quote: ...disruptive behaviour and utter disregard for established standards...
..."Pidgin boy" may be out to reduce the quality of discourse on this great forum...
...aspiring baba sala's or disruptive behaviour...
...there is something patently inferior about posts by this "PidginBoy"...
It is very interesting to read how Nigerians and those who claim to be "BiafranS" or "BiafraNigerians" react to a Pseudonym such as PidginBoy, whose only offense was to write his postings in pidgin-english.
Pidgin-english is an embarrassment to Africans, especially Westafricans, who were brought up in colonial Africa, and in early independent Africa.
The Caucasian claims that pidgin-english is primitive, and therefore only primitive people make use of it. Black Africans, badly suffering from a severe inferiority complex, have decided to believe this lie.
The majority of Westafricans in Europe, America and Australia do not want to be associated with Africa or pidgin-english, because they have painfully and shamefully realized that Africa is despised in the land of the Caucasian.
This is why you see Africans going around with an embarrassingly fake accent, talking about "What's up, man...!"
It is therefore no surprise that the pidgin- english of PidginBoy is offensive to those Africans who are still languishing under colonial mentality.
I have read through some of the postings on this forum, and came across some heavy verbal fightings and insults. These forum-users were not banned from this forum, even though they used offensive, abusive and foul language. Yet, PidginBoy is banned because of 7 (seven) postings written in pidgin.
Why not be proud of your pidgin-english? There are thousands of afro-caucasian half-castes who never had the chance to visit Africa, who wish they could at least speak pidgin-english.
It is a great shame that the administrators of this forum have now banned PidginBoy, without informing him, or at least issuing out a warning.
What a great shame! This just proves that none of you reading this is really a free and liberated African (exceptions confirm the rule).
For whom it may concern: there is nothing inferior about PidginBoy. Neither was it his intention to disrupt this forum. He is an educated bona-fide afro-caucasian living in Europe, and at this moment has lost his interest in Africa & Africans
Shame on you who slashed PidginBoy because of his love for pidgin-english.
Do you really think that the United Nations will give people like yourselves, who are ashamed of their own heritage, the chance to build sovereign nations like Arewa, Oduduwa, Iboland etc? Niemals!
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I have some questions for you: 1) Who wrote what you quoted above? 2) How did you know that Pidginboy has been banned? And that he received no warnings?
All,
There is one person who, by my standards has to be warned: Mata. I agree with Othniel that, before banning someone, they have to be warned publicly so that they won't denied haven received any warnings.
It is a pity that I have not read any of Pidginboy's posts, so cannot comment more on the issue.
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Othniel: If you could help us answer the question Sylva asked you, ie, how did you know that indeed 'Pdgin Boy' has been banned and "without warning" then we will understand where you are coming from. though I quite agree with you that many folks here have used what can best be described as ROTTEN languages (Nwa Aro has somtimes used same in reply when attacked) but some of the people complaining now either kept quite or supported them. So I wonder why there's this double standard now that someone who speaks another tongue has appeared on the screen.
Dear Administrator: For the sake of fairness and plurarity, I beg that you unban the 'PidginBoy'. Assuming that his only crime was using a language (Pidgin-English) which over ninety percent of Nigerians/West Africans speak and understand. For if there's anything, his writing made this place more colourful and NOT the other the opposite as some posited.
As for those who have suddenly formed the habit of calling for people of different opinion/beliefs to be banned, I say remember where we have been and how we were treated there. For as far as I am concerned, I will NEVER support a situatuib where we were forced out of a Yoruba-dominated NigeriaWorld.com where dictatoship was the rule to an Igbo/Biafra-dominated one where there's NO ROOM for disenting/diverse (not destructive)views/opinions/beliefs. THE WORLD IS WATCHING!
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quote:Originally posted by Sylva: I have some questions for you: 1) Who wrote what you quoted above? 2) How did you know that Pidginboy has been banned? And that he received no warnings? It is a pity that I have not read any of Pidginboy's posts, so cannot comment more on the issue.
