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And yet, despite all these plea for understanding they bent on to achieve their satanic mission. I will say it again, you can never placate a plastic soul. It is just like talking to a brick wall.
The worst part of this is that the contest was moved to London of all places, a violent proned IRA. What a shame. No African country was considered. Olusegun Obasanjo, wasted millions of dollars only to succumb to the west [London press] that beauty cannot tamn the beast. And only to prove oncemore that he is more a Desert Rat than a Yellow. If this contest was funded by a private citizens, there is no way they would have sanctioned the move to London, somebody gotta make a profit. Biafranigeria being what they are, waste management could not care less about how much was lost. It is oil money.
Hail Biafra
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"I think it is sensational and tabloid journalism at its worst...Can you say Tabloid?"--Leo.
I SAY YES! But so also is Miss Isioma's article which a notable journalist like Jeff Koinange of CNN described as "IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM."
To go further: - Just as there are peace-loving and moderate muslims like Babarabe Musa and Tinubu, the former a former governor of one northern state and the latter the present governor of Lagos State, so also there are EXTREMISTS like the Zamfara State governor.
- Just as there are BAD Ibo leaders like Ojo Maduekwe and co, so also there are good Igbo leaders like Ojukwu, Mbakwe and others like them.
- Just as there are INSENSITIVE and IRRESPONSIBLE Yorubas like Obasanjo and co, so also there are good and respected Yorubas like Gani Fawehimi (I forgot that he is also a proffessed muslim) and co.
- Just as there are DIVISIVE "Aniomas" like Big Steve and co who use it as weapon of division, so also there are those unifiers like Benbella and co who though believe that there are variaty of Igbo background, but however agree that it DOES NOT make the origin of the eastern Igbos better or different from those in the mid-western region.
- Just as George Bush has been calling Saddam Hussein and co TERRORISTS, he has not stopped addressing the Iraqi people as "the good people of Iraq." Despite all the terrorism they have faced mostly from those who claim to "represent Islam," according to a recent poll, majority of Americans and Isrealis do not think ALL muslims are terrorist. Even the American government has not stopped kuddling the Saudis (the home of Islam)as "our friends and Allies."
Why I sampled the above local and international anology is to DEFINE and to REMIND the fellow who cannot differentiate between strereotyping people and "freedom speech" that what he has been doing (and supporting) since he came on board is STEREOTYPING PEOPLE, nothing more, nothing less. And if anyone wants to know why I will always be against it, it is firstly because I come from a race (Igbo race) that was stereotpyed to be the cause of ALL of Nigeria's problems (Mobalaji Aluko and others have repeated same on this board.) And secondly, I live in a country where unguarded STEREOTYPING costed a race (the Jews) over 6 million lives.
Therefor, knowing where we are coming from and the mess we are (some by our own making), there is no gain saying that to be able to gather the much needed local and international support in our struggle to be free as a people (in whatever shape or form), we should avoid and discourage GENERALISATION of people based on their religious, racial, cultural or lingual background.
That has and is still my point, and it does not make me less ready than any one on board or elsewhere to do PHYSICAL battle when there is REASONABLE REASON to do so.
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"Moving the pageant to Britain is signal that Britain is still the colonial master."---Kunle.
Thanks for reminding yourself what we already know.
Just visited egbeomooduduwa. com and read how you "one Nigerians" have changed gear and are now beating the "balkanize it" drum. After reading most of the input (including yours), I couldn't help laughing.
My questions (this must be agitating the minds of most INFORMED Igbos as well) are: When you guys now talk of breaking up Nigeria (something most of us on this board were banned for at that forum) is it not because Obasanjo has been denied the opportunity to use the Miss World pegeant to hide his ADMINISTRATIVE FAILURES?
What is the defference bettween the northern religious supremacist killing in the name of "religion" and the Yoruba supremacist hiding under the toga of "defence of son of the soil" and so-called democracy to kill innocent non-Yorubas?
Listen Kunle, other Igbos who do not know their history or have simply forgorten may be tempted to believe the crockodile-tears some of you at egbeomooduduwa and elswhere are shedding. Some short-sighted ones may also to follow your war cries. But be sure that the NwaAros of Igboland who know how the east went as Awolowo said before the civil war and only to turn back after to discover that the west (Yorubas) did not only turn back to gather wares in the house, they also conspired with other Nigerians (including our eastern neigbours) to OCCUPY the house and land TILL TODAY as well. So I'm telling you that majority of Igbos will not, I say WILL NOT be deceived this time around.
