quote:S.O.: Damasus is an unusual name. What part of the country are you from?
S.D.A.: I’m from Asaba, Delta State. Damasus was actually my grandfather’s first name. It’s a Greek name. The family name was actually Ojukwu, but when the war broke out, the Nigerian Civil War, a lot of Nigerian soldiers mistook my family for the real Ojukwu himself, so a lot of things happened to my family members until my grandfather came and said look, instead of them killing our people thinking we’re Biafrans, let’s just change our name, so we’re safe. That’s how the name became Damasus.
S.O.: And it has remained the same ever since?
S.D.A.: yeah.
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Damasus is Efulefu. If the family changed their name during the war, what happened after the war ended? Why didn't they change it back to Ojukwu?
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I believe that a man has the right to change his name for whatever reason and at any time he so wishes. As they say, self-preservation should be the first order of the day. This is a classy and fine actress who has defied all odds in Nigeria to become an enduring star. To boot, she is also married to a fine Yoruba gentleman, (ain' we all gentlemen?) if you know what i mean.
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As hordes of fine genocidal Yoruba murderers (FGYMs) chased the helpless Ojukwu family of Asaba, the poor family changed its name from Ojukwu to the meaningless "Damasus;" that was self preservation. Marrying one of the FGYMs, that is suicide.
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what is the difference between senior advocate and avocat superieur? It is time to find African equivalents for those foreign words. Let nobody deceive us any longer.
As regards changing name, it is another efulefu, who not only betrayed Biafra, but betrayed himself. He might not keep that name for a long time depending on what he does or what he intends to do.
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Quote: --------------------------- "Congrats on becoming an Avocat Supérieur. -----------------------------
Congrates indeed. With some very few exceptions, a careful review of Waypoints '1000 posts' will reveal that over 95% of them are nothing but DELETABLE mails with Hitler era words in promotion of INTOLERANCE, HATE, BIGOTORY, LIES AND DIVISION. Anyone who is in doubt of what Nwa Aro is saying should just read Hitler's pre-war handbook called 'Mein Kampf' to agree with me.
Just like Sylva, I am beginning to think that this Waypoint of a guy is like some unrully self-appointed 'Biafrans' on this board neither Igbo, African nor black.
I hope the FRANK OBSERVATION I made above will not be interpreted by some lazy folks as "pulling down a comrade".
All, The guy who changed his name is not alone in this JOIN THE WINING SIDE trade. Some 'Ibos' from western and some eastern parts of Nigeria still deny their Igboness till date.
That one of such LOST SOULS ('Nwa Asaba') even came here to tell us (in our eyes) that we are no more IGBOS but 'Ibo' and was saluted by some of you shows that some of you who condemn this 'Damascus' of a guy are simply not being honest to your selves. Apart from Nwa Aro and some few members on this board who stood up to correct that fellow, which of you who now want to hang this 'Damascus' whom you dont even know were bold enough to challenge the said fellow? Rather, instead of rebuking him ('Nwa Asaba') as you now do with this 'Damascus' fellow, what most of you did was to either agree with or kept silent (because 'Nwa Asaba' as I now know was serving the interest of some of you). Even the loose-canon called Waypoint went as far as telling us that "Igbo and Ibo are the same". Wonders shall never end! What all this and others like it tells eagle-eyed, BORN and BREED Igbos like me is that you guys are no different from the 'Damascus' you condemn.
If I may ask: what is the difference between an Igbo who denies his/her Igboness from a supposed African/black like some of you (as you claim you are) whose every word on this board (and maybe your acts elsewhere) have been in denial of your language, race and place of origin? If one should call a spade by its name, I wont hestitate to say that MOST OF YOU WHO MAKE THE LOUDEST NOISE ON THIS BOARD ABOUT IGBO/BIFRA ARE FAKES; and it is becoming clearer as the days wear out.
Try as much as you guys can to run away from yourselves, be sure that I will always be around to tell you guys the four-letter word you often refuse to tell yourselves - the TRUTH.
Meanwhile, continue with your games...
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Did you see anything wrong with my post? You can point it out, if you want.
quote:Originally posted by Nwa Aro: Just like Sylva, I am beginning to think that this Waypoint--------
I was not thinking of waypoint, but of those who invented "Senior Advocate" and Avocat Superieur". In fact they mean exactly the same thing, the only difference is that while the former is English, the later is French.
So, after submitting W posts, we gain the title "Senior Advocate", then after submitting X posts(X greater than W), we become "Avocat superieur", which is exactly the same thing. Does anyone know the equivalent of these words in Italian and German, so that we might extend the titles to Y and Z(Z greater than Y greater than X greater than W)? That's all I was saying.
