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I have wanted to engage the 3 ethinic majorities, IGBO, YORUBA and HAUSA-FUlANI on this forum, in a diputes of what minority will go with what Majority when Nigeria breaks up.
There can only be 3 states: Biafra, ODUDUWA and Arewa for this simulation.
The minority contributors within the forum must chose one republic and say why. No extra republics please.
I will start by saying that the IDOMAS should come into the Igbo majority state (Biafra).
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I have no idea why you decided to open up this useless thread. For your information, and for those that want to hear, no minority wants to establish further relationship with Ibos. They've had enough of your nagging.
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quote: There can only be 3 states: Biafra, ODUDUWA and Arewa for this simulation ..Rufukuku
Is there a reason why there must be only three states?. For your information, the Ijaws with a population claim of about 12 million are no less interested in leaving Nigeria. You may need to return to the drawing board and come up with something better.
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I will prefer it if you contributed to thread on the basis of the variables. If you feel that the simulation I am trying to achieve is not to your liking , understanding or standard, I suggests that you ignore the thread.
My clear insult was to Mota. My friends in most of my life have been Yorubas from Ogbaland, but there are Yorubas, but not exclusively, that such affront applies to, namely Mota.
My friends speak frequently about the destruction of businesses in IBADAN by Nigeria. I will not name names - but such decent working people are being destroyed.
Mota
You are clearly a One nation Nigeria (ONN), and as such stick to your like, whether they are Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani.
On the IZON people of Nigeria, your ONN group have continued you attack on these people. An underhand Genocide that has been unrelenting.
My view of Biafran development is that the IZON country is up to the IZON. If the IZON want to join Arewa or Oduduwa they have the free will to do so. Strategy may call for a more refined approach.
I have told my friends in Yenagoa that the Igbo are not interested in IZON resources when they talked about the Igbo being interested in their oil. I will remind you as I told them, there are oil in 4 Igbo states and throughout the Igboland part of the delta.
And as of May 2003, the oil income or accrued to Nigeria was about $4.5 billion. Consequently, I am not interested in oil. If I could physically move the oil from Nigeria to America, I would. Oil is merely fools gold.
If you really wanted to Advocate the case for the IZON, I suggest that you open a thread to advocating the IZON agenda. Resource control, , War crimes for the odi criminals, Warri district area re-mapping, etc.
For your information, since the Bayesla arose, the people investing within the Yenagoa apart from the indigenous IZON peoples are the Igbo. As the Ijaw invested in Port Harcourt, the Igbo are doing the same in reciprocity.
Nations are built through mutual understanding and Cooperation and not through hatred.
If this thread is counter to your ONN agenda, please ignore it.
This son of Nri will not be drawn into a baseless ONN agenda.
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Lets stick to the simulation . Spurious mantras to ONN is not the issue. I will engage Mota on a later date on the viability of ethnicity in a polity.
Mota
Put simply, what do you advocate, 120 million states, with names such MOTA OGALLALA REPUBLIC.?
The attainment of IZON republic will be quicker under a united front of Biafra first, and followed by IJAW republic within say 10 years (written down in agreement). In the interim the constitution will provide for 80% derivation of the oil revenue for oil communities.
A divided approach will be futile. Remember how the ONN picked off the minorities one by one.
You make out as if the Igbo are beggars, How many beggars do you see in Igboland? I am Igbo, and say to any minority, if you don't want to be in Biafra, fight for your own nation. After supposed losing the war, those who thought they are on top can not understand how a people given an equivalent of $20 per man, now control the bulk of the moneyed economy apart from oil. A defeated people indeed. Defeated people are beggars and poor.
After the massacre in Benue, the Tiv approached Massob. As the Nigeria plunges further into the inferno, this will become more frequent.
Personally, my preference is for an Igbo state. But given the need to acknowledge this, Biafra in a united front must be the first stage.
Are you saying that the IJAW should be within Oduduwa republic? How about the Itshekiri? Are you suggesting that the IJAW and Itskekiri become one?
