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Ndigbo, is no longer missing in action! He says,
quote: Fellow Nigerians, I thank Kunle for the effort he made in setting this up. I hope that in due time we all shall contribute to sustain this site. We must not allow what happened to Nigeriaworld to visit this site. BigK, make sure you no go ban me o. Thank you for taking the bull by the horn and I hope that in no distant time every one of us from Nigeriaworld would find a link to this site. Aside, someone should tell Obasanjo to remove monkey hand from the pot of soup. Thank you for listening. God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
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Sulaak Welcome to BNW! And feel free to put your opinion across forcefully no matter who is on the other side of the debate. You may wish to know that BNW was established as a direct response to attempts by the NigeriaWorld message board, of blessed memory, to deny freedom of speech to those who clashed with friends of the owner.
Wacko, Thanks a million times for a wonderful search and rescue operation! May I use this opportunity to appeal to all to continue the search.
Did you see them? Or, perhaps you heard what they have been saying about Sweet-talk.com? Let us know!
EmirKongi Small/Big-K/ found Aji
Bamidele I HATE NIGERIAfound
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As the search continues, I love Nigeria surrendered willingly.
quote: CONGRATULATIONS! Thank U Big K! For being proactive and thinking this up!
It is about time! A replacement/alternative to Nigeriaworld messageboard!
There was loss of Archives, there was a claim of a lack of Back-up/Recovery plan for data and as a consequence, valuable data were lost frequently/erratically, one-man business can be run effectively and efficiently!
There were unannounced changes by the minute! There are non-Nigerian web boards that I belong to, and they are transparent, accountable and open in their activities and they will make public annoncement of pending changes before such changes are undertaken! They have consideration!
There is no censorships or bans of participants! Unless and except in clearly ergregious cases!
Nigerians need a vibrant and responsive messageboard, accountable, transparent and open.
How come physicians never take their own medicines? Those ultra critical of Nigerian government and Nigerian leadership are soon to underperform? Where is the beef? Why the angst?
Some Nigerians even in this part of the world find it difficult to imbibe good business practice and democratic ideal? Lets criticize the government of Nigeria! The easiest thing!
It is certainly a relief to have an alternative to Nigeriaworld, an alternative that surpasses Nigeriaworld!
Lets do it!
I LOVE NIGERIA!!!!!
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How una go be Ibo president if the ibo guy no fit run a messageboard? Na wah oh! Anyway, one of the girls for that sex forum be like say she dey ready for biafra man. Hahaha!!
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So e don start already? When bobo wey dey for sex forum come talk say "Lets do it!" Na wetin him wan do? Na wah!!" Make una make sure say "I Love Nigeria" no rape anyone sha.
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I must admit that not having egbeomooduduwa.com feels sort of eery, the way George W feels after Saddam Hussein, America after Richard Nixon. We don't have Saddam (egbeomooduduwa.com) to kick around any more. But, I think that the new Marriage Board(s) are part of the same 'axis of evil.' We should just name them axisofevil.com.
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Many of us knew early that egbeomooduduwa.com would end up in an unmarked Internet grave. We just did not know that it would share the grave with prostitutes, pimps, and whores. But, we should have known.
I nominate Chucky for the Pimp of the Year award. After he sold my e-mail address to fraudulent business outfits, I knew I could not put anything past him.
quote:Originally posted by Bamidele: So e don start already? When bobo wey dey for sex forum come talk say "Lets do it!" Na wetin him wan do? Na wah!!" Make una make sure say "I Love Nigeria" no rape anyone sha.
Yo forgot the HaHaHaHaHaHaHa
Bams, sorry. I just could'nt pass up the opportunity. heh heh.
___________________ YA CAIN'T KEEP A GOOD MAN DOWN :) Posts: 1183 | From: TEXAS | Registered: Oct 2001
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I'm glad it's now a turning of the tide. The tyrant banned me just for speaking out against Mobolaji Aluko's ridiculous comments and for taking sides with Daud.
___________________ "We are where we are in large part at the moment, because our self-identified leaders of thought have put us there."----Ukpabi Asika Posts: 321 | From: Athens, Ohio USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------- "regardless of our differences there was freedom of expression."---sulaak --------------------------------------------------
Otio! If the "freedom of expression" you meant was the people you mentioned talking about Nigeria without minding the feelings of the peoples therein, then there must be something fundamentally wrong with that "freedom of expression."
