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AfricaWest: Your claim lacks merit. If you indeed sent $500.00 to Amanda Wekson which has nothing to do with Biafranigeriaworld, then you don't have case. Whatever transactions and negotiations that went on is between you and Wekson. Leave Biafranigeriaworld out of it.
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Rudulf, How dare you opened your dirty mouth to talk on this issue, you should be ashamed of yourself.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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Rudolf, How dare you opened your dirty mouth to talk on this issue, you should be ashamed of yourself.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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I have never seen Joy sweat this profusely. In Swahili, we say, maisha ni ngumu
___________________ Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained. - William Blake Posts: 60 | From: -- | Registered: Oct 2001
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It is not sweat. It is called radiance! Some have it, some don't.
I woke up this morning and saw AfricaWest's attempt to defraud BiafraNigeriaWorld. I believe I have squashed it, and if he is stupid enough to show up in court, he will learn an unforgettable lesson in the law. That is what a true Igbo does.
I wish you could say that you would or could do the same to Yoruba vultures, like Reuben Abati, who are running all over Igbo people with a Yoruba newspaper. Why don't you establish the newspaper equivalent of BiafraNigeriaWorld? At least if you do that, you know who to call when your fellow efulefu such as AfricaWest attempt to extort $500 from you.
___________________ Biafra All The Way Posts: 202 | Registered: Mar 2001
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I am still willing to send a check for $500.00 today, being my contribution toward the party. My view is that the planning of the party should have continued. If the people planning this party are willing to resume, I will be happy to send a check to them today for $500.00. Otherwise, we could all just look for other ways to commemorate the birth of BiafraNigeriaWorld one year ago this month.
On the other hand, BiafraNigeriaWorld has accomplished a revolution on the Internet that we celebrate in this forum every day. It is revolutionary that a forum belonging to a BiafraNigerian could operate such that members are given the opportunity to debate a lawsuit against the forum itself and where one side in the debate is led by the putative plaintiff in the lawsuit. That in itself is great enough anniversary gift from BiafraNigeriaWorld to all of us. I am always game for good heated debates such as we have had in this thread.
It is a foolish man that will make this debate the subject of an actual lawsuit. Of course, BiafraNigeriaWorld will have my support in the event of such foolishness.
___________________ No Nonsense Posts: 79 | Registered: Mar 2001
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One more thing: It is time to state that this forum is like a raging crocodile. Those who feed it with the hope that it eats others will one day become victims themselves. A pig today is a beacon tomorrow.
It is funny to read Anu Nti complain about being under fire and no one came with fire extinguisher to rescue him. As for Biafra, the man simply ducked. The rod he helped push into the chimney was too hot for him to hold. Today, the once honorable AfricaWest is being called a fraud. Who will be next? Not me! This nza bird has sprout all the blood it has.
I will now sit back and enjoy the movie made by actors and producers who have no idea on the role SACRIFICE plays in the realization of any goal.
Good repose the while.
[ March 12, 2002, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Rudolf Okonkwo ]
___________________ Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained. - William Blake Posts: 60 | From: -- | Registered: Oct 2001
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Interesting! AfricaWest presents his case of wiring five hundred dollars to Amanda Wekson in a personal transaction only to come back demanding refund from Biafranigeriaworld. By the way, have we heard Wekson's side of the story?
And, of course, Rudolf Okonkwo would hijack the whole episode insinuating he was a psychic predicting with near certainty the anniversary bash would hold. Baloney! Rudolf, you need to wash your mouth and stop all the drbbling.
AfricaWest, nobody in this forum is a legal minor, so, be very careful of your choice of words.
___________________ Nwa Amucha Posts: 369 | From: Little Rock, Arkansas | Registered: May 2001
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quote:It is time to state that this forum is like a raging crocodile.
Rudy:
Did you just figure that out? I hope that no Igbo efulefu thinks that these debates provide an opportunity for them to smuggle in that dubious Agboro Charter. The "raging Aguiyi" will come for you. We are still vigilant.
AfricaWest:
I am glad you are not my lawyer.
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“The difference between you and I is, that I actually followed through with my pledge.” --- AfricaWest
Old Boy:
I guess it is all in the semantics. Which one is better? A person who wants to wait to get paid before sending a check, or a person like you who sent a phantom check that no one received? The last time I checked, Amanda did not receive any of the payments yet. Have you ever heard the words “THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL?” Try telling that to your mortgage lender or car note servicer and see if you don't get a visit from the repo man.
Just because I pledged to send money does not mean that the check would go out the very next morning. Some of us have to earn the money before we can send the check. Since you have $5,000 to waste suing Biafrans, why didn’t you pay to reserve the hall? Where is the proof that you indeed sent this phantom check of yours
“We may choose to blame Amanda and avoid reality, however, the truth stares at us everyday!” --- AfricaWest
We are not castigating Amanda. We are castigating YOU. Don’t try to shift attention from yourself to Amanda.
