I talk nicely to you; therefore, I hope you’d reciprocate. That being the case I’d appreciate you don’t call my CIC Ikemba a warlord, and using Ibo instead of Igbo – thanks in advance.
Now, I see you elegantly tried to belittle my analogy with Germany; instead you referred to the US. Permit me to disagree with you. By share coincidence, I saw an article written by an Igbo brother whom I hope would not mind me picking some of his assertion.
On the pace of development 32 years after, he went through memory lane how as a toddler he experienced Biafra. Hear him: “Yesterday it was the telephone circuitry. Last year it was the putting the entire Alaigbo into darkness for several days. It took the threat of legal action by the Enugu Chamber of Commerce before power was restored to the Southeast. And now we have lost very young people under an avoidable circumstance. And I look back and I ask, how much price remains to be paid? Sometimes, I ask, was this not the land where as a toddler, Okoko Ndem's voice never went off the air even amidst air raids? I ask, was this not the land where as a toddler, I witnessed water flowing and electricity shinning in new locations within 24 hours of relocating operational commands of the War of Survival efforts? Was this not the land where as a toddler, I could look across from what remained of my ancestral compound (after those mean Egyptian Pilots dropped their agents of death on us), and see fumes in the air, from those ingenious mini refineries, assuring our folks that they will have fuel for their campaigns the next day? If our forebears did all that, in very difficult times, why can't we do more in these times?” He forgot it was a feat that the Biafrans could produce SALT.
Did you notice it was 32 years ago?
On energy supply, he wrote: “…South-East as always, was getting the least from the load allocation based on the limited generation. For those who do not know, NEPA system is a grid one. All generations from Afam (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv); Egbin in Lagos State, Delta (i) and (ii), Sapele Power Station, Kainji and Shiroro are pulled to the National Control Centre (NCC). The NCC is based in Oshogbo, a town that more people will get to know about with time on account of the revelations of a 'Fryo.' At the NCC all the generations are synchronised and from here loads are allocated to various transmitting stations around the failed State. The chaps who work at the NCC, you can guess where they are predominantly from, are like lords. So they can knock your area off if you exceed your load allocation.”
Bature, you might start wondering how come I have not addressed Asika contra Ogbemudia et al. Although I am not a great fan of his, and I am handicapped for data (remember I left Nigeria in 1973), nonetheless, one thing stands clear; unless the agenda changes the East will continue to remain the beggar zone of Nigeria.
From what I am told, the north will always on account of the many local governments (correct the term) get a major portion of the federal fund. The west is already sitting on the economy. The east gets a handout.
Unless, you can prove otherwise, I dare contend Asika got the crumps after his masters have had theirs. Back on the energy issue, fact is the north will always protect their interest hence it was important to remove Ige, after he removed the Sokoto-born MD that BTW was there to protect the interest of his people. The west on account of NCC based in Oshogbo Nigerian style of rational would protect the interest of their people. So the load allocation to the South -East is usually grossly inadequate leading to massive load shedding.
Who gets the crump? Southeast will be a good guess. My source further wrote, “That state of affairs has not changed. This is why more areas in the South-East are usually in darkness than any other part of the country.” Indeed Umuahia, the State Capital is always in darkness.
Are you getting my drift Bature? Like I said in my last posting, try and wear their shoes, else you can never comprehend their frustrations. For the simple fact that the energy/power strategy of the Nigerian state in the Southeast, hopeless infrastructure etc, frustrates every effort of any administration in the Southeast. You don’t need to be an Economic guru to realise they are all key parameters and very critical infrastructure required for industrial, agricultural and domestic applications.
I am tempted to ask you, what justifies the amount located to the North. Especially, as the amount of local governments decides how much is disbursed. Why should part of the north with tiny population be allocated more loads than southeast densely populated zones or even Lagos? Just thinking out loud!
posted
Nkem: In the seventies, I worked as an account clerk at Nigeria National Supply Company located on Trans-Amadi Industrial Layout, in Port Harcourt. My uncle was the general manager of this national distribution company, who was known as Alhaji. He retired in 1979 and one Okonkwo replaced him as general manager.
