You are up to something in your new project. The great Biafrans Chukwuma Nzeogwu and Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu are among the reasons many of us wear our Igbo heritage with great pride. Would you send contact info about joining the effort by PM.
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“Nigerians” ever sought to vent out their inferiority complex towards Biafrans and Igbos, as they seek to remain in perpetual denial of a malaise, the luxury of whose ignorance, they can no longer afford. Toward the perpetuation of this vacuous, shallow, and impotent denial, Afroeuro has settled upon the worn out strategy of attacking Biafra from an intellectually unaccountable vantage point?...Ukaobasi.
AfroEuro: How does it feel.....to be on your own.... a complete incoherent areaboy hack. It can be cold out here boy. Deal with it.
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Nzeogwu remains A HERO whether Afro agrees or not because he stood for what is right, and that is getting rid of the bad eggs. Damn if I was him I would have organised total annihilation of every Northerner living in the East. Whether he lost Nsukka or not is no issue the fact is that he relentlessly fought to defend us against unnecessary attacks from the half human Northern Muslim fundamentalists and their Middlebelt / Yoruba slaves led by the illegitimate bloodthirsty government of Yakubu Gowon. That is a fact every Biafran sane/insane must continue to shove down your throat until you choke to death. Ojukwu, Effiong, Nzeogwu, Madiebo, Ironsi, will remain till eternity Bona fide Freedom Fighting Heroes and nothing can change that. No amount of Bible quoting, twisting, and German language lessons can change the history of Biafranigeria and the conviction that Igbos and Biafrans irrespective of etnicity or status do not belong in Nigeria and will never progress in that damned trap.
Biafrans deserve no apology for defending their homeland because we've never asked for one and will never. The day that we start asking for apology, compromise and acceptance from our oppressors is the last time I will call myself Igbo or Biafran. I'd rather slit my throat than feel any guilt for caring for myslef and knowing that I deserve more than second class status on Earth.
Damn u afroeuro for suggesting we the Great Biafrans bend backwards and compromise our future. Damn u.
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Ednut & Co: After writing my opinion on Nzeogwu's vision, mission, heroism and how it all came to naught because of Ifeajuna and co's "incompetence" as Nzeogwu described it, I decided to dig into my archives to reproduce this interview which Nzeogwu gave after he was released from jail by Aguiyi Ironsi's short-lived government.
Reading through the interview we can see that Nzeogwu's coup was IN CONCEPTION not "tribalistic" as some mischievious Nigerians want the world believe.
Hear Nzeogwu in his own words, " In the North, no. In the South, yes. We were five in number, and initially we knew quite clearly what we wanted to do. We had a short list of people who were either undesirable for the future progress of the country or who by their positions at the time had to be sacrificed for peace and stability. Tribal considerations were completely out of our minds at this stage. But we had a set-back in the execution. Both of us in the North (himself and Major T. C. Onwuatuegwu) did our best. But the other three who were stationed in the South failed because of incompetence and misguided considerations in the eleventh hour."
Nzeogwu on his dream Nigeria, mission, betrayal, etc:
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Nigeria-Biafra Civil War
Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu
Interview with Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu
Reference: Crisis and Conflict in Nigeria, January 1966 - July 1967. A. H. M. Kirk-Greene. Oxford Univeristy Press, 1971
Ejindu (a Journalist): I am glad to meet you, Sir. How would you feel if you knew that you are being regarded as a hero?
Nzeogwu: Very pleased naturally. But the truth is that I am not a hero. If there was any famous Major Nzeogwu, I have never heard of him....
Ejindu: It is rumoured that you have just finished writing a book, what is it like?
Nzeogwu: Good gracious! Ninety-nine per cent of all the stories you hear in this country are false. I have not written any book because there was nothing to write about. You can only write about a finished job. It would have been a useful means of warding off boredom though, but one did not do it for the fear that the authorities might seize the papers. However I had enough time to make detailed notes on what happened, and one might use them if in future there was any need to write something.
Ejindu: Before you went into prison, the cloud was so clear above this country that one could see very far into the future. Now that you are out, what do you see ?
