Whom would you rather was selected. While most of us Biafrans at BNW are not interested in the so-called Igbo presidency, be rest assured that it should not be your choice whom our people send to deal with you.
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Way to go! APGA. Now BiafraNigeria finally gets the opportunity to choose a man of substance to run it for the first time since it's paper independence from the House of Windsor. It has always been clear to me that the design by the globalists to use BiafraNigeria as a cashcow for itself has been possible only because men of limited know-how like the Yoruba moron have run that unfortunate country since 1970. Contract out the damn place for ten years to a responsible Biafran like APGA is ready to do, and you'll begin to record the Igbo magic in no time at all. What is our neighbors and the West afraid of?
Last chance to rescue the Black man worldwide under BiafraNigeria. Way to go APGA!
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Is Ojukwu a member of this party? If he is, I will advise that he sit out active politics and be a father figure, a mentor kanna, to the younger generation of men and women of both APGA and BiafraNigeria. I like the guy, heck he is our inlaw, but I think that at almost 70, he should just sit this one out. I like John Nnia Nwodo since Jim will not be a candidate for the Presidency this coming election.
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Well said ednut. Ojukwu should go and sit down and educate the younger generation based on his past mistakes. Personally, I'm not interested in Igbo presidency because it's not critical to our common aspirations. Any new president from southern biafranigeria will be a puppet of the hausa-fulani caliphate just like Obusonjo. This move by Ojukwu simply confirms my inclinations that there won't be an igbo president next yr or maybe no elections at all. Most nigerians are afraid of Ojukwu and definitely don't want him. How many igbo presidential candidates do we have?. I can't even count them. I don't know what's going on in biafra but I hope the apparent disarray is some sort of strategy. Our ppl should learn to leave all these old folks that have failed us when they had their chance. I hope he loses in the primaries if it ever takes place. We need young revolutionaries and new faces without any taint on them.
You said well. The question here is, are the "young revolutionaries" willing and committed; and do they have the guts to move boldly in turning things around?
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Onumaraekwu, I haven't seen anybody yet let alone one with guts except maybe Uwazuruike. In as much as he didn't do a lot, he showed some guts. What we need is ppl with guts like him as well as insight to adopt the right strategy while we're still entrapped in biafranigeria. I think that our new path has to be cautious and wise. It has to be largely economic and educational. By education, I mean making ppl aware of the catastrophic implications of the continued entrapment in the failed union of biafranigeria. There is no future in BN and it is destined to collapse. Let us make hay while the sun shines. First of all we need to put our house in order and have unity of purpose. Hero worshiping should cease with imideate effect. A hero to me is someone with something to show for his heroism. Ojukwu clearly doesn't have one. My heroes are those dead and disabled Biafran soldiers who have been reduced to beggers after having fought for the noblest of causes. The recent action of Ojukwu reflects badly on Igbo people b/c it indicates a house on fire. It would have been better if igbos didn't make all this noise and big deal about the presidency. Beleive me, the only good news I've heard about biafraland in recent yrs is the disqualification of mbadinuju(Anambra state governor).
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How can you hope to win an election in Nigeria when you nominate your tribal hero? Do you think that other Nigerians are fools? All you will have is a feel good election season with your Biafra hero and nothing else.
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Minus Folanke [waka-about]who is bent on making disparaging remarks rather than reasoning to a valid question, I agree with the rest of you. Dim should step aside and act as a certifiable consultant.He has proven himself as our founding father, graceful leader and well learned warrior. An entry into politics as not so a viable candidate for Presidency will diminish his capacity as a hailed leader. I am not particularly thrilled. This entry is demonstrative of a desparado and a dinnasour who refuses to be extinct. Very typical of African leadership. We don't want that. I don't give a damn what any one says, Alex Ekwueme should carefully be reassessed and given another chance. Hail Biafra
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I'm in complete agreement with you. APGA has done well by selecting Ojukwu the Ikemba Nnewi, Eze Igbo Gburu Gburu to be its Presedential Candidate.
For the Ojukwu BASHERS in this forum, you all will be disappointed when he wins.
Just listen to the arguements you people make in against him running (1) He is too old at 68 years old. You smart pants, can any of you tell me how old Ronald Reagan was when he become the President of United States Of America. Can you tell me how old Nelson Mandela was when he came out of prison to become the president of South Africa? Folks age has nothing to do with it. Give the guy a chance. I know he will be a whole lot better than what we have had as nigerain leaders. (2) He should stay away and train younger generation because his time has passed. Again Folks, Nigeria does not need on the job training President at this time. Things are so bad that Nigeria needs a capable man for the job. A man like Ojukwu who has proven himself once before is the man for the job.
