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Yara Wasa Bature
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In about a couple of months, this magnificent forun will be celebrating its first year anniversary of a message board, so controversial, and with its history of violence and political impotence dating back from the Civil War-era, which was blamed on the North for the lack thereof, taking appropriate measures, in building a nation-state, and the ominous consequences that came thereafter--the internal strife--did we learn any lesson from those events?

The case of Biafra is classic. But would a Biafra as in Damian, Ambrose, Ejiofor, Amanda, Ohafia, Chiboy, Dikeanatuegwu, Ojoto, Osetutu, Africanwest, Igbondeewo, Ijeomannuntu, Biafra, Ukaoha, Emela, Nwa Aro, Amucha 1, MASSOB Spokeperson, Egwuatu Ozoemena, Nobiora, Chike, Adaeze, and many others, not know that they are indeed fighting a lost cause?

The case of radicals is not even far-fetched. They just want to belong.

And the new Biafran Republic had been envisioned long time ago. But, the loopholes persists which entails the vulnereabilty of you having no other option than diologue and diplomacy in that regard.

And I hope you guys put your acts together!

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Yara, I read your post, but your point is not clear.
I can however, reassure you that we are not interested in either dialogue or diplomacy with Nigeria.

We have put on our boots, and our knapsacks are strapped to our backs, and we are hiking out.
If that sounds radical to you, then so be it.

We offer no apologies nor do you have a right to expect an explanation other than that our people are following their own wishes, which coincidentally, are diametrically opposed to yours.


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Yara Wusa Bature, I'm lost. What in the devil are you saying? You started well with the first few sentences and took a dive about 180 degrees to jargons. If you copy other people's speeches try and be creative with it. Try again

Hail Biafra


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Folks,

This pathetic bum can't even string words together to make a sentence in English language. Why dignify this discordant amalgam of meaningless stereotype buzz words with some reply? The next you know, his equally despicable alter ego, Adamu will join in this macabre celebration of mediocrity.

But then folks, who has not wondered what an Awusa man would be doing as a relative nonentity in the abject ignominy of the Diaspora while he could effortlessly have his paradise of innumerable virgins in Nigeria thanks to Biafran resources? Simple: he is a sick perverted deviant whose tastes cannot be satiated by all the rape, sodomy, pedophilia, etc. that are common place in his Nigeria. Its only Yasa that can tell us for example what vice engendered the high he was on while making the above wothless verbiage.


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Folks:
There is no political jargon in what I've said, so far. My comment was very simple: What have you guys achieved so far? It is as simple as that.

Anu Nti:
I hear you, and on that note, you must be aware that action speaks louder than words. And, that's the case of you radical Biafrans.

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: Yara Wasa Bature ]

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Anu Nti:
You blow that big grammar and yet the talakawas are still in charge. Ask Machiavelli. How about that?

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Bature:

Are you sure you finished grade school? Your writing leaves much to be desired.


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Anu Nti:

It is not my problem that you cannot understand what Bature has written. Whatever the case, Bature is more coherent and articulate than your resident dummy, Mr. Biafra, who cannot make one proper English sentence.


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Ugali or whatever that goddamned name means, actually not your typical Awusa or Mallam. "You blow that grammar yet the Awusa man is in charge" obviously this question or statement was directed to the distinquished and gentlemanly Anu Nti.

BIG QUESTION:

What is the essence of being in charge when your are the most backward in all simple/basic needs? Read Animal Farm. The PIGS were in charge and they lacked nothing but eventually were ran over for being greed. You are not in the Animal Farm or in the real world. The only thing you have that is distinctive but destructive is your satanic religion. A university graduate in the North is equal to a Higher school student in Biafra[East]. You live a culture of false pretense [JIHAD]. We the Igbos see an average Hausa as filths.

Here are just some deficiencies you have instinctively grown into and you claim to be in charge. I wonder who gave you that impression?