Nzeogwu: A job very badly done. If I may borrow your metaphor, the atmosphere is admittedly somewhat cloudy. But I don't think there will be rain. Indeed if you look steadily up you will find that the sun is not yet set and might still peep through. The trouble is that people generally can't tell which is a rain cloud and which is not, and as a result they tend to be confused. As you know there is too much bitterness at present in the country, and in the past people had imagined that they could conveniently do without one another. But the bitterness will clear in the end and they will find that they are not as self-reliant as they had thought. And they will long to be together.... The .same applies to the Northerners. It may take ten or fifteen years for them to come together again but there is no doubt, as far as I can see, that they will. You see, in this world of imperfection, it is sometimes very difficult to capture the ideal. But we can, at Ieast start with the second best.
Ejindu: What is the second best?
Nzeogwu: A Confederation.
Ejindu: Before I come back to that, may 1 take you back to January, 1966. What exactly happened at Nassarawa (the premier's residence at Kaduna) on the night of the 14th?
Nzeogwu: No, no, no; don't ask me anything about that, I don't want to remember it.
Ejindu: All right. A lot has been talked and written about the January coup. But how tribalistic was it really in conception and execution?
Nzeogwu: In the North, no. In the South, yes. We were five in number, and initially we knew quite clearly what we wanted to do. We had a short list of people who were either undesirable for the future progress of the country or who by their positions at the time had to be sacrificed for peace and stability. Tribal considerations were completely out of our minds at this stage. But we had a set-back in the execution. Both of us in the North (himself and Major T. C. Onwuatuegwu) did our best. But the other three who were stationed in the South failed because of incompetence and misguided considerations in the eleventh hour. The most senior among them (possibly Major Emmanuel Ifeajuna) was in charge of a whole brigade and had all the excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it badly. In Lagos, even allowing for one or two genuine mistakes, the job was badly done. The Mid-West was never a big problem. But in the East, our major target, nothing practically was done. He and the others let us down.
Ejindu: You must have anticipated that Gen. Ironsi would let you down in the end. Why did you surrender to him the way you did?
Nzeogwu: I was being sensible. The last thing we desired was unnecessary waste of life. If I had stuck to my guns there would have been a civil war, and as the official head of the Army, he would have split the loyalty of my men. Again, you must remember that the British and other foreigners were standing by to help him. Our purpose was to change our country and make it a place we could be proud to call our home, not to wage war.
Ejindu: It has been said that Gen. Ironsi set out to complete your job for you. Was there anything you did not like in his administration ?
Nzeogwu: Yes, everything. First he chose the wrong advisers for the work he halfheartedly set out to do. Most of them were either mediocre or absolutely unintelligent. Secondly, he was tribalistic in the appointment of his governors. Thirdly the Decree 34 (which nullified the federal constitution and established a unitary government) was unnecessary, even silly. In fact . . .
Ejindu: But you wanted a unitary government ?
Nzeogwu: No. Not a unitary government as such. We wanted to see a strong centre. We wanted to cut the country to small pieces, making the centre inevitably strong. We did not want to toy with power, which was what he did.
Ejindu: Tell me, what do you think of him as a soldier?
Nzeogwu: I am afraid I cannot tell you that. But I will say that as a person he was very well liked and as the Supreme Commander, his orders were promptly carried out.
Ejindu: If he joined the Army as a gunner, he must have progressed as a military strategist ?
Nzeogwu: Yes, if he had, he could have done so. But he actually joined the Army as a tally-clerk and was a clerk most of the time.
Ejindu: From the present chaos, what type of Nigeria do you envisage?
Nzeogwu: In the first place, secession will be ill-advised, indeed impossible. Even if the East fights a war of secession and wins, it still cannot secede. Personally, I don't like secession and if this country disintegrates, I shall pack up my things and go. In the present circumstances, confederation is the best answer as a temporary measure. In time, we shall have complete unity. Give this country a confederation and, believe me, in ten or fifteen years the young men will find it intolerable, and will get together to change it. And it is obvious we shall get a confederation or something near it. Nothing will stop that.
Ejindu: Do you think there will be any war?
Nzeogwu: No. Nobody wants to fight. The East which is best equipped and best prepared for war, does not want to attack anybody. The North cannot fight. And Lagos cannot fight now. If they had attacked the East in August or September, they would have had a walk-over. Today, I think they will be ill-advised to try.
Ejindu: An Englishman said to me the other day that the best thing Ojukwu can do is to take over Lagos. Do you think he can do it even if he wanted to?