Freedom of expression, though should be civil, but must not exclude those like Nwa Aro who question the way Nigeria is presently constituted or the way it was and is still being ruled. It was the refusal of the powers that be at that board that made it lose the respect and popupularity it once commanded. It was to feel that void that Biafra-Nigeria-World message board that accomodates views from members of all three constituencies became necessary and came to be.
So in effect, to have a board like this that gives everyone with diverse viewpoint to air them (though in civil manner) is what true FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION is and should be. That's why this board is known as FREEDOM TRAIN.
As one anonymous thinker said: "Freedom of expression is the lifeblood of any democracy (successful society) ...The greater the volume of such exchange, the better"
Welcome on board! But know that here we worship no one, nor do we hold anyone hostage.
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NWA-ARO,why are you fascinated with the impression that freedom of expression is based on civility?.
Freedom of expression does not travel on a one way street marked 'Civility". The view is that without deviation, without exception, provocation, painful, without any ifs, buts, or whereases, that freedom of speech means you shall not do things to people either for the views they have, or the views they express, or the words they speak or write. The liberty of free expression is a blessing when we are inclined to write against others or praise them. It does not matter if they are Saddam or George Bush. The bottom line is-----speak your mind.
PARA EXAMPLE: In 1976, Flint, an editor of Hustler magazine [Porn] published a text with a cartoon that Jerry Falwel, a born again christian and leader of the Moral Majority had sex with his mother when he was a young boy. He even went further to describe the act with porno. He sued for mental cruelty and defamation of character. He won but appealed to the supreme court, the verdict was reversed, Mr Flint was protected under the free expression thereof. Jesus Christ has been depicted by art lovers in state museums to have sex with Mary Macdaline. The Catholics raised hell but no cigar. It is NWA-ARO's choice either to be civil or provoke thoughts.
quote:I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking. OBASANJO, BABYBOYZ, ATIKU and of course our USMAN KADIRI fits this profile-----------> WAYPOINT IBIAFRA
Hail Biafra
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------- "NWA-ARO,why are you fascinated with the impression that freedom of expression is based on civility?. "--- Waypoint. --------------------------------------------------
It is not Nwa Aro that is "fascinated" with freedom of speech (communicating with others) having to do with civilty. That is what it is and should be among sane (no insult meant) people. Otherwise, it is not communication but WAR OF WORDS. Moreover, survey shows that when a good message is communicated the wrong way it ends up in the trash-can, but when same message is delivered with chosen words and language it is likey to end up in the ACHIVES. You wonder why some films with certain contents never make it at the Oscars?
Quote: -------------------------------------------------- "It is NWA-ARO's choice either to be civil or provoke thoughts."---Waypoint --------------------------------------------------
Has your style (which you now agree is uncivil)provoked "thoughts" or actually killed it? Again, the choice is yours to make. Atleast on this one we can disagree to agree.
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In one of my posts while I Chuck Odili's forum still existed, I argued that the forum should be operated as a marketplace of ideas, accomodating opposing viewpoints. But, that was not possible, and eventually everyone who disagreed with Chuck and his friends was banned. From then on, that forum was reduced to a gatthering of Chuck's yes men and women. I had the following to say when I was anticipatorily banned from there.
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All: Thanks for your solidarity. I am actually fortunate because I was banned at a time when BiafraNigeriaWorld, a direct competition to that forum, was available to me. Many of you here were not so fortunate. As a lawyer, I am honored to have been banned from that cyber-center for gagged speech (a.k.a. Nigeriaworld.com). I WILL NEVER ACCEPT A REINSTATEMENT OF MY POSTING PRIVILEGES AT THAT FORUM. So, let no one plead for reinstatement in my behalf. It is better to have expressed yourself and been banned than to have censored yourself and achieved the same result. Let the anti-free speech thugs do their own dirty work. I will have no part in the censorship of my own freedoms. That role is reserved for the anti-speech barons at that forum. I knew it was coming considering my views at that forum
But, I gave the thought-police at that forum a little more credit than it deserved, believing that the owners had enough decency or enough respect for established norms of civilized behavior to avoid implementing the ban in an anticipatory manner, i.e., in anticipation of my response. I was banned in anticipation of my speech, rather than as a consequence thereto. This ban happened in anticipation of my response to the lies and tall tales of Big Steve. Big Steve needed to be protected from the superior logic that his outburst was bound to elicit.