@ SYLVA
You can read all the postings of any forum-user by simply clicking on the user's name - this will lead you to the user's profile page - then click on "view recent posts" on the right upper side of the page.
Strange, that after 275 postings from you, you don't know how to view the postings of other forum-users??!!
Here the answer to your questions:
1) The "Anti-Pidgin" quotations can be found in the "Euro-Scum - German cannibal receives a slap on the wrist" thread.
2) I know PidginBoy. He is living and studying in Germany just like myself. We came to this forum just last week and decided to take part in the forum discussion.
___________________ Der Mensch kann tun was er will, aber er kann nicht wollen was er will! Posts: 62 | From: Germany | Registered: Feb 2004
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The rules of the forum are clear. When a person is restricted from posting in the forum, that person has the option of requesting an axplanation from the Administrator via private e-mail. After receiving such explanation, that person may petition the Administrator to reinstate him by explaining his behavior on the forum to the Administrator. The Administrator, as you all know, does not participate in discussions and will only provide an explanation to the affected board member via private e-mail. The Administrator's e-mail address is webmaster@biafranigeriaworld.com. Again, the Administrator will respond only to inquiries from the affected member.
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It's totally wrong to ban Pidginboy just because he expresses himself in his own way. I mean why shouldn't an African / Carribean speak Pidgin and be proud of it. I don't speak pidgin all the time, simply because I'm not as fluent as others. But I'm proud to walk down the street and say to a fellow Biafranigerian "How far?", Oh boy how u dey? He's not the first to speak pidgen. Tijani, Bamidele, including myself, Odili have done it. If u want liberation, u have to liberate yourselves 1st from your pathetic inferiority complex.
We cannot criticize Odili at Egbeomoduduwa while we are here doing the same thing. That is grossly hypocritical and it revolts me to the stomach. Please lets be fair and lift the ban.
How do you know that PidginBoy was banned because he wrote in pidgin English? Did you speak to him and has Pidginboy or his spokesman, othniel, posted the reason the webmaster gave for banning him, if indeed he has really been banned? Or have you just swallowed what othniel had to say?
If you don't know the difference between Chuck Odili's place and BNW, you are confused. For one thing, Chuck Odili would have deleted this thread a long time ago and banned everyone who dared to criticize his actions. Free speech does not mean that there are no rules to follow. The criticisms against Odili were that he refused to explain his rules, hated Biafrans and any pro-Biafra views, and favored his friends when he enforced the unclear rules.
It is extremely hypocritical for some of you to pretend that you want zero censorship at BNW. Sometime ago, some people on this board, including you, Odili, did not want to see anything about o.su. You forced the webmaster to close all the threads on that issue. Was that not censorship? You only want censorship when it favors you.
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On Friday last week, PidginBoy wrote to the Webmaster in his usual pidgin style requesting for permission to enter the restricted Ikenga Think Tank.
The next day, some forum users complained about the pidgin-english style of PidginBoy.
As a result PidginBoy's account thus has been banned since Saturday last week. The message which appears when he tried to log-in is:
quote: Sorry, either your membership has not yet been approved or the board administrators have removed your ability to post to this board. We cannot allow you to perform this action as a result.
The administrators have not sent PidginBoy any email explaining their action. Deactivation of the PidginBoy account was done manually by the Webmaster.
Banning a forum user's account is nothing new, neither is it a big deal. Infact, it is the responsibility of the Webmaster to ensure that the forum's rules are upheld.
However, banning a user and at the same time not informing him of the reason, is not only unprofessional, but also disrespectful and humiliating. This behaviour reveals a typical african malignant spirit of the Webmaster, who took his time and his hand and his PC mouse, and with a few mouseclicks deactivated PidginBoy's account, but did not have the balls to write PidginBoy an email explaining why he was banned.
This reminds me of the highly corrupt african society, where arrests are made without arrest warrants, innocent people are thrown into jail without any court trial, houses and personal belongings are being confiscated without a hearing in court etc.
Bravo. Well done, BiafraNigeria World Message Board. You are truly African. The years spent in the land of the Caucasian did not change or improve you.