Nzeogwu: Yes, I think the East is strong enough to do it if they want to. But it will serve no useful purpose. It can only serve to destroy life and property. You see, the effective power does not lie in Lagos but in Kaduna, and if you remove Gowon somebody else will take his place. If you capture the South against the North, all you can achieve is civil war, disintegration and border clan. -----------------------------------------------
In my next mail I will also put to rest the notion that Zik was privy to Nzeogwu's coup or "supported it" (thereby making it an "Igbo coup") as the Afro Euros want us beleive.
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AfroEuro & co: If the 1966 coup was an "Igbo coup" as you and other mischief makers want us believe, how come neither Zik (the highest ranking Igbo politician at the time) nor Aguiyi-Ironsi (the highest ranking Igbo military officer at the time) were unaware of Nzeogwu's adventure? How come it took an Igbo (General Aguiyi Ironsi) to stop an 'Igbo coup'? It is even more ridiculous to read how one ignorant forumite came here sometime ago to tell us that Zik knew forehand of Nzeogwu's coup and that they (Nzeogwu and co) had what the fellow decribed as "secret meetings" where the so-called Igbo coup was discussed.
Zik the spoiler speaking from London:
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Nigeria-Biafra Civil War
Nnamdi Azikiwe Condemns Military Coup
AZIKIWE CONDEMN'S NZEOGWU'S COUP
(Press Release, January 16, 1966. England)
Violence has never been an instrument used by us, as founding fathers of the Nigerian Republic, to solve political problems. In the British tradition, we talked the Colonial Office into accepting our challenges for the demerits and merits of our case for self-government.
After six constitutional conferences in 1953, 1954, 1957, 1958, 1959, and 1960, Great Britain conceded to us the right to assert our political independence as from October 1, 1960. None of the Nigerian political parties ever adopted violent means to gain our political freedom and we are happy to claim that not a drop of British or Nigerian blood was shed in course of our national struggle for the place in the sun. This historical fact enabled me to state publicly in Nigeria that Her Majesty's Government has presented self-government to us on a platter of gold. Of course, my contemporaries scorned at me, but the facts of history are irrefutable. I consider it most unfortunate that our 'Young Turks' decided to introduce the element of violent revolution into Nigerian politics. No matter how they and our general public might have been provoked by obstinate and perhaps grasping politicians, it is an unwise policy. I have contacted General Aguiyi-Ironsi, General Officer Commanding the Nigerian Armed Forces, who I understand, has now assumed the reins of the Federal Government. I offered my services for any peace overtures to stop further bloodshed, to placate the mutinous officers, and to restore law and order. As soon as I hear from him, I shall make arrangements to return home. As far as I am concerned, I regard the killings of our political and military leaders as a national calamity. ----------------------------
AfroEuro, education is when you know WHO YOU ARE and WHERE YOU COMING FROM. Unfortunately, from the look of things, it seems you are one those Africans whom the whiteman gave what they consider 'education' but in the process took away their brains, minds and pride. In any case, you are not alone, most so-called educated Africans suffer from same complex; a sign of what Wole Soyinka called a 'LOST GENERATION'.
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Wie kommst Du darauf zu behaupten, ich sei ein Afrikaner? Du kennst mich doch gar nicht.
Schon zum zweiten Male schreibst Du Sachen über mich in dieses Forum, die Du gar nicht wissen kannst. Konzentriere Dich auf die Themen im Forum, und nicht auf die Pseudonyme.
Ich gebe Dir dennoch das letzte Mal den sog. "benefit of doubt". Hör also bitte auf fadenscheinige Behauptungen über mich aufzustellen die Du nicht wissen kannst.
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For your sake and your learning I will repeat the historical facts about Nzeogwu so that hopefully you will understand.
1) Nzeogwu failed as a human being. With the barbaric murderous killings of hausa and yoruba soldiers and politicians AND THEIR WIVES Nzeogwu has forfeited his right to live. Nzeogwu, on that dark day of January 1966, did not only kill soldiers and politicians, but also the wives of these politicans and soldiers IN FRONT OF THEIR LITTLE CHILDREN. Today these children are grown up. Check out one of themhere. ----> Nzeogwu failed as a human being by committing inhuman acts of violence.
