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Thank goodness the guy is not a professor in a Yoruba college. Just ask the nitwits at Howard why they refuse to import an internationally acclaimed professor from Nsukka to chair one of their important departments.

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Writes addy,
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if you are not pro-Igbo, you do not have an audience here, b/c then you are not one of "our people". And to think Yorubas are the tribalists... Just ask the respected Prof. Mobolaji Aluko.
Addy:

You have just touched on an important issue about our country. Aluko is respected only by Yoruba people. I don't know about any accomplishments of his in his profession; I know mostly his political comments, which have nothing to do with chemistry or chemical engineering. He is partly responsible to blame for the way he is treated by others. I reviewed his debates in this forum. He had statistical data but he allowed his tribal leanings to blind him to what the data really said about education in Nigeria. It was therefore too easy for his debate opponents to crush him. We need to start producing scholars who are beyond petty tribalism.

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Nigeriankind,
Just like you, i also reviewed his posts; I also reviewed the responses to those posts. I came away feeling that the guy did not deserve the assault on his parents and immediate family that he was subjected to. It also showed the crudity with which some people engage in conversations on this board - esp. when you are seen to espouse a position starkly devoid of praise worshipping the Igbo race. As per his achievements, you may want to visit Howard University's website, I believe he is listed?.

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Addy writes,
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I came away feeling that the guy did not deserve the assault on his parents and immediate family that he was subjected to. It also showed the crudity with which some people engage in conversations on this board - esp. when you are seen to espouse a position starkly devoid of praise worshipping the Igbo race.
Addy:

But, I thought the thing about his family was done by Aluko's fellow Yoruba people after Aluko insulted them personally. You may want to re-read the posts in the relevant threads.

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Addy:

There is a massive Yoruba tribal affirmative action program going on at the Black College Howard University, especially in the Engineering School. So, don’t be surprised if a Yoruba man becomes chairman of a department or the president of the university. Howard University is one of the lowest ranked schools in America in almost every discipline.

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Onwudiwe,
Yorubas must be ingenious indeed, even in the United States?. If you understand the level of deep-seated suspicion between an average American and an African (thanx to the Discovery channel), you will appreciate that for an African to ascend such a position here, he must be well-deserving of such. I don't know what happens in London, but Howard is no Nsukka where even an Eastern minority like Isaac Adaka Boro was harassed and haunted down for the better part of his stay in the school, just for doing the unthinkabe by contesting an elective position of the students' union in the heartland of the igbo.

[ June 22, 2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: addy ]

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Addy:

Not true! When Obasanjo was military dictator, he gave millions of dollars (circa ~ 40 million dollars) to Howard University. Shortly afterwards, Yoruba professors started to emerge at Howard. Money talks. But, that is not all. When you go to the more distinguished American Universities, there are fewer to no Yoruba professors. What is the problem?

Anyway, chaimanship of Howard's chemical engineering department is not based on excellence in engineering. It is purely political in the department.

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Addy,

You have come again with your 'cold hard facts'.

You first of all accuse forumites of going after Aluko's parents, when you are corrected, you hardly acknowledge it.

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I don't know what happens in London, but Howard is no Nsukka where even an Eastern minority like Isaac Adaka Boro was harassed and haunted down for the better part of his stay in the school, just for thinking the unthinkabe in the heartland of the igbos and contesting for elective position of the students' union.

Your selective reading again! Yes on his first attempt at student union leadership, he lost to a better candidate. The detractors of Nd'Igbo would want the world to believe that it was because he was not Igbo. The same Boro was to become the president of the Students union of UNN. How do you explain that?

It should also be noted, that Adaka Boro was killed by the troops of the 3rd Marine Commando of the Biafranigerian military, while fighting against Biafra. He was shot in the back presumably to remove a future impediment.

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Losing to a better candidate, not bad. But must it be at great personal risk to limbs and possibly life? No. Anyway, as the war drew closer, it became expedient to have a minority face in the union, in a bid to sway the minority's opinion to the cause. Convenient, huh?. As per being a selective reader, pardon my insolence, but i am not terribly good at multi-tasking. I will reply that in due course.