Social Welfare
Education
Technology
Humanity
Civility
Health

And yet your in charge?

Hail Biafra


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Bature:

I just saw your thread.

Firstly, could you be exact with the following: “...and with its history of violence and politics impotence dating back from the Civil War-era,..” ?

Bature wrote: “The case of radicals is not even far-fetched. They just want to belong”.

Wrong, since my name was mentioned, do I also want to belong? Sorry, pal, I don’t need to belong and make myself relevant. Come again :-)

Bature asked, “ What have you guys achieved so far?”

I will answer that with taking you a year back. I dare contend that a year ago, due to ignorance, indifference, intrigue as Machiavellian - courtesy Ughali :-) would love it and greed etc, generation(s) of Igbos grew up after the civil war, ignorant of their history.

Thanks to Biafranigeriaworld, and lets not forget Odili.net, more and more Ndiigbo’s are getting wise up and before you know it the word “efulefu” will be a non-issue.

The achievement of the New Biafrans as they are called is in the education of the above ignorant, greedy masses. We are talking of over 60% Ndiigbo. So the activities of these New Biafrans have just begun and are an ongoing process. When Jim Nwobodo’s and his ilk have been made pariahs in Igbo land, and the Igbo’s stop playing second fiddle, I will then consider their activities almost accomplished. Not that I interpret the word Radical negatively, but I am an emeritus (just in case) you must know.

To compound the achievement of the New Biafrans, I will mention MASSOB. Initially, the so-called Igbo elite did not take them seriously; I submit MASSOB deserves a Noble price for what they have done to the Igbo psyche. Therein lies of the biggest achievements of MASSOB and the Radical Biafrans.

You concluded thus, “But the loopholes persists which entails the vulnerability of you having no other option than dialogue and diplomacy in that regard”.

I hope you are not trying to insult our intelligence. From all indications, it seems the Arewa and their lackey in the person of the President, are the ones reluctant to dialogue. SNC is yet to be taken seriously in that part of the country. For those that don’t subscribe to SNC, what alternative have they proffered?

Like it or not, it is the so called Biafran Radicals that will unshackle and liberate the peoples of the East of the Niger, and their Delta siblings, “they sure will prevail”; I only hope it will be in my life time. Take my word; it is just a question of time.

PS: Just this last Saturday, I was in the company of Yoruba buddy that was very active in NADECO days. When asked, what he thought of the possible involvement of the presidency in the killing of Bola Ige.

He replied, after IBB and Abacha’s era anything is possible. More precisely, he does not know what to believe.

What if the presidency is involved? I hope you realise the consequence!


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Nkem:
Of all the noises, claims of academic excellence, political superiority, power-mongering and the talkatives who came out spewing their nonsense, despite their academic and political prowess, you were the only one that understood the point I was trying to make; and if vague, you asked questions rather than throwing insults.

And, of course, I give it to you. That's the mark of good leadership.

But let's go back and take another close look at how all these mess began. Granted the fact that you fought a losing war, and knowing you were desperately outnumbered and defeated in said war, and as the case was, don't you think the victor would have made you live in settlement than be part of the Reconstruction era? Am I ambiguous here, again?

But as in humankind, the war was declared "No Victor, No Vanquished" asking all and sundry to help rebuild a nation battered by thirty months or so of internal strife and civil war. My question to you now is, why did you not continue with your quest of sovereignty, and make your case known then, rather than emerging with the same brouhaha after over twenty years when the walls start tumbling down, again? Did Ojukwu continue with his quest for Biafra while in exile? And why didn't he finish what he started even if it took his life?

When I said "they want to belong," I meant the writers and talkatives who love their hobby for its sake. They don't mean what they write or say. It is just a hobby they adopted since the crackpot internet-era. Not that these internet crackpots have computers in their homes; they are enjoying this technology from the goodwill of organized societies--the public libraries, the schools and places of work.