However, intentionally or otherwise, the owner of Nigeriaworld.com gives an impression of that board's membership as a quasi Chaplinsky hostile audience, in whose behalf a speaker could be restricted because of the potential reaction of the audience, except that in this case, there is significant basis to adduce that these restrictions exist purely to serve the interests of the owner and his cronies, and nobody else. Now, we will have to wait for another opportunity to correct the mis-education of Big Steve.
The causes for which we fight are just. My recent trip to BiafraNigeria has further convinced me that that country, exists to serve the interests of a criminal mob. There is a great deal of internal terror, and an eerie sense of grave physical danger to oneself and anyone who dares to propose an non-official solution to the problems of that failed State. This is why I have the greatest respect for Chief Uwazuruike and MASSOB. On the ground in BiafraNigeria, Uwazuruike and MASSOB have persevered in the face of these dangers. I am confident that we shall achieve the breakup of BiafraNigeria in my lifetime, or in the lifetime of my contemporaries. If I had to do it all again, I WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING. I am proud of everything I wrote at that forum, especially because I was faithful to myself and to my profession.
As an independently owned and operated entity, Nigeriaworld through its owner/operator may be within its rights to adopt irresponsible censorship policies. However, I am a product of a long established tradition of US common law and civil law systems as well as the jurisprudence and ethos that they have spawned, including the longstanding tradition that when a certain entity undertakes to regulate speech and assembly because of the content of what is being communicated, then, at the very minimum, that entity bears a heavy burden of justification. Nigeriaworld.com has been particularly guilty of failing to furnish such mandated justification, even though it has undertaken to regulate speech and assembly because of their content. In keeping with the worst of Abachaesque traditions, Nigeriaworld has in effect given a veto to hecklers such as Big Steve, permitting him and others like him to silence a speaker for speech not yet made, or in anticipation of 'evil' nowhere articulated.
People engaged in protected expression have been unilaterally removed from the forum, and their comments deleted. Important ideas are themselves suppressed, as speech carrying beneficial non-cognitive and emotive/objective values are routinely excised in an offensively discriminatory manner.
Even those who may continue to attempt to defend the obtuse policies at that forum must now face the reality that they themselves continue to participate there under rules that they do not understand and cannot scrutinize. This is an extremely awkward position for any educated person to find himself. That is why I shall not return to that forum to resume my participation.
Finally, I wish to use this opportunity to thank those of you, members of BiafraNigeriaWorld, who were involved in planning my recent trip to BiafraNigeria. Unfortunately, I am not free to share details of the great work that members of this forum have been doing in the background. I thank you for all the special support you rendered to me, both while I was in BiafraNigeria, and while I was in transit in Europe. In the course of this struggle, some of your friends have become my friends.
My promise to all of you who partake in this forum and its freedoms is that you will not be without my support as you exercise your freedoms at BiafraNigeriaWorld. Nor shall you be without counsel in fighting to vindicate the principles from which those freedoms stem. I have fully committed myself to the breakup of BiafraNigeria, and I shall spare no expense, nor shall I rest until that breakup is achieved. This is the only way to bring about the triumph of reason in that geographic space.
I will have more to say about these matters in the future.
The best revenge that persons associated with BNW could have asked for is the emergence of this forum as the most intellectually stimulating forum dealing with BiafraNigerian issues on the Internet. The Who is Who of the old forum is present here, and the numbers are growing on a daily basis. Not only has BNW become a powerful instrument in the dialogue for the future of BiafraNigeria, it is now also, the most intellectually sound voice on the Nigeria question. For starters, it is the only forum of its kind whose members are not pre-shackled in allegiance to a murderous country. I am glad to be associated with BNW.
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Wow Ikemba Front. Ihe tagburu nkita atala aru. what brought you out of ROM? Anyway make I help you with your question. it is Http://nigeriaworld.bnwbc.com. Enjoy, I hear say na there all the old Egbeomo people go tanda.
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Thanks for posting that link. Could the webmaster of Nw and BNW post the link on the front page? I don't think that one man should decide to get rid of all the posts we made and tell us nothing about it. This is indeed the new home of nigeriaworld messageboard You can see the the New Nigeriaworld messageboard has been visited more than 200 times since you put the link. Nigeriaworld made us feel rolled around like this dood.
Methinks, the stage is now set for an ASHILAC-style 72-hour ultimatum from Chuck and his lawyers. Do not respond to any silly whining that does not come directly from egbeomooduduwa.com lawyers. What you will find out about who really owns the rights to Nigeriaworld will surprise you.
