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Nigeria Aturu Egbe si na ya ga anyuru ovu onye nwa ya nyuru otule ya. Nigeria wanted to exterminate Biafran at all cost, to the point Gowon and Awolowo signed away Biafra land. Damian is right this what happen when a country is rule for 9 years, by uneducated fools, who later decided to go to School. Biafran will not accept this ICJ decision.
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BiafraNigeria is paying the price for fielding its third eleven. Gowon was illiterate Northerner, and Obasanjo is a retarded Yoruba man.
Let the record show that it was a Hausa-Fulani-Tiv-Lantan-Jukun that signed the Peninsula over to Cameroon, and it was a Yoruba idiot that conveyed the territory to Cameroon. Nd'Igbo have not spoken, and certainly, Biafra has not spoken on Bakassi Peninsula.
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Cameroon will be holding that land on trust for Biafrans untill we are able to retake what belongs to us, the reality is that the Cameroonians and it's goverment are quite aware that Bakassi belongs to Biafra and not Nigeria, that Nigerians signed that land away as a price of blocade agianst Biafrans is no more news but the question remians, why does the Nigerian goverment want to retake the land they gave away as a price to starve Biafrans on a brave but most unfurtunate time of our history? . By the way, is Obasanjo not going to war agian? why is he backing out after demostrating his military might at Enugu to scar Biafrans under the guise that BiafraNigeria will not cede an inch of it's territory to any country whatsoever. any war between Nigeria and Cameroon will mean the end of Nigeria.
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It is a sad day, and I sympathize with my Bakassi brethrens who have overnightly become Cameroonians. However, life might be better on the other side since the rogue government in Nigeria have for so long forgotten the benefactors of our riches.
Gowon and Obasanjo should be held responsible for this unpardonable blunder. As it has been said on the other side of the aisle, Gowon ceded it, Obasanjo signed it.
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Why should Obasanjo be blamed for what Gowon concluded more than 30 years ago? We should commend Obasanjo for delaying the implementation for more than 30 years. He should be given the Nobel Peace Prize for the courage in giving Bakassi Peninsula back to Cameroon. May be he should give Bakassi Boys to Cameroon too so Nigeria no longer has to worry about those thugs.
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Those of you that are focusing on the pact that Gowon signed with Ahidjo should start to worry about the ones that Obasanjo signed during his countless foreign trips. When you put an idiot in power, you will reap idocy. The international community are exploring for oil in that region and they know that Cameroon is more stable than BiafraNigeria. That is why they tricked Obasanjo into signing an agreement to honor the court's decision. May be the rest of Old Biafra should join Cameroon. It couldn't be worse than staying in BiafraNigeria.
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I am only greatly disappointed my wish for a war did not come through. Oh well, it was a luck that slipped away, hope for another day. I thought Jerry Gana was ready for war. Hail Biafra
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I have read some writers state that all ICJ decisions are advisory. That statement is incorrect. The ICJ has both advisory and compulsory jurisdiction as follows:
quote:II. The Jurisdiction of the ICJ Generally
The ICJ was established by the United Nations Charter in 1945 as the principal judicial organ of the United Nations. (6) The Court is governed by a special treaty, the Statute(7) of the International Court of Justice ("I.C.J. Statute"), which is annexed to the United Nations Charter, a charter to which every United Nations member is a party.(8) Although the ICJ has the authority to give advisory opinions,(9) it is the Court's compulsory jurisdiction(10) under the optional(11) and compromissory(12) clauses of Article 36 that were implicated in Nicaragua v. U.S.
Unlike municipal courts, the ICJ lacks automatic and mandatory jurisdiction. The compulsory jurisdiction of the ICJ derives entirely from the consent of the parties to the dispute. Pursuant to Article 36 of the ICJ Statute, States may indicate their consent under 1) the optional clause, by making a declaration granting jurisdiction to the Court, or 2) the compromissory clause, by specifically vesting the Court with jurisdiction through compromis or in disputes involving a particular bilateral or multilateral treaty.
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quote:---9--- The advisory jurisdiction of the ICJ is founded on Article 96 of the U.N. Charter and Article 65(1) of the ICJ Statute which provide as follows:
U.N. CHARTER Art. 96
1. The General Assembly or the Security Council may request the International Court of Justice to give an advisory opinion on any legal question.
2. Other organs of the United Nations and the specialized agencies, which may at any time be so authorized by the General Assembly, may also request advisory opinions of the Court on legal questions arising within the scope of their activities.