While there, I made friends--Ibos, Ijaws, Kalabaris, Ibibios, Edos, Itsekiris, Yorubas, Nupes, Ogonis, Ishans, Kwales, and many other ethnicities--too numerous for me to mention. I learned a lot.
The good part is, most of the friends I encountered at Nigeria National Supply Company, are here in the United States, doing the best out of a very bad situation, just to make ends meet. And that struggle continues which leaves one with wondering how to overcome the predicament of a troubled nation.
But I still give it to you, though. Listen to Amanda and Anu nti researching to find out what I am all about. Don't they have other things to do rather than following my foot Steps? A big time fraud as in Anu Nti is calling one a fraud. How amazing?
Clearly, I am no Ugali Shaga nor Adamu. That should settle the score.
But, coming to the point that you raised regarding me calling Ojukwu a warlord which seemingly raised your eyebrows wondering why in heavens places I uttered such a word or stereotype, normally used by Anu Nti, does it ever occur to you that the Ojukwu you have envisioned as your leader is just running a show of his own interest?
On the other hand, Amanda has engaged herself in figuring me out. Fine. But, I bet you, her digging would lead to no result.
On Anu Nti, again, his best choice is to quit dribbling before it becomes too late.
Is this meaningless rigmarole of a diatribe against Anu Nti your reply to Nkem's thesis? Characteristically mediocre. Chasing shadows in this case, my humble self. The honorable thing to do is match Nkem fact for fact, point by point. This time, he was joining issues with you on energy generation and distribution in Nigeria, stupid.
Who cares if your Uncle was the General Manager of whatever you claim he was in PH? You are what you are, simple. You want us to see you as having a family, even an Uncle, making haste to distance yourself from the rootless almajiri. We'd known that all along.
posted
Yara, make you just ask this obodo abunas, simple turenchi question: wetin dey go do pass all this katakata dem dey shout here? dem be empty barrels. Few ones among dem like Okonkwo wey get voice/face, dey don harrass that one pass, im sef don lef dem alone.dis ones no even know Ralph Obiora or Arthur Nwankwo, the ones wey be real Igbo radicals. Or the main man im sef, Emeka. we dey use style retake Igbo's right place for home,dis ones dey roar nonesense.see wetin de aviation minister dey do, she be the best minister today.yet here dis your friends stil dey yab the beautiful woman. Anyim, who be the longest serving senate prez since 99, dat one too dem dey hala am. did ones no know nothing...nothing at all
Posts: 18 | From: Gwadalaga | Registered: Dec 2001
| IP: Logged
Seriously, I am really getting tired of your diatribe. You have accused me of being a threesome, which means, I am Ugali Shaga and Adamu. You are dead wrong; and you need to look for other options in your quest to identify who the Bature is.
But Bature, as a matter of fact is one who knows you Ibo radicals as being vulnereable and gullible to a point engaging yourselves is becoming an epidemic.
Anu Nti, the bastardized Ibo intellectual who refused to see clearly a mandate in a quest for his struggle would try to convince other Ibos that, he is indeed making all efforts to come to terms with the new Biafra Republic.
Who is fooling who?
But I came to conclusion, though, that you are as fake as your portrayal can tell when you indeed do have problems matching my like to Adamu and Ugali Shaga. On that note, there is no question you derided yourself as a buffoon. And you still claim to be an intellectual.
So, what is it about all these intellectulism? Am I missing something? Intellectual, my ass. Think deeper and make a sense of your intellectualism.
There is every indication that you are another "Weakest Link." Think about it!
___________________ Yara Wasa Bature
Posts: 502 | From: Owasso, Oklahoma USA | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
In yet another pathetic display of the fact that you are congenitally bereft of originality, you have incredibly gone on to parrot my first sentence above, unbelievably yet true, as your first in the, for want of a better word, rebuttal. I will let that ride though, and leave others to place the mettle of which you are made.
