Could it posibly be the powers that be in Nigeria that selected these two Universities for this grants. Certainly, it has nothing to do with academic achievement since non of the two schools measure up as far as college educational standards, in that country. Say you what?
Carnegie gives N512m grants to UNIJOS, OAU
By Oguwike Nwachuku
Daily Independent, Lagos
The fortunes of two Nigerian universities the University of Jos and Obafemi Awolowo University (OAU), Ile-Ife have changed for the better as they have benefitted from a three-year grant of N512 million ($4 million) announced by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, to enable them implement institutional reform and gender equity projects.
The universities are to receive N206 million ($2 million) each.
The grant is part of Carnegie Corporation's contributions to the foundation partnership to strengthen African universities where a coalition of four United States-based foundations are involved.
"Strong higher education systems are central to the task of rejuvenating African countries from within. We believe an investment in the University of Jos and Obafemi Awolowo University will contribute to creating a vibrant intellectual environment in Nigeria and will nourish social, political, and economic transformation in the region", says Vartan Gregorian, president of the corporation.
In choosing the two Nigerian universities, the corporation said it was determined to work with a few other universities to underscore the importance of higher education in the civic future of Nigeria as the most populous African nation.
"Nigeria is one of the five countries identified by the corporation as partners in its African university strengthening initiative. As with other partner countries, the basic strategy has been to identify innovative universities with effective leadership and invite them to submit proposals for institutional capacity-building programmes that target priority areas identified by them, a statement from the corporation's Public Affairs Office explained.
___________________ Nobody drinks medicine on behalf of a sick person. Posts: 110 | From: United States | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
How did Carnegie know, that this two university will be able to do anything for gender equity. I will not be surprised if somebody in Aso Rock have a hand in all this.
quote:Certainly, it has nothing to do with academic achievement since non of the two schools measure up as far as college educational standards, in that country
.
If Gr-e-e-a-t Ife does not deserve the Carnegie grant, can you please volunteer us with better deserving colleges in Nigeria? I bet, UNN will be top on your list!. Man, quit whining and get a life!
quote:If Gr-e-e-a-t Ife does not deserve the Carnegie grant, can you please volunteer us with better deserving colleges in Nigeria? I bet, UNN will be top on your list!. addy
addy,
We only have one "The University Of Nigeria" and that makes UNN top the list on any other college/institution of higher education in that country. Ife was a regional/city University before it changed its name (God I hope the new PDP governor and OBJ changes it back) now I don't know what to classify it as. Jos is a regional/city University. After "The University of Nigeria", I can see University of Lagos, Enugu State University, and other State Universities deserving of that Carnegie grants b4 city colleges like Ibadan, Ife, Jos, Port Harcourt,etc.
quote:After "The University of Nigeria", I can see University of Lagos, Enugu State University, and other State Universities deserving of that Carnegie grants b4 city colleges like Ibadan, Ife, Jos, Port Harcourt,etc.
Need I say more?
___________________ This war of attrition on the Igbo must end now! Posts: 441 | From: california, US | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Quote: -------------------------------------------------- "If Gr-e-e-a-t Ife does not deserve the Carnegie grant, can you please volunteer us with better deserving colleges in Nigeria? I bet, UNN will be top on your list!."---Addy. --------------------------------------------------
Addy: Away from the tribal jingoism, could you tell the world what made or makes Unife "Greeat" and a REGIONAL university like Unijos more greater than UNN to top the list of Nigerian Universities deserving of such grant?
In trying to be more "national" than you clearly ARE NOT, you guys make mockery of yourselves. When next you want to post, please just be the TRIBALISED Yoruba that your posts portray you to be and stop pretending you are better than those you accuse of "whinning" when they call a spade by its name.
Now tell us how "great" Unife is and how less great UNN is or has become and the criteria used in reaching to that conclusion.
Posts: 997 | From: Germany | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
quote:Addy: Away from the tribal jingoism, could you tell the world what made or makes Unife "Greeat" and a REGIONAL university like Unijos more greater than UNN to top the list of Nigerian Universities deserving of such grant?
In trying to be more "national" than you clearly ARE NOT, you guys make mockery of yourselves. When next you want to post, please just be the TRIBALISED Yoruba that your posts portray you to be and stop pretending you are better than those you accuse of "whinning" when they call a spade by its name.
