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Okwyonwuka, Yours as excellently enunciated above in your last post is well-digested and fully accepted.I am resisting the urge to cold shoulder your gobbledegook as the mere ranting of an ant, full of fury but signifying zip; so i will humor your contumacious disregard for savoir faire a little by engaging you in an educative skull session. When you decided to haul obloquy at my person casus belli,you thought you had the last laugh, due to my silence. You went to sleep with two eyes closed deeply esconced in your make-believe sanctum, forgetting the words of our elders: A wiseman does not chastise a child who falls and break the palm oil gourd,as passer(s)by will notice that the reason for the chastisement is the oil tariff, but when the same child falls and break the water gourd, he is beaten in measure to compensate for the quondam act of carelessness; Water as you know, does not come with a fare.
quote:i do not consider you a man capable taking charge of a family, niether do i see you as a person of intelligence capable of making any meaninfull contribution to any worthy organisation or community, let me tell you what i think about you,.....ad infinitum
How does one respond to this sort of dross emanant from the gray matter of a supposed trusty adult? I leave you with this, next time you suffer the itch to announce to me what you really think about me, do me a big favor, let me do the asking first. To that end, your endeavor will not be pointless. Lest i forget, my six year old sends his greetings.
quote:...that loves to plays with the internet hopeing that in the future can make a living showing how much you hate anything Igbo
You will be pleasantly surprised that i do not hate anything Igbo. Hate is a very strong emotion that yours truly is incapable of defending, talk less of domiciling. What and who i cannot stand however is the art of fourberie or skulduggery and people who find no incentive to live by that golden biblical injunction; Do unto others as you would be done by. My good friend UKAOBASI happen to share a space with you in this roll of dishonour.
quote:addy, kindly publish to the fora your educational qulifications, who knows, okwy onwuka most have been debating with the most exellent yorobaman..
Okwy, I decline your passionate appeal for the publication of my acquirement in erudition. This is of no consequence whatsoever in the foregoing attempt at the indoctrination of subtlety and tact into your thought process. In other words, it is of no business of yours.
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quote:Addy, I guess that statement particularly got to you so much worse than it did Taiwo. Well I can now rest assured in the knowledge that "a hyena can never change its spots" so its back to my disposition to expect nothing from you other than cynicsm veiled in civility of which I will not humor on this board just for the sake of banter..... UKAOBASI
To you UkaObasi, I leave this thought-provoking scenario. He who will be judge over others, better watch out else... In a trial, a southern small town prosecuting attorney called his first witness to the stand - a grandmotherly, elderly woman. .
He approached her and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know me?" She responded, "why, yes I do know you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a young boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me . You lie, you cheat on your wife, you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you never will amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you. " The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know the defense attorney?" She again replied, "why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He can't build a normal relationship with anyone and his law practice is one of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife with three different women.. Yes, I know him." The defense attorney almost died ! At this point, the judge brought the courtroom to silence, called both counselors to the bench, and in a very quiet voice, said, "If either of you bastards asks her if she knows me, you'll be jailed for contempt."
I have nothing more to say to you for now because despite your blase manifestation of duplicitous affectation, i have a feeling that you are whiz enough to grab the admonition inherent in the above. Ciao!
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Your continued strategy to disrupt any decent debate suggest either stupidity or an agenda set out by a unit of the secrete service of Nigeria.
Do you get paid by the quota of disruptions?
Nigeria is already finished. What matters is whether the break-up is peaceful or not.
But we know you will be ringing hands until it shakes-up - or may be the west will send their sons to die and deliver a state for you? You haven't got a clue.
Ade, As they told your beloved son, Abiola, go home and do your own dying.
The spineless will perish first.
From bonny to benue and from oga to urohbo: the Igbo will show you what is steel. Cold steel
___________________ Onye ji obuadana na aka fu Nmadu.
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quote:In a trial, a southern small town prosecuting attorney called his first witness to the stand - a grandmotherly, elderly woman. .
He approached her and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know me?" She responded, "why, yes I do know you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a young boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me . You lie, you cheat on your wife, you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you never will amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you. " The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know the defense attorney?" She again replied, "why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He can't build a normal relationship with anyone and his law practice is one of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife with three different women.. Yes, I know him." The defense attorney almost died ! At this point, the judge brought the courtroom to silence, called both counselors to the bench, and in a very quiet voice, said, "If either of you bastards asks her if she knows me, you'll be jailed for contempt."