GO OJUKWU AND WIN THE DAMN THING. I WILL BE HERE TO SEE YOUR BASHERS IN THIS ROOM BE MEN AND WOMEN ENOUGH TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU.
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Nwabiafra, The boys above meant no harm to Ojukwu, or should I consider them as bashful.They just did not word their sentences quite convincingly. I definifitely agree with you, age should not matter. However; what is the possible probability of Dim winning any state within and outside the strong hold of Ndi Igbo? . How feasible is that, looking at his record with exclusivity,a well established defender of Ndi Igbo? Or is Apga only using Ojukwu as a national salesman for the party? Remember, Presidency requires diversity but senates and house of reps does not. Forget about the age thing but just the facts about the regional probability [chances] of winning the Presidency.
Hail Biafra
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Some people never cease to amaze me sometimes. Amadi O and Nwabiafra. Wake up from your dream world. If u guys are the type of people on this forum then Biafra actualization is still very far especially when you can't even use common sense. I'm very disapponted with your one dimensional thinking. Has it occurred to you that Ojukwu lost a senatorial primaries in Igboland b4?. Ojukwu was intelligent but was not of the caliber to lead a nation as complex as Biafra. He needed a good number people around him but he did the direct opposite and didn't trust anyone. He was concerned more with keeping his position as head of state than effective running of state affairs. Even some of his actions created serious problems for the Biafran army. His recent action just shows how unfit he is when it comes to leadership. He can't resist the limelight and wants all the good things. If you people are still looking up to Ojukwu for leadership then we've not moved forward an inch in this area. This igbo presidency stuff is a joke. Obusonjo will continue to serve the caliphate come 2003, end of story!.
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What I find most offensive is the type of racist-tribalist and destructive reporting that the BBC engages in whenever it is covering news about Nd’Igbo. According to the BBC, the
quote: declared a separatist Republic of Biafra for his south-eastern ethnic Ibo people in 1967
Does the BBC mind telling its audience the name of the “rebel group” that Ojukwu was the leader of? The old Eastern Region, which Ojukwu headed, was a creature of the British themselves, and it was the British that educated Ojukwu at Oxford and their military academies to prepare him to lead the multinational and multicultural Republic of Biafra. If one may ask, what was the name of the "south-eastern ethnic Ibo" General that allegedly surrendered Biafra to the British and the Nigerians?
So, why does the British seem so confused about whom Ojukwu was leading between 1967 and 1970? If there was any doubt that the motive was to ignite anti-Igbo emotions, the BBC erased those doubts when it carefully and exclusively selected these two picture to go with a report about partisan politics in 2002, instead of using one of the thousands of pictures of Ojukwu that are in the BBC archive.
It is good to know that the BBC does not leave itself out of the realm of filthy journalism laced with tribal and racist emotiveness, which some people thought was the exclusive province of the Hausa-Fulani Daily Trust, Arewa Triumph, and the Ngwati Press. No wonder the BBC tabloid gave free reigns to Taliban Souleimanu Habuba to spew forth his anti-Igbo yellow journalism.
When the blood of BiafraNigerians starts to flow in next year’s elections, we should all remember the role that the British played in inciting the people to murder and destruction. At least they were kind enough to admit that there were at least 1, 000, 000 victims, murdered in the British orchestrated Nigeria-Biafra war.
In any case, the British should really be careful that they not cause a truly Igbo war. Such a war will not end until we take it to No. 10 Downing Street and Buckingham Palace.
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Selecting the rularship of a geographic expression like nigeria does not remove my hair atall, my concern, if Ndiigbo should present a candidate, Dim Ojukwu is the man. The massage is that his candidature speaks volume of the reality of the Biafran State.
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Folks, you guys continue to make the argument of the ignorant and the enemy; those who don't wish to see smiling faces in black Africa: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu is a spent force, too divisive, too old to fix BiafraNigeria. If you're talking about revising the decay and building up the economy, who better to call up for this job than Mr. Ojukwu - the one who has already proven himself, a man who operates at the cutting adge, where the rubber hits the road. A man who knows how the competitor and the tricksters in the West operate, those who want to globalize Africa. You have to give BiafraNigeria the best of the Igbo bred. Isn't it why they have always opposed him: He will end the looting. He's got the guts to look them up in the eyes and tell them to **** off with their little but deadly games.