I repeat the case I have been making to my fellow Igbos on board, i.e. if you die-hard "one-Nigerians" now think it is time to divide Nigeria, you people (not the Igbos) should be at the front row. You should hold the gun and command the tank that will release the first shots. We Igbos will come later as re-enforcement when we see that you are serious and also on condition that we are satisfied that your chosen method will achieve SUCCESS.
Over to you hitherto united-Nigeria-at-all-cost advocates.
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quote:The fatwa states that: "Isioma Daniel has committed a blasphemy against our noble prophet (SAW). Her offence is no less severe than that of Salman Rushdie who wrote the Satanic Verses to defame our prophet (SAW). Therefore, any Muslim who finds her should behead her for the sake of Allah and His rasul (SAW).
Obasanjo should now be ashamed of himself. The cockroach that issued the crappy fatwah and the people that forwarded and published it should not be working free.
Can you believe that idiot was hiding in Lagos while Abuja burned. He boasted that he introduced Sharia, and the monster he made will now devour him.
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HAS ANY MOSLEM APOLOGISED FOR THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CHRISTIANS AND DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY???? The answer is no.
This is a dangerous precedent.The savages propbably have deemed it a religious noble not to apologise. But a true religion, which is the sublime civilizer, emphatically condemns this kind of faith. Who else is in doubt that the killing of innocent christians in the north is the very spirit of the devil? Yet some still proximate and prescribe that we live sensitively together with bunch of vile and comptemptible religious fanatics?, whose defense of Mohamedanism is to contruct others to be conquered by religious misfortune, seek a revenge by parading the severed head of another. It is unchristian and a holy wrong to the max. Providence is indeed with pain.
How can we have freedom, equity, show compassion and sensitivity when we live together under defiance and religious laws. We cannot voice our feelings without fear of Blasphemy? at least not in the philosophical sense as the Desert Rats [Hausa/Fulani] act not only under religious compulsion but also by the forces of satatic verses. This is a dangerous mixture of cocktail. They will never achieve anything good by being irresolute. The Hausa/Fulani hemisphere have consistently told us that the deep social change we are seeking for is incompatible with their way of life, not consistent with their version of democracy. A bold reason the Trophy was given to Obasanjo without sweat and blood. Any changes to accommodate or live in harmony will be wrought not by reasoning but by riffles and bullets. Yet we continue to pretend that all is well in Biafranigeria. With this, the next big thing for us is REVOLUTION especially Ndi -Igbo. And we need to start by moving back East.
ADVISE
All the Eastern state governors should have bill boards warning Christians the dangers of traveling and Geographical relocation both in the North and West. If they care about Ndi Igbo, this is the best public service. ASAP
Hail Biafra
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MR G.W BUSH, LEND ME YOUR EARS AND FIGURE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ARAB ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAQ,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN AND THE TALIBANS OF AFGHANISTHAN.
If the Americans refuse to fight this emerging evil now, will they be able to contian the explosion of the subsquent anarchy and terrorism, if the Americans refuse to act today, will they have the morality to call it evil when the Americans attacked and slughtered like the Biafran christians by the nigerian talibans, the jihadist of nigeria are worse than the talibans of Afghanisthan, their real colours is now bein exposed, it is left for the free world to act against this emerging evil before the impending doomsday.
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"MR G.W BUSH, LEND ME YOUR EARS AND FIGURE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA, ARAB ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAQ,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN AND THE TALIBANS OF AFGHANISTHAN."--Okwy.
Okwy: Unfortunately, that will NEVER come to pass. It is because of the hypocrisy of our so-called christian compatriots and the "christian" west that makes me often ask that we thred with CAUTION. You bet that as long as there is OIL in BiafraNigeria you can forget any western nation intervening in the madness that has been going on there. On the other hand, we Igbos should also learn the politics of self-preservation and protection by not falling into our enemy's trap.
Any of us who is serious in the LONG-TERM solution of Igbos being pree to other nationalities in Nigeria should encourage good leadership amongst Igbos and condemn bad ones, even if they come from same womb with us. Because most of those Igbos who are scattered outside Igboland (like most of us in the Diaspora) are not there by choice, rather they are there BY NEED.
The moment a Yoruba man for instance knows that an Igboman living abroad can fly in and from one international airport based in Igboland without needing to pass through Lagos, he will be forced to look for job in the east and by that he will not be so disrespectful as they are today when we MUST pass through their airports, seaports, better-done roads, and so forth to get to the infrastructure-dry east. Same will apply when an Hausaman is FORCED to open a clearing agency in Onitsha for example because there is a seaport there. The reason most northerners and westerners take Igbos for granted is because they know that they (Igbos) will still come back to their territory OUT OF NEED. Experience has shown that most landlords respect (not necessarily like) a tenant who has the possibility in the future or does own his own house elswhere.