Addy;
Abeg, no kill pesin with laughter here o That judge no dey waste time kankan. You sure say no be Naija scenario be dis bifor one person come change the name to oyibo name? . Chei, na T.K.O you deliver to the whole legal system with one blow pata pata .
The full import and gravity of this anecdote is not lost on me however.
But omo, why be say you dey like to attack Okwy now? I sabi say una don fight for other thread so tay blood begin gush. But dis one wey you just come drag hin name into this thread unprovoked, abeg, tell me, e no get as e be? Make you dey check o. If you ask me, I go say that e no good to carry old grudges to new threads, abi no be so? Ahhhh, I no belif say you go just tackle the man with dis kain underground tactics o. But anyways sha, na you sabi why you do am. Kai, una dey retain grudges for here o. Odikwa egwu!( I fear oo)
That was a very funny one indeed. Your nifty use of proverbs as always is very inspiring.
quote:I have nothing more to say to you for now because despite your blase manifestation of duplicitous affectation, i have a feeling that you are whiz enough to grab the admonition inherent in the above. Ciao!
As regards “your blase manifestation of duplicitous affectation”, though somewhat unnecessarily hyperbollic, you could’nt have summed up better exactly how you have succeeded in coming accross since you joined this board.
My purpose in all my postings has always remained intact and sincere in its clarity. i.e the conscious and peaceful decoupling of the forced and farcical contraption you call “Nigeria”, replacing in its stead, either a collection of independent Nations of a commonwealth as from the former Soviet Union, or if expressly desired by all former members, including our Biafra, a confederacy as of the Swiss to be called by whatever name selected (even including Nigeria) so long as its members are coming together from a position of mutual internal strength and equity to build a stronger mutual union. Not the type of current entrapment in which one member major bloc has arbitrarily installed a different constitution (Sharia), another, enjoying the fruits of transient power has determined to foist Meaness, maliciousness, nepotism and divisiveness, leaving the third and the rest to madhouse survivalism and desperadoe instincts. All, living under the constant fear of the sword of Damocles; The possible emergence of some charismatic military turk to send us all back into square one of oblivion, despite all our acquired “enlightenment”.
I have at least not pretended to express any “affectation” towards you, but rather from day 1 a deliberate civility despite my unhidden cynicsm, so there has been absolutely nothing “duplicituous” about which any on this board could point to as regards my responses towards you, and when you have given me undeserved credit for “Character”, I have been the first to reject its inhibiting pretensions.
Now, on the other hand, what about you? What has been your purpose since your advent on this board? You started out preaching about “forgeting the (hazy and I suppose imagied) past” You told us how good Igbo’s (the good”traders” that we all are) had it intermarrying and trading in Lagos (a former capital mind you) and the West. You reminded us that a Southern alliance against the North would keep the Northerners in their place. You told us some of your best friends were Igbo. You laboriously explained with well laced proverbs, the virtues of civility (I suppose civility on your own terms that is). Despite your pretensions, however, you sought to ignore those who were telling you to disregard cosmetic civility and deal with the dirty issues that place us in uncivil proximity, instead you held up like a gavel (like an angry judge )the hostility to unload hysterical abuse and malice upon Igbos in general if any single member of the forum said something not in keeping with your GREAT EXPECTATIONS (such as the inevitable comments against Aremu or about Yoruba).
Based on your GREAT EXPECTATIONS isn’t it then evident that you displayed a “blase manifestation of duplicitous affectation” in order to project civility all in order to gain acceptance? And when that was not forthcoming, you resorted to uncivil hysteria. My question therefore being:
--HOW HAVE YOU STAYED TRUE TO YOUR CAUSE?
--HOW HAVE YOU DEMONSTRATED THAT YOUR CAUSE WAS NOT A CYNICAL NEO AWOIST ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PEOPLES BY BUILDING TEMPORAL AND CYNICAL BRIDGES OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE TO YOU (SOUTH VERSUS NORTH, SOUTHEAST VERSUS SOUTH-SOUTH, NORTH VERSUS EAST etc.)BUT OF CONTINUED DIVISIVENESS AND CONTENTIOUSNESS TO ALL.
--HOW HAVE YOU DEMONSTRATED ANY OPEN MINDEDNESS TO MOLD THROUGH THE FORCE OF SINCERE REASONING THE SINCERE ASPIRATIONS MANY HAVE EXPRESSED ON THIS BOARD EVEN BEFORE YOU JOINED IT?