People, we should all be asking the second rate candidates in the contest to step aside for the best of the black bred: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu. This is now a question of character for we Africans: do you continue to bleed BiafraNIgeria by letting the dim-witted Yoruba moron and such characters in charge, or do you make a complete and clean break and allow the best of them all to fix the problem in BiafraNigeria. The world is watching!
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What I find most amazing of all, is when people of inferior intellect have the guts to crtizise their by far intellectual superiors:
A brat like ogbunigwe, the renowned coward ever ready to bow down to the despotic neo nazi regime, has the guts to come and question the ability and intellect of a hero of the igbos.
Lets stop talking about Ojukwu, a man whom the world FEARS and RESPECTS,
lets talk about you ogbunigwe, yes I want to talk about you...
What makes you so special, that you think that your opinion is so important and what first hand experience do you have in the political arena.
Once again my take on you::
A coward, not a true Biafraphile, a man best described as a groveller, who will grovel to anyone in power in order to attain his own goals (goals which he himself is not quite sure of, for they cahnge day to day)
Listen to this igbo my people, and rest assured you will continue to be massacred by the road sides as he pleads PATIENCE.
Ever an optimist he finds stark reality unpleasnt to confront and as such he rationalizes all manners of excuses for his peoples enemies.
Looking for the easy way out..... ???
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Ijeomannutu, I'll let the readers and other forumites be the judge. I'll not decend to your level by calling names. I must admit I was a bit abrasive in my initial exchanges with u and that was a mistake. Now your incoherent rants here clearly indicates a serious intellectual handicap on your part. When you haven't done your home work or have limited knowledge, don't jump in and throw insults around. We are supposed to learn from history so as not to repeat past mistakes. I'm not dismissing Ojukwu's brilliance but he had his chance and he bungled it. I'm well aware of the enormous odds facing Biafra but a better leadership would have yeilded results different from today. Ojukwu can serve better in an advisory role. Pls do a detailed research and besides, I'm entitled to my own views as long as they are true and rational. Don't expect me to say what you like and I didn't mention your name in this thread for that matter. Pls, let's try and keep the discourse civil. If Biafra had succeded, I'm sure that Ojukwu will be a life president. Now, I have some simple questions for you: Who will vote for Ojukwu outside of Igboland?. What do you make of Gowon's recent utterances?. Don't u know that most of biafranigeria feel that way about him?. I know biafranigeria elections are basically a poorly disguised smokescreen for northern Oligargy appointments. What makes u thing they'd favor Ojukwu's selection?. Don't you know that any so called president in biafranigeria would always be an impotent figure head as long as he is of southern BN extraction?. You think Ojukwu will singlehandedly bring a dead state back to life?...with so many wolves hanging around him. You said I'm pleading for patience which I never did but that's irrelevant. What do u suggest?. I hope it's not your crazy igbo mass vigilanteism. Can you tell me how we'll do it and do u see any consequences for such an action?. Seriously, you definitely are on the wrong side when it comes to my opinions regarding Biafra actualization. Frankly, u are the only one living in an illusionary world after choosing to ignore the reality. I feel sorry for you. In short, I'm tired of ppl like u. grow up!. I wonder what u'll say now about mbadinuju's disqualification. The only one to suffer such a fate among most siting governors in BN. A man u refused to criticize but rather chose to haul insults at me. The ppl of Anambra have now spoken!. That's how evil he was. The worst among all the bad eggs. I guess I wasn't so crazy afterall. Pls read through all my posts carefully and understand it b4 hauling insults once more.
You are making the same kind of excuses for the failure of today. Look, people expect real results from a manager with $15b annual budget: pick power supply and solve it completely, at least in a few locations. That's how a manager is graded. Of course, anyone can do better than Olusegun Obasajo in results-oriented management, but Odumegwu Ojukwu's record stands out.
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Thankyou Ogbunigwe, for a response with a lot of questions, which nevertheless was just as insulting....
You failed to answer the questions i posed to you, which I will repeat at the end of this response, namely that i really want to know more about you.
Who will vote for Ojukwu outside of igbo land?