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I don't know if you are a lawyer or not. But, if you are really a lawyer, then you are an idiot lawyer with no brains. How could you let Joy mop the floor with you like that? Did you really think that all you had to do was call yourself a lawyer and not have to prove yourself? That may be good enough for Britain and Nigeria. It does not work in America. You even disappointed Anu Nti who was rooting for you. Tufia!
Joy showed you what it means when we say that a lawyer should be able to think on her feet. WOW! You started a fight you could not finish. She has made a sorry example of you for the world to see. You are lucky that you are using a fake name. SHE WHOPPED YOUR BEHIND.
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Chineke Nnna, Chi okike, Nna anyi nke bi n'elu igwe, biko nyere Nd'Igbo na ndi agbata obi anyi aka. Onye nwayi biko mere anyi ebere. Biko nye anyi amamihe na ako na uche. Mee kwa k'anyi si na nzuzu puta. Nna biko zaa ekpere anyi naha Jisos ony nzoputa anyi. Isee, Amim. Folks, this is all I can do for now (pray). We need prayers.
Every event calls for sacrifice of all. More importantly a few people take it upon themselves to make it happen. Those few become the movers and shakers and pillars of the event. Infact they cause others to be inspired. We saw that at the beginning when two people pledged $500 each. At that moment it became apparent that a foundation had been laid with $1,000. Upon that, everybody else pledged to build on. Did the movers move ahead as promised ? There is no proof that the monies not yet received before this whole confusion were not going to be recieved eventually. How did we get to start quarrelling ? We have no patience, no kind words, no persuasive technique, no encouragement, nothing at all. Why ? Some of us have hosted events that call for this type of sacrifice, shaking and moving and it happened successfully. Some people are early birds, others are late and yet others would have brought theirs at the gate. Since the least pledge was $50, we could have made a gate fee for that amount and advertised the event to non-forumites in New York and New Jersey area taking advantage of the proximity of both places and we would have had a full house. I was about to send my pledge when hell broke loose here on the web. I am still willing to send mine even if it turns out to be used for something else in the nearest future towards our unity and commitment to a common purpose as a people. We have drifted for too long and our detractors have continued to laugh at us and pehaps rightly so. Nobody goes to a party in my state paying $100 which was my pledge. When someone began to make suggestions to enrich the program for the day which I saw a lot of sense in, someone else cut in rudely as if it is all about money and party. For me I expeected it to be more than that. People were already envying us for the event. But look how we have fallen flat on our face. My people, let us stop for a moment and do some thinking. It is time to do just that. Udo diri unu.
___________________ Chukwu gozie Nd'Igbo nile. Posts: 124 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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Thank you so much for what you have said. You are right in every respect.
I am still willing to plan this party if members of this forum are still willing to have it. It was a great idea that Amanda initially proposed. Obviously, the venue may change, although New Jersey is not entirely ruled out. The date of the party may also change, depending on how successful we are at funding the party.
Given what has happened so far, it would be best for Amanda to first return any money that she has received to the people that sent the money.
If those forum members who contributed are still willing to participate in the party, they can, after getting their money back from Amanda, re-send their contributions to me as their contribution to the party. I would like to stress that I will not accept any money from anyone unless the money is sent directly by the attendee or person who pledged it. Please do not send money to someone else and ask him or her to forward it to me.
Those who want to attend the party should contact me by private message. If there is enough interest, I will make an announcement on the forum and provide everyone with details of how we all will proceed to make this party happen.
If we do this, we all have to understand that we are doing so as forum members, and we should be determined not to involve the Administrator or whoever else is responsible for running the forum. We want to avoid a repeat of what has just happened.
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Renee and Emela, A great sence of reason,i hope we understand that something is at stake, for people that has immenselly contributed to this forum to suddenly become naive,this is very diffcult for me to understand. the consolation should be that all hopes are not lost. please let us put our acts together and stop further shots. Were is the insperation for the Biafra of our hearts if little basics should put us apart, methinks some thing is wrong somewhere.
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Somehow, everyone understood it and played their role, and the fundraiser went hitch-free. MASSOB/BF got the money, and everyone was happy. That is precisely what AfricaWest was supposed to do here.
Instead, AfricaWest chose to make a fool of himself by initiating a new 419 scheme to scam money from an unsuspecting forum. Does this mean that we should all start expecting 419 letters based on this AfricaWest Formula where you claim that you sent money to one person and threaten to sue someone else to give you the money back "or else?"
AfricaWest: For every penny you spend to sue BiafraNigeriaWorld, I will spend 5 pennies to support BiafraNigeriaWorld. If we have to make an example of you in court and in public of what Biafrans will not tolerate, we are going to do it.
