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as rudolf has failed to make any impact on the lib4eration of biafra he has decided to sell his services to mbanefo who is rumoured to gotten a 1 million dollar war chest to destroy massob and anything to do with biafra. mean while who knows if he is paying his nigerian workers . so my friend take heart we know your true colours so keep the good work up maybe you will get a raise .the enemy you know is better than the one you dont know . by the way I heard that uwazurike was not only with one woman but 20 do you want to investigate this mister reporter.you are just like the little boy who writes the names of noise makers without the teacher asking
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I am not surprised that Rudolf would be used to sabotage Biafra. he ios a latter day Ifeajuna. I thought his involvement in the -Boycott the two MASSOBs- thread was rather inordinate. he thought he smelled the blood of Biafra, and it was time to go in for the kill. That was why I left Biafra Foundation alone. I did not want to play into the hands of Rudolf and Mbanefo. It seems that Damian was about to expose Rudolf before Rudolf ran away from that thread.
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So, Rudolf has accepted 30-pieces of sliver to betray our people, No wonder he kept bragging about some article that he was going to write. Shame on you, Rudolf.
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redek30may: rudek30may, or whatever you call yourself, why are you all over Rudolf's case? Obviously, it's becoming personal and at the same time becoming scary. Let sleeping dog lie-o.
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Are you Biafrans just jealous? Rudolf is an Igbo product of Yoruba education. We educated Rudolf in Ondo state. That is why he can see things without the blind biases that so many of you have. What you need is some of the Yoruba enlightenment that has made Rudolf better than many of you. Some of you will also take the money if it was offered to you. That is the Nigerian way.
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I hope that Rudolf is not stupid enough to lend his services, for whatever they are worth, to the destruction of Igbo people. If he attempts that, we shall be here to chaperone him to the ruin of his career. But, some things are starting to make sense in light of these revelations. For example, read this exchange between Damian and Rudolf.
Evidently, Rudolf could no longer pretend that he was a quiet supporter of the Biafra struggle. It was important to his handlers that he put himself on record as not being involved in the Biafran struggle. From that moment forward, anyone planning any Biafran project should only invite Rudolf if he wishes to see that project sabotaged. He has all but announced himself to be a traitor or potential traitor.
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If you are not involved in the Biafran struggle, why do you keep seeking to be relevant to Biafrans? You should go to ebeomooduduwa.com and use it as your audience. You are a confused man without a base.
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Okonkwo should be seen as a voice of disent in the sea of despondency that is this forum
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The good news is that you cant miss what you never had, and a man who is for sale, is not the type of person whom we seek. He is just another corrupt Nigerian, who can be bought or sold, if the price is right. Such people have no vision, no honour, no integrity, and are good for one thin only to be exiled from biafra.
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It is a wrong move to drop the pressure on Biafra Foundation or the MASSOBs. Rudolf may be a traitor, but that is no reason for us to stop insisting on accountability from the people who claim to lead the struggle. If Biafra Foundation and MASSOB are not forthcoming with explanations of the questions raised, we should call on Igbo people everywhere to boycott them. We cannot allow supposed Biafran groups to hoodwink us this early in the game. If they are hoping that this matter will simply fizzle out, they will be disappointed. I will not let this issue go away. No Igbo should send any money to these groups until they explain what they did with the money they collected so far. To simply ask Igbos to raise money and then turn around to waste that money is not acceptable. It is not just about money either. All the other questions asked must be answered.
I've silently watched what has taken place on this thread over the last few days. You made a disturbing accusation. It is disturbing because not only did you not provide evidence, but your other readers and commentators have jumped on it, and condemned Rudolf. Now, from efulefu, he has graduated to being called a traitor. On what grounds? Show one piece of evidence. What day did he allegedly met Mr. Mbanefo? How much did he collect? When did he offer his services?
I'm truly frightened by the view of justice, innocence and approach to "innocent until proven guilty" on this board. A man is free to disagree with his countrymen and women, but does that make him a traitor? Does this mean that in Biafra, dissent will not be tolerated? I read with dismay Mr. Uwazuruike's recent press release that he is greater than MASSOB and Biafra. When juxtaposed with the approach to justice being bandied around here, I tremble for the future; I do not want to replace the judicial arbitrariness of Nigeria with that of Biafra.
Tyranny is contrary to the spirit of Biafra expressed by the Ahiara Declaration, the 1999 Aba Declaration and broadcasts on Voice of Biafra. Justice does not begin in the law courts; it begins in how we treat each other. It begins in the witness we bear towards each other; it begins in our hearts. If any man or woman truly knows Rudolf to be a traitor to Biafra, then by God, present the evidence. To falsely accuse a man or woman is not only wrong, but unjust and brings disrespect to the Biafran cause. Biafrans are honorable people; lets keep it that way.
