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NwaBiafra:

Na real wah for you oh! So u no fit talk any better thing than say my jabrata broken don dey twist your big belle with all de gira wey you don dey nak for Yankee with dat okporoko.

Abeg make u talk better thing wey man won hear no be the kalabule wey u won carry come dey smell your own yeye nyash.

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Tijani,

I can't understand what in the heck you are saying neither can anyone else in here.

Does that not tell you some when you are the only one that can understand what you are saying.

The bottom line is that you are not communicating

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NwaBiafra:

Which one u no understand? I think say okoro man like u go understand my "police barracks/prison barracks" broken English. Well sha, make I break am down for you.

gira=fufu/pounded yam/garri

smesme=nonsense/rubbish/irrelevant

kalabule=ojoro/jipiti/magomago/wuruwuru/fooling around

Make u dey now!

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It looks like Nigeria soon hand Taylor over for trial. Is this the right thing for Nigeria to do?

[ November 25, 2003, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: NigerianKind ]

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Good question that has and easy answer.

Obasanjo will do anything for 2 million dollars, does that surprise anyone? No.

[ November 26, 2003, 12:22 AM: Message edited by: NwaBiafra ]

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You beat me to it, taylor made a big mistake by trusting Obasanjo. Obasanjo will sell his mother for a fast buck. Did anybody expected obasanjo to stand firm behind Taylor, Obasanjo is two bold face liar.

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biafra,

I will support Obasanjo handing that Scalawag over to the world court.

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Ednut,

So would I if obasanjo did not hand him over for the sole reason of collecting the 2 million dollars ransom offer.

First he lied to the man Taylor then he conspired with USA to offer a bribe which he will trun around to accept.

Is there any doubt people that obasanjo is the biggest criminal in Biafranigeria?

[ November 26, 2003, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: NwaBiafra ]

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In the matter of Charles Taylor, for now, at least, there seems to be a convergence of the interests of the Nigerian Taliban and George Bush Jr. Jibril Aminu is calling on Obasanjo to surrender Taylor, and we already know that Taylor's exit from Liberia was a victory for Liberian muslims. If I were Taylor, I would begin making arrangements to protect myself, especially from the Nigerians.
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You are absolutely right, if I was Taylor will be taking care of my own security right now, because that $2 is too much for Obasanjo to turn his back on. The man Obasanjo is a criminal so Taylor should watch his back. I guess the Money Taylor gave to Obasanjo is dried from Obasanjo's mouth, so now he has turned to G.W to get more and sell out Taylor in the process.

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Biafra,

Well, said my brother.

If I were Taylor, I will placing calls to different countries to see if there are any takers before obasanjo delivers Taylor to G.W and USA.

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The practice in Europe and America of sending armed thugs into Africa to capture protected persons must be condemned; it is nothing short of state-sponsored terrorism.
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March 24, 2004, 15:48

A South African daily newspaper said today that suspected mercenaries held in Zimbabwe and Equatorial Guinea planned to snatch Charles Taylor, the exiled former Liberian president, for a $2million US reward. Zimbabwe has charged 70 men in its custody with conspiracy to overthrow the president of Equatorial Guinea. All have been held in Harare since their plane was impounded there on March 7.

However, ThisDay newspaper said the plan, which it said was put together by Northbridge Services Group, a British military company, was to capture Taylor from his exile in Nigeria. It said Taylor would have been handed to a UN war crimes tribunal in Sierra Leone where he has been indicted. The US Congress last year approved a $2 million reward for his capture.

Bob Kovacic, Northbridge's president, denied any links between his group and the suspected mercenaries but said his company had once offered to capture Taylor. He said his US representative Pasquale Dipofi "did know a couple of the guys on the plane and one or two in the target country, but we had nothing to do with the mission". "I don't have any contracts running now. I am still looking for our first one," he added, speaking from Kuwait where he said he was seeking a security contract in Iraq.

"Last June the International Court did ask us to get Taylor, but when we said it would cost $4 million they backed off. I am a businessman. I don't do charity work," he added.

Zimbabwean authorities have said the 70 men, 10 of them whites and mainly from South Africa, Namibia and Angola, had stopped in Harare to procure arms for their mission. Equatorial Guinea announced it had arrested a smaller group of 15, whose leader had confessed to being the head of an advance party of a hit team to topple the Malabo government.