On Anu Nti, I can see he is a frustrated and confused man. What intellectual that he claims to be would not understand my points of view regardless of the "grammatical" settings?

Finally, you lost a war, and your strategy would have been engaging your adversaries to mainstream Nigeria politics; and thereafter, being part of the political atmosphere which would in the long run justify your worthy causes without bloodshed or mayhem. But, you guys are not doing that. You are good at singling out a bad grammarian, a non contributor, an "efulefu," whatever that is, which consistently has been the problem.

Anu Nti has called me all kinds of names including the one he used recently, "pathetic." How reckless and confusing? Somebody who cannot take care of his own command as an intellectual, and yet he comes bodly to embarrass himself. That strategy does not argur well in organized societies. The intellectual is a fraction, maybe not, in effecting change. Go and get back your teaching credentials. That's where you belong. Period!

You all need a leader. I have not seen one here except Nkem for the time being.

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Nkem:
Again, I forgot to add one more thing relating to the question that you posed regarding my comment to your people's history of violence and political impotence which led to the struggle, so far.

In this instance, I would like to take you back to the first engineered Chukwuma "Kaduna" Nzeogwu-led coup of 1966 which in its aftermath led to the mass killings of the Ibos in retaliation to the brutal murder of Ahmadu Bello, followed by the assassinations of other Northern elites in a quest to make the Ibo nation the master race.

But, too bad, you underestimated the Northerners you derided as never-do-well. Where are we now?

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Yara = Adamu = Ugali,

Why are you dim wits hung up on "intellectual"? Go through my posts and single out even one where I laid claims to academic excellence for myself. I have praised that excellence in other people and I have derided the lack of same in mediocres who want to hold themselves up as standards. The former obviously to encourage others to aspire to such heights and the latter to point out to the less discerning that that's not the way to go. You got some problems with that, too bad.

Biafrans lost the war and yet Biafra is the most developed part of the Nigerian fraud.
Biafra lost the war and yet clean kobo for clean kobo, Biafrans are by far the richest.
Biafrans lost the war, yet by far Biafrans are the most educated, have the greatest access to medicare, have the greatest access to potable water, have the best schools, live in the best homes, have the most cohesive families, etc. etc.
Biafrans lost the war yet Nigerians have to use quota system to hold Biafrans down.
Make JAMB exams really universal and lets see how many students north of the Benue get into Universities, yet they are the sons and daughters of victors.
Biafrans lost the war yet our children didn't need the aberration of NECO to save us from the yearly embarassment of WASC and GCE results.
Victors, indeed.


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<<In this instance, I would like to take you back to the first engineered Chukwuma "Kaduna" Nzeogwu-led coup of 1966 which in its aftermath led to the mass killings of the Ibos in retaliation to the brutal murder of Ahmadu Bello, followed by the assassinations of other Northern elites in a quest to make the Ibo nation the master race.

But, too bad, you underestimated the Northerners you derided as never-do-well. Where are we now >>

It is unfortunate that up till date people have refused to accept the truth about what happened in 1966 during the first coup. It is very disingeneous of those that keep harping on "Igbo coup" when over and over and over the happenings then have been made known by the parties involved. One truth that cannot be denied any longer is that the first coup plotters were nationalists and not tribalists. Their intervention is now known to have been with a plan to install Awolowo into Presidency.

So for how long and how many times will these facts be stated for people to stop repeating this old and dangerous lie that caused holocust to be visited upon Nd'Igbo.Must the lie continue in other to sustain reasons to continue the act.

We know that there will never be an apology.
But quit the continuous lies !!!!

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Emela:
All in all, do you have any explanations to the brutal murder of Ahmadu Bello and Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa?

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The civilized murder of both Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Bellewa were justifiable homicide. Satisfied?

Hail Biafra


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Is civilized societies justifying murder?
Oh yeah! Never knew you were that cold.