2) Nzeogwu's coup attempt failed. The killer-team which was sent to the East of doom-bound Nigeria did not kill those they were supposed to kill (for reasons best known to them), whereas the killer-team sent to the the north of doom-bound Nigeria successfully and barbarously butchered the princes and leaders of hausa-land and yoruba-land. This, and only this, gave the coup the impression of being an ibo-coup. ----> Nzeogwu and his fellow coup-plotters failed.
3) Ironsi, an ibo-man, was not part of the coup plotters, yet on that fateful day of January 1966 Ironsi suddenly appeared on the scene and took charge over doom-bound Nigeria. This strengthened the belief that the coup was an ibo thing. ----> Nzeogwu and his fellow coup-plotters failed.
4) Nzeogwu was allowed to be part in the self-proclaimed Biafran army. He was given the assignment to protect the northern border of Biafra in Nsukka. He was not able to secure the Nsukka border and was consequently shot to pieces by Nigerian soldiers on the 29th of July, 1967 at Obollo-Eke in Nsukka Province . ----> Nzeogwu failed again.
If you have any military experience and military knowledge, you will know the importance of protecting a nations' border. Military commanders from all nations do not take it lightly when their captains fail in protecting the borders.
5) Nzeogwu and his fellow coup plotters where not put on trial by Ironsi after the failed coup attempt of January 1966. This again hardened the belief that the coup was an ibo thing. ----> Nzeogwu and his fellow coup plotters failed, because according to their own testimonies they wanted the coup to be a nigerian operation and not a tribal thing
How can anybody say that Nzeogwu was anything less than a failure in his life? He has destabilized doom-bound Nigeria with his ill-planned coup d'état and thus ushered in the worst pogroms against ibo-people. Nzeogwu failed to protect the important border in Nsukka. Nzeogwu failed to remain a human-being by killing innocent women in front of their little children.
Senior Advocate #149 Hear the word of the LORD: "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20)
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I think it is extremely rude for you to address people as #XXX. Like others, when I registered on this board, I was asked to select a name. That is the name that each member must use to refer to another member. I don't think anyone knew their "Advocate #." Using #XXX makes you look like a Nazi or fascists who did not want to identify their victims by name.
The webmaster should do something about that.
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Trying to engage in a constructive and intellectually adventrous conversation or issues so unclassy for AfroEuro has been juvenile. He will always have the last say. How silly?
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Quote: -------------------------- Wie kommst Du darauf zu behaupten, ich sei ein Afrikaner?---AfroEuro. -------------------------
All, For the benefit of those who do not speak/understand the German language, what the AfroEuro guy we have been wasting our precious time all along is telling us in the above quotation is that HE IS NOT AFRICAN. Now I understand why this fellow has been beating the bush all along and diverting our attention from THE ISSUES.
AfroEuro: With this CONFESSION (good that it came sooner than later,) you have naturally lost your right to discuss African/Nigerian/Igbo/Biafran-related issues with us. You can also go ahead to mispell IGBO as 'Ibo' a million times if you want. For your information, I have fought neo-Nazis like you on the streets of Germany ever since I came to this country, hence, one luxury I cannot afford is to waste my precious time engaging someone who is yet to grasp it that colonization and slavery are NOT things of the 21st century. That much Bush and co are finally realizing in Iraq.
Since it has become clear that your reason for quoting (invoking) the Bible, deliberately mispelling IGBO as 'Ibo,' and distorting Nigerian history all this while was/is a grand plan to re-colonize the Nwa Aros, I advice you look for clients elswhere. Because I'm sure that most people on this board know WHO THEY ARE and WHERE THEY CAME FROM and thus do not want to be brainwashed by a neo-Colonist/neo-Nazi disguising as 'Afro' whatever
You should have taken time to ask your English friends, because if you did/do, they will tell you how impossible it was for their forefathers to bring the 'stubborn Ibo people' into their direct rule, talkless of colonizing them as they did other Nigerian tribes.
Final word, IGBOS ARE NOT JUST YOUR TYPICAL STEREOTYPE OF "CRUDE" AFRICANS; WE ARE AS INTELLIGENT AND WISE AS ANYONE FROM ANY RACE COULD BE, AND THAT INCLUDES YOU WHITE EUROPEANS. Please spread this message to your fellow white supremacists. Thanks in advance.