It's like they say: you can take a pig and wash it with water and soap, splash perfume over it - at the end of the day the pig will return to the mire of dirt & filth where it came from.
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Dave: You got it wrong. If in your 'you people' you had Nwa Aro in mind, then you are not being sincere.
If you review the threads on this borad you will see where I have repeatedly cautioned those whose habit seems to be to abuse the liberal policy of this board. However, what I take excception at and will continue to do is ANYONE openly or secretly pressuriziing the Adminstraor to do his/her job.
Bottomline: if you dont like what someone said or says, you have to option, either you use better FACTS to defeat him/her. Or you ignore him/her completely. That to me is what being Igbo/Biafran is all about. IGBOS DONT RUN AWAY FROM A GOOD FIGHT, NOR DO THEY ASK THEIR OPPONENTS TO BE THROUGH OUT OF THE HOUSE . That's my point.
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You are not making any sense. My post was addressed to Odili, not to you. I did not even think for one second about you when I made my post to Odili.
You have been here for a very long time and you know that BNW does not ban people carelessly. Look at the idiot, PidginBoy, that you are defending. First, othniel told us that the only reason PidginBoy was banned was that he used pidgin English on the forum. Now, othniel is saying that PidginBoy wrote a letter to the webmaster in pidgin English last Friday requesting access to the restricted forums. Have you verified any of these things? Do you know what the alleged letter contains? What else will othniel tell those gullible enough to swallow his urine.
By the way, did you not support the banning of certain members of this forum about two years ago? Why don't you ask othniel to publish the so-called e-mail transactions between PidginBoy and the webmaster. What is he afraid of?
If you are insinuating that I would run away from a fight with anyone, let that fool try.
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quote:Bravo. Well done, BiafraNigeria World Message Board. You are truly African. The years spent in the land of the Caucasian did not change or improve you.
Othniel:
In your reply to Sylva, you sought to show that you know a lot about how to find things in this forum. Therefore, you should have read that, except for special instances, only a fool submits a post to this forum and expects the webmaster to respond to it? It has been indicated many times in this forum that from time to time the webmaster of BNW is not an African. So, why didn't you tell "your friend," whom you tell us speaks perfect English, to use that language instead of pidgin in his so-called message to the webmaster?
It seems that the years you spent in "the land of the Caucasian" has turned you into a swine. If all that you and PidginBoy learned from "the land of the Caucasian" is to deficate where Black Africans are having a discussion, then the webmaster has a duty to throw you out from the forum like the swines and idiots that you and PidginBoy are. When you are so thrown out, it is not censorship; it is called upholding free speech standards. Posts: 199 | From: Saratoga, CA. USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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You need to ignore Nwa Aro and his ego. Here is a man who claims to be fighting for Ndigbo, but will not hesitate to pull down the house if only to assuage his childish ego. Nwa Aro can't seem to get over his little fights with perceived enemies on BNW, therefore every disagreement that arises is to him an opportunity to knock on his comrades in the so called struggle.I am pretty sure most forumers are tired of his whinning by now.
I know of at least two forumers on this site who have gone out on a limb to reach out to this fellow as a brother, all to no avail. Needless to say he will probably be ignored if he refuses to write directly to the webmaster. Nobody owes Nwa Aro any explanation unless of course he is "pidgin boy" in which case he should write directly to the webmaster for an explanation.
The appeal made to the webmaster was to check the abuse of posting privileges as Pidgin boy/Othniel was jumping from thread to thread posting irrelevant material albeit in Pidgin. Nobody ever said one could not use pidgin on this board, but there is a standing rule against disruptive behaviour and multiple handles. If you ask me Othniel, is in violation of the mulitple handle rule in addition to using the handle pidgin boy to disrupt threads and deserves to be removed if he keeps creating such disruptive characters as "pidgin boy". In the early days of this forum Ajibola Robinson from Egbe omo created numerous characters on this board some of which included "nasounabe" and kept disrupting threads, I believe he was removed when he was discovered and that rule should still be applicable to Pidgin Boy/Othniel.