ThisDay, quoting "sources close to the South Africans held as mercenaries", said Equatorial Guinea was merely to be the springboard for a sea borne expedition to Calabar, the port city in southeastern Nigeria where Taylor found asylum. Taylor's guarded asylum home overlooks the Cross River estuary, just under 300kms from Malabo. The men detained in Zimbabwe appeared in court yesterday.

Mary Zimba-Dube, a chief prosecutor, said Simon Mann, a Briton, was the ringleader and acted on instructions from Severo Moto, the exiled Equatorial Guinea opposition leader, who is based in Spain. Mann's lawyers rejected the charges. - Reuters

When Buhari and Idiagbon attempted to snatch Umaru Dikko from London some years ago, the British government had a cow about that.
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Isn't this ironic that Taylor may now owe his life and safety to Robert Mugabe, the man the west dispise.

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The mistake those "mercenaries" made was that they failed to fly straight into Lagos or Abujah. We all know that Obasanjo would have rolled out the red carpet to receive them, paving the way for Obasanjo to turn around and tell his country(wo)men that Taylor was abducted by "armed robbers."
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Much as I appreciated Mr. Weah’s soccer prowess, that’s not enough for him to now whine about a lady who is eminently qualified to even be the President of any civilized country of the world. Mr. Weah’s attention should be drawn to: “Harvard-trained economist and former finance minister…” Why is he protesting, that the lady is not qualified to lead or whaaaaaaat?? Please someone tell this ex-soccer ace to cool it, already.

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Harvard-trained economist and former finance minister, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf has taken an early lead in Liberia's presidential election, polling 56.4 per cent of the total votes so far counted while her rival, former footbal star, George Weah scored 43.6 per cent.

Addressing a press conference last night, the National Election Commission (NEC) Chairwoman, Francis Joh-nson-Morris announced that out of a total of 532,815 votes, Johnson-Sirleaf got 293,363 votes. Weah also got 227,224 votes.

The votes, she said, are from 1,813 polling stations out of a total of 3,070 polling stations across the country. But Weah, the former AC Milan star, has criticised the electoral body alleging the run-off was fraudulent. His party, the Congress for Democratic Change (CDC) called for Johnson-Morris’ resignation, accusing her of bias. Reacting to Weah's allegation during a question and answer session, Johnson-Morris said "They don’t have the right to tell me to resign.

According to her, CDC has not made its complaints known to her about the election.
What the law says, according to Johnson-Morris, is that any complaints about the conduct of the election must be made within 72 hours to the electoral commission.

The final result is expected to be officially announced on November 22, two weeks after the election according to that country's electoral law.But as things stand, the entire results may be ready in a matter of days. The election and the counting process appear less cumbersome than the previous one held last month. The head of the UN mission in Liberia, Allan Doss has declared the vote "free and transparent".

But according to Weah "The world is saying this election was free and fair, which was not true." He said that the tone of the election, which international observers had said was broadly free and fair, was deteriorating. Speaking with THISDAY Tuesday, Johnson-Sirleaf had said that Wea's supporters had made up their minds not to accept the outcome of the election if it did not favour their candidate.

An official of Weah's party, Charles Coleman said yesterday "This entire process was carried out unfairly. The NEC should stop the results," Johnson-Morris however praised the polls and urged the candidates to accept the results.
Meanwhile, Liberians were yesterday glued to their radios, listening to initial preliminary results from individual polling stations being announced on the radio.

With much of the country's infrastructure destroyed during the war, final results could take several days to come in from remote areas.



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Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf's election as first African female head of government of the nation of Liberia should be satisfying to every believer in merit as against the maintenance of status quo by some chauvinist African male twigs. The Liberia election went as I had hoped, expectantly, other clueless African nations should follow by allowing women the equal chance of taking over the leadership of their nations. They are more peaceful and focused than their male counterparts who are wallowed in corruption. Should this happen, the first and major beneficiary of the new wave of electing qualified female leaders undoubtedly will be the banana republic that refuses to go away, nigeria of course! Therefore, it is my sincere hope that Mr. Weah whose claim to this position is his athletic prowess, how sad, would extend a congratulatory hand to this lady.

