With the announcement that BiafraNigerian presidency moves to Hausa/Fulani after the Yoruba is done, it is clear that olusegun obasanjo is again telling the Igbo nation to "go to hell." The question now is: Are Biafrans/Igbo going to allow obasanjo/Yoruba to continue to define Igbo land. Or is this the final stroke that gets Biafran best brains, like those famous rocket builders, to assemble again and find answers to the olusegun obasanjo's question.
Folks, this probem has a solution. We cannot solve it by shrinking from the challenge, or allowing the agbata ekee crowd in PDP the free reign they've had this past four years.
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i don't think the problem is what and what Obusonjo does. The Problem is the Igbo efulefus who continue to sell Igbos for a pot of pourage. Until we Igbo dealt with Gorrillas in our moist, the likes of Obasanjo will continue to define us.
You are right about the danger of the home grown enemy to Igbo interests. The actions of those corrupt Igbo house slaves must be a concern to anyone who cares about the welfare of the Biafran nation. But I must add that the Igbos have failed to recognize that the real divide in Biafranigeria is between the east and west. The Yoruba chauvinist elite sees the Igbo as a competitor in a zero sum game of nigerian politics. They use treachery, hate, cowardice and conspiracy to gain undue advantage over Igbo transparency and hardwork. Did you notice their activities before and during Biafra, and how they have worked with passion since then to destroy the facts and histroy of that war? Now they are in control of nigeria, it appears that the only thing they seem to do right is a never-ending fight with the Igbo/Biafra.
Of course they can recruit the efulefu in their campaign; after all, the Biafran crude oil money is available to be used to corrupt everything and buy every greedy slave in Igbo land.
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The Real Divide in BiafraNigeria Politics is Between the East and Western, Between Yoruba and NdiIgbo. The battle line is now drawn. From now on the contest is set.
People, I strongly believe that Nigeria will be a much better place if we talk more of EAST-WEST than we do of NORTH-SOUTH. There is more along our northern corridor than we can dream of on the western corridor. So ndigbo will see more Success political if the should seek a political divide that puts us more with the Gongola farmer and Maiduguri fisherman than with our ertswhile yoruba intellectuals. Igbo depend on this northern axis for her stapples like yam, cocoayam, fish, vegetable and etc. They depend on us for manufactured or fabricated things and to carry their farm products far into the eastern shores and other parts of Nigeria. Igbo are like butterflies that help disperse thier products and put more money in their pockets. The Igbo can not do without the rich earth products we collect from our Northern neighbors. SO I SAY WHY join in a marriage that will not bear any fruits with the west, when we can have productive symbiosis with the North Easterners. IGBO SHOULD LOOK EAST NOT SOUTH, TALK EAST NOT SOUTH.
The comment below, though made in passing, says a mouth full about Southern Nigeria and her people. We have very little in common and are happy as separate even when next door southwards. Removed from Nigeria, Southern Nigerians continue to feel the heat of distrust between one another. This distrust is more in the South between the yoruba and the igbo. It is not just political, it is social, cultural, and economic. My take is that, one thing one can do to heal the divide in Nigeria is to heat the huge gulf in socialization between Yoruba and Igbo.
As people in USA we see it in every city. If Igbos are dominant, the yoruba and other ethnics go underground and never surface. If the dominance is shared, then you will have two organizations with ethnicity or tribe as the main divide. Where there is enough sense to have a Nigerian organization, the spectrum is always obvious. When Igbo become president, yoruba and most south-south go underground. How far can we go on like this? while it is true that some Igbo have very good relations with these other tribes, it appears that when in groupings their anti-igbo radar often always go up.
The unrest we hear of in the Nigerian senate where PDP zones president to Igbo, every effort is made by the non-igbo to be the ones that choose which igbo they want. In many ways we have been shown that the Igbo they want is often the ones we don't want. IN the Obasanjo second term, he even preselected and crowned the senate president before the Igbo had a chance to elect one. When one elected was not one he wanted, he used the courts to make a quick change. So much for one Nigeria. As long as the other tribes particularly the yoruba display openly their distrust and disaffection with Igbo interest, the stability of the south is threatened.
This whole issue of the SOUTH-NORTH zoning in the PDP is aimed to subdue the Igbo interest and to benefit the yoruba. There is too much bad blood and it is often displayed by the yoruba against Igbo more than the Igbo against the yoruba. When you look at the Igbo quest for presidency, we usually would get more folks from the NORTH saying yes than you will get from the West. So given this long standing antagony, it may be best for Nigeria if we begin to see us as EAST -WEST as opposed to North -South. Hopefully some one in the legislator will have the good sense to make Nigeria political division an East -West zoning as opposed to this North-South nonesense with the worst hatreds in one zone.
Also compared to what the Igbo go through in North West and South West, there seem to be less loss of lives and property in the gongola -maidugiri axis. As for the Bakassi Island problems, it is time Igbo people take it personal. Igbo politicians must tie support to any other tribe to a clear support for wholesome political settlement on the issues in favor of the wishes of those who occupy the land. It is time they reach out to the voiceless in that land to say we care and we are with you as the leader nation in the south east. Strategic positioning of Igbo as a national powerhouse is important at this point. Hopefully our senators may have cause to donate their 2 million salah windfall to the repair of an eastern road.