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If an Igbo big fish like Mbanefo has accepted $1 million to betray his own people, why are we focusing on a small fry like Rudolf Okonkwo? With all due respect to Rudolf, any damage that he is capable of doing to the Biafra cause can be undone in less than five seconds, right here at this forum. If Mr. Mbanefo is truly involved, it is his likes that we should focus our energy on. Rudolf is nothing in this regard.
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Whether Mr. Mbanefo accepted $1M or not, it is an irrelevant issue because he is an ambassador of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. His job is to represent the Nigerian government and its worldview, however distateful or repulsive that view might be to Biafrans. If we revisit the basics, perhaps all this odd shadow boxing will not be necessary. How, pray tell me, can Biafrans fight and win a war when they are confused about basic things such as the role of an ambassador? Lets focus on the real battle, not rumor fired shadow boxing with non-issues.
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Chike, you contradict yourself when you write as follows,
quote:Adaeze and others: Whether Mr. Mbanefo accepted $1M or not, it is an irrelevant issue because he is an ambassador of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. His job is to represent the Nigerian government and its worldview, however distateful or repulsive that view might be to Biafrans. If we revisit the basics, perhaps all this odd shadow boxing will not be necessary. How, pray tell me, can Biafrans fight and win a war when they are confused about basic things such as the role of an ambassador? Lets focus on the real battle, not rumor fired shadow boxing with non-issues.
If you believe that Mr. Mbanefo is entitled to define his role as ambassador to include undermining Biafrans, his own people, upon what basis do you then deny us, as Biafrans, the right to define our own worldview to include undermining Mr. Mbanefo? Read yourself,
quote:[B]ecause he is an ambassador of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. His job is to represent the Nigerian government and its worldview,
If Mr. Mbanefo believes that he, an Igbo, is free to accept a role that includes accepting $1M to destroy Biafrans, then you can be sure that he is not entitled to any peace or deferential treatment from Biafrans. By the way, if this Mbanefo man is the son of Sir Louis Mbanefo, then his own family should be denouncing him too, as he is desecrating the memory of his great late father.
It is the duty of all Biafrans to denounce any views and anyone who elects to become an instrument for propagating views that are ""distasteful or repulsive" to Biafrans. How could you even think otherwise? It is a matter of self-defense. No Igbo should accept a job from Nigeria as ambassador or anything else if it is clear that part of his job description is to destroy Igbos. If an Igbo accepted the job before its anti-Igbo description became clear to him, he should immediately resign once he discovers that he has been asked to destroy his own people. Sir Lewis Mbanefo, the father of this baby Mbanefo, could have stayed back in Nigeria and become a saboteur. Instead, he went to Biafra and served as Chief Justice of Biafra. It is his integrity that this unprincipled son is destroying, if indeed he has accepted money to fight against Biafrans.
Upon what basis do you propose that we accord this man any respect when he has accepted money to champion a worldview that proposes our destruction? We are in our current predicament precisely because till now we have tolerated your type of excuses for those Igbos who think they are entitled to kill other Igbos in the name of upholding "the Nigerian government and its worldview."
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I have a very difficult time understanding any type of soldiers in this world, who intend to defeat their adversaries by shooting at themselves first. I thought the duty of forumites like those here is to package and present Biafra to the world in a most convincing way. That will result to the world standing with us in support of our course to actualise the new nation. Even the most powerful country in the world today, in trying to fight a weak and hungry nation like Afghanistan had to do a great deal of public relations and diplomatic moves to gain support of the rest of the world. Are we on this web wiser than the most powerful country in the world today ? Even God in his vantage position of might and power said to frail mankind; "Come let us reason together" in the book of Isaiah. Who is man for God to seek reasoning together with him, yet he did. Our course is just, but I am not seeing any reasoning together or consciousness of what the world will perceive from the utterances, abuses, in-fighting and endless name calling of ourselves. Sometimes, all of a sudden we resort to bringing up old names that we had disagreed with in the past just to continue our endless abuses. No matter how just we may be, if we do not possess the wisdom of how to actualise Biafra, then let us think again as we may be killing instead of actulising it. This is not how the Jews actualised Israel. Again Biafra is bigger than any one Biafran, but if in a furry of a very lethal blow on the movement and in human error the leader makes a statement in which he claims that he is bigger than Biafra, that he can be pardoned for and corrected. It is good to know that a structure is being set up to handle MASSOB issues. A good leader is one that solves the prevailing number one problem of his or her people. Biafra needs to be actualised through a feasible reasonable process.