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The nigerian Guardian Editorial of Nov 15, 2005 made the call the way I too saw it. Therefore, Mr. Weah should be proud that his country was able to rise from the quackery of the recent past to elect a lady with impeccable background. The soccer legend’s argument would’ve been better had Ms. Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf been known to be corrupt, he would have convincingly swayed the electorates to his side and be the President elect today. Nothing of such was heard and from the looks of things it seems that Mr. Weah’s only claim to that office is too simplistic, almost annoying, his male gender. Liberians have spoken loud and clear that never again would gender alone be the determining factor for such a post. Well, the people at Guardian have spoken and their position should be agreeable to object minds.

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LIBERIA, Africa's oldest post-colonial state, with the conclusion of its presidential run-off election on November 8, 2005, has hopefully crossed another hurdle on the road to its return to democracy and peace. The leading contenders in the country's presidential election and the two candidates in the November 8 run-off election were former international football star, 39-year old George Oppong Weah of the Congress for Democratic Change (UDC) and 66-year old economist and former Minister, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf of the Liberian Unity Party (UP).

With a larger number of the votes in the run-off election already in and counted, Johnson-Sirleaf has claimed victory while Weah, alleging that the run-off was marred by iregularities, has called for a re-run. While Weah may be entitled to his current views on the outcome of the run-off election, it is hoped that he (Weah) and Liberians will settle any disputes from the run-off peacefully as indeed they have been urged to, by the United Nations Security Council and moreso as African leaders meeting in Abuja on November 13, have praised the outcome of the election.

In the October 11 presidential and parliamentary elections, an appreciable number of Liberians representing about 74 per cent of the country's 1.3 million registered voters turned out to cast their votes to facilitate a replacement of the transitional government headed by businessman Gyude Bryant. The Bryant-led transitional government arose from an August 2003 all-party talks following the stepdown from the presidency and forced exile in Nigeria of former warlord, Charles Taylor.

Liberia's electoral laws provide that the declared winner in the presidential election must have received at least 50 per cent and one vote of the total votes cast in the election but none of the 22 presidential contenders in the October 22 elections could satisfy that requirement. The two candidates with the highest votes, Weah and Johnson-Sirleaf, each received approximately 30 per cent and 20 per cent of the votes cast and thus the run-off election, which was won by Johnson-Sirleaf.

In spite of Weah's protests on the outcome of the run-off, Liberians generally, their National Elections Commission (NEC) and international stakeholders such as Nigeria, ECOWAS and UNIMIL should all be commended for ensuring in different ways the peaceful and relatively free and fair conduct of the October 11 elections and the November 8 run-off elections. Local and international election observers and monitors all acknowledged and commended the conduct of the Liberian elections as peaceful, free and fair and such elections should be good consolation for Nigeria to justify its huge commitments towards peace in Liberia and the West African sub region generally.

Founded by settler, freed American slaves with the assistance of the American Colonisation Society and becoming independent in 1847, Liberia has been rendered practically a failed state and ungovernable by continuous instability and crisis since the 1980 ouster of President William Tolbert by Master Sergeant Samuel Doe. The descendants of the settler, freed Americans slaves known as "Americo-Liberians", though they constitute a minority of about five per cent of the Liberian population, until Tolbert's ouster, dominated the politics and administration of Liberia, breeding much resentment in the indigenous population.

From the ascendancy of Master Sergeant Doe in 1980 to the domination and later election of Taylor as President in 1999 till the present, the crises and wars which wracked Liberia leading to thousands of dead and displaced persons, also stoked other circles of crisis and war in neighbouring countries such as Sierra Leone, Guinea and Cote d'Ivoire, thus engendering instability in the West African sub region. The only periods of relative respite in Liberia from 1980 till date have been provided by interventions of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) through its ECOMOG peace keeping forces and of which Nigeria has been the most significant financial and human contributor to, and also by the United Nations through its Mission in Liberia (UNIMIL).