I.C.J. Statute, art. 65(1)
The Court may give an advisory opinion on any legal question at the request of whatever body may be authorized by or in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations to make such a request.
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---10--- The ICJ s compulsory jurisdiction is founded on I.C.J. Statute art. 36, the relevant clauses of which provide that:
I.C.J. Statute Article 36
1. The jurisdiction of the Court comprises all cases which the parties refer to it and all matters specially provided for in the Charter of the United Nations or in treaties and conventions in force.
2. The States parties to the present Statute may at any time declare that they recognize as compulsory ipso facto and without special agreement, in relation to any other state accepting the same obligation, the jurisdiction of the Court in all legal disputes concerning:
a. the interpretation of treaty;
b. any question of international law
c. the existence of any fact which if established, would constitute a breach of an international obligation
d. the nature or extent of the reparation to be made for the breach of an international obligation.
5. Declarations made under Article 36 of the Statute of the Permanent Court of International Justice and which are still in force shall be deemed, as between the parties to the present Statute to be acceptances of the compulsory jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice for the period which they still have to run and in accordance with their terms.
Dr. Emeka J. Amanze, Nicaragua v. United States: A Legacy of Oddities (1998 IPTL.Rev 5)
The case between BiafraNigeria and Cameroon was heard under the Article 36(2) compulsory jurisdiction of the Court. The case is a contentious case, and the decision is NOT advisory.
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I am pasting this uncle sam's piece here because a few voices have tried to indirectly link the Igbo in this. This is nigerian problem not Igbo problem so sam and Uwaa sef and co please take the Igbo out of it. You non Igbo Igbos should find a way to deal with your problems with the nigerians. Emphasis mine. Uwaa Sef Senior Member Member # 661 posted October 11, 2002 11:07 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hausa/Tiv perused the document. Yoruba signed it. Now, let's get Igbo to "unsign" it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
uncle sam Senior Member Member # 277 posted October 11, 2002 06:52 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigeria will not be setting a precedent if she backs off the agreement between Ahidjo and Gowon. Gowon simply signed off that piece of land during a civil war- as such it was under duress. United States signed many agreements with Russia during the tenure of Presidents Reagan and George Bush Sr. –ABM treaty, but America is backing out now. It’s no longer favorable. United States is the loudest critique of the International Court of Justice. Nigeria can borrow a leaf.
That our President, Obasanjo signed in hope of peace is the height of deceit and hypocrisy. Would he have signed if this piece of land were in Badagry? Or would Gowon have bargained this piece of land away if it were in the then Benue-Plateau ?
Obasanjo, if he don’t want to yield to cries of an “Igbo” hater must understand that certain things are off bargaining table. Certain things are taken by force through violence. Though, I would not blame this President for this whole mess, I blame him for his overbearing “siddon look attitude”
Now, I understand the useless Land Use Decree, which if my memory doesn’t fail me, is the machination of an Obasanjo first regime. A decree for government to own all land still sucks. Is this so, so that government can sign away our Land?
This is a blunder. A historical blunder!
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Uncle Sam ----------------------------------- A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds-- Ralph W. Emerson
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No part of Biafra should be ceded to another country, this should be the best time to intensify the struggle for Biafra in other to protect our homeland, if obasanjo should travel to Paris and sign away part of Biafranland inother to present himself as a statesman in the eyes of the world then, he should as a matter of urgence hand over lagos to the Benin republic, pretty soon Calaber, Port Harcourt, Umuahia and Enugu will be ceded to Cameroon to become part of the war price, who says that the war is ended? MAYBE THE BIAFRAN WILL WAKE UP ONE MORNING TO FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OVERUNED BY THE CAMEROONIANS.
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I sure as hell wouldn't mind being in a confederation with cameroon, At least there's dissent on the part of their southern population....... NO MORE DRAMA, NO MORE SHARIA BS, NO MORE Obasanjo, NO MORE glorified SLAVERY (Refer to Ojukwu's speeches). "We Biafrans are the closest black people to true freedom".
Folanke you feel Obasanjo should win the Nobel prize? That's how y'all want prizes for doing shayt..... Sorry, Europeans WORK for their prizes, Not bribe!
BY ALL MEANS NECCESSARY!!!
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" He should be given the Nobel Peace Prize for the courage in giving Bakassi Peninsula back to Cameroon. May be he should give Bakassi Boys to Cameroon too so Nigeria no longer has to worry about those thugs. "
Folanke Are you on drugs ? So now you think courage is about "I dey kampe" ? Heck maybe you are talking about babboon courage, but I don't BiafraNigeria has yet degenerated to an animal kingdom. Don't come writting here after sniffing that stuff. As for the "Bakassi boys" we will keep them as a reminder of what can be if need be, ain't nothing you can do about that.