--ARE YOU SUCH A ONE AS TO GIVE UP SO EASILY IF YOUR CAUSE WAS VALID AND ROOTED IN HONESTY THAT YOU THEN RESORT TO MALICIOUS OUTBURSTS IN OBLIVIOUSNESS AND CONTRADICTION TO YOUR INITIALLY EXPRESSED BELIEFS?
I am not “Whiz enough to grab the admonition inherent” in your proverb, being an unwise simpleton myself, but to the extent that it is supposed to be an admonition, I have the absolute confidence that you are feverishly itching to tell me. Whatever that admonition maybe, I leave you with “thought-provoking” and ABSOLUTE assurance that its impact and ramifications would also unhesitatingly be turned upon you.
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UKAOBASI, With your permission, i will take the liberty to extrapolate from your above thesis, so as to separate the chaff from the wind so to speak.
1.You believe and are working very hard to see to the dismemberment of the entity called Nigeria in a peaceful and satisfying manner. In its place, you'd rather see a loose confederation of independent states within the same country, or better still, independent countries with own flags, names, anthem and so forth.
2.I came to the board preaching civility and good neighborliness. Although while not impressed, some members including yourself decided to watch me try to do the impossible.
3. When the mostly intolerant igbo commentators on the board give vent to their misgivings about the Yoruba race in general due to the actions of a few Yoruba nationals, i did not act according to your expectations by keeping mute or in some instances, even join the chorus.
Then follow your questions..
Let me attempt to sincerely answer your posers and concerns..
1. For the benefit of the newcomers especially and oldies to this board alike, i'd like to repeat the following...
It bear repeating that i absolutely concede to you and all Igbos worldwide, the right to expect full and unfetterd participation in their country. I will be foolish to believe otherwise. I also believe just as passionately as you do, that the citizens of the country are not being served well by their leaders, whether elected or otherwise. I take solace in the words of Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu (who nonetheless is not one of my heroes)that: There is nothing wrong with being a Nigerian, absolutely nothing. But there is everything wrong with being a Nigerian under the present circumstances.I do believe that it is a monumental shame and one that should bring tears to the face of anybody who has blood flowing in their veins, that a very integral part of the country; the SouthEast is put in a position to literally beg for access to God-given rights, so much so that it is taking Honorable MPs to embark on hunger strike to draw attention to this ...... (forgive me, i am lost for appropriate words). This is however the limit to our common grounds. I passionately REJECT all notions that when the rains refuse to fall on Umuahia during their yam planting season, it has to be that Obafemi Awolowo in his grave has given directives to the angels to shut the heavens over Umuahia. To me, this is the height of paranoia. I also passionately heave-ho the axiom that Olusegun Obasanjo's policies are a ploy to further extend the hegemonic predilection of the whole Yoruba race. In other words, my college education teaches me that it is apophthegmatic and indubitable that a whole race is not to be held to account for the sins of a few. I believe that you should also have the benefit of that knowledge.
2. I make no pretensions that the country is ailing. I also entertain no supposition that component parts of the country are ecstatic about the direction of affairs of state under the present superintendent. What i cannot defend is the fixation that what divides us is greater than what unites us. The country, in my humble estimation, is bigger than Olusegun Obasanjo and the PDP of today, and it is in this light that i was undaunted by the naysayers about the futility of my passion. But there is a human limit to civility. When civility is returned with discourtesy at every turn, you get the impression that you are dealing with extremists whose ideas though noble, bear with it the seal of tyrannical brigandage. A case of: It is either my way or the highway. It is quite possible to deal with the dirty issues without a recourse to gutter polemics. If we shout ourselves hoarse from now till kingdom come, we will end up making no appreciable difference in the lives of our people back home who daily endure the indignities of feeling unwanted in their fatherland, we will keep shortchanging our people back home who look up to us to raise the tone of agitation from empty fulmination to a result-oriented tenor. Considering our exposure and education, their confidence is not misplaced. I say we need to engage in robust brainstorming and critical soul-searching about our methods. A strong man is he who can accept faults and use that to make ammends.
Now to your questions:
quote:HOW HAVE YOU STAYED TRUE TO YOUR CAUSE?