I think this question was redundant. Your question should have been more appropriately phrased:
WHO OUTSIDE OF THE SOUTHEAST AND THE NIGER DELTA WOULD VOTE FOR ANY CANDIDATE PRESENTED TO THEM ORIGINATING FROM THE SAME AREA.
The answer to this question is a foredrawn conclusion: No candidate we present to them will ever be acceptable.
The point is not that it is Ojukwu, the point you are missing is that it is because ojukwu is igbo that he would never be voted for outside of igbo land.
WHAT SHOULD THE EASTERN RESPONSE BE TO THIS OVERT DISCRIMINATION?
Should our response be, to cower in the sidelines because we are playing into the hands of our superiors, and are co operating with our oppressors to abuse us further? In short, by refusing to field legitimate candidates because "we already know we cannot win" because of the inherent bigotry in Nigeria we are responding as they want us to respond.
NO OUR RESPONSE IS DESIGNED TO PLEASE NO ONE BUT OUR OWN PEOPLE, WE REFUSE TO ASSUME THE ROLE WHICH THEY WANT TO GIVE US WHICH IS THAT OF THEIR INFERIORS IN PERPETUITY.
Therefore, the southeastern agenda, should be to field as many candidates as it pleases to run for office.
So, WHY NOT OJUKWU?
As far as I know he was "pardoned" by this neo nazi regime, and he as a free citizen has every right to follow his own conscience.
THE REASON YOU ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED AS USUAL TO "ROCK THE BOAT". Instead of head on facing up to the problems of our existence in this neo nazi state, which can not and has not been able to fulfill the aspirations of our peoples.
#2. " If Biafra had succeeded, I'm sure that Ojukwu will be life president".
First and foremost Biafra did succeed: the state of Biafra was a reality for 3 years. This was obviously at great cost, but that great cost was imposed upon us by a cruel and unfeeling world which allowed 2 million Biafrans to be starved to death in an act of mass genocide by the very same people who now claim to be our rulers.
The human toll for biafra was not the fault of ojukwu or of anyone else in biafra: it was the fault of our enemies, who for the prospect of monetary gain, placed no value on human life they deemed inferior to their own.
"I'm sure that Ojukwu will be a life president."
This cynical attitude of yours demonstrates clearly that you have read very little of the political declarations of ojukwu. You have flippantly disregarded his statements at the Ahiara declaration, his defiant position against the west that they disregarded the human toll of Biafra because of the blackness of our skin.
Ojukwu talked of genocide in 1967.
YOU THEN WENT ON TO RAVE AND RANT ABOUT THE FEELINGS OF NIGERIANS ABOUT OJUKWU:
Clarification needed badly, I am a person of honour, i am a friends friend and an enemies enemy:
I do not make that fatal mistake about caring about the feelings of people who dont care about my feelings:
IN SHORT I DONT CARE WHAT THEY FEEL!!!!!!!!
#3. " You think that Ojukwu would singlehandedly bring a dead state back to life?"
Again you are working from that cynical perspective, which is cynical only in so far as the possibilities of the realisation of Biafra are concerned and oh so cautious; but in stark contradistinction, you are so optimistic about the Nigerian state and its dealings with the east!
BIAFRA IS NOT DEAD, IT NEVER DIED, IT WILL NEVER DIE.
In so far as the aspiration is alive even if only in the hearts of our people, she has not only succeeded, but she is alive.
No state totalitarian or despotic, or neo nazi, or super power, can remove this aspiration from our hearts, no one can stop our realisation of our own independent state, they can attempt to stall it, but we will be free!
Long live Biafra.
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Chekwas Okorie, chairman of the All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), told Reuters Emeka Ojukwu, 68, would represent the party in the April 19 presidential election. ''We just have to ratify his candidature at our convention, which will take place on January 10 at Abuja,'' he said. ''It's a formality, so you can go ahead and regard him as our candidate.'' Ojukwu remains a key leader of his Ibo people, one of the three largest of about 300 ethnic groups in Africa's most populous country and a main combatant group in the Biafra war. The APGA, closely identified with Ibo interests, became a registered party this year and will be among 30 groupings eligible to compete in the poll. Just three parties were eligible to contest the last election in 1999. The voting will be a crucial test of Nigeria's democratic credentials. More than 10,000 people have died in ethnic, political and religious violence since military rule ended in 1999 in the West African state, which has never seen a transfer of power from one civilian government to another. Ojukwu declared independence for a swathe of southeastern Nigeria in May 1967 as the Republic of Biafra. Estimates of people killed in the civil war that followed range from 500,000 to two million. Ojukwu's forces surrendered in January 1970. Ojukwu fled into exile in Ivory Coast but returned to Nigeria after being pardoned in 1982. In a speech last year, he said a Biafran state remained a ''worthy alternative'' in present-day Nigeria and called for a national conference to draw up a new constitution. Okorie said the APGA planned to form alliances with other parties as the electoral strength of candidates became clearer, which could mean eventually transferring its support to another party's candidate.