HEN
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What's your beef with our honorable president who emerged in the 11th hour to save our nation from its imminent collapse? Show some respect. He earned it, whether you like it or not.
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We have to learn to be positive. Of course there are some Igbo efulefu, which is not unique to Ndigbo. Every nation have their own efulefu. So we should be careful with some expressions which tend to portray the Igbo as people that cannot unite, cannot make sacrifices and what have you. That is wrong in the first place.
A good procedure could be: 1) thank those who make huge contributions 2) thank those who make less or no contributions and urging them to improve or do more 3) but avoid outright condemnation which does not give room to those concerned to change their attitudes.
The solution to our problems lies on Igbo-one-voice, which simply means the majority of the Igbo, everyone's vote being taken into count.
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Sylva, I think you have a point ,But it could,ve been better if we forget generalising statement-like "Every tribe has Efulefu" ,Our concern is Alaigbo nay Biafra. Other tribes and nation that grow efulefus on tree and sale them in the market ,it might do them some good but for us Ndi Igbo ,we call them as e seem dem. In our own dear Biafra ,we need not to encourage any Efulefu,we cannot pretend that using euphemistic approach we shall regain them. The Efulefus need to be crucified,hulled insult upon,discredited,renounced ,refused and rejected or even ostracisized . Ndigbo have tried every good and brotherly approach to issues,but we always come out second best ,and the reason why we always come out with the tail end of the stick ,is because we have never take out our efulefus -the efulefu way. Amadi my brother, I will also tell you that Obusonjo is a plain coward,He is perpetuating all this evil against Ndigbo because "Oke no na ulo gwara ,nke no na ama na azu di na ngiga" ,If not the likes of Orji uzor,Ngige,Iwuanyanwu,Chris Uba,maduekwe e.t.c,Do you think Obusonjo will have the liver to mess with onye igbo?Knowing that An Igbo man is equal to 21.5 yoroba Educated men,72 yoroba alayes.
I hope Obusonjo is rejoicing and celebrating the death of Fela Anikulapo kuti,for he could,ve given him another lecture on his Thief thief lyrics. The only way we can think of regaining the rightful place of onye igbo is = [1]Go after actualisation of Biafra [2]Put our Efulefus on stake and Jerry Rawlings them [3]Stop addressing any office holder in nIGERIA as excellency but as iwere nka iriem ego . I do not support praising an evil one,so that i will get his ear to address him ,like sylva advocated ,instead i will go for his loin to let him undertstand that -he,ve done enough damage and i am not ready to take more
Inlight and peace
Umuibe
quote:Originally posted by Sylva: That is wrong in the first place.
A good procedure could be: 1) thank those who make huge contributions 2) thank those who make less or no contributions and urging them to improve or do more 3) but avoid outright condemnation which does not give room to those concerned to change their attitudes.
The solution to our problems lies on Igbo-one-voice, which simply means the majority of the Igbo, everyone's vote being taken into count.
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quote:Originally posted by Umuibe: The Efulefus need to be crucified,hulled insult upon,discredited,renounced ,refused and rejected or even ostracisized.
Umuibe,
How do we determine the number of Efulefu in alaigbo? Don't you think that we might end up crucifying some innocents?
What we need is elected, therefore legitimate Igbo leaders whose elections would automatically undermine the effects of Igbo efulefu.
Already, if the above is achieved, the attitude of other nations in Nigeria towards Ndigbo will automatically change for the better, because they would understand that we are united. We can then actualize Biafra, if need be, without crucifying anybody.
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quote:....Knowing that An Igbo man is equal to 21.5 yoroba Educated men,72 yoroba alayes. ....Umuibe
Umuibe,
Seeing that you may not have had the benefit of sound Education, having missed the boat of free education in nIGERIA, Is there a way you can tap the gray mater of your Chike Obi masters on BNW or elsewhere (Amadi O will be a good resource) to explain the ridiculously perverted assertion you just made here?. You know you just reminded me of the slavery era in the US when the constitution was written to recognise a black man as 1/4th of a man. If you ask me, for this senseless play with words, i think you need to get your head a little examined.
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Addy, Thanks for your good and reasonable reply. The fact that i miss good and sound education should be attributed to PA AWOLOWO for giving my old man 20 pounds at the end of the WAR OF ANNIHILIATION. Much thanks for agreeing with me on the mathmatical equation,if not you should,ve told the house ,the ratio -peharps you think it should be 20 well ducated yorobas to one Onye Igbo ? but that was in the seventies .The latest statistic put,s it at my record. By the way which of the Class you belong to A or B -so that i will know how to respond to you. If you are of B class ,then I need not reply you again until you write 72 times ,but if you are of a i will manage 10 times only. i will advise you to denounce your tribe and declare for Biafra then we can check out your mentality and see if we should accept you as a second class "Unrated" national. Wish you a good thinking season.