However, what you cannot escape in spite of all the now tiresome insane inanities that you are wont to recycle over and over again, is this simple task: match Nkem Ejiofor's treatise with a well thought-out response. It requires no special abilities to curse and swear. Motor park touts who subsist on ganja and ogogoro are actually the experts in that. However, it takes a certain level of intelligence that has been nurtured into discernment to coherently articulate a viewpoint. Why can’t this get into your dense gray matter?
I have advised you to leave this intellectualism alone. I don’t see why you are pathologically hung up on it even though its apparent that no special certifiable skills are required to post views on this site (aside from common sense, which obviously is even in short supply). The more you harp on it, the more your mediocrity is brought to the fore. I have repeated one proverb to you twice already. I'll bend backwards and repeat it for the last time: there's no covering the bulge of a pregnant stomach with the palm. Our holy writ also admonishes us that "by their fruits, ye shall them". Need I say more?
posted
My Brother Anunti, why most you keep responding to this Bature,I think we have got more important issues to discuse.
I belive we are making progress on our quest for our fatherland Biafra. did you see club 700 the last time where an Igbo son told the audience what the igbos has been passingby, if you did you most have seen how the suprised audience were sheeding tears Chukwu gozie Biafra na umuya
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku
Thanks for urging restraint. One replies to the garbage that these folks spew forth as a matter of expediency, not necessarily because they are that engaging. No. As you will find out as time goes on, some of them even quote their own previous conjectures as if they were time-honored facts of history. Nothing is too lowly for these people.
No, I didn't watch the 700 Club episode that you alluded to. I doubt that we'd be receiving the same programming, though. You could elaborate on that if you may.
Here, we do not speak in tongues. Say it as it is (apologies OU), not minding whose ox is gored. However, there's no Uncle IBB, Buhari, Abacha, Abubakar, etc. under whose apron strings you could hide. The flak would be yours and yours solely. As the saying goes, everyone pushes his own darn cart (as Gowon rather belatedly found out at Warwick).
BTW, the last time I checked, it was Gwagwalada. Thought you were from the stock of the intrepid warriors!
posted
Gentlemen: Sheath your swords, please! What would be you guys take when an outsider pops into this forum and found out the trash-talking that has been going on here? A little bit of decency would be greatly appreciated.
Posts: 69 | Registered: Jun 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
if man pickin chose to speak tongue in cheek sef, wetin you fit do am? na deep dey call to deep here. anyway everybody just cool down, na we be dis. what is the difference between ibo and igbo. i don tell you before say na deep o.
Posts: 18 | From: Gwadalaga | Registered: Dec 2001
| IP: Logged
___________________ Biafra: save my bullets when I die, Oh Biafra, Allelua if I surrender and that will be forever. Posts: 272 | From: Birmingham AL | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Anu Nti: You are a sick man. You need help and until you start doing that, a lot more would be changed in tranforming your avalanche of insanity to reality. Go figure!
___________________ "We are where we are in large part at the moment, because our self-identified leaders of thought have put us there."----Ukpabi Asika Posts: 321 | From: Athens, Ohio USA | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Shaga and Adamu: All in all, going through your posts, I have not seen anything progressive one would say you contributed in this fora other than distractions. When you are presented with the hard facts of how you gworo eaters are, you lose it, then, start calling people names.
What makes you think you are better off? The one Nigeria Ndigbo controls economically with a sorry state that refused to recognize the impact we (Igbos) have created, should send you Jihadists a signal that you lazy buffoons have no game plan, in the long run.
posted
Ifeanyi: Economics is not the subject-matter but strategy, dialogue and organizational effectiveness. That's what counts, my friend.