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Ogbunigwe said .................................................. Some people never cease to amaze me sometimes. Amadi O and Nwabiafra. Wake up from your dream world. If u guys are the type of people on this forum then Biafra actualization is still very far especially when you can't even use common sense. ..................................................
I was going to immediately respond to you after reading your write-up but after reading the response from IJEOMAANNUNTU, he did such a good job that I will hold of my direct response to your write-up.
However the only thing I have to say about you is that if you really believe in the ACTUALIZATION OF BIAFRA then I Nwabiafra believes that Nigeria is not a dead country.
Just listen to yourself. Please tell us in this forum who you really are? What is your agenda? You sure does not sound like someone that believes that Biafra will be ACTUALIZED. It seems to me that you are one of those ONE-NIGERIA apologist. Am I wrong? I bet I'm not.
Finally, in you case common sense is actually not that common. You might want to go and get the common sense.
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You guys were totally wrong about me. The dead country I refered to in my write up was nigeria and not Biafra. I'm not a one nigeria apologist. Every sane person knows that nigeria has no future. It'll collapse sooner or later....it's just a matter of time. My stance is basically that we should be prepared to cease our opportunity when the time is right. Everybody knows Obusonjo is the biggest moron and coward of all time. Even a toothless baby can do better. All I'm saying is that we need to put our house in order and adopt the strategy of beating the nigerians in their own game. The attached APGA article seems to suggest that but a lot still needs to be done. You ppl seem to have the attitude that Ojukwu makes no mistakes and is above criticism. I did not say Ojukwu caused the death of millions of Biafrans. We all know who was responsible. Ojukwu was both brilliant and charismatic but fell short in fundamental areas....trust and flexibility in particular(especially in Biafran military circles). Ojukwu hails from the same village as my mother in Nnewi but that doesn't mean I shouldn't say what I think of him. Anyway, I'm in a hurry now but I'll respond further when I come back.
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In another forum, I read a bunch of Ekwueme supporters saying that Ojukwu is too old and he should make way for younger people. Does anyone one know who is older, Ojukwu or Ekwueme?
But there are signs of trouble in APGA,
quote:APGA Divided Over Ojukwu's Adoption as Presidential Candidate
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The adoption of Ikemba Nnewi, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu as consensus presidential candidate of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA)is threatening to tear the fabrics of the party, as some members of the party's executive have dissociated themselves from the move, saying that the national chairman, Chief Chekwas Okorie acted on his own.
They called on Okorie to tread the path caution and not derail the group ideal which informed the founding of the party.
The National Treasurer of APGA and a governorship aspirant in Anambra state, Chief Ralphs Okey Nwosu, who spoke for other aggrieved party members stated that while Ojukwu possessed the qualities needed to fly the party's flag, the matter was not discussed before it was made public.
"I am not aware that the party (APGA) discussed Ikemba's candidature", he said adding, "he is eminently qualified but things must be done appropriately because when we set up APGA our goal was to do things properly and constitutionally unlike other parties".
He faulted Okorie's position that Ojukwu's candidature was arrived at after 'hard analysis, saying that the party's leadership was not carried along.
APGA National Chairman, Chief Chekwas Okorie, had announced Thursday that the party had adopted Ojukwu as the consensus presidential candidate in the 2003 presidential election.
At a press conference in Enugu, the chairman said that the decision was taken after a 'hard analysis' of all those aspiring for the plum job on the platform of the party.
According to him, the party had in the last six months screened and interviewed discreetly all the personalities from the south-east geo-political zone, who had expressed intention to contest the presidential elections in 2003.
He said however that the decision would be subject to the approval of National Executive Committee (NEC) and ratification by a special convention of the party to be held in Abuja on January 10, 2003.
But in calling for restraint on the part of the National Chairman, Nwosu urged him to toe the party line by upholding the party constitution adding "there is no need doing secretly things you can do openly and get accolade".
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