I propose we think of the equivalent or similar expresions in Nigerian/African languages.
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Ednut, Adisa: If I say the five-letter word, the TRUTH, will it do for you guys.
Again, what Nwa Aro said above which those I called BY NAME cannot challenge or deny is the four-letter TRUE word.
To start with, let those who claim to be more Igbo/Biafran than the Nwa Aros tell us WHERE THEY COME FROM in Igboland and how many times they have been there in last five or ten years. For it is easy for A NOBODY to buy a computer and join the Internet and use same to run his/her mouth in a free forum like BNW. Infact, from the little I know of those I was fortunate (now unfortunate) to know, most of them (where they are Igbo) are RIFF-RAFFS who cannot summon a village meeting in their respective villages, talkless of liberating the entire Igbo nation.
Again, let the NOISE-MAKING continue unabatted.
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quote:"Senior Advocate" and Avocat Superieur". In fact they mean exactly the same thing, the only difference is that while the former is English, the later is French.
Sylva:
You are dead wrong. Such error on your part shows that though you may live in france, you have failed to learn the nuances of proper French grammar.
As one who has spoken and written the French Language most of my life, I will be back with some French 101 for you, before you extend your confusions to the word "Supreme," as in Supreme Advocate.
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Make una leave this fine Ahabian damsel alone. She is living her life as she sees fit and quite graciously, I dare say.
I have often heard wise folks say that if you ask a person what they wanted to be when they grow old and compared that to what they later became, in between you would find out a lot about them. None of us knows the true story of this woman, the choice she has had to make to survive except the short interview she just gave. All of sudden, Damasus life and how fit she lives it or not has become the background for all kinds of philosophies and tantrums. I cannot stand by and watch a "ada" of ours get disparaged by people who have no business commenting on her.
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It isn’t really about her. She didn’t change the name as I get from the interview (although she picked her husband who maybe married to her b/c of her fame as some part of nigeria is wont to do) but since the fame came to her, it is up to her to tell her family that they need to correct that BAD JUDGEMENT. I wonder what she meant when she said that the nigerians were mistaken them for Biafrans.
Don't waste your time educating Sylva. I have since come to the conclusion that Sylva just throws challenges about without first preparing himself to defend that which he asserts. When you expose the error in his assertions, he changes the issue. It is a circuitous silly-play that no serious person has time for.
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My post above did not say that I live in France. Without going into detail, there is only the eqivalent of senior advocate in French and "supreme" does not mean "superieur".
[quote=Odester Nchege]As one who has spoken and written the French Language most of my life, I will be back ------[/QUOTE]
I will not congratulate you for haven spoken and written French most of your life, but I will surely do so if you know written and spoken Igbo as much. The former will not impress anybody neither.
Odester Nchege & Ezeka Onu,
I suppose that "Avocat Superieur" has no equivalence in English, otherwise French wouldn't have been used or maybe just to impress or confuse people since they did not write and speak French all their lives like you. I am sure that many people here would like, at least to know the meaning of the titles attributed to them, their origin, etc.
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quote:She didn’t change the name as I get from the interview ( although she picked her husband who maybe married to her b/c of her fame as some part of nigeria is wont to do ) ...Ednut
Ednut, I quite disagree with you here, you know; although you were circumspect by inserting the word "maybe" in your assertion, i will not let you off easily. The lady is married to an Aboderin, a guy who made his mark in Entertainment before her likes became popular. Aboderin family is also a good pedigree from the Yoruba speaking part of Nigeria. Moreover going by the interview, it does seem to me that they met before fame came her way. She definitely has the guy to thank for the nurturing and exposure.
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quote: I suppose that "Avocat Superieur" has no equivalence in English, otherwise French wouldn't have been used or maybe just to impress or confuse people since they did not write and speak French all their lives like you. I am sure that many people here would like, at least to know the meaning of the titles attributed to them, their origin, etc.
Sylva:
Odester has not given you the promised education. Yet, you have already begun to dissemble. What kind of nonsense are you talking about? French is a major Language spoken in Africa. This board has a forum entitled, “Parlez-vouz Biafranese?” Was that name also chosen because there is no equivalent in the English Language for that basic French expression Parlez-vouz Biafranese? ? What next? Will you be demanding the English or French translation of the term "Biafranese," since it is not a proper English or French term?
Why are you sitting around waiting to be impressed by others, whether it be in French or in English? And, since you consider yourself to be Mr. diehard Pan Africanist, why don’t you get off your lazy linguistic touché and supply the so-called African Language names and equivalents for these forums and rankings, or shut your lazy mouth?