___________________ "We are where we are in large part at the moment, because our self-identified leaders of thought have put us there."----Ukpabi Asika Posts: 321 | From: Athens, Ohio USA | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
If I may stray into lascivious waters, I do...... I see no reason as to such antagonism on this forum. Anyone who claims to be an intellectual which most do, does not resort to insults and badgery at any point in time. The northern intellectuals as the three aspouse themselves to be should realise that this forum is for serious deliberation over our next move as a people i.e. the Biafran people. We don't seek conflict but are nonetheless fully capable of defending ourselves using our own ingenuity. We may also be quite adept at sabotaging our own efforts but that is an epidemic that has been thrust upon our people by hardship. Please try and desist from calling each other names (Ndi b'anyi) and you northerners try and remember that there's a state of emergency in your country which is never deliberated by the likes of you ( 16% education rate in northern Nigeria, UN figures). Your oligarchic structure is COMPLETELY incompatible with today's state of the world and I pray that you'd start to bring attention to the plight of the nothern citizen. You would understand me if you were intellectuals. You would however, NOT understand me if you belong to the aforementioned oligarchy in one form or the other. No insults, just fact. The likes of your northern leaders are dragging us in the mud. You may not mind but wait until the peasantry of the north rise up in full JIHAD and take not just us I(G)BOS (silly not spelling our nation name properly), but also your families who have any money at all. At this rate, within 10 years this will happen but we DON'T want to stick around for that so PLEASE leave the forum for serious deliberants with a stake in a future BIAFRA.
When Bush starts the bombs flying over Kano, I pray the lord the innocent to spare. My Igbo brothers are fundamental to the existence of Kano and Kaduna as so-called cities. If your psychos start again like during the last riots, you'll start to understand that the concept of self-defence holds true. More muslim fanatics were killed in the north...... by people fighting for their lives. We CAN take the odds.
WE JUST WANT TO BE FREE FROM YOU NIGERIANS SO WE CAN START RIDDING OURSELVES OF OUR OWN PEOPLE WHO DRAG OUR NAME AS BIAFRANS IN THE MUD!!!!
BY ALL MEANS NECCESSARY!!!
Posts: 42 | From: Europe | Registered: Jan 2002
| IP: Logged
posted
By the way ..... Can all who quote famous people STOP that crap! Ugali what do you know about literature. It's easy to say Machiaveli and hope other people think you've read it but at LEAST get the quotes right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BY ALL MEANS NECCESSARY!!!
Posts: 42 | From: Europe | Registered: Jan 2002
| IP: Logged
posted
Chi m: What Machiaveli quotes do you want me to get right as in all quest for power? For your information, even in democratic institutions and the political world, the Machiaveli phenomenon is now a common factor: "THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS"
[ February 01, 2002: Message edited by: Ugali Shaga ]
___________________ "We are where we are in large part at the moment, because our self-identified leaders of thought have put us there."----Ukpabi Asika
Posts: 321 | From: Athens, Ohio USA | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Magudu Theophilus, just a note of advice. You will earn more points and make more sense than Batura only if you could write in Hausa. Even thou your broken English, you find it so damn difficult to express yourself with clerity. I was particularly choked reading your scripts. I know it was intended.
By the way, your name is quite very unsual for a Mallam and seems like one of those target christian names for the Fulanis. Are you actually Hausa or just a confused christian like the rest of you in North?