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If anyone was in doubt as to how the civilized world sees BiafraNigeria the proof is out there in the Bakassi decision. The idea of a bunch stealing idiots controlling the mineral resources of the Bight of Biafra does not excite the West hence this decision. The question though is where was tortoise Britain to protect BiafraNigeria's interest in this case? how times change.
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The Ngwati press is trying to give the impression that the Yoruba president is trying to fight for Bakassi Peninsula, but the Igbo/Hausa National Assembly is blocking his effort. This one is from the Yoruba Tribune,
quote: BIAFRANIGERIA appeared set for war with Cameroun over the oil rich Bakassi Pennisula as it hurriedly withdrew the three fighter jets and support troops earlier deployed to Cote D’Ivoire. The Alpha jets and the support troops which were despatched to the country on the orders of the presidency returned to BiafraNigeria on Monday. Informed military sources disclosed to the BiafraNigerian Tribune in Abuja on Tuesday that the aircraft were ordered back to the country in preparations for the worst as the International Court of Justice is expected to deliver its ruling on the dispute on Thursday. The Alpha jets and troops which were deployed two weeks ago to Cote D’Ivoire, were not given a clear mandate on what they would do there. However, sources added that they were instructed to be on stand-by to provide cover for the over four million BiafraNigerians in that country should the situation got out of hand. The Alpha jets were all stationed at the Abidjan airport before they were recalled on Monday. President Obasanjo has, however, explained to the Senate that BiafraNigerian soldiers were sent to Cote d’Ivoire to protect BiafraNigerians, not on combat operations. A letter from President Obasanjo said the military men were sent to the crisis-torn West African country to protect BiafraNigerians in the face of government troops—rebels fighting in that country.
The President, in the letter, said the action was in conformity with military practice and the soldiers were not involved in the fighting. He said the action was normal and did not violate provisions of the 1999 Constitution which require that the approval of the Senate be obtained before soldiers are deployed to a foreign country for military operations. There have been worries in the last few days over the level and status of the presence of BiafraNigerian soldiers in Cote d’Ivoire as well as who gave approval for the deployment.
Senator Idris Kuta had last week raised the matter on the floor of the Senate, demanding that Obasanjo be condemned for the deployment. He was, however, told by the Senate President to hold on for the Senate to find out what the true situation was before taking a decision on it.
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The people of Bakassi Peninsula are better of in Cameroon than in Nigeria. France was our friend during the war. There is no reason that any Igbo or Biafran should be upset about the judgment. If it comes to war, we should support France and Cameroon. That could be our ticket to freedom from the Nigerian murderers.
Some people are hallucinating that Nigeria could fight Cameroon and France. Those people have problems. Nigeria has neither the military equipment nor the national will to fight a war against Cameroon. If the war comes, you can count Biafrans and Nd'Igbo out of it. Let the Igbo efulefu and Hausa-Fulani/Yoruba rag-tag army go and get themselves smoked.
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quote: The case between BiafraNigeria and Cameroon was heard under the Article 36(2) compulsory jurisdiction of the Court. The case is a contentious case, and the decision is NOT advisory.
I am not too sure the assertion of compulsory jurisdiction is correct, but for the sake of this discussion, let us hypothetically agreed that it is true. My question is who will be the enforcer and how will it be enforced? Has there been any precedent to such enforcement and who are the enforcing agents?
quote:My question is who will be the enforcer and how will it be enforced? Has there been any precedent to such enforcement and who are the enforcing agents?
Bababoyz:
You ask good questions. It is important to separate the issue of enforcement from the issue of legality. The UN does not have an army or police force. But, we know that UN and Security Council resolutions are enforced if there is a a major military power with enough interest or willingness to enforce the resolution.
In the case of Iraq, the US has been enforcing "Security Council Resolutions" against Iraq since the end of the Gulf War.
A court decision from the ICJ is even stronger than a Security Council resolution against countries like Iraq because unlike Iraq, the country, in this case, Nigeria, against whom the decision will be enforced participated fully in the process that led to the decision.
Therefore, France and Cameroon could join forces and invade the Bakassi Peninsula to enforce the decision of the court in the same way that the US and Britain have been enforcing Security Council resolutions against Iraq. If Nigeria fails to carry out the court's decision, Nigeria will be on its way to being listed as a rogue state that flouts international law. That will put Nigeria in the same category as Iraq.