I have been told that you were led into your self-destructive course of conduct by a misguided woman. That does not speak much for your manhood.
Emela, Renee, and Okwy: You speak for me. The party should go on with or without AfricaWest and his co-conspirators.
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Amanda Wekson, Biko, if AfricaWest or anyone sent you any amount of money, please kindly send it back as fast as possible.
By the way you should speak up so we all can know what is really going on. You cannot disappear now when you were involved in the so called money transaction.
AfricaWest, If you are making a baseless threat and never sent any money to Wekson or this forum I suggest that you shut your trap for own good. I hope you did send that $500 to Amada maka if you never did,I will be utterly disappointed. Threatening this forum will do you no good. You know who you personally sent the money to and I expect you go after that person not BiafraNigeria forum.
All, I don't believe that the anniversary should be stopped for any reason. It should go on as long as members of this forum are willing to sacrifice any amount of money and are ready to come. May I also suggest that the party must be planned in state or town where we have more than one member as residents. (if that's possible) It will be better us jointly handle the money and every other thing. Renee has is ready to help now who else will be ready to volunteer.
We cannot let this end disaster. THIS WILL only give evil creatures of efulefu extractions like Rudolf to rejoice.
Rude Oaf, Since you never had anything to do with the anniversary, I think you should keep yourbasket mouth shut, you good for nothing journalist from Ondo or wherever you studied your stupid journalism. Yeye man.
By the way if it's true that A.West has been banned then we have a problem. I don't believe should be banned. If he came to destroy this forum he will never succeed. We all know how we dealt with the prodigal son Aluko, Bolaji.
Anu nti, Kwusi ife i n'me wee, biko. Ugbua aburo mgbe obu kwesiri iji n'ato gi Paulina, Paulina.
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Odili, Onye a i na kpo iyi bu kwanu ofu nime ndi bulu uzo kwute okwu anniversary nua anyi nekwu okwu ya kita. o bu otua ka iga eji na kpo ndi Igbo ibe gi iyi. Biafra nwa o ga ba kwa anyi ncha, nwannem nwoke ? Udo diri gi.
___________________ Chukwu gozie Nd'Igbo nile. Posts: 124 | From: USA | Registered: Apr 2001
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"This party will be an anniversary to commemorate free speech..." - Ambrose
I just got an email from AfricaWest saying that he has been banned from this board.
Hurray!!!!!!!
___________________ Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained. - William Blake Posts: 60 | From: -- | Registered: Oct 2001
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If indeed AfricaWest has been banned from this forum, then he deserved to be banned. If it has not been done already, my recommendation to BiafraNigeriaWorld is that AfricaWest be banned immediately.
Free speech remains alive and well. There is a reason why people are prohibited from yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. The Constitution itself limits free speech. Free speech does not give AfricaWest or you the right to destroy this forum. AfricaWest freely announced to this forum that he is a lawyer. Yet, AfricaWest made all sorts of false and poisonous allegations against the Administrator. AfricaWest was given full opportunity to make his case. He failed to do so.
More than ever, it is obvious that AfricaWest is in the background plotting against this forum. He will fail.
It speaks for itself that of all the honorable and well-intentioned members of this forum, AfricaWest chose you, Rudolf, as his messenger, representative, and attack dog.
When Igbos and Biafrans were banned at egbeomooduduwa.com, you threw your support behind your master, chuck, or you maintained a cowardly and criminal silence.
You said that for you, it was "better to be on the inside pissing out, than to be on the outside pissing in."
Not once did you make a post on behalf of the banned Igbos and Biafrans. It is suspect that you are now speaking for AfricaWest who has shown that his only goal is the destruction of BiafraNigeriaWorld.
Rudolf, for your information, any further discussion not related to the party that forum members have expressed a desire to have should be made elsewhere. If you have any original thoughts to express, take it to an appropriate thread. I will contact and advise the Administrator to move all additional posts not geared toward the party, to a different thread or to delete them altogether, whichever is more appropriate.
Or better yet, Rudolf, take your drivel to egbeomooduduwa.com where it more appropriately belongs.
All:
In the last two days BiafraNigeriaWorld has responded to certain issues in this forum. The reason that BiafraNigeriaWorld has taken the time to do so is that BiafraNigeriaWorld deems it important that forum members have an understanding of how decisions that affect membership and participation in this forum are made. However, the willingness to spend that time does not mean that forum members will be permitted to abuse this process. Any posts in this forum addressed to the Administrator or demanding the Administrator’s attention will either be ignored or deleted.
Anyone who has any questions regarding their membership and participation in this forum should direct their questions to the Administrator at webmaster@biafranigeriaworld.com.