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Why are you so dim wit hung up on breaking Nigeria up? Of what relevance is your quest to separate the country when things seems to be working well, endorsed by the international community, even if you are blind to see it? And who are your friends who "speak frequently about the destruction of businesses in Ibadan by Nigeria?"
Answer these questions and I will be back.
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A Point by point response is required against your ravings:
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Why are you so dim wit hung up on breaking Nigeria up?
The break-up of Nigeria is caused by the ONN. Instruments and policies from fantasistas in the vain of a weberian state is causing the demand by Biafrans, Igbos , Ijaws, Yorubas and increasing majority numbers within other enthnic nationalities to opt out of a dysfunctional real republic.
One does not posit to be a God, Devin or a magician.
And lunacy is left to the mental.
Enlightenment can not be achieved by the blind. The res publica ended at its birth. The debate is how transmogrification is achieved.
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Of what relevance is your quest to separate the country when things seems to be working well, endorsed by the international community, even if you are blind to see it?
"… things seem to be working well, endorsed by internationa community….." surely I am not seeing a calumnia. An election rejected by the independent election monitors from the USA, EU and catholic church is deemed by you as an endorsement. Negative economic growth and its antecedents is taken as prosperity.
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And who are your friends who "speak frequently about the destruction of businesses in Ibadan by Nigeria?"
As for my friends in IBADAN I will put it like this. They made their money through industry, and not nouveau venu Before I will disclose such names, I will get a release. But in this case I will not as I see your request as intrusive. Furthermore, with negative economic growth, inflation of over 300% a year and a fall in the currency compared to the dollar of about 30% in the last year, I can say that businesses weather in Igboland, Youbaland , HauasLand and Nigeria as whole will suffer from the same faith: no profits and bankruptcy.
Mota,
As I have answered you questions. Please can you do me a favour and tell me these thing about you:
What is your real name?
What state, town do you come from in Nigeria?
What is you ethnic origin?
What education have you got? Secondary school, etc?
What jobs do you parents do or did in Nigeria?
What is your objective in being on BiafraNigeria messageboard?
The Futility of arrogance is not lost to this son ERI.
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Stop being nosy, but I will try as much as I can to give you a little lecture about my dual origin. But before then, let's take a look at what you wrote and why your ramblings suggests breaking up Nigeria is the only way out.
Here is what you wrote:
quote:...things seems to be working well, endorsed by the international community..." Surely I am not seeing a calumnia. An election rejected by the independent election monitors from the USA, EU and Catholic Church is deemed by you as an endorsement. Negative economic growth and its antecedents is taken as prosperity.
Well, my friend, when I said "endorsement by the international community," I was referring to a sound democratic fabric, meaning upholding the rule of law. Every system has its flaws including the United States and the Catholic Church. Remember the vote in Florida and the mess in the Catholic Church?
Then you went further to know about my personal life and my entire family. I just don't believe you.
quote:Mota, As I have answered your questions. Please can you do me a favour and tell me these thing about you:
What is your real name? What state, town do you come from in Nigeria? What is your ethnic origin? What education have you got? Secondary school, etc.? What jobs do your parents do or did in Nigeria? What is your objective in being on Biafranigeriaworld messageboard?
Geez, I still don't believe you but take a look:
My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh. I am a descendant of the Okirika tribe in what is now Bayelsa State. The former attorney general of Bayelsa State, Ms. C. Yekwe is a close relative of mine. My other ethnic origin is of the Cherokee nation in the Georgian Plains before President Andrew Jackson persecution of the Indians. As a result, my ancestors relocated to a small farming community called Ogallala in Keith County of Nebraska. I am a high school dropout, thus preferred farming and livestock investments. My father raised cattle in Ogallala. My objective of being in Biafranigeriaworld messageboard is to tell the truth and nothing but the truth.