Odili
When Aluko came on this board and started posting cartoons and insulting women you were one of those who called for his ban. Like somebody earlier noted you also boycotted this board untill the O-s-u issue was resolved.Why do you think Othniel should be allowed to use mulitple handles to disrupt this forum in the name of free speech and pidgin?
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In the topic about Euro-Cannibal, I was having a conversation with othniel. Then I received this from PidginBoy,
---------------------------------------- Kai, old boy e be like say sense done commot from una.
Make I tell you: Man dey chop man for inside ngidi and the rest of africa till tomorrow.
Una no read am for news? for okoroland, di juju wey dey there e big pass di one wey dis yeye oyinbo do.
oti o, i no gree with una. darkie "man-chop-man" e big pass oyinbo im own. at least, di native doctor wey i know for inside teju-osho market, im get plenty human parts for inside fridge.
african juju no get im duplication for oyinbo land. period!
forget! black man for africa im carry shhit three much shotay (Jagua) im mind scatter.
all of una, make una sidown somewhere. oloshi! ----------------------------------------
I quit the conversation on that topic. When I copied PidginBoy's reply to the webmaster and asked for interpretation. Webmaster sent me this message:
Unfortunately, I am not authorized to participate in discussions on the forums or to interpret posts made on the forums. Please, contact the author or one of the other forum members for assistance.
However, I will request BNW Management to review the post and the topic for further action.
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Quote: ------------------------ Here is a man who claims to be fighting for Ndigbo, but will not hesitate to pull down the house if only to assuage his childish ego.---Chiboy. ------------------------
Wrong assesment! Sir, I dont fight for Igbos only. Rather, be it here in the diaspora or at home, I fight for HUMANITY in general (with Nd'Igbo and Igboland as my taproot). And my rule is: do unto others as you would want them do to you. So probably that's where my type of Igbo runs contrary to yours that sees good and bad from ONLY Igbo standpoint.
Quote: --------------------------- I know of at least two forumers on this site who have gone out on a limb to reach out to this fellow as a brother, all to no avail.---Chiboy. --------------------------
What a contradiction! What any reasonable person would ask is if Nwa Aro is that bad an Igboman as you claim above, why go out "a limb" to court his friendship? If brotherhood means me seeing what I dont like but because I want to be in the good books of some, then I MUST keep mute, then know it that Nwa Aro is not in BNW to form a gang of any sort. Nor I'm I here to pull down anyone. I am here purely to make my point as CLEAR as I can be and let the other person do same. With every due respect, I must let you know that FRIENDS DONT CHOSE ME, RATHER I CHOOSE MY FRIENDS.
Quote: --------------------------- Needless to say he will probably be ignored if he refuses to write directly to the webmaster---Chiboy.. -----------------------------
If you (Chiboy) has the right and gut to OPENLY call for someone to be banned, why should Nwa Aro write "directly" to the webmaster (which means secretly) to say what I can also say OPENLY: that I want the person to be unbanned?
Quote: ------------------------------- Nobody owes Nwa Aro any explanation unless of course he is "pidgin boy" in which case he should write directly to the webmaster for an explanation.---Chiboy. --------------------------------
Cheap blackmail! You can do better than that. Without being told you know deep down in your heart that Nwa Aro is NOT the type of person that will take up another handle just to say what I can as well freely and BRAVELY do with my trademark 'Nwa Aro' and let the heavens fall. If you ask the webmaster he/she will tell you that apart from when I wrote him/her sometime in 2002 to request that my posted mail tally be corrected, I have NEVER written him/her thereafter. Since I have NO REASON to. For your information, unlike some of you who indulge in petty gossip, Nwa Aro dont have enough time to sort my personal issues, talkless of indulging in your type of pastime.
Finally, all I can tell you after reading your somewhat pre-meditated mail is that if you have run out of ideas on how to sell whatever you say you believe in, just do the right thing and chill off and recoup. Dont waste your time to express your frustrations and confusion using Nwa Aro or anyone (Igbo or non Igbo) as a scapegoat. Good day.