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quote: All, The guy who changed his name is not alone in this JOIN THE WINING SIDE trade. Some 'Ibos' from western and some eastern parts of Nigeria still deny their Igboness till date.
That one of such LOST SOULS ('Nwa Asaba') even came here to tell us (in our eyes) that we are no more IGBOS but 'Ibo' and was saluted by some of you shows that some of you who condemn this 'Damascus' of a guy are simply not being honest to your selves. Apart from Nwa Aro and some few members on this board who stood up to correct that fellow, which of you who now want to hang this 'Damascus' whom you dont even know were bold enough to challenge the said fellow? Rather, instead of rebuking him ('Nwa Asaba') as you now do with this 'Damascus' fellow, what most of you did was to either agree with or kept silent (because 'Nwa Asaba' as I now know was serving the interest of some of you). Even the loose-canon called Waypoint went as far as telling us that "Igbo and Ibo are the same". Wonders shall never end! What all this and others like it tells eagle-eyed, BORN and BREED Igbos like me is that you guys are no different from the 'Damascus' you condemn. - by bastard portuguese(Aro)
Nwa Aro iti bolibo:
It is a an irrational swine like you that take out a one way ticket to a place where they will be eaten. Why don't you pick on one of your fellow internet imbeciles?
while i recognise your right to cry for help and tell stupid stories to suit your demented fancy, I find it repulsive that you a wretched Aro, son of a slave dealer should throw insults at me.
Like I told you in my maiden post as Nwa Asaba, you are the least qualified to question or categorise my Iboness. The Ibos do NOT sell their own kin for money so your Aro folks may not be Ibo at all for all you care.
I have never visited the section you mentioned above and I comment only only on what I know. As much as I concerned this forum is for BiafraNigerians, and in BiafraNigeria we have Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba,etc. They are more important than new colonial languages. If am a diehard Pan Africanist, then you are a diehard sabo and sellout, who prefer all that is foreign.
quote:Originally posted by Ezeka Onu: What next? Will you be demanding the English or French translation of the term "Biafranese," since it is not a proper English or French term?
Of course those who are bent down selling and destroying anything African are at work. But you should keep quiet when others comment on them. And when you use those borrowed expressions, translate them for most people who might not understand.
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quote:Originally posted by Nwa Asaba: Like I told you in my maiden post as Nwa Asaba, you are the least qualified to question or categorise my Iboness. The Ibos do ....
Apart from this Damascus man, the name of that great nation on the South Eastern part of BiafraNigeria is Igbo and the inhabitants are also called the Igbo, the later does not take an 's' in plural form. The Brits have decide to use "Ibo" instead of "Igbo" for their convenience, but the Brits are no Igbo.
About two years ago, I read an article in which someone proclaimed that Asaba was not part of Igbo but Anioma. I hope that he was speaking for himself because many Asaba I know do not share that view. Nwa Asaba has just confirmed that he is Igbo. It is time we tackle those few sabo, sellouts and efulefu.
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quote:I have never visited the section you mentioned above and I comment only only on what I know. As much as I concerned this forum is for BiafraNigerians, and in BiafraNigeria we have Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba,etc.
Evidently, you are confused, again, and you know far less than you give yourself credit for. If you are too lazy to browse the board and get a sense of how it was created, for whom it was created, and what languages they speak, why don't you do yourself a favor and stop putting your ignorance on display? Besides, I have not seen it written anywhere that BNW is for BiafraNigerians only. Even so, BiafraNigerians first of all speak English, Pidgin, French, Creole, before any of those other languages that you are fussing about. And, when the genocidaire in Nigeria chased Biafran children into exile, it was to the Francophone Cameroon, Gabon, Cote d'Ivoire that they fled, not to Yorubaland, Hausaland, etc.
quote:If am a diehard Pan Africanist, then you are a diehard sabo and sellout, who prefer all that is foreign. --- Sylva
NO! you are NOT a Pan Africanist; you are just a confused African angry as all hell with France, Europe, and the whiteman, even though you lack the ability to elaqueate youself from the misery of your exile. Your lashing out at other Africans on this board, that is not Pan Africanism, that is a sign of Diaspora dementia, a maladjustment ailment afflicting those who refuse to respect and recognize the civilizations of the countries in which they are exiled.