-Nwa Aro
Ordinarily, one would be tempted to ignore the above as another ranting of a hate-filled, thoroughly confused and appalingnly irredeemable demagogue. The danger in doing that is at great personal injury to all that i stand for.I offer no apologies whatsoever if i have by my writings portrayed myself more as a tribalist and a jingoist. I am however waiting to be informed of your claim to Nationalism sans a rabid inclination to demystifying anything and anybody perceived as anti-Igbo or feeble Igbo in a way and manner that will shame the inventors of the beautiful language of English.In your rush to shoot down contrary opinion, you have elevated the use of gutter polemnics to an art. Here lies the quandry of the Black race. You are ever quick to stigmatize others with a label so convolutedly conceived in your mind that you forget the wisdom in the African proverb that goes something like this: When you point a finger at the face of another, the other four inadvertently points in your direction. It suits you just fine for the Yoruba race to embark on a constant journey of attrition with a Fela Anikulapo as the ship captain, and a Gani Fawehinmi as the compass connoiseur. In that case, the mantra becomes "some Yorubas are fantastic people, i just love them, y'know". On the other hand, when a Professor Aluko affirm a Yoruba educational superiority bunkum, the tone changes to " Those Yorubas again". To all of you who are thus conflicted, reach into the inner recesses of your minds, navigate your compasses deftly through your esophagus, taking care not to tilt/disturb the hate-filled bile, and come to terms with the reality that just as you have a right to defend Igbo, others have the right to defend their own group, afterall you are an Igbo first, Nigerian second, German third - in that order. It does not matter to you that setting up a website in the name of BiafraNigeria.com in itself is a case of tribalism to be met with the charge of high treason(by your logic). You shout yourself hoarse under the guise of an Igbo freedom fighter, i am willing to bet my last cent that if by any trajectory of delusional fancy, you are suddenly catapulted to the pedestal of the Ojo-Maduekes and the Kema Chikwes, the Igbo race will be worse off! and it does not bother your conscience to revel in extreme satisfaction in the decapitation of a hapless Chikwe whose only offense is in refusing to share in your back of the book igbo extremism, and holding her ground in a country where there is an acute dearth of purposeful leaders be they Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, or Ibibios. In a country where the only good leaders are the constant internet bullies and tribal messageboard know-it-all(s). As to your question about what makes Ife great, i refuse to accord such with any more legitimacy by debating it further. Thanks.
___________________ This war of attrition on the Igbo must end now! Posts: 441 | From: california, US | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Addy: You should have done better than shooting the air as you did above. As biafra rightly asked, AFTER THE RANTING, WHERE IS THE BEEF? Or put better, where is that you showed above that you are better than the "hate-filled" Igbos on this board.
Be informed that Nwa Aro's business is not and will never be to make a Yoruba, Hausa, Edo or any other Nigerian forget or lose sense of where he or she came from. Because there's no doubt that the way post independent Nigeria has been going about talking of "united Nigeria" without first uniting the component parts has been at the core of Nigeria's social, economic and political failure since independence. Reason why the SNC issue is so popular among ordinary Nigerians.
For the record, and I make no apologies to you or anyone, I AM IGBO FIRST, A BLACKMAN SECOND AND A FORCED NIGERIAN LAST. BUt you on the other hand sound like a broken record because the first post you made on this board was to "invite" the "hate-filled" Nwa Aro to "build" a "united Nigeria" with you. But suddenly, when Obasanjo and his party rigged the election and Ojukwu just like others conplained about it, it was same you the "nationalist" that turned around to suggest that Ojukwu would have been better dead. What was his crime? Because he as a Nigerian citizen (a forced one as well) "whinned" like the Buhari that escaped your compass. And you want to be taken serious as a "nationalist" I DONT ENVY YOUR TYPE OF "NATIONALISM"!