I have stayed true to my cause by providing an alternative voice of reason to the constant denigration of other non-Igbo Nigerians on this forum. In the process i have not lost sight of the fact that while it is not undesirable to go our separate ways, i have laid down an alternative line of thought which although quite unpopular under the circumstance, is practicable. This being that: This fight against oppression and injustice is not an Igbo fight, but the fight of all justice-loving people all over, it detracts from the cause to indiscreetly brand a people of about 30 million as enemies. 1. That saps necessary energy needed for the fight. 2. That widens the number of forces to contend with. 3. That takes something away from sympathy to cause. 4. That raises the odds against a united frontal approach. You will agree with me that battles are not won this way.
quote:HOW HAVE YOU DEMONSTRATED THAT YOUR CAUSE WAS NOT A CYNICAL NEO AWOIST ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PEOPLES BY BUILDING TEMPORAL AND CYNICAL BRIDGES OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE TO YOU (SOUTH VERSUS NORTH, SOUTHEAST VERSUS SOUTH-SOUTH, NORTH VERSUS EAST etc.)BUT OF CONTINUED DIVISIVENESS AND CONTENTIOUSNESS TO ALL.
I will quickly divert to touch on the first aspect of your question, Demonstrating that my cause was different from a neo Awoist .......
My understanding of Politics and Democracy is the protection of interests. You approach me with a demand for my vote, and i in turn present you with a list of interests that i either want protected or furthered. Any other thinking is unrealistic. "Awoism as i understand it is a means to this end. A set of progressive ideals whose bedrock is the attempt to further or improve the lots of my immediate constituents (Nigerians) through the attainment of political power. Failing in this, to otherwise direct attention to my more immediate surrounding (Yoruba)and showcase my talent to impact positively on every sphere of their lives. Because of my more immediate surrounding's implicit trust in me as evidenced by their mandate of trust thrust on me, to aggressively defend their interests among the committee of other contending nations in Nigeria and ensure that no immediate injury comes its way and in such a way as not to deliberately inflict injury on other component parts". (I have not forgotten the 20 pound saga and the economic blockade during the civil war but that will take a whole session to address).
The second part of your qustion is best answered thus: It is of no immediate or future gain for me and my descendants to attempt to keep Nigeria in the woods, as your question prescribe. We are all ashamed of the country as we see it waste its potential and goodwill by high levels of corruption, nepotism, injustice, hunger, disease and all. Let me however quickly throw a word of caution here, It is not a result of Yoruba mismanagement of resources or non-comprehension of management rudiments but a collective failure on the part of our elites, both in the Civilian and military. Igbos also happen to be in this unwholesome company. I have no intention to play up peoples' emotions for personal gain. My quest is for ways to present a Yoruba point of opinion in a largely Igbo forum in order to correct some terrible misconceptions and in the process to hear the Igbo side of the story for me to learn and be able to impart an impartial knowledge to my progeny.
quote:--HOW HAVE YOU DEMONSTRATED ANY OPEN MINDEDNESS TO MOLD THROUGH THE FORCE OF SINCERE REASONING THE SINCERE ASPIRATIONS MANY HAVE EXPRESSED ON THIS BOARD EVEN BEFORE YOU JOINED IT?
In most of my postings, i have carefully adopted a suave approach to these matters of emotion, (unless of course in reaction to an unwarranted attack on my race). I still repeat that inspite of the sincere aspirations of many on this board, same cannot be said of their reasoning. Sincere aspiration should not give vent to poisonous fumes of bete noire (hate). If you sieve through my writings, you will discover that (You even admitted to this) i came to this forum with very good intentions, but when the cacophony of Yoruba opposition began to get to me, i modified my writings to reflect my feelings. As Yorubas will say: only a bastard will point out his father's house with the left metacarpus.
quote:ARE YOU SUCH A ONE AS TO GIVE UP SO EASILY IF YOUR CAUSE WAS VALID AND ROOTED IN HONESTY THAT YOU THEN RESORT TO MALICIOUS OUTBURSTS IN OBLIVIOUSNESS AND CONTRADICTION TO YOUR INITIALLY EXPRESSED BELIEFS?
I demand no capitulation from anyone whose cause is valid. What i desire is for us to tone down our rhetorics and be late in judging others. If Obasanjo's actions are injurious to Igbos' interests, by all means, take him to task but do not in a haze of fury insult everyone that is unfortunate enough to bear a name starting with an "O". Thanks.
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I think by now you should be able to ignore people who are only interested in pissing in the wind. Such as Mr. Rick.
I am from Anioma, and I remain a true son and conduit, as are many from that honorable land, of its dreams, fears and aspirations. And I can with all manner of humility and authority, tell you that Mr. Rick has no understanding of that which he speaks about.