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: Yara Wasa Bature ]

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Bature:

I take your compliments, however it is difficult not to be polemical in my response, but I shall try.

You wrote:

“But as in humankind, the war was declared "No Victor, No Vanquished" asking all and sundry to help rebuild a nation battered by thirty months or so of internal strife and civil war. My question to you now is, why did you not continue with your quest of sovereignty, and make your case known then, rather than emerging with the same brouhaha after over twenty years when the walls start tumbling down, again?”

Recall, after the second world war, the Germans were helped to their feet with the Marshall Plan, today we all know what that meant for Germany. Japan also were defeated, she too is a power to be reckoned with.

But in Nigeria, those defeated Biafrans that were lucky - got £20. Instead of capitalising on Biafrans RAP, the Federal government made it a duty to destroy everything Biafran (rocketry etc). The entire scientist’s were left to rotten. They could have been kept intact. It is difficult for you to phantom or to make you understand the loss. Had Nigeria not taken such a parochial action, we could have given countries like Taiwan, Singapore et al. a distance. Rather we lag 50 years behind them.

I cannot speak for The Ikemba, but my take is that he did not continue with his quest for Biafra while in exile and after his return, because like most Igbo’s he also bought the idea of the RRR.

Rather than 3R’s, we see the East of the Niger NO GO area for all Federal Institutions. I have never used the word marginalisation, but often when I discuss with Igbo’s they tell me tales of not wanted. BTW, I abandoned Nigeria in January 1973.

An example: last weekend I was discussing Jerry Gana, Atiku et al. rubbishing Ndiigbo for not going to school with an Igbo in his 30's. To my surprise, he told me of how the quota system forced him to travel to India to study law. It happened to many Igbo students. Worse case was when some of them got to where they were suppose to study (outside the east of cos), were told no vacancy. In fact, although he had never heard of the Biafranigeriaworld.com, yet his experiences rhyme with what most Igbo’s in their 30’s you encounter in this forum. Those ministers’s apparently in tune with a worked out agenda by the present administration have taken to distorting facts, insulting the Ibo’s and their leaders. I understand most of them accused of “buying and selling” are graduates.

What I am trying to say is that many of my siblings actually gave the 3R’s a shot, but in return it turned out to be - permit my use of word - SOS (same old sh..). If in doubt revisit your history before the war, and check what is going on in Nigeria today.

Do you really believe it is political impotence that led to the struggle, the coup? Whom are we talking of?

Now, I don’t know how old you are, fact is I was a lad in January 15, 1966 in Kano, I experienced Biafra. Therefore, I must say I have a quarrel with you trying to insinuate the coup was an all Igbo coup. I don’t hope for you that you really believe that.

Listen to yourself - Bature: “In this instance, I would like to take you back to the first engineered Chukwuma "Kaduna" Nzeogwu-led coup of 1966 which in its aftermath led to the mass killings of the Ibos in retaliation to the brutal murder of Ahmadu Bello, followed by the assassinations of other Northern elites in a quest to make the Ibo nation the master race”.
Granted, Ahmadu Bello and some other Northern elites were killed in 1966. Pray, tell me if that justified the northern revenge pogrom on Igbo/Eastern civilians!

You spoke of “a quest to make the Ibo nation the master race”. Ha ba Bature! In January 1966, who headed the military, head of state was Igbo, the speaker was Igbo, civil service et al. The Igbo’s were top notches in most Ministries etc., were they not? In the East, Okpara’s region was the 6th fastest growing economy in the world. Technology, his vision was The Trans Amadi Layout in Port Harcourt (permit me if was not called that), the Technical University in PH etc.
And it is now an open secret that they wanted to bring Awolowo (a Yoruba man) to power. So where is the quest to make the Igbo nation the master race?

Is the following your phantom, because I still don’t get it “...your people's history of violence”?

I thought the violence started in the West.