Be informed that if Nwa Aro want to vie for the president of Nigeria tomorrow, I have the right, the connection and the resources to do so. But one thing you can be sure is that I will NEVER reduce myself to pick the crumbs the Obasanjo's throw at the Chikwes in the name of being a 'minister.' I prefer to die a church-rat than to be "rich" while my community and people are in rags as the Igbos are presently. Also get it in your head that unlike others, I did not come to BiafraNigeriaworld to learn or show that I am A BORN FREEDOM FIGHTER (starting from my Igbo base). That is what I have been all my life and will be till death calls. For example, here in Germany I have led demonstrations to demand the rights of asylum seekers whom most are not even Africans. Now go figure.
Its time you tell us where the "education" and queens english you and your awol "Nigerian nationalists" and "experts" has led Nigeria to. Again, I am IGBO and not English. Besides, I use German and not english in my daily dealings over here.
Dont just waste your time because Nwa Aro is not someone who fall for the gragra of those who got "PhDs" from some backyard schools. Go ask the Alukos and they will tell you the stuff Nwa Aro is made of. For if anything, the mind-set of the Alukos has thus far shown that a single COMMON SENSE is worth more than a million PHDs gotten by most Nigerians (especially the Yorubas). I DONT ENVY THEM EITHER.
Finally, after the gragra, can you answer the simple question as regards the topic of this thread put to you and stop your RANTINGS? But if on the other hand you are now telling us that you are starting a "duel" because you dont have the FACTS to backup your claim, then be sure that you will be IGNORED. Nwa Aro got better things to do than to continue teaching "educated" people who aint got COMMON SENSE to differ the TRUTH from propaganda and make-believes.
Posts: 997 | From: Germany | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
quote:It does not matter to you that setting up a website in the name of BiafraNigeria.com in itself is a case of tribalism to be met with the charge of high treason(by your logic).
Addy:
That statement of yours is errant nonsense, by any logic, including your convoluted attempt to attribute your own reasoning to Nwa Aro. It is lazy reasoning. BNW does not belong to any tribe, and only a fascist would dare call what we do here treason (high or low). You have got to find a less pedestrian way to slip into the gutter.
___________________ The only solution is to divide BiafraNigeria. If not now, then when? If not us, then who? Posts: 173 | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Nwa Aro: Common sense demands that an average adult is able to clearly differentiate between an Obasanjo-led government and the Yoruba race, but when you showed that even grasping this commom knowledge was too much a task for you, it then behoves of me to tell you the simple home truth. A recurring index in any debate between the Yoruba and his Igbo counterpart is the tendency of the latter to resort to the moribund argument that the Yoruba is congenitally triballistically inclined, both in his thought process and the ability to relate to others. To me, nothing can be more self-defeating. It prevents stimulating discourse and give ammunition to the mushrooming of otiose armchair critics like you have proven to be, time and again. When you make sweeping categorizations of a people in such derogatory manner, you are spoiling for a fight. I am only a nationalist to the extent that you respect my race, as i do yours, even in the face of extreme emotion. I believe this is not too much to ask!I could care less about Nwa-Aro's connection and wherewithal to contest an office, it is not germane to our discussion which calls to question, your capacity to walk a trajectory where others before you fell into a tangent. When you made reference to the Yorubas dance of shame in a previous write-up, you displayed a profound lack of historical lore and an amazing knack for twisting facts to suit your mostly pedestrian write-ups. Is it not obvious that the first time i decided to take you on in a sound conversation, you are finally resorting to the escapist trick of 'Ignore him'? Regardless however, whenever you spin out untruths and innuendos about the Yoruba, be sure that I will pick holes in your endeavor, and put out a version of facts that more accurately reflects the peace-loving people of the southwest. I will not allow you to continue to run wild on the pages of a messageboard at the expense of the Yoruba.Maybe the reason that i sound like a broken record is due to your extreme difficullty to grasp something as common and true as the fact that the Yorubas cannot be railroaded to adopt a thought process that ultimately leads nowhere but..you know where.
Enobong: Tribalism:A strong feeling of identity with and loyalty to one's tribe or group . Thanks for the education. I guess i just need to do a better job of speaking the truth without offending your sensibilities.
posted
I dey salute una. We should all be happy that that funds are being sent to some colleges in our country, and then hope that the money is not misused. Haba guys let’s be real, Ife is great school so are Nsuka, Lagos and Ibadan.