Lets listen to what Ojukwu said in Owerri a couple of weeks ago: whatever you do or position you have, think Igbo FIRST. It is only when ordinary Igbos, those in position of power and those of us in the Diaspora THINK, ACT as good Igbo ambassadors and INVEST our human and material resources in Igboland can we see less of what took place in Kaduna and those before it. For so far history has shown that killing and reprisal killing is NOT and WILL NEVER BE the LONG TERM solution.
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ALL; As I had earlier suspected, the Miss World Pageant was not a "private" affair as Nigerian government officials had sold it to the world.
As the link below shows, it has vindicated those of us who suspected from the beginning that hosting of the Miss world event was a PUBLICITY STUNT (involving Nigerian tax payers money) by Obasanjo and his loyalists:
Now you guys know why the hue and cry over the Miss World and the "conspiracy" theory put up by Nigeria's dis-information Minister Gerry Gana?
My question is where would this put the Igbos if we had gone to "war" as some who are yet to grasp the intricacies of Nigerian politics had advocated?
For the neophates of Nigerian political school, the Miss World event and its aftermath should be a lesson. Because Nigerian politics is the more you look, the less you see. And NEVER believe ALL that you see.
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Now we know why British is bent on protecting one Nigeria at all cost, there is where their bread is buttered. Mrs Obusonju dolling out checks while Nigeria masses go hungry. They say Charity begins at home, except in the case of Nigeria where it begins abroad.
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The chaos in Kaduna should be blamed on the organizers of the beauty pageant. They knew the consequences of playing with ones faith, and they got it.
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That is the most idiotic reasoning/justification that I have heard in this forum. I'm speechless honestly. How can you blamed the killing of innocent people on organizers of a pageant and not on the fanatics that did the killing. Give me a break!!
What is idiotic and lack of reasoning about what I said? I still insist the organizers who hail from the South could have avoided the mayhem if the contest was taken to Port Harcourt or Lagos.
Perhaps, one would take it that they were attempting to show off Abuja since Stella Obasanjo was a personal friend to the Bruce-Murray family. How many shows has the Murray family staged in the North since their promotions?
Think about it. They could have avoided it.
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My point is that you did not in anyway blame the Jihadits that did the killing but blamed the organizers 100%. I think both are to be blamed. Organizers partially while the Jihadits/Killers totally. That is what I'm trying to make you understand.
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Both your lunatic alamajeri brothers and their corrupt clerics that never see anything good in decency and progress are responsible of the carnage, mayhem, cold blood assasination, looting and arson perpetueted against innocent people in the name of religion, the hallmark of any relgion that preach with the name of GOD is peace, tolarance and co-existance, if Islam is a violent religion that can not at least tolarate other views, it most disband.
I did said it before, there will be no excuse for wicked men to unleash terror on innocent people who's only crime was going about their daily business, Bature, if you have no courage to dis-own this barbaric acts, then there is blood in your own hand.
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Another challenge for Obasanjo. As for me I just want to make it clear through this medium that If anything happens to Isioma, The Core North of BiafraNigeria will witness carnage, wastage and total Retribution. Those that condone their madness can forward my post to those satanic & talibanic extremists.
'I'll Take Responsibility for Fatwa On Isioma'
Daily Trust (Abuja)
December 5, 2002 Posted to the web December 9, 2002
Abdu Labaran Katsina
As the controversy on the legitimacy of the fatwa passed on Isioma Daniel, author of the blasphemous article in ThisDay continues, a leading Izala cleric in Katsina State, Ustaz Abdul Basir Unguwar Kano Kankara, has said that he will take full responsibility in the event that the life of the writer is taken by any Nigerian Muslim.
Speaking to Daily Trust, Ustaz Abdul Basir declared that he was fully prepared to accept total responsibility for the killing of Isioma Daniel whenever it takes place, arguing that she is now a legitimate target for execution by Muslims wherever they may be.
"By writing what she wrote, that ungodly woman has signed her death warrant literally and so there is no stopping us from carrying out the fatwa as decreed by the Zamfara State government," he said, adding that it is a duty to Islam to carry out the order.
He asserted that those who are against the fatwa are nothing but "apologists of the Federal Government which in turn is an apologist of the satanic American government whose hatred for and machinations against Islam know no bounds."
