cannot just sit there and watch people burn Danish flags in the name of Nigeria. Igbo people stand for rational debate in a non-threatening atmosphere of non-violence.
Igbo and Biafran voices must be heard. We reject threats, violence, burning of buildings, killings, cancellation of contracts in the name of religion. We call on governors of Igbo states to immediately start negotiations with reputable Danish companies for the construction of power generating plands in Igboland.
Mazi Kevin Ani
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On behalf of my family and my straight shooting self, I pledge our total and sincere support to the Danish people who are under arab bombardment for their belief in real democracy that islamic world abhors. The world must stand up against the arab and islamic tyranny. They have zero tolerance for anything good and will ever remain stupid in their thinking and actions. This is by no means a curse; their quran is there for any to see all the actions of these criminals.
Mazi AO, could you make some numbers for the Danes’ embassy available, please? In the interim, I’ve written to CNN – Anderson Copper, Oreilly of fox news, Joe Scarborough, Chris Mathews and Hannity all of MSNBC and Chgo Tribune. What was copiously shared was the islamic driven violence with links provided and how their mohammed approved of such means to "instill terror" (exact words) on their opponents.
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