Johnson-Sirleaf, who has been an Assistant Secretary General at the United Nations, World Bank economist and Liberia's former Finance Minister brings forth experience and links with the international community that Liberia will find relevant as it rebuilds itself. A Johnson-Sirleaf Presidency will mark another first for Liberia, that of Africa's first woman President, a reality that will make a powerful statement in favour of gender equality and ability in an African continent generally regarded as male dominated. If Johnson-Sirleaf is also able to run an all-incisive national unity government as she has promised, and thereby addresses the present disquiet over the run-off result, she will be applauded even more over the gender shift in her victory.

The challenges and problems which the new Liberian President, Johnson-Sirleaf will face are enormous, sobering, daunting and will call for the best possible tools and hands in statecraft, statesmanship, and governance generally. After almost 14 years of civil war, the Liberian economy is in shambles with massive infrastructural decay, endemic corruption, high unemployment and illiteracy. The massive state of infrastructural decay in Liberia is symbolised by the long absence of electricity and potable water supply in most of the country including the capital, Monrovia. The new Liberian President should possess and implement a policy that will jumpstart the economy, facilitate reconstruction and redirect the revenue from the country's massive agricultural and mineral wealth from the hands of the private syndicates presently controlling these into the coffers of the government for the common good.

The international community and notable neighbours such as Nigeria, as Liberians too, bi-partisanly and all inclusively should have roles in the economic and reconstruction policies of the new Liberian administration if same is to succeed, considering the present poor state of the Liberian economy and how international and sub-regional support has been pivotal in guiding the country back to democracy and development. The new President must also deal swiftly with the reintegration of about 43,000 former combatants including abused child soldiers as any delay in the resettlement of these former combatants will continue to pose serious security and social problems to Liberia and the West African sub region.

There is also the issue of the fate of former warlord /President, Taylor. Though seemingly out of the way in exile in Nigeria, Taylor's indictment by the United Nations Special Criminal Court in Sierra Leone, the pressures on Nigeria to hand him over for trial and Nigeria's refusal unless an elected Liberian President requests for his handover, mean that the new Liberian President shall all too soon confront and deal with the issues of Taylor's fate, one way or the other. The fractiousness between the different ethnic groups in the country and the lines along which previous conflicts were fought in Liberia also mean that the new Liberian President should avoid partisanship and endeavour to carry along in her administration as many positive political shades in Liberian politics as possible.

It is not only the new Liberian President however that faces challenges; the international community also has a further challenge not to withdraw its interest and support in Liberia too soon (including the 15,000 strong UNIMIL force), at least until such a time as the country would have achieved stability with multiplier effects on its neighbours and the sub-region.



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Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf's election as first African female head of government of the nation of Liberia should be satisfying to every believer in merit as against the maintenance of status quo by some chauvinist African male twigs. The Liberia election went as I had hoped, expectantly, other clueless African nations should follow by allowing women the equal chance of taking over the leadership of their nations. They are more peaceful and focused than their male counterparts who are wallowed in corruption.
Na lie o, women for naija are just as corrupt if not more than the men.

It is a shame that Liberia rigged this woman into power. Women should not be made Presidents or political leaders. Do you see Russia, Japan or the good old USA doing it? No way Jose. Just watch that experiment as Liberia falls from frying pans into the fire.

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I completely agree with you, Nigeria women are more corrupt than their men counterparts. Otherwsie why would 20 years old girl be having a child with Obasanjo, a man with 17 other wives. or better why would Jenifer Yumila Abubaker Douglas be marrying VP Atiku. Many Nigeria women still believe that their asset is still what they have between their legs as a way of getting ahead.

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Now that Obasanjo has buckled under the pressure of George W and agreed to surrender Charles Taylor, expect Bush to start back-pedaling on his opposition to Obasanjo's 3rd term.
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From the BBC:
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Charles Taylor stepped down in 2003 to end Liberia's civil war
Liberia's ex-President Charles Taylor, who is wanted on war crimes charges, has disappeared from the villa where he lived in exile, Nigeria says.
All of those supposed to have been guarding him have been detained.

At the weekend, Nigeria said it would let him be arrested, but both Liberia and the US said Nigeria should send him to a UN-backed war crimes court.

Mr Taylor stepped down as president in 2003 under a deal to end the Liberian civil war, which he started in 1989.

He went into exile in Calabar, in south-eastern Nigeria.