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No. Anyway, as the war drew closer, it became expedient to have a minority face in the union, in a bid to sway the minority's opinion to the cause.
As the war drew closer? duh? Adaka Boro was President Of UNN student Union in 1963-64 and declared the Niger Delta Republic in 1966 , The civil war started in 1967.
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NigerianKind,
That thing about Aluko's family was started by no less aperson than Osetutu with Way point1 providing the ammunition. Pls refer:


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Waypoint1Biafra just a point of correction I retain the exclusive right to the Prof's Pictures. Akpan modified it from the link I divuldged.
And by the way, I have pics of all his family but depending on how he continues to misbehave, I will also misbehave with the pics.
I also have Ikpatt's but I will hang onto it for now.

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Wacko:
Read my words very carefully. I deliberately used the word cause. History bears me witness that a cause, as opposed to a war, literally starts in the mind of the people, and in the course of time, translates to expression. So, the cause was the prelude to the physical war in 1967. Gat it?

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Read my words very carefully. I deliberately used the word cause. History bears me witness that a cause, as opposed to a war, literally starts in the mind of the people, and in the course of time, translates to expression. So, the cause was the prelude to the physical war in 1967. Gat it?


Not so fast Addy!
You are still very wrong!
The events that culminated in the civil war started in mid 1966 long after Boro became student union president, and 6 months after he declared the 'independence of Niger Delta Republic.

So my dear Addy, their are 'no lines to read between' in this case.

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The events that culminated in the civil war started in mid 1966 long after Boro became student union president, and 6 months after he declared the 'independence of Niger Delta Republic. ..Wacko

You can't be more wrong. The events that culminated in the civil war actually began on February 24, 1964 when the Census board announced the interim census results, this was immediately rejected by Dr. Okpara on February 28, 1964. On December 30th of the same year the UPGA (a party formed by the NCNC and other parties) partially boycotted the Federal Elections. It is also instructive to note here that the Tiv insurrection had taken place in February of the same year. Now draw your own conclusions from the above.

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You are begining to behave like Aluko, trying to rewrite history so as to win a debate. Desputed Census figures did not lead to the civil war. It was the killing of Nd'Igbo with implicit support of the Federal government that lead to the war. You can argue that the remote cause of the problems Biafranigeria experienced, was the operation wetie in Yoruba land. This was however after Boro had become President of UNN SU.

So my dear addy,that Isaac Boro became President of UNN SU had nothing to do with the war.

On another note, I always find it interesting when Yoruba people attribute the cause of the civil war to factors independent of Ikemba Nnewi, only to turn around to blame him for leading 'us into a senseless civil war'. Your people were very instrumental in labeling the Nzeogwu coup an Igbo Coup irrespective of the fact that the aim of the plotters was to install your kinsman Awo as the head of state.

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UPGA (a party formed by the NCNC and other parties )

Like Action Group? See how you attempt to exhonorate yoruba politicians. Could this actually be a reflection of the level of knowledge of Biafranigerian history?

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Addy:

You wrote,
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I came away feeling that the guy did not deserve the assault on his parents and immediate family that he was subjected to.
In your later rebuttal, you wrote,
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That thing about Aluko's family was started by no less aperson than Osetutu with Way point1 providing the ammunition. Pls refer: ....

You really should have furnished the link that you copied that post from so that everyone could judge what you copied in the context of the debate that was going on at the time. It seems to me that one making a case about “assault on his [Aluko’s] parents” would find it nearly impossible to overlook this exchange between Mobolaji Aluko and Adekunle. From threads like “Let Us Discuss: Why the Igbos” and others such as this even before the post by Osetutu, there was clear indication that Aluko was well accommodated here in spite of his vituperations. When Aluko resorted to abusive language, it was only a matter of time before he fell victim to his own method.

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You should read this article to understand the so called oppression of minorities by Nd'Igbo.