Umuibe Seeing that you may not have had the benefit of sound Education, having missed the boat of free education in nIGERIA, Is there a way you can tap the gray mater of your Chike Obi masters on BNW or elsewhere (Amadi O will be a good resource) to explain the ridiculously perverted assertion you just made here?. You know you just reminded me of the slavery era in the US when the constitution was written to recognise a black man as 1/4th of a man. If you ask me, for this senseless play with words, i think you need to get your head a little examined. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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quote:Thanks for your good and reasonable reply. The fact that i miss good and sound education should be attributed to PA AWOLOWO for giving my old man 20 pounds at the end of the WAR OF ANNIHILIATION. Much thanks for agreeing with me on the mathmatical equation,if not you should,ve told the house ,the ratio -peharps you think it should be 20 well ducated yorobas to one Onye Igbo ? but that was in the seventies .The latest statistic put,s it at my record. By the way which of the Class you belong to A or B -so that i will know how to respond to you. If you are of B class ,then I need not reply you again until you write 72 times ,but if you are of a i will manage 10 times only. i will advise you to denounce your tribe and declare for Biafra then we can check out your mentality and see if we should accept you as a second class "Unrated" national. Wish you a good thinking season.
...Umuibe
Umuibe, I knew this would be tough but even I for the life of me grossly underestimated the level of your benightedness. You are just horrible. Too bad Ignorance is not painful. Anyway, thanks for your offer but i'll gladly pass and i know i'll have your understanding on this little matter. Of course if as usual, your level of perception is gonna get in the way of clear-headed thinking, i'll break it down for you: I will happily remain the ordinary Yorubaman addy than be an onye IBO Governor Ngige. Got it?, yep!.
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[/QUOTE]Umuibe, I knew this would be tough but even I for the life of me grossly underestimated the level of your benightedness. You are just horrible. Too bad Ignorance is not painful. Anyway, thanks for your offer but i'll gladly pass and i know i'll have your understanding on this little matter. Of course if as usual, your level of perception is gonna get in the way of clear-headed thinking, i'll break it down for you: I will happily remain the ordinary Yorubaman addy than be an onye IBO Governor Ngige. Got it?, yep!. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Hi Addy, It seems you have a tall dream ,If not ,you should,nt have habour the thought of becoming an ordinary yoroba addy [that is another fine name for ALAYE ]And for you to eye Gulpernor Ngige is a sacriledge. Anyway the invitation is still open for you till the night of 31st Dec 2003. This is a golden opp ,u cannot miss for anything . Waiting for your application[mind you you can send it to me as pm,and i will keep it between us]
Umuibe
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addy, Why are you jumping from thread to thread and topic to topic only to demostrate your stupidness, will it not be better for you to find your self something better to do? find a job and keep your self a little busy, i belive you can do better.
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With the announcement that BiafraNigerian presidency moves to Hausa/Fulani after the Yoruba is done, it is clear that olusegun obasanjo is again telling the Igbo nation to "go to hell." The question now is: Are Biafrans/Igbo going to allow obasanjo/Yoruba to continue to define Igbo land. Or is this the final stroke that gets Biafran best brains, like those famous rocket builders, to assemble again and find answers to the olusegun obasanjo's question.
Folks, this probem has a solution. We cannot solve it by shrinking from the challenge, or allowing the agbata ekee crowd in PDP the free reign they've had this past four years. ...Amadi O
Pple; Let's hope Obasanjo is not behind this:
quote:Odenigbo Backs Atiku For 2007 Polls --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As the race to the 2007 presidential election gathers steam, a pan-Igbo cultural association, Odenigbo Forum, has resolved to pitch its tent with the Vice President Alhaji Atiku Abubakar .
This declaration was made in Lagos on Thursday by the President General of the Forum, Chief Martin Okeke, during a press conference. Okeke said his association took the decision to support Atiku because of the group's belief that a truly civilian president must occupy the State House come May 29, 2007.
"We have tried to look at the personalities who have signified their intention to contest for the office either overtly or covertly, and we have come to the conclusion that it is Alhaji Atiku that fits the position most," he said.
Okeke declared "From what we have seen since 1999, we have decided to pitch our tent with the Atiku personality. His service, his countenance and his supporting role since this administration came into office has been most impressive."
What else can one say?. Among the names being bandied about either covertly or overtly is one Medical Doctor; Chimaroke Nnamani, the present governor of Enugu, a fine politician who is currently busy building bridges and promoting his candidacy. Now, this pan-Igbo group is already endorsing Atiku over him?, Wonders shall never cease from the house of the 'Jews of Africa'.
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Its a shame the way some of this Lagos (Western based) and Northern based Igbo contractors form organizations with them as the President, Secretary, Financial Secretary and also the only member of the said organization only to use these organizations to make these types of statements with the pretense that they are indeed speaking for some Ndigbo.
The Nigerians fall for that and I guess these 419 organizations must be making a good living with this fraud.
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