I was happy to see Anu nti face off squarely with you based on the cynical proverb you threw at him in order to score a point.

If I say I was dissapointed to see the ease with which Anu nti unravelled your game, one might ask why, why dissapointed?

Well, disapointed because you could not keep up the pretence long enough as I would expect every well brought up Yoruba boy, what with the initial thick lacing of kind words,agreeable mien,emphatic humility,self deprecation, unparraleled candor etc etc... well worn skills with which the Yoruba use to totally charm and disarm those whom they wish to impart the kiss of Judas.

I always knew that the candor was forced, much like a man holding his breath underwater,
sooner or later he would have to come up for air, so when Anu nti held you underwater by the power of your own proverb (which you thought had put him in place) you had to come up for air or drown in your own suppressed fury, hence the cynical picture which you attached to further buttress your point.

Here in these traits you see the difference between the Hausa and the Yoruba.

When the Hausaman feels hatred, envy, or rage toward others and is lacking in superior reasoning, he tries to take charge by force instead of engaging through fairplay, and when he meets resistance he immediately starts stabbing.One can see this in Adamu's tendencies when out of frustration his one liners are laced with disappointed emotional outburst, usually a cussword or two to soothe his nerves, otherwise he moves on with life non the worse for wear until the next pang of rage hits. This seems to be the Hausa/Fulani code

The Yoruba on the other hand pride themselves for their guile. they see themselves as the masters of controlled chaos.faced with the same scenario as the Hausa man above, they immediately subdue themselves totally. and begin the fine art of flattery.If you want their mother, they give you. if you want their sister, they give you. if you want to know where their father is hiding so you can finish him off, they lead you to him without your so much as asking out loud
(ask their dreaded neighbors from the kingdom of Dahomey) but dont take my word, read up on what Diya did toward Abacha, or what Senior Army officers of the Nigerian army (of Yoruba origin) did when a low level officer like Gowon took power in Nigeria, how they abandoned post and fled for dear life. Is this HONOR? or can any reasonable person see honor in this? yet as Yoruba subdue themselves, they scuttle about like chickens throwing up a lot of commotion in the process, in the safety of commotion and mob activity then they commit dastardly and cowardly acts of betrayal and murder. This is the Yoruba code.
When their talking drums begin to retell the story however, all calumny,cowardice and treachery are wiped clean and so their lessons are never learnt. Ask Adekunle(so-called black scorpion)Jemibewon, or even Obasanjo whose emasculation is so total that not only was he thrown in jail like a common rat by Abacha, he cannot even bring an ordinary Governor to book over Sharia.

These men Like square pegs in a round hole still found themselves kissing awusa butts and scuttling into exile or dodging around A-la NADECO like cornered rats in a country where they at least hoped that they would be accepted as second class citizens for their efforts at betrayal.

One would have expected that any man of integrity and honor would at least recognize and reject the traits mentioned above and identify with those seeking to uphold fairplay, integrity and honor, but instead KA maintained predictable course hoping perhaps to soften a few hearts and when this seemed to be met with stiff reasoning by Anu nti he caved in ...so easily.

KA, while you were waxing philosophical I wish you would have spent some time to ask what Anu nti means in Igbo. Let me explain it in pidgin; it means Person wey no dey hear wan (Of course it may not be taken literally as we Africans know about names and how you interprete them, even nicknames or in this case online usernames) I wish you would have asked what Anu nti means because you may have thought twice about trying to put him on the spot with a cheesy proverb (rendered in Yoruba for that matter)and saved yourself the embarassment.

Don't get me wrong, I could see that Anu nti fully understood the import of your proverb and that he fully respects its real implications(not the one you tried to impart for your failed purposes)
but in using this proverb to attempt to sway minds you gave Anu nti the chance to tell you that Igbos are a people rooted in the principles of farplay, honor and integrity, who while deeply spiritual are also of the persuasion that an individual does have some say in his destiny.

If you understood this, that is, if you were a little more sincere about your true agenda instead of putting us through the pretence, you would not have gotten easily frustrated and shown your hand so quickly.

One of the particular message I am trying to pass accross here, is that the Yorubas are governed but some 'strange' but explicable rule which you have to familiarise yourselves with in order to perfect your strategies. One of such rules again can be found in the following wise saying, "If two sibblings retreat for a tête-á-tête. By watching their reactions when they re-emerge, one can easily conclude about their subject of discussion. For if it were something serious then they would definitely be frowning, hissing and cursing, if not actually fighting - angrilly. On the other hand, if it were something unserious, they will be seen coming out laughing and issuing press conferences (figuratively)"

Ukaobasi, being a wise man, I am sure you would be able to decode that saying.

In essense, if my postings here is ruffling your feathers, I guess it may be concluded that we are discussing something serious. N'est ce pas?

Meanwhile, that I agree with you and support your cause does not necessarilly mean that I cannot criticize you, nor even crack jokes about you. Its all part of who I am am, or perhaps that me and my people are, you see we Yorubas love to laugh at ourselves a lot.