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Kevin Nwanna:
Thanks for your response to Ubanese's article. You have covered most of the
field. But I will add just a few caps to your eloquent response:
One, Ubanese argues that the Igbo should apologize to the minorities of the
East for acts allegedly committed by the Igbo against their minority
neighbors. He did not specify on what these crimes are. Nor does anybody,
except those who specifically talk in general terms about discrimination
against the eastern minorities. The facts of Igbo acts discrimination
against their neighbours do not also bear out. For one, a look at the public
service in Eastern Nigeria in the period, shows that the minorities of
Eastern Nigeria had equal, and sometimes were disproportionately represented
at all segments of government bureaucracy. There were no known conditions,
at least to my knowledge, when individual Igbo were promoted above their
minority neighbors in normal, routine civil service processes, or given
unfair advantage in access to government credits, or in the distribution of
government development programs. The first class Eastern Nigerian cities ?
Enugu, Calabar, Port-Harcourt, Umuahia, Aba, Onitsha, Owerri, were long
established by colonial authorities, and were equally open to any Easterner
in the pursuit of their legal businesses. In many cases, the civil
administrators of these cities were from the Eastern minority groups,
appointed through normal civil service procedures, in non-discriminatory
processes.
The first Southern Nigerian to be sent to Sandhurst was an Ijo, George
Kurubo, in 1954 when Nnamdi Azikiwe began to encourage the rapid
commissioning of Eastern Nigerians into the officers Corp for a new
post-colonial Army. He is just one example of minority Easterners who
benefited from the state as "Easterners". Ken Saro-wiwa often claimed to
have gone to school , from the secondary to the university level "on
government scholarship". What he did not often say, was that it was on the
Eastern Regional government scholarship. And there are numerous of them -
from the Oyibos, the Daukorus, the Lolomaris, the Greens, the Beredugos and
so on, who became the central figures of Nigeria's oil sector, who were
beneficiaries of the Eastern Nigerian government scholarship. There are
numerous examples. Specifically about Biafran atrocities in the minority
areas, we should remind Ubanese of the question that the reporter from the
Observer Newspaper in London threw at the British foreign minister in 1969,
who was justifying the British support for the war against Biafra, with the
claim that Eastern minority groups were also being liberated from Igbo
hegemony, which was one of the central themes of that war: "why then are
these minority elements, caught in the conflict, running into Biafra held
areas for refuge rather than run to Nigerian held territories?." ( see
interview with Justice P.K. Nwokedi, Vanguard, 1998) I shouldn't say more.
But let us bear in mind, that the effective time, in which it could be said
that Eastern minorities came under any indigenous rule with the Igbo was
from 1954, when home rule was granted by the British. Before then, the
Eastern region was run by the British colonial administration, and so the
Igbo could not have "oppressed" the minorities prior to 1954. Even then, the
first leader of government business in 1954 was a minority, Eyo Ita. The
East was the only region where a minority could have been elected and
supported in parliament as premier by the majority group. The much touted
appearance of Nnamdi Azikiwe to displace Eyo Ita, has also been historically
disfigured. First is that people often do not take account of the fact that
as party leader under the parliamentary system, Nnamdi Azikiwe was also the
leader of his party in parliament. That is why a by-election was effected.
It was inconceivable in 1954, when the East became self-governing, that the
only leader of the party to act as leader of opposition of the three parties
- the NCNC, the AG and the NPC ? all of them angling for the leadership of
the country in that transitory period would be Azikiwe of the NCNC. Those
who do not understand the workings of the Westminster system which Nigeria
was operating at the time, and the full implication for the NCNC of its
party leader operating out of power in that period, have infused all kinds
of ahistoricities on the move to make Azikiwe take full control of his party
leadership in government; after acting as leader of opposition in the west
from 1951.
Nevertheless, it is also remarkable that Azikiwe's greatest opposition in
the Eastern house, those who backed Eyo Ita to the hilt, refused calls to
resign, and resigned from the NCNC after he was removed were top Igbo
leaders and politicians in that period: Nwapa, Eni Njoku, Jaja Wachukwu etc.
That Azikiwe won his greatest support in the elections that later took place
after the dissolution of parliament in the Eastern minority areas, and had
far more protest votes against him in the Igbo areas, in that period, is
also constantly overlooked by commentators with a stake in falsehood.
Talking about apologies: in 1970, Ukapbi Asika, in spite of being warned
against it by certain of his advisers, issued a strong public apology
(widely reported in the papers) on behalf of the Igbo "for what the Igbo had
done to the minorities in the past?. It was of course, a justificatory
apology ? part of the rhetoric of the war aim for which he fought against
the Igbo. But it has since taken a life of its own, with the consequence
that since then, every eastern minority has cottoned on to Asika's theme of
Igbo complicity in the oppression of their minority neighbours. But a look