The BBC's Mark Doyle in Freetown says there are powerful political forces at play over Mr Taylor's fate.

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Mr Taylor's whereabouts are not clear but his spiritual advisor Kilari Anand Paul told the BBC News website that Mr Taylor was in the Liberian bush, from where he first launched his rebellion.

He also said the former Liberian leader would be happy to face justice in The Hague but not in Sierra Leone.

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I was well convinced that Olusegun Obasanjo would never hand Taylor over to the tribunal

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Taylor: Have Your Say

The AP news agency reports that members of Mr Taylor's entourage have been leaving Calabar for several days.

Nigeria's President Olusegun Obasanjo is "very shocked" by Mr Taylor's disappearance on Monday, Information Minister Frank Nweke told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme.

Nigeria has set up a panel to investigate the matter, and to establish whether he escaped or was abducted, Mr Nweke said.

Lobby group Human Rights Watch says Mr Taylor's disappearance is a "disgrace".

"It brings into question President Obasanjo's commitment to peace and security for the people of West Africa, the reason he allegedly took Taylor in the first place."

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After Nigeria announced that it would let Mr Taylor face trial, Desmond de Silva, chief prosecutor of the war crimes court in Sierra Leone, called for Mr Taylor's immediate arrest, warning that he could use his vast wealth and contacts to organise his escape.

He described Mr Taylor as one of the three most important wanted war crimes suspects in the world.

TAYLOR TIMELINE

1989: Launches rebellion
1991: RUF rebellion starts in Sierra Leone
1995: Peace deal signed
1997: Elected president
1999: Lurd starts rebellion to oust Taylor
June 2003: Arrest warrant issued
August 2003: Steps down, goes into exile in Nigeria


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Taylor ripples across region
Mr Taylor was indicted on 17 charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity, concerning his alleged backing for Sierra Leone's rebels, shortly before stepping down in 2003.

The news comes as a huge embarrassment for Mr Obasanjo, who is travelling to the US to meet President George W Bush in Washington on Wednesday.

On Monday, the US said it was "incumbent upon the Nigerian government now to see that he [Mr Taylor] is conveyed to the international court."

Liberian President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf said she wanted her predecessor to be sent directly to Sierra Leone, as he had not been indicted by a Liberian court.

A number of Mr Taylor's supporters have been detained in Liberia amid fears they may stage an armed uprising.

Tens of thousands of people died in the interlinked conflicts in Sierra Leone and Liberia.

Mr Taylor is accused of selling diamonds and buying weapons for Sierra Leone's Revolutionary United Front rebels, who were notorious for hacking off the hands and legs of civilians during a 10-year war.

He also started the Liberian civil war in 1989, before being elected president in 1997.

Taylor should not be surrendered under pressure from war criminals in the West. Obasanjo should tell Bush to first surrender himself, Don Rumsfeld, and the other neo-con war criminals in Washington.
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Charles Taylor has disappeared and could not be found where he resides in nigeria, probably he might have been abducted, thats naija for you every thing is possible. The present president of liberia Ellen Sirleaf Johnson the way U.S were talking about her as if her hands are clean,the lady was in Samuel Doe and Charles Taylor's administrations when they were committing atrocities against their fellow liberians and now she has rigged her way to the presidency she has been humanised by the out side world with out looking at her past. All that i hear is, Havard graduate technocrat as if thats prerequisite for good leadership,Charles Taylor and Jonas Savimbi of Angola where once a student of havard so we have to bow and kiss their feet as if havard is the only university that produces leaders of thought give me a break.
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Really? President Ellen Sirleaf Johnson served in both admininstration of Doe and Taylor? No wonder she was dragging her feet to arrest Taylor and send him to the UN backed tribunal in Sierra Leone.

By the way, who is responsible for handing Mr. Charles Taylor to UN backed tribunal in Sierra Leone? My take is that, it is not the responsibility of Nigeria.

I do not know whose responsiblity it is, but I do know that if Mr. Taylor were an American facing similar situation, America should have sent FBI to arrest him. So, based on this premise, Liberia should have taken the lead to arrest Taylor in Nigeria and hand him over to UN backed tribunal in Sierra Leone.

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