Alternatively, France could introduce a resolution at the Security Council demanding that Nigeria pull out of Bakassi Peninsula "or else." If Nigeria fails to comply, France could then get one or two allies and move to enforce the Security Council Resolution. We have precedent for this in Iraq and other places.
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"...I had to do so because if I did not, Biafra would have been in a better position to strengthen its armoury because the Bakassi corridor was being used as a supply route for arms and ammunitions. At the time of the civil war, it was expedient to act as I did. In war, all is fair. If I General Gowon had not traded with that strip of land, may be Nigeria would have lost more territory with the likely success of the secessionist agenda. I would then have insisted that all things considered I General Gowon, remain a patriot."---Reuben Abati.
All, Above is a quote from IGBO HATER Reuben Abati Of the Nigerian Guardian neswpaper "advice" to Gowon to tell the ever gullible Nigerians why he sent millions of Biafran people to their untimely grave.
Who than a DERAINGED MIND could explain away the pain and anguish Gowon's DEVILISH act during the AVOIDABLE Biafran-Nigerian civil war rot on the Igbos? Does it occur to Mr. Abati that those folks were human irrespective of their race?
When did starving a whole generation become part of a "war" that is "fair?"
With people like Abati (there're many like him in all speres of Nigerian society), does anyone then wonder why Nigeria has never and WOULD NEVER know peace.
BTW, where is the other Igbo hater by name CLEMENT IKPATT? Has his master Obasanjo signed him off to the Cameroonians as Gowon did his Bakassi people years ago? Now we know why the man was behaving like a slave that he is.
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Abati as ever is confusing himself. He hardly finished telling Gowon to say that Bakassi was given away as a matter of necessity than he blurted out this:
quote:Gowon's misadventure with Bakassi will always be remembered as one of the evil outcomes of military rule.
He should be able to make up his mind if Gowon's folly was evil or a necessity. But as Patrick rightly pointed out all the propaganda is aimed at heaping all the yoruba/hausa tracheary on Husas alone. Contrary to Obasanjo's claim that Nigeria fought Biafra to save the eastern minorities, the reality is that the eastern minority were literally sold for a porridge to save Nigeria.
Maybe Ikpatt is too busy getting used to being Camerounian he hasn't found time to defend Obasanjo for signing away Bakassi.
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When Olusegun Obasanjo invited Cameroonian president Paul Biya to Aso Rock in commemoration of the so-called 42nd anniversary, Obasanjo and his "legal experts" agreed with Biya's entourage that International Court of Justice' decision would be upheld and respected and should not be appealed under any circumstances.
Ironically, Obasanjo's careless legal counsels had envisioned the decision to be on their side without doing their homework well. They took a devastating blow by conceding and respecting the rule of law even though the inhabitants of Bakassi Peninsula had been Calabar fishermen and farmers, the rightful owners of the land, which should be considered a Nigerian territory.
But when the Biafranigerian quack legal teams, the arrogant airheads, who refused to do good consulting, appropriate and adequate counseling regarding international law, it never occured to them that ICJ's decision would be based on a treaty signed between Germany and Britain without the consent of the plaintiff and defendant (Cameroon and Nigeria). As a matter of fact, a treaty signed before the thought of independence began, which shouldn't have been a blueprint arriving to such decisions.
In other words, the decison was based on instituted colonial boundaries and Geography.
However, Yakubu Gowon, in his quest to destroy Nd'Igbo and her kith and kin took advantage of the controversial oil rich peninsula and ceded, thus a war strategy to a full-blown assault and annihilation on the Igbo nation.
Now that they have begun to sound their war drums recalling their futile troops who were once humiliated in Liberia, on what ground are they going to attack Cameroon? That they take back their word in agreeing to ICJ's decision and would violate its ruling even if it takes getting back their land? That's what happens when you have stupid people running a country.
Thank you brother. As usual, you have helped us to understand the law. I went to the censorship cafe, a.k.a. egbeomooduduwa.com, and I saw that ebe wrote that "ICJ decisions are advisory."
All the people over there did not know enough to challenge him. Now, you see the type of ignorance that those people are peddling to each other ever since Czar chuck odili banned all the intellectuals from that site. It is a case of the BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.
As for Bakassi Peninsula, I don't care if it is in Cameroon or in BiafraNigeria. The people in that area, if they are honest, will tell you they don't care if they are in Cameroon or in BiafraNigeria. may be, if they are in Cameroon, the gandarmes will stop killing them for sport.
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