It might also interest you to know that Ogallala derived its name from the Oglala Band of the Dakota Sioux Indians, later established as a cowtown. It is the largest community in the Lake McCounghly area. It is located nine miles south of Kingsley Dam on Hwy 61 at the crossroads of I-80/Highway 30 and Highways 26/61. It has the newest hospital between Denver and Omaha staffed with medical professionals including a Nigerian surgeon to handle any emergency. There is also Adams Bank and Trust of Ogallala. I will not give you informations about the bank since you might take the opportunity to use it in one of your 419 runs.
Now that you've known a little bit about me, who the hell are you? Where the hell is Azam?
My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, the proud native American.
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Interestinly mota ogalala was such a confused breed without root.
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The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government.
My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, the proud native American.
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Rufuruku, Thanks for nailling this Mota of a guy who has been going from thread to thread disrupting discussions. When I told Ike in another thread that instead of banning confussionists like Mota and thereby making giving them reason to criticize this board, it is better to let them run their mouth until they hit themselves against the wall. As I did assure Ike, that the likes of Mota might have ninty-nine days to hide, but it will take the intrution of a well-meaning member of this board to expose them, unkowing to Mota, that is what your short exchange with him has done! As we Igbos would say, Ochu nwa okuko nweada...
Mota: Just like most forumites who know who and where the great kingdom of Okrika is located in present Nigeria, I couldn't help than laugh when you IGNORANTLY and SHAMELESSLY said that Okrika is in Bayelsa State. As one who grew up and did all my schooling in Port-Harcourt and is a frequent visitor to Okrika town, which is a few nautical miles from Port-harcourt and belongs to present Rivers State, I wonder where you got the information that the administration of Okrika has been moved to Bayelsa State.
With nuts like you teaching the otherwise homeboys like most members of this fora about a Nigeria which you clearly are not part of (either by origination, birth or adoptation), you give credence to those who say that the greatest obstacle to lifting Nigeria from the pit she is is that just like some FAKE Biafran advocates, most people who argur in favour of the continuation of the status quo in Nigeria are a BUNCH OF FRAUD. With the exposure above, I need not tell anyone that YOU (Mota) IS A FRAUD. So be sure that whatever you say from hence will be seen from that point. Poor Boy!
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Nwa bu onye ocha upa (red). Obu nwanta (nwatakili -awka okwu) onye ocha na egwu a egwu na internet. Oduru nkpa, ka anyi ma ye ka aru ( nwanta) obu.
Mota
Before we continue, please answer my last question:
How old are you?
I have made my point. Everybody now knows.
Not being a BifraNigeria does not exclude one from this forum as you know. We all want you to come clean.
Stop making-out that you are of Nigerian stock.
We can all do complex searches in the yahoo. And unfortunately for you too, Bayesal is my buddy's state. I also did a test search using Bayesal and that threw up Ms C. Yekwe. Moat, a bit clever, but you discussion were based on the past contribution from other people in the forum.
A different view is appreciated in our discussions. But there are issues which are important that must not be trivialised in our discussions. Of course there are issues which we have a good laugh at.
On more educational basis, if you opened a thread in the future about Native Americans, this may well be informative as no experience is wasted. We can then apply such knowledge to our struggle in Biafranigeria.
On a personal note. I want to open a farm in Nigeria in the future growing cereals and livestock. If in the future, 1,2,10 or 20 years I need a livestock consultant, I will remember Mota, the livestock guy.
But before this Mota:
I want you to apologies to everybody on this board for you behaviour.
And lastly I want to know you age. Have you just left high school? If you force my hand, I will pay for a search on Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, Ogallala, Nebraska, USA.
We all make mistakes, but yours was a big one. Your apology must be as big.
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quote:My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, the proud native American
quote:Yes! Just like that proud native American General William Tecumseh Sherman. A hood does not make a monk, especially when the 'hood' is just a handle.
Wacko
quote: I want to open a farm in Nigeria in the future growing cereals and livestock. If in the future, 1,2,10 or 20 years I need a livestock consultant, I will remember Mota, the livestock guy.
rufukuku
quote:As I did assure Ike, that the likes of Mota might have ninty-nine days to hide, but it will take the intrution of a well-meaning member of this board to expose them
NwaAro
quote:We all make mistakes, but yours was a big one. Your apology must be as big.
quote: I want you to apologies to everybody on this board for you behaviour.
And lastly I want to know you age. Have you just left high school? If you force my hand, I will pay for a search on Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, Ogallala, Nebraska, USA.
RUFUKUKU
Pray, tell us; what apology? and for what behavior?. Why do you want to know the guy's age and high school info. When did you become the taxmaster on this board and why all those intrusive questions?. Can't you get busy with better things? Jeez! For crying out loud. The only mistake the guy (Mota) made was even condescending to answer your childishly irrelevant questions. Abeg, if na joke, make una stop am, aight?. As far as some of us are concerned, we would rather have ten MOTA(S) on this board than one unknown entity named RUFUKUKU.
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What a bunch of riffraffs parading as true revolutionaries with the so-called Biafran logo! Now they want information about my age, my alma mater in Ogallala, and my bank account. Good gracious!
One thing for sure, Okirika is not Ibo. Okirika is not Ikwerre, either. Nor is Okirika Igurita. And Ikwerre is not Ibo.
You are all a bunch of messageboard fanatics without a country.
My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, the proud native American
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"One thing for sure, Okirika is not Ibo. Okirika is not Ikwerre, either. Nor is Okirika Igurita. And Ikwerre is not Ibo.
You are all a bunch of messageboard fanatics without a country." Mota
The above statement from Mota the dunce is enough to tell u that he is a pathological ignorant liar. Since when did Ikwere become non Igbo. I guess you think I'm non Igbo 'cause my name Odili is very popular in Rivers State. How can you claim to be Okirika when u have no idea where the Okirikas are located in this present day Biafra-nigeria? Chei, nwokem ibu ozu. Don't come back here again if you are not sure about yourself. Be yourself, stupid landless Native American.(if u really are Indian)
Rufukuku, You are too much. Kunaka. We need more than 20 kukus. Ask more questions whenever u feel like. It's a God given right.
What have you been smoking all day? You seem to snap when it's all over by making the following comments which indicates how airheads like you can never be articulate when it comes to dealing with the issues:
quote:Don't come back here again if you are not sure about yourself. Be yourself, stupid landless Native American.
First of all, let me ask you, what the hell are you doing in Houston if I am a "stupid landless Native American?" I have told you and your ilks in so many occasions that you are a bunch without a country and here you are calling me a landless native American. Talk about morons! You must be out of your mind and I sincerely believe you need some help. Seriously, you do.
Your collective bunch of airheads--Rufukuku, Nwa Aro, Okwyonwuka, Wacko, Umuibe, NwaBiafra, Ojoto, Dave--have not made any significant posts, rather you deviate to dragging my name into your problems in a negative and derogatory way. I bet, you wouldn't have known Ogallala existed until I arrived.
Decent men like Ukaobasi, Ohafian Udumeze, Thompson Buraimoh, Damian, Biafra, Amadi O., CSE, Ednut, Kunle, Bababoyz, Tunde Onabanjo, Addy, Idowu Ogbo, Patrick, Ogbunigwe, Egwuatu Ozoemena and other fine men in this fora will never use inflammatory remarks against members of this board.
But for the bonehead Rufukuku who insists on knowing my age and the school that I attended, he can kiss my shitty asshole. What a moron whose name is more questionable than any in this mad house!
The greatest thing about America is the right to disagree with the power structure without fear of torture or death at the hands of the government.
My name is Mota Ogallala Tekumseh, the proud native American.
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Rufukuku, Can you please expalin to me why the Idomas should be part of Biafra? What have done to deserve it? If I'm not wrong the Idomas and other middlebelters fought Biafra more than any other group so what's your point. They deserve their own country not Biafra. As a Biafran I'm willing to work with them not live with them.
Arewa republic will be the most unstable due to religious differences. I bet you no Northern christian or middlebeltan is ready to join the Jihardist bloodsucking Hausas and Fulanis. Arewa will be stable if left for the muslims to share by themselves not with christians form middlebelt and ares like southern kaduna. Don't forget about sharia and the hatred and violence it generates.
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Hip hip hooray! The internal strife has begun. What a bunch of morons who won't read before they write.
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One more thing, before you dabble into one of those your meaningless and silly questions, respect my person as a Senior Advocate of this fora. Copy?
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------- "Your collective bunch of airheads--Rufukuku, Nwa Aro, Okwyonwuka, Wacko, Umuibe, NwaBiafra, Ojoto, Dave--have not made any significant posts, rather you deviate to dragging my name into your problems in a negative and derogatory way. I bet, you wouldn't have known Ogallala existed until I arrived.
Decent men like Ukaobasi, Ohafian Udumeze, Thompson Buraimoh, Damian, Biafra, Amadi O., CSE, Ednut, Kunle, Bababoyz, Tunde Onabanjo, Addy, Idowu Ogbo, Patrick, Ogbunigwe, Egwuatu Ozoemena and other fine men in this fora will never use inflammatory remarks against members of this board.---Mota. --------------------------------------------------
Smart guy! Just like others before you, when they are caught in their STUPIDITY, instead of either being a man and admit their mistake (or ignorance) all they do is to apply the old game-plan of most confusionists of divide-and-rule. Mr. Native American, I dont care who is your "gentleman" of the century, just as I dont need any award from a fraudster like you. None the less, my motto has been, is and will remain that if one comes here to show how he/she is misinformed, it is MY RIGHT (just as it is your right to fumble) to tell the person how IGNORANT he/she is. The way I do that IS MY RIGHT as well.
So when next you and your ilk come here to make your way-off claims, just have your facts, otherwise...
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Is the Addy person the same as the person as nom de plume Mota Ogallala Tekumesh?
Do you and Mota share the same house, bed and brain?
Umunne
Oduka Addy na Mota bu ofu.
The interesting thing about this , is that if you write anything counter to Mota, Addy is there abouts to support Mota and even reply, but trying to hide it. And in this particular thread; in the last few instance, when Addy posts, Mota posts. I think it is more than a coincidence.
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"….Abeg, if na joke, make una stop am, aight?. ……."
AddyMota
Is a bit of an apology but I want you Addy to say the fact that you are Mota under a pseudonym.
You clearly don't know anything about the delta, so I will let Odili educate you in matters of the region as he is a son of river state.
And is your belated reply to the last set of questions a further sign of your dependency on yahoo?
And I suppose you went to Ogallala public school where you dropped out?
What year did you drop out?
Or are you getting confused whether you are Mota or Addy? Strange that Addy is kind of trying to apologise for Mota.
And you write quite similarly: Geeze
Do you think a drop-out is more intelligent than those who completed high school and more?
Anybody could register twice or even more. If you want I can register as Juan Carlos from spain.
Yet I am still waiting to know how an Ijaw woman got married to Indian cattle herder or is ADDY trying to get two votes in any discussion. Is this a trick you learnt from Aremu (An ONN that is killing his people).
And I suppose you went to Ogallala public school where you dropped out?
What year did you drop out?
Or are you getting confused whether you are Mota or Addy? Strange that Addy is kind of trying to apologise for Mota. And you write quite similarly: Geeze
Umunne: Odilli (Dike rivers!), I salute you.
Biko, go se Nwanta ife bu ife na obodo rivers.
On a different note brother,
I think the Idoma case may be different from Angas (Gowons people) and some other middle belt people.
The Idoma culture is quite IGBOID although they use the world Idomoid to classify it. And I saw an Idoma man wearing the IGBO red cap chief in a pictu
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