There is nothing wrong with connection, lobbying , or call it whatever you want. If they people here that help them good. If you do not like still good, but then why not work hard to get grant/fund for universities of your choice. Sometimes we give more credit to uncle segun than he really reaLLLLLy deserve.
Ibibomn, comparing Ife and Ibadan to these universities that look like saint holy spirit backyard churches is way out.
___________________ though tribe and tongue may differ in brotherhood we stand Posts: 25 | From: westchester new york | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged
Welcome to the battlefield and be sure your weapons are intact. It's a war zone out here!
___________________ The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government Posts: 217 | From: Ogallala, Nebraska, USA | Registered: May 2003
| IP: Logged
Just be man enough to own up to the truth as you understand it. But, by all means, tell the "the truth."
___________________ The only solution is to divide BiafraNigeria. If not now, then when? If not us, then who? Posts: 173 | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
Congratulations. You've joined NwaBiafra's class of Senior Advocates. Use your seniority responsibly.
___________________ The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government Posts: 217 | From: Ogallala, Nebraska, USA | Registered: May 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Omota thanx, The name “BiafraNigeria” reminds me of the following sectors Ore, Okitikpukpa, Nkpor, Ogidi (ugwu nwasike) and Abagana. I guess the only one missing is Okoko Ndem
___________________ though tribe and tongue may differ in brotherhood we stand Posts: 25 | From: westchester new york | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Odili, It only takes a sensible person to appreciate same. You don't strike me as one sensible fellow and Tolerance is not one of your few virtues, y'know. I only pray you are not the same respected Odili of kilima.com, Stupid!
___________________ This war of attrition on the Igbo must end now! Posts: 441 | From: california, US | Registered: Jan 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Addy, many have come to BNW disguised as nationalist, liberals and what have you, soon it all unravels and for some it becomes undone rather quickly. We have heard you out and we think is time you dust up your 'agbekoya' warrior toga because from all indications, after you put us away for treason the gates of Ilorin may still remain unbreached.
Posts: 26 | From: usa | Registered: Oct 2002
| IP: Logged
posted
Haba guys, can we start attacking Addy’s position rather than his person. It now looks more like lynching than what it should be. What happens to “nna ife ikwulu new ka odi (jogbulu onweya) instead of otolo gbagbue gi or ewu can beer.
___________________ though tribe and tongue may differ in brotherhood we stand Posts: 25 | From: westchester new york | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Idowu Are trying to prove that you understand few Igbo slangs, or do you want to make a mockery of Igbo language and culture. let me warn you, if you come to join Addy and the rest of your Yoruba clan, to attack our people, I have to let you know that you will not be the first who tried. Owuha mbu anyi huru awusa na utaa.
quote:Ibibomn, comparing Ife and Ibadan to these universities that look like saint holy spirit backyard churches is way out. idowu ogbo
Sir, I was only saying the The University of Nigeria, is an International educational institute and attracts student from allover the world. People from world over that have interest in college education in Nigeria, will first look for the nations premier university and that college is the University of Nigeria. The Carnegie grants (which the education department at Abuja under OO's watch, probable recomended college for,) are regional colleges and not at par with The University of Nigeria. Ife attracts only students from the city and the rest of the Southwest and a few from out side and the same is the case for Jos and the Northeast/middle belt.
___________________ Nobody drinks medicine on behalf of a sick person. Posts: 110 | From: United States | Registered: Mar 2001
| IP: Logged
___________________ The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government Posts: 217 | From: Ogallala, Nebraska, USA | Registered: May 2003
| IP: Logged
posted
Biafra Not trying to prove anything, just wanted to drive a point home. If I have written that in Yoruba language you’ll probably think that uncle Segun was coming to demote you and takeover the messageboard. Moreover Igbo people do speak Yoruba and other Nigerian languages. Guess what, you are very welcome to learn Yoruba language and culture. I’ll even be glad to help you. Yoo this kind our people and your people sef. ( I never knew members are grouped into clan here)You sound more like Newt Gingrich,lmao. Nobody is siding nobody to attack nobody oight
___________________ though tribe and tongue may differ in brotherhood we stand Posts: 25 | From: westchester new york | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
![[Nshi Recommendation]](graemlins/moon.gif)
for u. Iti boribo