at history in fact vindicates the Igbo, as Kevin Ani has clearly
demonstrated. Aside from the fact, as I already said, that the Igbo were
effectively on the same boat with their minority neighbours from 1954 to
1967, a period of 13 years, the minorities of the East have run their own
governments, independent of the Igbo, from 1967 to date, a period of 35
years. They should effectively count the thirteen years of their association
with the Igbo as wasted, and should have marched on to greater glory in the
last 35 years, when the Igbo had been effectively demobilized and
disempowered, and thus incapable of impacting on the fortune of the
minorities in any significant way. This blame the Igbo excuse has gone on
for too long. I do not personally feel the kind of guilt Ubanese wants to
impose on the Igbo conscience ? one that demonizes the Igbo unjustifiably,
and consistently promoted as part of the Nigerian narrative of the
miscellany of Igbo sins.
I will not even bother talking about Igbo leadership, and the selective
policies that were used deliberately to contain the Igbo. For one, Agwu
Okpanku, Cambridge-educated columnist at the Renaissance newspapers in Enugu
was put in detention precisely for speaking out in his column with the
article "Killing Biafra." He was the first journalist to be detained by
Jacob Gowon in 1970. Sam Mbakwe, long before it became fashionable for human
rights lawyers to go to jail, spent time in jail over his vocal fight for
Igbo property rights in Biafra. Igbo business leaders led by Z.C Obi went to
Asika to get him to use his position to redress most of the injustice
emergent against the Igbo. Asika advised them to "approach the matter
legally". They went to the chambers of Obafemi Awolowo, who asked them to
first pay a non-negotiable fee of One million pounds into his account before
he could brook the matter. There was no Igbo with that kind of resources
even by 1973. But let me quickly point that in the period from 1970 to 1983,
the generation of Igbo leaders who stood for the Igbo were still fairly in
place and active. The devastation of the Igbo became clear when the Igbo
"sabo" group - the Nzeribes, the Iwuanyanwus etc came of age, and when the
generation that fought the Igbo in the battlefields, many of theme the young
lieutenants whom Ironsi had promoted by edict in 1966, and who were the key
figures of the 1966 pogrom, swooped into place from the Buhari government of
1983. It has been a progressive decimation of the Igbo ever since. The new
phase is the one, when the Igbo, completely discombobulated by the turn of
events will turn in and begin to blame themselves. It is the psychology of
the victim, who believes that God or nature or forces beyond him is
punishing him for his own inadequacies. Partly true, but mostly untrue. It
is the psychology of the dispossessed.
Obi Kevin Nwanna:
Thanks for your response to Ubanese's article. You have covered most of the
field. But I will add just a few caps to your eloquent response:
One, Ubanese argues that the Igbo should apologize to the minorities of the
East for acts allegedly committed by the Igbo against their minority
neighbors. He did not specify on what these crimes are. Nor does anybody,
except those who specifically talk in general terms about discrimination
against the eastern minorities. The facts of Igbo acts discrimination
against their neighbours do not also bear out. For one, a look at the public
service in Eastern Nigeria in the period, shows that the minorities of
Eastern Nigeria had equal, and sometimes were disproportionately represented
at all segments of government bureaucracy. There were no known conditions,
at least to my knowledge, when individual Igbo were promoted above their
minority neighbors in normal, routine civil service processes, or given
unfair advantage in access to government credits, or in the distribution of
government development programs. The first class Eastern Nigerian cities ?
Enugu, Calabar, Port-Harcourt, Umuahia, Aba, Onitsha, Owerri, were long
established by colonial authorities, and were equally open to any Easterner
in the pursuit of their legal businesses. In many cases, the civil
administrators of these cities were from the Eastern minority groups,
appointed through normal civil service procedures, in non-discriminatory
processes.
The first Southern Nigerian to be sent to Sandhurst was an Ijo, George
Kurubo, in 1954 when Nnamdi Azikiwe began to encourage the rapid
commissioning of Eastern Nigerians into the officers Corp for a new
post-colonial Army. He is just one example of minority Easterners who
benefited from the state as "Easterners". Ken Saro-wiwa often claimed to
have gone to school , from the secondary to the university level "on
government scholarship". What he did not often say, was that it was on the
Eastern Regional government scholarship. And there are numerous of them -
from the Oyibos, the Daukorus, the Lolomaris, the Greens, the Beredugos and
so on, who became the central figures of Nigeria's oil sector, who were
beneficiaries of the Eastern Nigerian government scholarship. There are
numerous examples. Specifically about Biafran atrocities in the minority
areas, we should remind Ubanese of the question that the reporter from the
Observer Newspaper in London threw at the British foreign minister in 1969,
who was justifying the British support for the war against Biafra, with the
claim that Eastern minority groups were also being liberated from Igbo
hegemony, which was one of the central themes of that war: "why then are
these minority elements, caught in the conflict, running into Biafra held
areas for refuge rather than run to Nigerian held territories?." ( see
