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K. A
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I wrote a great deal about this misconception stemming from a warped mindset while at Nigeriaworld.

Is democracy = food + water + education + x ?

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Democracy is just an alternative system of government and way of live.

It has simply gained prominence and wide recommendation because of the civility that it portends and its complementability with human progress.

But with the likes of Adamu, Buhari, Babangida and Shagari et al as the elites of the north; what could anyone expect of the shoemakers of the region in terms of thinking?

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K.A.:
When a system fails you and it becomes obvious that turning things around looks like a mirage, what would you do if you were in the shoes of the angry shoemaker?

On democracy and the world, remember it was the handiwork of Great Britain. Also bear in mind that Britain still stands in playing a large and enduring role in shaping events, even though they were once conquered by the Romans and Greeks. Basically, the entire world today, including the United States, is still living in the social, cultural, and political set up of an institution began by Britain.

On the other hand, the frustrated shoemaker saw himself as better off in military regimes, one of the reasons he is clamoring for a return of the military juntas. Of course, he was wrong, but he made his point from personal experience.

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K. A
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Ugali,

While your first and third paragraphs mad little sense, it is difficult to say the same about the second paragraph.

What would I do if I were the shoe maker? An hypothetical question that makes no sense in reality. I am a post graduate degree holder who has read more than 250,000 thousand pages of stuffs since birth and still reading at least 2 hundred a week. I cannot and will not find myself thinking like the shoemaker. Rather, I would think, reflect, hypothesise, romaticise and approach any issue or situation from the stand point of an intellectual.

This is the same standard that I require from both you and Adamu; from Babangida and Buhari; from Max Gbanite and that quack Dr.
Is that too much to ask of you guys?

Now tell me, is the conduct of both you and Adamu better than that of the shoemaker? Or is Adamu's world also turning around "like a mirage" in the United States where he lives?

You do not support secession by the aggrieved Biafrans; you do not support democracy and the choices that it offers. You abhor christianity and its non violence doctrine. When people suggest national conference, you will shout fraud.
So what do you really support? Coups and Sharia? And when asked why? You are likely to start to abuse. O di egwu really!

[ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: K. A ]

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K.A.:
Stop the madness and come to terms with reality. Where have I stated I do not support democracy?

It's quite interesting you begun to let the whole world know about your fraudulent academic endeavors which has nothing to do with the subject-matter regarding the points I was trying to make. Let me tell one thing, you are no better than the shoemaker, despite academia, who has found out that Obasanjo's administration is not better off, and that he did well during the military regimes.

What has your haul of degrees got to do with common sense and simple economics? Would you compare Nigeria of today and the era of the military juntas? I don't think so. And that's the shoe maker's angst

By the way, why is the Western hemisphere so great?

[ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: Ugali Shaga ]

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K.A.,

Up you, turu gede! Tell it to the despicable moron. The mallam wasn't asking for the millitary per se, he was asking for fellow mallams (in khaki, QED). Tall order, if you ask me.

What the mallam fails to realise though is that the middle belt gun fodders may not be that keen anymore. But that is even assuming even that OO and co. have not comoletely neutralized all the vestiges of the northern illiterate officer corps and replaced them with, you know, the weeping generals. Odi egwu really!

And talking about the economy, if we could use that term to refer to the nightmare at home, it has been in a free fall since the days of the chain smoking midget, Shagari. To booth, it will get worse before it gets better. And BTW, all the bloodletting won't fast forward the arrival of the UHURU. If anything, it only rewinds the clock.


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Ugali,
Didn't I say so? So its now time for personal attacks...aint it? Isi ewu.

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One clear sign that the government of Obasanjo has failed is the regular use of soldiers in nearly all instances of civil unrest. One of these days, the soldiers will make a detour to Aso Rock to put an end to the unrest that is the Obasanjo administration.

Here is a pertinent comment by Chuba Okadigbo.

[ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: Seun ]

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Within BiafraNigeria

That is the only place you ever see anyone surrender to the Nigerian Army. I would love to see the day when a defeated foreign army surrenders to our thugs in uniform.