Okay, Adamu, you have a point, but at least we Yorubas even have them in crying forms too

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Originally posted by Anu Nti:
All,
May be, I am coming late into this and the picture has been replaced because what I see doesn't match the exchanges above.

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Hello,Anu Nti

You did indeed miss something. What you missed was a picture depicting three supposed Igbos dubbed to be kings and replete with Yoruba titles kneeling before the Alaafin of Oyo. (I'm sure KA is thanking God for "cut and paste" capabilities on the internet as he predictably removed the picture to make the subsequent exchanges seem ridiculous)
With this brother called KA one is reminded of the admonition to "Beware of strangers bearing gifts" If he had a morsel of honor I would ask him to repaste that picture on this thread so that it can be really dealt with for the avoidance of any doubts about our position. In my book if you have honor,you don't throw a punch at someone and having missed then decide to throw in the towel and declare peace (remember what I told you about the Yoruba code).

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but if you have a gene for Yoruba hate, who am I to change you.
The Yorubas are your neighbours and a critical factor in the success of your struggle, you may hate them, you mmay like them, but you cannot igore them. If that is the case then you have no point reigning abuse on me..

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KA,
You seem to have this obsession with "Hate", whether you're hated or whether you're loved is out of the question not only for myself but from most people whose contributions I have seen on these threads. Personally I don't hate you, firstly because I am a Christian, and secondly, because as an Igbo if I allowed hatred to blind me I would have failed to see the bigger picture and the attempts at genocide would then have become successful, as it is, its the true love and forgiveness which Igbos and Biafrans in general posess that makes them immune to the machinations of those who have always schemed to undermine them.

Having said that, when we see hateful behaviour we are obliged to point it out in all its ramifications no matter how difficult it is to accept and in your pasting that picture I saw hateful behaviour which was substantiated in your removing it.

Since I have noticed your postings I had always observed your attempts at candor and politeness and even when you have cracked jokes in the past, it had always been devoid of a cynical bent the likes of which you find from Adamu, Ayodele, etc.., but after the exchange with Anu Nti and the display of a picture meant to imply that Igbos have finally been broken and subjugated (by non other than Yoruba!!!) I had to take off my gloves and tell you a thing or two.

You see in these threads, you have to present yourself as you truly are. If you are full of hate for Biafra, dont be afraid to show it, if you are in support of what Biafra stands for and wish to emulate our position then don't expect to be patted on the back, don't expect hugs and kisses, and don't necessarily expect to be accepted, failing which you then unravel your cynical side. In otherwords you can't have it both ways.

You have always talked about action rather than words, what I wish to tell you is this: Feel free, go out there and do Pro Biafra
activies no one is stopping you, afterall, when our Lords disciples came to report to him that during their mission they saw people casting out demons in his name and they (the disciples) tried to stop them, Our lord Jesus Christ asked the disciples to "leave them, for those who are for us cannot be against us". If you wish to Sacrifice for the Biafra cause feel free like I said, if you encounter danger (as you certainly will from many quaters, even from Igbos the likes of which you saw kneeling before Alaafin) dont give up if you are of real conviction, rather if you're killed as many Biafrans have been, consider yourself one of the Matyrs to the cause who will certainly be recognized as such.

Don't come to us expecting us to jump out there and hug you just because you finally realized that the Blackmans lot will continue to be embarrassingly(as you put it in a previous thread)bleak if we fail to extricate ourselves from the slumber induced by the ravages of Economic clonization By the Conglomerates such as BP.

You see Yoruba, Hausa, and others should wake up first. We Biafrans feel sorry for them because while in slumber, they are still killing and betraying for crumbs and even basking in the age old Colonialists trickery whereby they induced division by telling one tribe that they were superior to the other either through culture or otherwise.

Spend your time to wake your people up and formulate a vision and when you are ready we will know. You do not burst on the scene and start preaching to the converted, they will only take one look at you and recognize where you are coming from, and please enough about this so-called "Yorubas are governed by some 'strange' but explicable rule which you have to familiarise yourselves with in order to perfect your strategies". I quoted you directly. You've used words such as "mysterious" etc.. to describe Yoruba and since I grew up in Lagos and have in-laws among Yoruba, it dissapoints me greatly to hear you still living the colonialists lie.

The vision you see Biafrans articulating herein has not been out of luxurious comfort but out of urgent necessity based on painful experience like the Jews through time and History. Therefore, dont preach to us about cooperation and Bridgebuilding, nobody in Nigeria or I daresay the world has built bridges as much and as well as the Igboman, and though they have been greatly dissappointed by the lethargy and jealousy induced treachery of their Yoruba and Hausa neighbors, they will not cease to continue trying, Rather we will continue to recalibrate our choice of associates until we find the right mix.

But then be rest assured that nobody is fooled. This is cyberspace, computer and anybody can do anything. I did not not replace the photo, why would I? Why would I replace the photo without replacing the head and foot notes. What about Adamus comment? What about the other comments? And in actual fact why is the photo now so important as to be able to "confuse" anybody? The photo up was just a side joke that I thought to share, it removes nothing from the substance of the thread.