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quote: It has been indicated many times in this forum that from time to time the webmaster of BNW is not an African. So, why didn't you tell "your friend," whom you tell us speaks perfect English, to use that language instead of pidgin in his so-called message to the webmaster?
That is baloney.
Either the Webmaster is Oyibogo, Kokoye or *A-k-a-t-a is not the point, so go sell your Mr. Webmaster is not African to the birds.
Why was Pidginboy banned? The squad to ask should be Biafra and Chimboy because they are the cheerleaders for banning request.
* = Ti omode ba gbon ogbon kuku, Iya e no yio gbon ogbon sinsin
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Quite frankly, by telling us that he sent a mail written in pidgin to the webmaster, othniel has confessed to attempting to sabotage this forum. To write to the BNW webmaster in pidgin english is a sign of childishness and lunacy. It has nothing to do with being proud of one's culture. Does othniel/pidginboy come from a pidgin culture? Should we now expect the Francophone members of this forum to follow othpigin's footsteps and make all of their posts in creole and send mail to the webmaster in creole? This board is organized in English, not pidgin. Besides, even if pidgin is sometimes accepted in discussions, it should never be used to send mail to the administrator.
Poor Malcolm X. If he could have understood "PidginBoy," he would have called the twit by his real name, OthPidginBoy. Or, Malcolm would have known he was seeing double. Life in Germany must really be getting tough for some of our people.
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When a new member claims to know it all, it becomes difficult to show patience when his ignorance rears its head. I though it was well known on this board that the webmaster is not responsible for admitting people into the restricted forums.
Othniel and PidginBoy should have read the following threads:
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quote:Originally posted by othniel: You can read all the postings of any forum-user by simply clicking on the user's name - this will lead you to the user's profile page - then click on "view recent posts" on the right upper side of the page.
Strange, that after 275 postings from you, you don't know how to view the postings of other forum-users??!!
othniel,
If you click on my username, you will discover that I did not participate in every thread on this board, I first read the title and then the rest if it retains my attention.
Let me take it as I compliment that I have 275 postings. And I doubt that if you hear that I have been banned, you will go through 275 postings to find the reason. Maybe you can do that, but not me.
From the pidginboy's posting, as pasted above by Malcolm X, I think that it merited a warning, not because of the language used but the content of the post. It is my personal opinion. I have never read such a post from anywhere.
I therefore think that the ban on Pidginboy was not due to his use of pidgin, but the content of his mails. Could you tell him to send us through you a copy of the email he sent to the Webmaster? He could still have it in the "sent" folder of his mail software. That email could contain other information on his ban.
Could you also ask him to write the Webmaster? He could be re-integrated.
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I am with you. The webmaster has to figure out a way to protect us from two-headed disturbed reptiles such as othniel/pidginboy. We have to be warned when such a creature crawls into this forum.
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After the heckling, hissing, fingerpointing, insults, allegations and counter-allegations; which is by the way what makes this village interesting and SCARING to some, I must submit that if the innitiators of the 'ban him' chorus had followed the laid down rule of letting the Webmaster do his job unhindered, I dont think this controversy would have risen in the first place.
Quote: ----------------------------- "The webmaster has to figure out a way to protect us from two-headed disturbed reptiles such as othniel/pidginboy.---Renee. ------------------------------
After all said and done, part of Renee's quote above (I totally disagree with the section in her post that gives a member or group of members the right to play the accuser, prosecutor, juror and judge at same time on another person's property, where we are all TENANTS) summerizes all what has been said on this thread. It also kind like vindicate my earlier position then and now, ie, let the Webmaster ALONE make the decision on how to run his property (BNW). That was my position when Amanda & co where banned and that will continue to be my position in future.
For by coming out OPENLY to suggest that that guy be banned before we have CLEAR CUT evidence of what he is really up to, those who hastenly made that call has made some us here look like whimps who are afraid to compete and DEFEAT. Moreover, they unwittedly made that guy look important than I guess he/she is. That's TRAGIC.
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You have not yet responded to my last post. Unless you are satisfied with the views of the forumites as well as the decision taken by the webmaster.
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