interview with Justice P.K. Nwokedi, Vanguard, 1998) I shouldn't say more.
But let us bear in mind, that the effective time, in which it could be said
that Eastern minorities came under any indigenous rule with the Igbo was
from 1954, when home rule was granted by the British. Before then, the
Eastern region was run by the British colonial administration, and so the
Igbo could not have "oppressed" the minorities prior to 1954. Even then, the
first leader of government business in 1954 was a minority, Eyo Ita. The
East was the only region where a minority could have been elected and
supported in parliament as premier by the majority group. The much touted
appearance of Nnamdi Azikiwe to displace Eyo Ita, has also been historically
disfigured. First is that people often do not take account of the fact that
as party leader under the parliamentary system, Nnamdi Azikiwe was also the
leader of his party in parliament. That is why a by-election was effected.
It was inconceivable in 1954, when the East became self-governing, that the
only leader of the party to act as leader of opposition of the three parties
- the NCNC, the AG and the NPC ? all of them angling for the leadership of
the country in that transitory period would be Azikiwe of the NCNC. Those
who do not understand the workings of the Westminster system which Nigeria
was operating at the time, and the full implication for the NCNC of its
party leader operating out of power in that period, have infused all kinds
of ahistoricities on the move to make Azikiwe take full control of his party
leadership in government; after acting as leader of opposition in the west
from 1951.
Nevertheless, it is also remarkable that Azikiwe's greatest opposition in
the Eastern house, those who backed Eyo Ita to the hilt, refused calls to
resign, and resigned from the NCNC after he was removed were top Igbo
leaders and politicians in that period: Nwapa, Eni Njoku, Jaja Wachukwu etc.
That Azikiwe won his greatest support in the elections that later took place
after the dissolution of parliament in the Eastern minority areas, and had
far more protest votes against him in the Igbo areas, in that period, is
also constantly overlooked by commentators with a stake in falsehood.
Talking about apologies: in 1970, Ukapbi Asika, in spite of being warned
against it by certain of his advisers, issued a strong public apology
(widely reported in the papers) on behalf of the Igbo "for what the Igbo had
done to the minorities in the past?. It was of course, a justificatory
apology ? part of the rhetoric of the war aim for which he fought against
the Igbo. But it has since taken a life of its own, with the consequence
that since then, every eastern minority has cottoned on to Asika's theme of
Igbo complicity in the oppression of their minority neighbours. But a look
at history in fact vindicates the Igbo, as Kevin Ani has clearly
demonstrated. Aside from the fact, as I already said, that the Igbo were
effectively on the same boat with their minority neighbours from 1954 to
1967, a period of 13 years, the minorities of the East have run their own
governments, independent of the Igbo, from 1967 to date, a period of 35
years. They should effectively count the thirteen years of their association
with the Igbo as wasted, and should have marched on to greater glory in the
last 35 years, when the Igbo had been effectively demobilized and
disempowered, and thus incapable of impacting on the fortune of the
minorities in any significant way. This blame the Igbo excuse has gone on
for too long. I do not personally feel the kind of guilt Ubanese wants to
impose on the Igbo conscience ? one that demonizes the Igbo unjustifiably,
and consistently promoted as part of the Nigerian narrative of the
miscellany of Igbo sins.
I will not even bother talking about Igbo leadership, and the selective
policies that were used deliberately to contain the Igbo. For one, Agwu
Okpanku, Cambridge-educated columnist at the Renaissance newspapers in Enugu
was put in detention precisely for speaking out in his column with the
article "Killing Biafra." He was the first journalist to be detained by
Jacob Gowon in 1970. Sam Mbakwe, long before it became fashionable for human
rights lawyers to go to jail, spent time in jail over his vocal fight for
Igbo property rights in Biafra. Igbo business leaders led by Z.C Obi went to
Asika to get him to use his position to redress most of the injustice
emergent against the Igbo. Asika advised them to "approach the matter
legally". They went to the chambers of Obafemi Awolowo, who asked them to
first pay a non-negotiable fee of One million pounds into his account before
he could brook the matter. There was no Igbo with that kind of resources
even by 1973. But let me quickly point that in the period from 1970 to 1983,
the generation of Igbo leaders who stood for the Igbo were still fairly in
place and active. The devastation of the Igbo became clear when the Igbo
"sabo" group - the Nzeribes, the Iwuanyanwus etc came of age, and when the
generation that fought the Igbo in the battlefields, many of theme the young
lieutenants whom Ironsi had promoted by edict in 1966, and who were the key
figures of the 1966 pogrom, swooped into place from the Buhari government of
1983. It has been a progressive decimation of the Igbo ever since. The new
phase is the one, when the Igbo, completely discombobulated by the turn of
events will turn in and begin to blame themselves. It is the psychology of
the victim, who believes that God or nature or forces beyond him is
punishing him for his own inadequacies. Partly true, but mostly untrue. It
is the psychology of the dispossessed.
Obi