Hail Biafra
Posts: 1673 | From: Minnesota USA | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Waypoint You got it right, Bagudu or what ever he is called most be one them judgeing by the name he bears, Just like thier cousins Gowon,Danjuma,Dogonyaro and the rest, they are all sell outs protecting the interest that kill thier people, wining and dinning with the devil the oligiarcy while thier people are been killed and branded as setllers in thier own home land. Listen Bagudu, it is a most that you will soon become a moslem or you give up your life, this is a tragedy that will befall people like you sooner or latter. do you think that Gowon is finding it easy, By dinning with the devil Gens. Donkart Bali and victor Malu will tell better. do you think that the courage of Gidion Orkar was in vain, no you are wrong, he is a hero of his people and indeed all of us. you should understand that Igbos has a common destiny with the people of the middle Belt as christians and we will not hestate to come to thier rescue whenever the need arise. Hear what FREDRICK FORSYT siad on his Biafran story: What had started as a belief was transmuted to total conviction; that they could never agian live with Nigerians. From this stems the primordial political reality of the present situation. Biafra cannot be killed by anything short of total eradication of the people who make her. For even under total occupation Biafra would sooner or without colonel Ojukwu, rise up agian." THE EVIDENCE OF THIS IS OUR TOTAL DETERMINATION TO RECLAIM THOSE THINGS THAT BELONGS TO US. Shaga and co, you should be reminded who the Biafrans are and the imports of what we are capable of doing should not be lost in your perseption. We are strong, we are courageus, we shall rise the next time and we shall win for this is dear to our hearts and next to our religion. Chukwu gozie umu Igbo
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
| IP: Logged
posted
person wey one advise another, im sef must to show wisdom first. abi you now hear me?the other one wey dey confuse himself whether i be dis or dat, wetin be your concern for dat area, dis na feee zone and na talk about radicals we dey talk here, face that one first. yeye people
Posts: 18 | From: Gwadalaga | Registered: Dec 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Magudu, Be like say u never understand the main problem i.e. you wan call person yeye person........ That's your prerogative but that's why no problems ever get solved in Africa. Perhaps if you were truely proud of your identity as a black man, you would one day understand the pain and suffering my people have gone through and I mean ALL easterners. Your insistence on innocence of Nigeria in the organized slaughter of innocents is ridiculous. WE could probably coexist with your people whoever they may be if there were just an inkling of remorse for events precipitated by the ruling elite as is the case with almost ALL war and strife in this world.
Until that day of true remorse, understanding and respect for us as human beings, WE shall bear the standard espousing our independent status as Biafrans. Some of us especially the younger shall exalt in every demise that befalls your people, and pray for the hand of GOD to strike down upon our enemies until the tally is paid. 2 million to a few thousand is the scoresheet as of now. The tally however shall be nullified if the likes of Obasanjo, Danjuma and other war criminals within that backward and pathetic entity called Niggerhoea are brought to justice.
This comes from I who vehemently opposes violence of almost any sort but I shall merry whenever an outbreak of Meningitis occurs in the North because it's one way of the people figuring out that they follow morons of immense proportion.
Realise however that I firmly believe that EVERY black man on this planet is my brother and THAT'S why it hurts us Biafrans so much that it was YOU ALL that perpetuated GENOCIDE.
JUSTICE SHALL PREVAIL!!!
LIBERTY BY ALL MEANS NECCESSARY!!!
Posts: 42 | From: Europe | Registered: Jan 2002
| IP: Logged
posted
Okwyonuoha: I give it to you. Don't you see how Domkat Bali, the last elite Middle Belter, was savagely axed from the military in Ibrahim Babangida's dubious administration? And don't you see how Mamman Vatsa was secretly executed in the most brutal of circumstances, in a framed-up allegation that he planned a coup?
But the irony is, the so-called Middle Belts never understood that what goes around comes around. Whoever could have imagined that their place would be levelled by a people they once found solace doing business with?
___________________ Nwa Amucha
Posts: 369 | From: Little Rock, Arkansas | Registered: May 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
We are very much aware that "one-Nigeria" retains a bloated ethnically oriented army.
Those who themselves claim to support a "one-Nigeria" and yet would not allow a truly national-army are hypocrites.
The recent subtle threats from the (Hausa/Fulani) tribal/ethnic-army to other nationalities trapped in that "catchment" area called "one-Nigeria" must be taken very seriously indeed.
Should any Hausa/Fulani adventurist dare attempt to undermine the present consitution (despite all its faults), we must be ready to rise up to perhaps the final call.
___________________ In the Fullness of Time... Posts: 176 | From: UK | Registered: Nov 2001
| IP: Logged