I'm not and will not deny Biafrans the right to define and defend their worldview. My point is simple: Mr. Mbanefo is not the enemy. Strike at the head, and its messengers and limbs will wither away. Kapische? Cutting off a finger will not stop the heart of Nigeria. Cut it off at the head. It is the perennial problem that pops up on this board: a focus on shadow targets, while the real ones strengthen.
Don’t worry smart cookies like Rudek30may, War Against Indiscipline, Regina, Jude Olisa, Igbondeewo etc. Those guys are geniuses, cloned and delivered without an expiration date.
They miss me so much they have to find a way to provoke me. I am so frail that I do not see myself returning to their paradise in my current emotional state.
I am not going to truncate this fun. If this is really important, Amanda will come out of hibernation and speak. It isn’t tempting enough. Not even Biafra’s favorite investigative journalist, TB, will fall for this.
So, I am not going to spoil their wonderful assertion with one of my usual stupid responses. Why should I? I have got my check. My job is done and I’ve got to go and do other important jobs. Jubril might have a bigger assignment for me, so why sit here arguing with certified eggheads.
They have figured the world out and soon, they are going to get it. Just wait and see!
Chike, let them have fun. Remember, "Malice is like a game of poker or tennis; you don't play it with anyone who is manifestly inferior to you."- Spiel Hilde
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My point is simple: Mr. Mbanefo is not the enemy. Strike at the head, and its messengers and limbs will wither away. --- chike
Chike: I beg to disagree, in part. If Mbanefo were Bola Ige or Lateef Jakande, then your maxim, "Strike at the head, and its messengers and limbs will wither away" might hold. Jakande and Bola Ige would be the messengers and limbs of the same cancerous body.
It is a little different when the limb does not belong to the body whose head you have cut off. This is how Biafrans must view the likes of Mnanefo. Mbanefo may not be "the enemy." But, if he is working with Obasanjo and Nigeria to undermine Biafra, then he is an enemy, and he is no less dangerous than Nigeria itself. We can cut off Nigeria's head as well as give notice to Igbos that sabotage will not be tolerated. We can do both.
In the case of Mr. Mbanefo, enough of this story has circulated for him to make a public statement about it. We are the ones that pay his salary after all, and he owes us an explanation. I will be sending him a letter demanding exactly such clarification.
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Rudolf Okonkwo: I do not think that you have to invoke my name in order to make your points. I have nothing whatsoever against anybody, and I don't think my name should be used in your political rivalry and discourse.
Put me out of this, please.
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chike: What Mbanefo does with my letter is his business. But, when he steps out to do what Obasanjo has commanded him to do, he will be finished off politically. That is a promise. There were also people who said that Obasanjo did not care what we said about him in this forum. Now, even a fool knows that we have become a thorn in his flesh to the point that he is preoccupied with Biafra.
As for all this talk of yours about striking the head, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? Where is the beef? Are you going to strike the head by encouraging the likes of Mbanefo to do as they please with Biafrans so as to advance what you call the Nigerian "worldview?" Let us hear what you have to say. Ngwa! Over to you. Drain the water, and dry the fish to death.
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chike: Obasanjo knows better than to ask any Yoruba ambassador to go after OPC's international network. If an Igbo in New York agrees to be used to fight Biafrans, then that Igbo will have a lot of trouble from us. It is as simple as that. If you know this Mbanefo man in person, be kind to him and pass the message on.
Adaeze: Please, send the letter to Mr. Mbanefo, and let him go ahead and put it in the trash can. All we need is the record that he did so. When Obasanjo and the Yoruba/Hausa-Fulani turn on him, we will make him fish that letter out and read it.
I must say, I admire Chike's approach to debates and issues, however, regarding Mr Ambassador depositing your letter in his dustbin, I have another idea.
In addition to your private letter to Mr Ambassador, write an open letter to him and Mr President and get it published in the U.S-Nigerian/U.S press, if at all possible.
I can assure you Mr Ambassador will have no alternative but to read!
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chike, For your information, the war against indiscipline will be fought within Biafra. It has nothing to do with BiafraNigeria. As a matter of fact, we want the Nigerians to remain undisciplined. That makes our job easier.
What this means is that if Rudolf goes from Igbo efulefu to Igbo traitor he will be fought like a traitor. The same goes for the traitor, Mbanefo. This is an all-front war. Any resource spent to protect Biafrans from efulefu or Igbo traitors is a resource well spent.
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