I will continue when I come back.

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It is just you love the Yoruba so much that I suggest you learn the language to complement your love.
Yea if uncle Segun is ugly (obusonjo) what do you say about the Toad Onunaka Mbakwe. I do not why it took you guys so long to move his nose from his behind to his face where it belongs in the first place.

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Since it is obviously not a transgression to adopt any name for the purpose of a messageboard, it is inconclusive that Adekunle is Yoruba. What stops me from adopting Okechukwu as my handle just like Ogbuefi Adekunle did?.

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[ June 22, 2003, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: addy ]

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After giving our english lecturer more than two days to give us the FACTS as to what made/makes Unife (just like other Igbos who knows their history, I couldn't believe that an institution of learning was named after that MASS-MURDERER Awolowo) more "great" than UNN.

The more I read this "nationalist" addy, the more I am begining to think that he is in the school of the Alukos who claim to be PhD holders but make our forefathers who never attended western-modelled schools look like genius. Like all PROPAGANDISTS (good at telling lies and half-truths), since their primary intention is to brainwash not to teach or learn, whenever he is caught in his tracks, all he does is to either divert the discussion or claim some academic superiority. So I am not surprised to see him now stand history on the head by claiming that Isaac Boro was made a student union leader at UNN to please the minorities.

-The teachers are learning while those who ought to learn "teach."

-They have eyes but they are BLIND.

-They are "educated" but IGNORANT.

-They are "conscience of the nation" only as long as the victim is YORUBA.

-They are "defenders of democracy" but must defend dictatorship and abuse of democracy just because their "man" is the BENEFICIARY.

-They are the socalled nationalists and preachers of "unity" but history shows that they are the only Nigerian tribe that have NEVER supported nor voted for a Nigerian from another tribe in Nigerian national elections.

-They are the "Intelligentsias" with more paper qualification (some forged) but evidence shows that they have no PRACTICAL SKILLS and never made any scientific discovery or breakthrough.

You wonder why Nigeria is in the mess it is today. Why wont it when everyone want to be addressed as
Professor/Dr/Engineer/Architect/Alhadji/Hadja and what have you instead of simply being a Mr/miss/Mrs.

Wole Soyinka must have had his fellow Yoruba self-styled "intelligentsia" in mind when he dismissed the African elite as a "LOST GENERATION."

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addy:

You are nothing but a tribal demagogue - one without class. Obviously, you lack the sophistication of the lout, Aluko who was handily discredited by his superiors on this board. He knew he was a tribalist and he admitted it. You lack the class to admit that you are a stinking tribal warlord. While Adekunle was spouting pro-Yoruba rhetoric on this board, warlords like you applauded. When one of you annoyed him and he turned on you say he is ogbuefi.

You think Osetutu is Igbo because of his name. But, you don't think Adekunle is Yoruba, even though his name is Yoruba. What a wretched moron you are.

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Addy writes,
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it is inconclusive that Adekunle is Yoruba. What stops me from adopting Okechukwu as my handle just like Ogbuefi Adekunle did?.
Addy:

If you know that it is inconclusive that people are what their handles say, why do you tend to believe that Adekunle is not Yoruba? Why would any intelligent person want a debate at that level of crassness? What is "addy?" Would you be happy to have a debate about who addy is, who addy's parents are, where addy works, what addy's posts really say about whether he is Yoruba or not, What addy and Aluko do together and the real reason that addy is here fronting for Aluko?

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