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This same soldiers who couldn't shoot straight in sierra Leone, are now recking havoc on poor people. In Sierra Leone they were a seating duck when the rebel attacked. Now all of a sudden they have become brave.

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EVEN THE CHILD SNIPPER WAS ABLE TO MASSACAR THE ALLMIGHTY NIGERIAN ARMY THAT OBUSONJO BOASTED WITH A FORTHNIGT AGO. THAT WAS ALSO IN SIERRA LEONE.

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K.A.:
Ain't you the one throwing insults now, after you have derided the shoe-maker as a never-do-well, regarding his trade, and of the fraudulent degrees that you acquired, what makes you think in this very scenario, living in an advance society makes you better than the shoe-maker who is engaged in providing goods and services regardless of your FSLC, WASC, BSC, MA, and Ph.D as once displayed by Mobalaji Aluko at egbeomooduduwa?

And how come you would't recognize the legitimacy of the shoemaker in providing goods and services just like your humble self who have acquired all these bunch of degrees to furnish the same goods and services based on your profession?

Let me tell a story from this very perspective. In the Athens area where I live, a university village, Ohio University, to be precise, is made up of a community where the professor goes to the barber shop to cut his hair and talk trash about local politics denouncing Republican's conservatism, the scientist takes a time out to counsel troubled kids, the bus driver knows every family in the neighborhood, the plumber, hardworking as he may be, dines and wines with the college professor; and even the lady who had no formal education baby-sits all kids born in that area, and gets paid for providing goods and services.

Now, we know you are not willing based on your arrogance ready to admit that academia rather than trading providing goods and services leading to how organized the Western Hemisphere has been, is not in anyway your call. But you never proferred any solutions how change can come about other than discriminating on behalf of your credentials and proclaiming to have read every literature, there is.

Tell me about this your literature stuff. I would like to know.

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Now, even Obasanjo is starting to read the hand-writing on the wall. BiafraNigeria is over, whether Obasanjo and his props like it or not. We are going to push that country over the precipice for the last time; we are going to take away its ability to recover. Then, we are going to build new and better nations out of the ruins.

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quote:
"We appear to be steadily losing ground to the suffocating influences of violence and lawlessness in the conduct of our political affairs," Obasanjo told legislators at a seminar before his talks with Blair. He said the violence threatens "the survival of the democratic system ... and our unity and oneness."


Mr Obasanjo:

That is what you get when an an agbero is released from jail and hurriedly foistered on a large entity with plural nationalities in a mordern world. Honestly speaking, was presiding over BiafraNigeria in your plans when you emerged from jail with eyes sunken deep in their sockets?

Your demise does not and should not spell the end of democracy in BiafraNigeria, so do the right thing, step down and march to the Hague to be tried for your war crimes against humanity.

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Ewoo! the center can not hold, what a situation Aremu fond himself! he has been bragging over recieving the Baifran surrender from General Philip Effiong now he is going to preside over the disentegration of Biafranigeria. it is sure he has come to the dead end. ejikwomoguoo na ofooo!
nigeria is finished...BAIFRA IS AN ACT OF GOD.

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Update:Former governor of old Gongola State, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur has berated Lagos State Governor, Alhaji Bola Ahmed Tinubu over his statement that the recent clash between members of the Odua Peoples Congress (OPC) and the Hausa community in Lagos was politically motivated.


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Speaking further, Tukur, who said that he is still a member of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), disclosed that he is in support of Alhaji Abubakar Rimi's presidential aspirant.


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Ugali

You wrote:

"K.A.:
When a system fails you and it becomes obvious that turning things around looks like a mirage, what would you do if you were in the shoes of the angry shoemaker?"


Now, following your reasoning, and correct me if I'm wrong; 'when a system fails and looks like a mirage one can't blame the shoe-maker for seeking a replacement'. That seems to me the essence of your statement.

I will say, similarly, when a state like your one-Nigeria has failed so badly, you should not blame or castigate anyone seeking a Biafra Republic, Oodua Republic, Arewa Republic, Niger-Delta Republic e.t.c.

Remember, I asked you in a different thread recently to convince me with the great rationale behind your one-Nigeria that I may have missed. Persuade me with reasoning (not with the bullet).

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