___________________ Biafra All The Way Posts: 202 | Registered: Mar 2001
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My understanding of the previous party threads were that various people [myself included] made pledges which they could not redeem before the deadline given to Amanda by the hotel in Newark. As a result of this, Amanda was unable to reserve the hall at the Robert Treat hotel, much to our collective shame and disappointment. At this point, AfricaWest made certain allegations concerning a contribution of $500 towards the party. These allegations were firmly rebuffed by, inter alia, Joy. Accordingly, AfricaWest had the option to disclose further information concerning the alleged contribution of $500 or to seek legal recourse to recover his money if he saw fit. To the best of my knowledge, he has done neither but then he may be biding his time, reserving his options, taking advice from a QC etc, etc
All these are separate issues from AfricaWest's freedom to parrticipate on this messageboard and to speak his mind. If anyone was angered by AfricaWest's statements, they could have responded by providing factual information in rebuttal of his allegations. The solution is not to silence AfricaWest for speaking his mind. Anyone who feels defamed by AfricaWest could sue for libel in the US courts [I am assuming that the BNW servers are located in the US.] If a journalist or op-ed writer makes defamatory allegations on a US newspaper website, is he sued for damages by the aggrieved persons or 'banned' from ever publishing again?
If indeed AfricaWest has been banned, I think it is a retrogressive step smacking of censorship. I am opposed to the banning of AfricaWest as a matter of principle. It is un-Igbo and anti-democratic. We are not in Nigeria where defamation litigation would take 3-4 years and the plaintiff can hope for at best, desultory damages in the even that he wins. Furthermore, is it not ironic that BNW which was formed by people banned from nigeriaworld.com should now turn around to ban people too?
Anyone aggrieved by AfricaWest's allegations should sue him.I appeal to the webmaster to reconsider this step and 'un-ban' AfricaWest.
Posts: 75 | From: Cambridge, MA | Registered: Dec 2001
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"If indeed AfricaWest has been banned from this forum, then he deserved to be banned. If it has not been done already, my recommendation to BiafraNigeriaWorld is that AfricaWest be banned immediately."
I hope that AfricanWest has not been banned because that will be a dastasdly act. What satisfaction could be derived from going that route? Yes, AfricanWest erred by holding this forum responsible for the money he alledgedly sent to Amanda but instead of getting on his case and calling him an unqualified lawyer shouldn't it have been more appropriate to ask Amanda if she did receive the money that African West claimed to have sent to her? And if she did to ask her to return the money. I think that this a peaceful way to resolve the curent mess. You don't do that by claiming that I am a better litigator or a smarter one. Afterall, what is there to litigate?
And I must confess my shame of how quick some of you are to fling the "419" accusation against AfricanWest. I do not know him but nothing I have read from his postings or even from the way he had conducted himself on this forum gives me the slightest impression. Now, I hope that he has realized the foolishness of wanting to attend a party in America from London especially a party without any clear agenda.
In the U.S., an employer has the right to fire employees who threaten to sue them. On Capitol Hill where U.S. laws are made, a Senator or a Congressman has the right to immediately fire employees who threaten to sue.
Granted, BiafraNigeriaWorld does not employ AfricaWest, however, the principles are the same because BiafraNigeriaWorld pays to enable AfricaWest to make his posts.
Should AfricaWest, having made false accusations against the Administrator, and having threatened to sue BiafraNigeriaWorld, reasonably expect BiafraNigeriaWorld to continue to facilitate his ability to continue to make his false allegations, especially after he had ample opportunity to prove them and he failed to do so?
You say,
quote:If a journalist or op-ed writer makes defamatory allegations on a US newspaper website, is he sued for damages by the aggrieved persons or 'banned' from ever publishing again?
Your analogy to newspapers is faulty in this situation. Newspapers have the ability to screen what is published. BiafraNigeriaWorld does not screen what is published in the forums. Besides, AfricaWest is making allegations against a person that is not authorized to participate in forum discussions under the forum rules. Furthermore, AfricaWest is neither a journalist nor an op-ed writer.
You fail to mention that even if the writer is not prevented from ever publishing again, the newspaper will fire any writer whose writing is detrimental to the newspaper.
You go on to say,
quote: Accordingly, AfricaWest had the option to disclose further information concerning the alleged contribution of $500 or to seek legal recourse to recover his money if he saw fit. To the best of my knowledge, he has done neither but then he may be biding his time, reserving his options, taking advice from a QC etc, etc…All these are separate issues from AfricaWest's freedom to parrticipate on this messageboard and to speak his mind.”
If AfricaWest wanted to bide his time and reserve his options, he should never have made his post on this forum. Even after his initial post, he was given the option of either factually substantiating his false allegations on this forum or going to court. He chose to continue to use this forum to make more baseless accusations against BiafraNigeriaWorld.
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