The cleric, who enjoys a large followership as well as the confidence of the Izala high command in Katsina State took partial exception to the stance of the federal and Katsina State governments on matters that affect the interest of Muslims and/or Islam, asserting that their commitment to the cause of Nigerian Muslims and Islam in general leaves a lot to be desired.
He attributed the spate of moral, psychological and physical attacks on Islam and Muslims in the country, especially in the last three years, to what he described as the "laid-back and non-challant attitude of the Federal Government to whatever concerns Muslims and/or their religion."
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quote: As for me I just want to make it clear through this medium that If anything happens to Isioma, The Core North of BiafraNigeria will witness carnage, wastage and total Retribution.
I hear you. Some of my Ibo brothers think they can just type and ballistic missiles will give them Biafra. If that guy Ohafia does not match his words by action in real life then he is the reason the Ibo are playing second fiddle.
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Nwa Asaba: Ohaofia is real in both words and deed, the issue is "U" what is your agenda to see that the Igbo do not play secound fiddle agian to use your own words, or say, to stop the reaccurance of the Asaba stadium massacare during the Baifran/Nigerian war?. who feels it knows it, Ohaofia Udemezue is right.
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Please welcome. All I ask is that you remain objective in selling whatever you believe. I personally wish I could match ALL my words with action. And another thing, Ohafia doesn't waste time defending Ohafia which is but an internet handle.
But bababoyz and his group of pacifists should make no mistake, if Isioma comes to harm in any way, not only are we going to make the core north miserable, but even Otta may not be left out.
I was in Aba when genocidal Awolowo was stoned. I do not regret my part in that episode. I was on the ground in Kano '91. When the jihadists took Ibadan and burnt the statue of Christ at UI in '86, we dared them to come to Aba. Any idiot who kills Igbo has signed his/her death warrant. It doesn't matter how long it takes us.
Onye akpa kwala nwa agu aka n'odu........
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quote:Any idiot who kills Igbo has signed his/her death warrant. It doesn't matter how long it takes us. --- Ohafia Udumeze
Those who killed Igbo citizens in Kaduna and Abuja will soon learn that no one kills an Igbo and gets away with it. Obasanjo will also learn that his cowardice in the North will not be the last word in our quest for justice.
As for the fatwa on Isioma Daniel, the record is clear that the barbaric call to murder was issued by the leaders of islamic Nigeria. Therefore, if Isioma should come to harm, a state of bloody war SHALL immediately develop between Nd'Igbo and the muslims of BiafraNigeria, and the war shall not end until every muslim in that country bows before the Ikenga.
It goes without saying that the war shall not end until the governor and deputy governor of Zamfara state as well as the leaders of islam in Nigeria are rounded up and liquidated. The islamic animals in Nigeria will soon learn that the life and honor of an Igbo woman are far more sacred than the barbaric teachings of their confused prophet, Mohammed.
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Brother OU Give Nwa Asaba the benefits of the doubt because he is new and doesn't know you. My brother you Igbo identity or your testicular furtitude is never in doubt. You are man of action, though those who doesn't know you will not understand. Yes my Brother what Happened to Awo in 1979 was well documented. My only regret was that Olisiego Obusonjo feared retarliation and buried our Igbo Brothers in a mass grave, that is another nail on Obusonjo's coffin, Igbos are not buried outside their home land. The Governors who cowardly colluded with Obusonjo to carry this out, will pay a big price for it when time comes.
As for Bababoyz Adewusi, at the zero hour, nobody will listen to him when he asked to take off his agbada first before fighting.
Who else doesn't know who Bababoyz is in this forum. On several occasions, he refused to answer questions posed to him regarding his family's questionable character in defrauding an entire nation.
His lazy fatass is out there, somewhere in the United States on the "goodwill" of looted money.
For Nwa Asaba, I do not know if he will be able to handle the heat even by fastening his seat belt. I wish him a safe journey in Biafranigeriaworld.
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quote:Originally posted by Nwa Asaba: bababoyz:If that guy Ohafia does not match his words by action in real life then he is the reason the ---Ibo--- are playing second fiddle.
Mbu aaaaru,
Nwa Asaba, welcome. as they say here, fasten your seat belt as the ride does get very bumpy here.
You couldn't have picked on a nicer but more resolute man who will gladly sacrifice for others. Biafra summed it all up.
It probably would help to read past threads, but my hope is that you don't just take a swing and then ask questions later, if so, then welcome still my brother. y
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