I did not create BNW and I did not make the decisions about the names of the forums or the titles for its participants. But, it is only a dumb ass, like you, who would strut around heeing and hawing, like a dejected bitch, about doing things in African languages, when you are incapable of doing those things yourself. Please, show us which forums you have created using exclusively those Yoruba, Hausa, and Igbo Languages that you claim to love so much. Or did the stench of your obvious ignorance drive you and the rest of your patrons away from such forums once you created them?
quote:Of course those who are bent down selling and destroying anything African are at work. But you should keep quiet when others comment on them. And when you use those borrowed expressions, translate them for most people who might not understand. --- Sylva
There is a way that you can help. You can time your outbursts on this board to coincide with your moments of coherence, i.e. away from your episodes. Then, it will be possible for you to write with focus and clarity.
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Quote: --------------------------- I told you in my maiden post as Nwa Asaba, you are the least qualified to question or categorise my Iboness. The Ibos do NOT sell their own kin for money so your Aro folks may not be Ibo at all for all you care.---'Nwa Asaba' -----------------------------
LOST SOUL: Bad start. Imagine a man who want to tell an Aroman his "crime" quoting a book written by a westerner as a reference. Very soon you will also refere Nwa Aro to read a book written by a Brit or other Westerners so as to also give credence to your claim that Igbo is "Ibo" (as the whiteman want us believe). A clear sign of a man in search of himself. As a PROUD Aro and Igbo, I dont need to read any book written by a foreigner (Nigerian or western) to know who I am or who the GREAT Aros are.
For the records, Nwa Aro has NEVER questioned your "Iboness" (whatever that means). What I did and will continue to question is YOUR IGBONNESS. Moreso, when you want to misled someone like Nwa Aro who hails from the GREAT AROCHUKWU KINGDOM, which every Igbo historian will tell you is after Nri )in present Anambra State) is THE CRADLE OF THE IGBO NATION as we know it today. You ever wonder why the world refer (Igbos who know their history will tell you more) to the Aros as 'ARO OKEIGBO' (meaning 'Aros the greater Igbos' in english)
I challenge you again as I did in 2002 to start a thread on Aros and the slave trade. However, before you start the much-awaited thread, maybe it will be a good start to let you know that apart from a person from Nri, only an Aroman is allowed by IGBO CUSTOM and rites to be the first to collect kolanut whenever Igbos from other parts from Igboland are assembled in Igboland.
It will also interest you ro know that the main reason K.O Mbadiwe (a great Aro/Igbo son) never recognised the so-called Zik of Africa as an Igbo leader is because the latter made the mistake (which he later apologized) of allowing another Igbo dignitary to first collect Kolanut at an occassion in Aba to mark Nigeria's independence where mostly Igbos from other parts of Igboland were in attendance. K.O Mbadiwe's grudge (rightly so) was Zik wouldn't have alllowed another Igbo to be the first to collect kolanut, whereas an Aroman (K. O. Mbadiwe) was present at the said occassion. History has it that that it was thereafter that K. O. Mbadiwe tolk Zik in his now famous quote that, "abumu agada gbachiri uzo". Meaning that he (K. O Mbadiwe as an Aroman) was the key Zik (or any Igbo for that matter) MUST use to open the door to Igbo people/land. Thus, if there's any crime you can really accuse the Aros it is that WE ARE A VERY UNABASHLY PROUD PEOPLE! The rest they say is history. I stop so far before those looking for something to say accuse Nwa Aro of preaching "Aro supremacy."
To be honest, when I read the sort of misinformation I read sometimes on this board, I cant help that conclude that the Internet has really helped some of you guys who cannot trace your villages/towns of origin have a room to make your usually MISLEADING and MISINFORMED comments. Anyway, not much can be expected from people who from the look of things must have bought the "one way ticket" you talked of. But be sure that Nwa Aro will always be around to remind LOST SOULS like you what the Igbos call OME-NANA.
Finally, please dont fail to take this opportunity to tell the world all YOU (not what one slave-master wrote) know about the slave trade and the Aro (I mean only Aro) culpability. Until then, I say it without any fear of contradiction or apology to you or anyone that NWA ARO IS BOTH THEORETICALLY AND PRACTICALLY AN ACCOMPLISHED AROMAN AND A PROUD IGBOMAN TO THE CORE. As such, Nwa Aro has NOTHING to do with an 'Ibo' FRAUDlike you, nor with people who are afraid to PUBLICLY tell the world where they come from so we can figure out where they want to lead the discerning Igbo people to. We cannot be taken for a ride in Nigeria and come to the west where people are INDEPENDENT and have CHOICE to be BLIND-FOLDED. Now go figure!
N/B: if you fail to take this challenge and start another thread on the slave issue, then know it that you will never get a response from me on this issue again. The ball is now in your court once again.
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