Welcome to BNW, the land of the free and the home of the brave. And, a very
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It looks like egbeomooduduwa.com has been liberated from a brutal dictator who gassed his own people's freedom of speech. How come you guys did not tell me you were launching OPERATION EGBEOMO.COM FREEDOM?
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Does this mean that the name Nigeriaworld Messageboard no longer belongs to Odili? Could someone explain?
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I like the new nigeriaworld messageboard. But, why does the link to the mascots go to a Yoruba law firm? I commend you guys for wresting control of the messageboard from Chuck Odili, a semi Yoruba man. Now, all you have to is make sure that the new nigeriaworld messageboard does not fall into the hands of another Yoruba man if it has not already done so. That newnigeria.com site seems like a Yoruba website.
At the time that egbeomooduduwa.com came to its end, the only Igbos using it were Igbo objectors, conscientious and otherwise. Maybe some full-blooded Igbo persons could take control of the new nigeriaworld messageboard and make it a place that anyone could participate without fear of a tyrant.
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quote:Does this mean that the name Nigeriaworld Messageboard no longer belongs to Odili? Could someone explain?
idowu:
Perhaps you should explain why you think that Chuck had a right in the "nigeriaworld" name in the first place, or why you believe that his rights, such as he may have claimed them, are not inferior to the the rights being exercised by vertigo and others?
The liberation of that messageboard is an important development that could lead some of us to consider posting, once again, at a forum with that name.
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Thanks Everybody, we are going to keep a watchful eyes on that newnigeria message board so that it doen't sleep into another Chuck odili gulage.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vanguard is reporting that the AD has been assured of 30ambassor assignments and 10 cabinet posts if OBJ gets re-elected in exchange for their support. This is a very good deal for AD and a good one for democracy in naija. This is how things are done in most democratic nations that form alliances. An OBJ victory will all but assure that their interest are well taken care of because they will also be calling the shots. I hope all these decampees and law suit mongers are watching and learning how to make moves and further their agenda, afterall that's what democracy is all about. Building coalitions for the greater purpose. This deal almost certainly guarantees that AD states will free of violence this year which is very good for our democracy.
I'll also like to see the 20 smaller parties compromise and reach a deal. If they can agree to the same agenda it would certainly be a new ara in naija politics. Back to top --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, 3 cheers for our great Nigerian democracy which fires pesky auditor-generals who detail high level corruption at every nook and cranny of the Obasanjo Administration. Reuben Abati's sunday column (feb. 16) is reporting that on friday feb.14, Mr. Azie, the auditor-general who detailed the mess of the Obasanjo govt was fired and replaced by another more pliant man. I guess it is the AD's chance to "come and chop" (apologies to Chief Sunday Afolabi)? Back to top --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is called resource-sharing since the vision of AD as political party, among which is SNC, is not taken into consideration. What politics is about is the betterment of lives of citizens, we should not be surprised if Obasanjo is unable to guarantee security in the country. Finally if the elections are free and fair, there won't be any problems, in that case Obasanjo has less than 30% chances of being elected. This is the end of AD.
-------------- "They(non-blacks) taught you to sing the praises of their God, And these hosannas, tuned into your sorrows, Gave you the hope of a better world to come. But in your human heart you only asked The right to live, your share of happiness."---Patrice Lumumba Back to top --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Politic is a game of strategies and there is nothing permanent as far as politics is concerned. AD as a political organization took time to evaluate their chances under the political environment and made the best decision that will impactthe party and its teeming supporters.Faced with the bitter reality of either being relevant and big time player or being sent into political oblivion. The party chose to look inward and swallowed the inherent pride for the strategic advantage of political relevance and for equitable share of the national cake. The leadership of AD consumated an alliance that placed them at political advantage. While they are busy building the party to have a respectable national image, the party and its members are at the same time being given prime time of national prominence. Taking one stone to kill two birds, what a Political deft move from AD political strategist. Kudos to our Democracy. It gladdens my heart to see these two political parties play this game as played the world over. Although, we are not privy to the workings of this arrangement, One would hope it would include cooperation in the National Assembly in order to make legislations move quickly. The masses need to see immediate dividends of this political initiatives in their lifes. The only way to make our democracy an enduring and lasting political culture is continous working relationships within our political institutions and the practitioners who share same socio-political and philosophical ideals. This practise will make our new found system an enduring one that will can use as spring board to address most of our socio-political challenges. God Protect and Bless Nigeria Back to top --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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