In another sense, it both my humble self (the poster) and the esteemed administrator of this message board that have "official priviledge" of changing any posted material, so why is your accusation directed at me.

The people are utterly undeserving of any modicum of trust. They are that way. See this one. How long did it take for his veneer of rectitude to be peeled off? And what does he do? Bingo, he high tails it out of here, thumping his chest (at what?).

Ditto.

But how I wish they would truly recognize that they along with the misguided Awusa are in a deeper mess than they try to inflict on Igbos.

Anybody looking at world geopolitics that would ask themselves why Africa is so helpless and so downtrodden (I might add in addition to other third world Nations) would begin to see the same pattern despite the fact that most have gained political independence and that there are now so many educated and PHD holding people in Sub-saharan Africa for example, especially in a place like Nigeria where the ratio of educated people to the population probably outnumbers some European or Asian countries.

-Are these people just plain blockheaded?
-Are these people just plain ignorant?
-Are these people simply inferior?

What is it? why do they continue to remain backward?

-One had thought that if one went to school and earned a PHD you would emmerge from backwardness.
-One had thought that if one enlightened oneself through exposure and self improvement one could join the advanced nations.
-One had thought that if one gained ones Independence one could chart ones own course and begin to achieve a structural semblance of it.

In the early nineties when the Soviet Union had just disintegrated and was going through bad economic times, Vladimir Zhirinovsky during his run for presidency had stated as one of his campaign promises that he would simply recolonize third world countries as a source of mineral resources which would power the new Russian economy to improvement.
Laughable as he (Zhirinovsky) later turned out to be, I could not help but reflect that nothing separates us from the fate of our forefathers who allowed the Europeans to colonize them. Tomorrow it could be China, or even India doing the colonizing unless US intervenes.

Isn't it shameful for Africans that the only thing that separated us from total anihilation by the Europeans like they did the Amerindian was Jungles, Mosquitos, Tse-Tse flies etc..

And so we rejoiced to have gained political independence but the entire structure of subjugation perfected by the colonial master was still intact, and since power abhorrs a vacuum, it was soon filled with Economic colonialism by the established conglomerates who saw in the availability of oil (and other minerals such as copper and bauxite in the Congos)an abundance of riches the likes of which should not be left to the management and ownership of the natives.

And so the cycle of enslavement continued. those who posed the greatest potential challenge or appeared to be "outspoken",
"too big for their britches" etc.. were marked for perpertual subjugation by hook or crook,
Those who seemed agreeable were calibrated based on their ability to deliver and ability to enforce the established goals.

Since the structure of colonial subjugation already existed a-la forced amalgamation of divergent entities(divide and rule) it was obvious that at some point a colision or several colisions would occur in which people will be put in their respective places through murder and genocide.

That is the Africa that we're in today. For the piece of crumbs they can get from the masters table the Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba have taken upon themselves the positions of "Chief boy" and "Assistant chief boy" with other myriad groups vigorously vying for the position of "mere boy" unfortunately as a result of the ravages of the civil war in which Nzeogwu gave them an escuse to unveil their plans of wholesale genocide, you now have several Igbos in the third category.

It is now time to wake up and Biafrans are now stating their position and working towards it and in forums such as this encouraging one another and psychologically preparing one another for the battles ahead.

These battles will be waged through the non-violent approach since we have once fought the battle of arms against the militarily British backed Nigerian forces.

These battles will be waged first for the hearts and minds of all Biafrans and then methodically advanced to the hearts and minds of other Africans who wish to wipe off the cobwebs from their eyes and further on waged for the hearts and minds of the good people of advanced nations in whose names their governments have empowererd and assisted the conglomerates to commit atrocious crimes against humanity such as the ecological degradation and destruction of lands which adversely affect all Africans (including the Clueless Hausa/Fulani and slippery Yoruba

This is what Biafra is all about. If we persist with dilligence we will conquer, but diligence demands that we see through the charade and trickery of the likes of KA.
Adamu, Ugali shaga, Ayodele, etc.. these guys have appointed themselves the "patriotism police"

What clowns would take it upon themselves to enforce patriotism? who told these guys that patriotism could be enforced? yet this is what the Hausa/Fulani and aquiesing Yoruba would seek to achieve. In their determination they forget that they have exposed their backsides for all to see, yet they persist.

So to the Yoruba I ask: where is all the Western education going? To the Hausa I ask where is all the Isamic/Arabic education going? Why can't you wake up and see the real shackles that hold you bound? why can't you open your eyes and define a vision for yourselves.

Why still fighting Jihads and intertribal one upmanship wars? do you think we have time for you anymore?

Like I've always said, Biafrans have realized that Nigeria is small potatos when it comes to the work ahead, so to all those who are so obsessed with "Nigerianess" to all those who continue to obsess about stopping the Biafran cause, I would continue to say: