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There has been an explosion at the UN headquaters in Baghdad. Several people are dead. This is further proof that Bush and his Zionist handlers conducted a 16th century invasion in a 21st century environment. Where are the massive crowds that were supposed to welcome the US invaders? Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
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Are you celebrating this senseless act of mass murder ? Tell me how this is going to stop the occupation of Iraq ? If anything all this sabotage will go to lenghten the American stay in Iraq. The earlier the Iraqi's begin to cooperate with GW the sooner the troops would be gone from their land, such acts of cowardice are not productive and will not hasten the departure of American troops from Iraq. The Saddam loyalist should have put up a good battle when there was a war, it's all over now and they need to give peace a chance.
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No one needs to celebtrate the attack to make the point. But, any country that "gives peace a chance" after it has been invaded is condemned to slavery. Go and ask the Biafrans.
Before any fool starts asking if I am comparing Bush with Saddam, you ought to know that no American president will tell US citizens to "give peace a chance" if the US were invaded by a foreign power. Americans will be told and indoctrinated to resist by any means possible.
The UN was incapable of doing anything to stop the aggression in Iraq. Therefore, the UN has no business in Iraq while the war is still going. Yes, the war is still going on. The UN should leave it to the Americans and the Iraqis. What makes you think that Americans will not quickly return to Baghdad if the Iraqis just rolled over and played dead just so the Americans would leave? It is Bush's intention to stay in Iraq for 20 or more years and bilk the oil. No amount of cooperation from the Iraqis will shorten that.
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Daud, pray tell me what did sadam do for his people in thirty years? You may talk about salvary all you want, but we the oppressed of the world are tired of 'rulers' like saddam, aremu or taylor,who can neihter feed us nor provide our children with basics of life. All you 'free' men can get on a boat and sail to where you wish, because in your eyes America can do no right. You do not even speak for Biafranigerians should a war of liberation be planned today.
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Yesterday's bombing of the UN office in Baghdad and the bombing of the Jordanian embassy some days ago represent a new escalation in the war for Iraq. It was also predictable.
The mistake the coalition force in Iraq make and continues to make is its lack of appreciation of Iraqi nationalism. And the nationalist's goal to make Iraq ungovernable and depriving the so-called Iraqi intrim governing council of legitimacy.
I have a strong feeling that those Iraqis who are currently fighting against armed occupation have clearly read and understood the Vietcong tactics against the French and Americans. First is to turn the larger society through actions that make life unbearable for them against America. This probably explains the various acts of sabotage against oil pipelines, generators and water systems. Second, is to turn the flat, open space of Mesopotamia into sand and concrete jungle whereby soldiers on patrol duty , will not know where hence the next attack will come from. Thirdly, and finally, will come the predictable uprising of the larger society against occupation. And then would it be crystalized for those still in doubt that America and Britain have really walked into a hornets nest.
The focus on capturing Saddam Hussein should be de-escalated, at least from its pre-eminent place in the media. Saddam Hussein has for all intents and purposes has become irrelevant to the local and Arab fighters for Iraq.
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Can anyone say Lebanon? That is what I see Iraq ending as. I really don't think that Pres. Bush and his national security team did a good analysis of the consequences that are to follow before jumping into the frakas in Iraq.
USA might be well served to declare victory and go home.
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It is only the barstardized moslems with an IQ of brain dead will take such an action. By the way 95 percent of Iraqi's died in tbat blast. It depicts the lowest level of their functioning and the dark pages of Islam. This is not an attack on the UN, it is an attack on the Iraqi people. Too bad Islam does not have a page for humanity.
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The UN headquarters bombing took some innocent lives; mostly Iraqi lives. I was surprised to hear that the bomb blast site was the UN building as I was puzzled to see the justification for such an attack. Anyone would think that since the UN played a minimal role in the recent attack on Iraq, pockets of Iraqi resistance would be discerning enough not to fraught their war against the ‘yanks’ with a possible global apathy by their unprovoked attacks on visible symbols of the world community as embodied by the UN.
Unfortunately, the effect of such an action (if it was really orchestrated by the relatively displaced Iraqis and not by sundry Arab terrorists hiding out in neighboring countries), was that it has forced the hand of the decision makers at the UN. The UN as you would expect, had every right to leave the Herculean task of reconstructing Iraq to the US. Indeed, it was the position that it had largely adopted coupled with the fact that the Bush Administration appeared to be in no hurry to cede the task of reconstructing Iraq to the UN for obvious reasons. However, in the light of this recent ignominious and utterly senseless act of aggression against the UN, the UN might be forced to refocus the lens through which it views the NUMEROUS problems facing the ‘yanks’ as they (the yanks) seek to make Iraq a viable economy like other nations it had the fortune of defeating in a war.
Were the people that bombed the UN headquarters really the poor Iraqis? If they were, how helpful is this going to be to their cause? Could it have been masterminded by vaporous, stateless, Al-qaeda-type Arab terrorists seeking to utilize the Iraqi situation as a perfect cover to launch vicious attacks on anything ‘un-Arabic’ in the middle East?
In the end, the UN might PREDICTABLY do nothing about this attack like the toothless bulldog it has always been. If it however takes the view that the peace-keeping and national restructuring efforts in Iraq were being sabotaged to a great extent by hostile Arab fundamentalists, look for a drastic change in the policies it would adopt in future months. The UN, it would appear, is poised to help in the reconstruction of Iraq, but it would not accept a marginal role nor would it accept that the US continue to be at the helm of affairs; but if there is a sustained spate of bombings on all things perceived to be anti-Islamic, anti-Arab or anti-Iraqi, (i.e, if US soldiers cease to be the ONLY casualties) one would not be hard-pressed to envisage a situation were the global sentiments currently swinging in the favor of the displaced and helpless Iraqis could spontaneously give way to feelings of indifference and apathy.
The frightening prospect?
Perhaps then, those Iraqis who have the inalienable right to protest against the occupation of their country by any force they deem ‘hostile to their collective interests’ might be dismissed as nothing but bloodthirsty, fundamentalist, jihadist rebels thus necessitating their reconfiguration in global view, to be part of the menace of global terrorism which the rest of the world would no doubt have to unwaveringly tackle.
My condolences go to the families of the deceased both Iraqi and otherwise. May they find strength and comfort as they mourn the untimely demise of their loved ones.
On the SAME DAY that someone exploded a bus at the UN headquarters in Baghdad creating a sight of massive destruction, despair and death, elsewhere in the world there was another explosion in a bus. Yes, in Jerusalem, a bus carrying mostly innocent CHILDREN and women was blown up by a homicide bomber killing and injuring many. HAMAS (a state-sanctioned and state-supported terrorist outfit) came out later and claimed responsibility. These innocent lives lost to the actions of these terrorists (who have seemingly captured the Palestinian plight to launch unprovoked attacks into Israel) are also regretted.
Unfortunately, that little incident in Jerusalem (that occurred on the SAME day) was conspicuously omitted for reasons best known to the originator of the thread. I hesitate to hazard a guess to comfortably explain this obviously ‘transparent’ oversight.
There you go again! anticipating the direction of a discourse:
quote:Unfortunately, that little incident in Jerusalem (that occurred on the SAME day) was conspicuously omitted for reasons best known to the originator of the thread. I hesitate to hazard a guess to comfortably explain this obviously ‘transparent’ oversight. --- Anaedo
You just couldn't resist, could you?
I understand why a Jew would like to see us link everything to the "holocaust." But, I have not fully grasped why a black dude like you thinks that an attack in Iraq could not be discussed without dragging in events in Israel. Since you can't seem to get out of the hole you dug for yourself in Nigeria, you must be one of the people who suffer from the return to Israel promised land syndrome. When will you move to Israel and leave us alone? You seem to be thoroughly enjoying the genocide that Israel is perpetrating against Palestinians in the West Bank and Gazza Strip. Posts: 449 | Registered: Mar 2001
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Arab fundamentalism in its formative stages
Daud:
Funny how you only reacted to that portion of the post that mentioned Israel. Why do you get paranoid whenever Israel is mentioned? Every nation has their flaws you know. What exactly makes you so severely uncomfortable about the jews? Religious indoctrination perhaps?
When will you learn to coordinate your responses and cease from the predictable resort to invectives when your ALMIGHTY position is challenged or are we to conclude from your predictable ease to discard logic and reason for violence that you might really be an Arab posing as a religious fanatic of the Northern stock? By the way, there are black Arabs in Arab countries, so you are fully aware that I need not stress your color.
Oh by the way, I would move to Israel when you move into the Palestinian territories—only that I pray that before you embark on any destructive missions after we both might have arrived in the middle east, you would have the humanity to inform me (your fellow Nigerian immigrant) of your desire to attack these ‘despicable’ jews. But then again, concerning jews and non-muslims, there is a religiously-sanctioned code of violence in your holy book, is there not?
You are demonstrating daily that you have appointed yourself the chief propagator of Arab fundamentalism and unease on this board; backed by a pre-determinate penchant to noisily dispute by force of verbal slurs(in the absence of choice physical tools of torture and punishment) any person/s, ideas, or statements that offend your suffocating 'sanctimonious' tolerance.
Well, I am still struggling to see why a Hausa 'supremacist elite'(your words not mine ) would rather focus on issues like the mideast at the expense of the events transpiring in his beloved Nigeria.
To attack Igbo people /biafra/Southerners/non-Muslims fundamentalist.
To convince the southern as the Pulaar did to the Hausa chiefs and peasantry ( now generally impoverished and talawakas) that in Islam there is salvation. Forget your problems, gibberish.
And then to steal money for enjoying carnal fruits of middle east Arab whore-goddess procured from public funds.
Daud's Tactics
To open threads that seem informative from the title with a hidden agenda:
Is Donald Rumsfeld a Jew?
Bomb Blast at UN HQ in Baghdad
To channel the discuss to Jew bashing (so to get Igbo on this board to unwittingly attack themselves through the Igbo-Jewish hypothesis)
Raise the issue of Christians Vs Islam by his jaundiced postings as opium to the masses (talawakas).
A Counter Reformation to your fundamental orthodoxy.
Opening different threads with the same objective is only laughable.
Jumping from thread to thread when you can not prove your theories is becoming canon.
Being El fundamentalist as your writing shows, I take that all thievery should be punished. I suggest you go to the ACF and start by stoning and cutting off limbs there.
As a prig, your may start looking at the self first.
Your argument about crowds welcoming Americans, I agree in part.
KI , you say to your self, another good cattle or sheep to the herd.
But digest this, Iraq is similar to Nigeria in a particular way. You have a group of people lumped together in one nation who are incompatible:
Kurds - generally moderate Muslims who are cheering for the Americans.
Sunni - minority fascist Muslim group, but the power base Under Saddam Hussien regime. Daud, does your support for Saddam mean that you are no longer a follower of the lunatic fringe of the faith but now a Johnny come lately fascist dictator supporter?
Where is your faith?
Shite - Majority but fundamentalist, the people that you support as well as the Takrit murderers.
(you have to help me with the above 2 as I am not a Mohammedan)
Christians - Highly educated, and growing population. Converts from Islam are the growing numbers.
As in Nigeria, Iraq should be split into 3 states as above with Christian in the non-fundamental parts or an enclave for Christians.
Who is the slave or who is not?:
As I have argued in another thread, How many Igbo beggars do you find in Nigeria? The fact is the Igbo take from your elite what they have stolen by providing service that you can not do for your selves: shoes, clothing, food packing, retail, transport, education, etc. I will not continue because it is puerile to continue listing your failings.
War is fought in many ways.
You may have a few mega rich lootcracy generals, but the Igbo on average are wealthy from hard work.
All those beggars in your hausa street not slaves but called the alienatedAs you said in your analysis, a people may lose a .
battle but the war can go on, albeit not through killing mostly their own people: look at the Germans, Nippon's, etc.
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The UN was incapable of doing anything to stop the aggression in Iraq. Therefore, the UN has no business in Iraq while the war is still going. Yes, the war is still going on. The UN should leave it to the Americans and the Iraqis. What makes you think that Americans will not quickly return to Baghdad if the Iraqis just rolled over and played dead just so the Americans would leave? It is Bush's intention to stay in Iraq for 20 or more years and bilk the oil. No amount of cooperation from the Iraqis will shorten that.
Ndigbo lost the battle but the war continues.
Your subjugation will be total before you see the light.
By you own analysis, you should ask your self what are the British, French, Dutch, German companies doing in Nigeria. May be to
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……It is Bush's intention to stay in Iraq for 20 or more years and bilk the oil. No amount of cooperation from the Iraqis will shorten that.
Daud
Given the insight by you, about a people thousands of (thanks Anaedo for pointing to this clearly) miles away, perhaps you should look at the exploitation of the Hausa peasantry and of course oil taken from Nigeria. Or is it because the oil is Igbo, Ijaw, Urobho, Ibibio, etc, that it does not matter?
Daud, you are an open book to me, try being an evil genius to your herding friends.
Again to enlighten your in some of your own history. What is your ethnicity, Hausa or Pula? Igbo people have been in the area now called Nigeria for 5-7 thousand years; and as such have the right to the land. The herding homeless fulanis only settled in Nigeria in the 16-18th century. The Hausa may have settled just over a thousand and half years back.
Who has right to the land then?
Daud, go and read your history.
Or am I mistaken, is the mythical founder of the hausa seven states not son of a man from east. The story says that it was the east, which has now been deemed Arabia by some.
You are more recent to west Africa, the Pula part from northern Senegal and the hausa people from the east - Arabia, where ever you like but east.
Given this and my hypothesis that the Igbo were the indigenous people of western Africa, and in particular, Niger and benue areas, Hausa-fulanis should be paying rent for using our desert regions. So as is said with perishable goods, last in first out.
Another cattle herder with superiority complex based on inferior achievements.
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