The Anioma people like most people everywhere want a political and economic system that permits them to live freely, participate unhindered in commerce, education and in the construction of a country that can compete with any other country in the world. They definitely do not like what has become of Nigeria - a lawless and corrupt place. The people of Anioma will hitch its wagon to those who share the aforementioned values.
The vanity of the supposedly well read is there to be mock if the substance is spurious.
If only I can engage my self in self-mockery , " bete noire", Cicero or is it bete sauvage, to the young pretender.
Dorian Gary will not even support such self flagellation and glory.
If such Faustian hegelian diatribe is of no use, what is you objective?
Can the pretender, say whether he is One nation Nigeria (ONN) or not. Civility has it place but clarity tells the truth - no parabolic waffle, please.
The canons of western education is well know to N'digbo.
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I will quickly divert to touch on the first aspect of your question, Demonstrating that my cause was different from a neo Awoist .......
My understanding of Politics and Democracy is the protection of interests. You approach me with a demand for my vote, and I in turn present you with a list of interests that I either want protected or furthered. Any other thinking is unrealistic. "Awoism as I understand it is a means to this end. A set of progressive ideals whose bedrock is the attempt to further or improve the lots of my immediate constituents (Nigerians) through the attainment of political power. Failing in this, to otherwise direct attention to my more immediate surrounding (Yoruba)and showcase my talent to impact positively on every sphere of their lives. Because of my more immediate surrounding's implicit trust in me as evidenced by their mandate of trust thrust on me, to aggressively defend their interests among the committee of other contending nations in Nigeria and ensure that no immediate injury comes its way and in such a way as not to deliberately inflict injury on other component parts". (I have not forgotten the 20 pound saga and the economic blockade during the civil war but that will take a whole session to address).
If the Awoist view de monde is to seek the protection and profit of the Oduduwa people in Nigeria if in control of the whole Nigeria state (viz. the Aremu Obasanjo federal regime) to better the said lineage, then surely the aim to elevate the Yorubas above others is an agenda advocated by the above and the Awoist philosophy.
From you premise and acknowledgement of the Awoist basis, which from a Yoruba perspective is laudable, it remain that any gains by the Oduduwa people at the expense of other groups within Nigeria in a Faustian thirst welcomed.
I ask from this assumption as Aremu has done in actuality:
Is the reallocation of a power plant from Ike Sanda Nwachukwu IMO state to Yorubaland not a good Awoist policy or at least an interpretation of the Awoist agenda by you?
Therefore the allocation of funds from the federal account to build and maintain roads within the Yorubaland at the expense of other areas of Nigeria including Igboland is fine within the Awoist hegemony. (The gains are temporary and marginal, but how can this be the basis for co-existence).
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2. I make no pretensions that the country is ailing. I also entertain no supposition that component parts of the country are ecstatic about the direction of affairs of state under the present superintendent. What I cannot defend is the fixation that what divides us is greater than what unites us. The country, in my humble estimation, is bigger than Olusegun Obasanjo and the PDP of today, and it is in this light that I was undaunted by the naysayers about the futility of my passion. But there is a human limit to civility. When civility is returned with discourtesy at every turn, you get the impression that you are dealing with extremists whose ideas though noble, bear with it the seal of tyrannical brigandage. A case of: It is either my way or the highway. It is quite possible to deal with the dirty issues without a recourse to gutter polemics. If we shout ourselves hoarse from now till kingdom come, we will end up making no appreciable difference in the lives of our people back home who daily endure the indignities of feeling unwanted in their fatherland, we will keep shortchanging our people back home who look up to us to raise the tone of agitation from empty fulmination to a result-oriented tenor. Considering our exposure and education, their confidence is not misplaced. I say we need to engage in robust brainstorming and critical soul-searching about our methods. A strong man is he who can accept faults and use that to make ammends.
Yet in contradiction, you claim to be against the policies of Aremu Obasanjo (see above), which according to the reality is the Awoist way that you support.
This has shown the reason why the co-existence of Igbos, Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis in Nigeria as constituted is doomed. And those who in Yorubaland who do not see this are clearly wrong.
The long term betterment of Oduduwa people is in an Oduduwa republic.
Insult within civility is not new to anybody that has read the Nigerian tabloid: The Guardian.
Ukaobasi has again shown that a pretence at civility is not all. And has flushed out another pretender.
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How dare you say that, Anioma, as a people "will hitch its wagon to those who want a political and economic system that permits them to live freely, participate unhindered in commerce, education and the construction of a country that the can compete with any other country in the world."