The call for re-actualisation of Biafra is something you can never understand. It has to do with the knowledge of what Biafra could have become. They were not allowed to try it; hence it is still an alternative.

What you call “... claims of academic excellence, political superiority...” I’ll call the realisation that with the constellation of Nigeria nation, it will continue to be one step forward, three steps backwards. I cannot see that improving within the next 50 years - can you?

Bature, if I were you, I would try understanding why many Igbo youths 33 years after the civil war are willing to pull out of Nigeria. It is callous and insensitive of the power that is to think it is just a joke. You’d be surprised when you discover the calibre of people you are dealing with. For a starter, try and wear their shoes - it might worth its while.

Come to think of it, if you knew, I dare say, you wouldn’t have asked the Radical Biafrans why their: “... quest of sovereignty, and make your case known then, rather than emerging with the same brouhaha after over twenty years when the walls start tumbling down, again?”

Concluding, I’d say precisely Bature that is what they have done since the end of the civil war. Are Igbo’s not in all corners of the country investing? Even, without resolving the abandoned property issue. The east with its resources is a major contributor to Nigeria’s economy, yet you have the worse federal roads in east, no International airport in Igbo-land. The list can go on, and on...


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Nkem,
What a fine reply, excellent.
Now where is the sex starved bastard Bature.

Bature,
Enough of the insults. You must be smoking something for you to expect us to listen to your trash. Since when were you given the right to tell us where we belong. Look here my friend, we are Biafrans not Nigerians. Get it,you low life gworo eater.

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Odili:
You are an SOB if you indeed have problems with what I have been emphasizing earlier on. Go get alife!

Life, indeed itself, is too short and I hope you play it hard. Got it?

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Bature Bature

You are a typical Awusa Nigeria, which is exactly the problem with that abomination called Nigeria.

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we will not fallter, we will not fail,in all we have got what it takes to make a great nation and great African nation Biafra will be. we are Christians, we are civilised,we are industrius, we shall succsed.
BATURE AND CO
don't try to insult the inteligence of a people that ofcourse you know that they are better than you,the most stupid igbo man migthy as well be more clever than you all.
Wisdom is a gift from GOD (if you belive) and he gives that to whosoever he wants to give. infact, God out of his will has adundantly blessed the Igbos and made them blessings to the rest of Africa. the problem with Nigeria is thatIgbo is gift from God that they failed to recognise and also to Africa and black race but out of cheer envy Nigerians are suppressing them. the hour is now for libaration,Fr Emefiene Ezeani said it all when he said that the occasion has called for madness and mad we shall be. I guess you people(BATURE&CO)can not be so foolish not to see the Igbo courage in face of what we are passing by, do you think that by all this injustice you can put off the fire that is flowing in the blood of igbo youths? no we shall previal.

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Okwy,

Bien venido aca! Que tal, hombre? Como van las cosas en Santiago? A mi, me gustaria mucho estar alla contigo disfrutando el vino Chileano, ademas las chicas son hermosisimas!

Que estes bien. Un abrazo, hermanito.


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Gracias amigo,
estoy supre bien aqui,la chicas tambien es herumosa, yo quiero que Dios nos ayude para nuestros camino
esperamos hermano

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He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku

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Anu Nti
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Okwy,

Estoy en acuerdo de ti. Que Dios nos ayuda para que no se pierde uno.

Estamos hablando. Dios te bendiga y Chaito


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Jude Olisa
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Okwy:

Welcome to BiafraNigeriaWorld. 'wish I could say in Spanish. But, it looks like Bro. Anu Nti has done the honors. Nno!


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Ohafia Udumeze
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Hermano Okwy,

Dios te bendiga Y Dios te guardia!

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Awo's political idea was based on the assumption that any town beyond Owo was Igbo or Hausa. Awo was not socialised; he was not a good mixer because he did not have the opportunity, which the secondary school offered. ~TOS Benson, Baba Oba of Lagos


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Odili