You mean that they, the people of Anioma, do not know how to seek self-determination? So, the agitatation for the State of Anioma is nothing to you.
What are you talking about? Are you currently enrolled in Economics 101 and trying to put some economic terms together?
Answer the following questions: 1. Benbella, what form of political system is Nigeia practicing?
2. What form of economic system is Nigeria practicing?
3. Is the current political and economic systems limiting any group from living freely?
4. Is your Anioma people better of with a landlocked State of Biafra that will not include the whole of former Eastern Region?
Man, you need to go and sit down under an Iroko tree and find more of isi ewu and palm wine to cool off for the day. You are sounding drunk and do not know what you are talking about.
Well, due to the fact that you do not share and recongize the self-determination efforts of the good people of Anioma, you are therefore, considered irrelevant to this debate.
Have a good day.
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Rick my friend just shut up!. The nauseating pungent smell from your mouth even permeats cyberspace. Imagine this depraved imbecile deficating in our house?. Don't u have any fear?. Do you even know what areas will constitute anioma state you bloody moron?. Last time I checked, the state was supposed include only Igbo areas of delta state as well as parts of Igbo south east. I wonder why?. Moderators pls I implore you to lock out this idiot.
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I had earlier considered you, irrelevant. However, I'm forced to respond due to your ignorance and stupidity.
First of all, I am not your friend. I came here not to seek friendship with no one because, I want to be an independent and unbiased poster.
Secondly, it is you, that need to shup up, due to your ignorance and lack of manners.
According to Ogbunigwe, I quote, "Last time I checked, the State of Anioma supposed to include areas of South East(Biafra)"
Well, here is his Ogbunigwe's stupidity and ignorance. He argues that, while the landlocked future Biafran State wants to include all parts of Delta Igbo as part of Biafra, then, the future Anioma State of Delta Igbo, also wants to include parts of their future Biafran State. It this argument not silly? Anyway, his assertion are not true.
Again, you are irrelevant to this debate because of your pure ignorance and stupidity in your arguments.
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This one don pass man again oh! Which one una dey sef? Me I think say una be brothers ke! Una dey remind me of Bruce Willis movie wey come dey nak Biafra song:
"We are Biafra fighting for our freedom By the name of Jesus, we shall conquer!"
Na wah!
Abo mi reo!
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I'm not pissed off. I am very calm. That man should have driven his points home without cursing.
The fact is that, I am not even against their Biafran dream. So, why all theses hostilities?
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Rick the fool, You don't know how silly you sound. My asserstion didn't make sense to you because of your scanty knowledge of the subject matter. So you never knew that Ogbaru and other areas around Onitsha were supposed to be part of that state?. Please reveal to us what areas would constitute the Anoima state u've been harping upon like a lunatic. Look at the clueless buffoon calling somebody ignorant. If u are not against Igbo self determination then why are you concerned?. Don't worry because you and your vulturistic ethnic group won't have others to prey upon. The time will come when u will either become slaves or shed your yellow bellied nature. I'm sure u are afraid being left alone to deal with the northern jihadists. Well too bad, Nigeria is on life support and when it becomes to your tents oh Isreal we know where the various peoples will pitch their tents. Anyway, we'll know when you awake from your trance.
No. Rick is an Igbo probably from Anioma, but a victim of nigerian crude propaganda. He speaks yoruba and is now a self-hating Igbo idiot.
Rick-the-idiot, you still haven't given us the proof that Biafra is land-locked. Not that it matters: land-locked or not, Igbo/Biafra will still be far ahead of the backward cultures that surround it.
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To that I say at least we are making progress. But you, Rick, you really assault my patience and I guess, those of others, with your ignorance about a subject you appear passionate about.
Amadi O
You wrote in response to Ogbunigwe as follows:
"No. Rick is an Igbo probably from Anioma, but a victim of nigerian crude propaganda. He speaks yoruba and is now a self-hating Igbo idiot."
I really doubt that Rick is from Anioma. He may turn out to be but I am yet to meet an Anioma person who will go out of his or her way to exhibit on a large scale such ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge. People will wonder what village he came from. But then again, I could be wrong.
As for this:
"Igbo/Biafra will still be far ahead of the backward cultures that surround it."
I ask what is the point? Are you now buying Rick's argument? Do you know how many people you may have turned off by that statement? I think we should be careful of the words we use. Because words are not merely words. They represent significant moments and events. Just thought I should bring this to your attention. Besides, I have always enjoyed reading your postings - often brief and clear. That was until now. Enjoy!
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
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