Servus! (goodbye) to you too.
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Mazi/Nwa Mazi, NwaAro, Thanks so much for your previous compliments my able brother.
It appears we have one of those disoriented mulattos on our hands. Children of myriad mixed African and light skin races, some berbers, some Tuaregs, some lebanese, some Indian/Pakistani and some roughneck whites, all of whom happily like to be called “half castes” and or collectively “Oyinbo” in the local parlance.
Afroeuro is suffering psychological pain induced by cold hearted racist rejection from his non-African kith and kin. His optimistic efforts over the years to prove to them that he is one of them has at best been met with such patronizing conservative toleration as to have left him permanently scarred by self loathing.
He would have liked to associate himself with that aspect of himself (the African part) that made him feel whole as a person (even superior), but his ties to it are made more tenuous by the fact that schizophernic self loathing of his Black “Nigerianess” is being validated by the way “Nigerians” are running the place into a rotting, decaying, pre-stone age pigstye.
With unadulterated shame of the Blackness in him (given the implied inferiority), the pain of rejection by his kin in whose “master-race” he would badly have liked to belong, coupled with the residue Igbophobia passed on by his “Nigerian” parent from youth, Afroeuro then finds convenient succor in manipulating the words of the Bible much like a lot of the white scoundrels used to pacify the Aztecs and Incas and native Amerindian tribes before they leveled their population with small pox (a disease for which they had no immunity), and finished off the defiant ones with modern weaponry whose technology they had copied and modified from China and evolved in a parallel direction over a couple of centuries for the purpose of mass murder (Remember; Thou shalt not kill!), before taking over their land and rendering the natives servile.
In that characteristic conscienceless manipulation of the bible to render cheap propaganda into unchallengeable absolutism, and blinded by malicious Igbophobia, Afroeuro predictably chooses to single out for attack those age old symbolic Biafran icons whose demonization by his Nigerian parent is so strectched out and complete in its irrationality as to remain permanently irreconcilable in its various credibility gaps.
We are therefore dealing with a handle, the owner of whose psychological disorientation poses sufficient challenge to himself to warrant nothing but our unalloyed pity. We shall therefore sing him the half caste blues. Pity not withstanding, though, no Biafran will stand idly by at reckless propaganda, no matter if spouted by an Igbophobic paranoid schizophernic.
EVIDENCE OF DELIBERATE(CONVENIENT) SCHIZOPHERNIA
Below is an example of the schizophernia at work:
quote:Originally posted by Afroeuro: Hear the word of the LORD: "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20)
That last part being an oblique reference to a comment in my earlier response that Afroeuro’s English still renders him confounded by.
quote: Originally posted by Afroeuro: Nzeogwu was a blood thirsty murderous man who shed innocent blood. His ambitious greed and lust for money and power sent him to an early grave.
He was a two-time military failure who shed innocent blood
The following characteristics therefore reflect Afroeuros desired approach
1.)Twisting of the bible (already addressed in its intended impact)
2.)Twisting of the issues to suit a malevolent intent:
Did Nzeogwu commit murder and what were the gory details is not being discussed.
Was Nzeogwus actions successful or was he a failure is not being discussed.
What has been at critical issue in the thread remains: The futility of the focus upon individual actions (in this case that of Nzeogwu by Gidado Idris, interpretable from various points of view), by a supposed “Nigerian” elder, passing inciteful comments without a requisite acknowledgement of the concurrent prescence of the conditions that make a re-ocurrence of that action possible, and without acknowledgement of condemnable complicity in the wickedness that bred such conditions from which the commenter (Gidado) continues to benefit. The empty moralizing by Gidado Idris, and the desire to play God by expressing his willingness or lack thereof to forgive Nzeogwu is what Biafrans yawn at. What Gidado thinks about Nzeogwu’s actions as stated before, are meaningless and useless to Igbo and Biafrans simply because Aremu has now inflicted upon the Gidados of this world, worse than Nzeogwu could have dealt them, though it might not appear so, and likewise, the Gidado Idrises have inflicted upon Igbos, Middlebelters, Yorubas, Binis, etc. Worse than Nzeogwu could have dealt them over a 30year period.
Should we then debate morality in place of actions symptomatic of a general malaise ?
The avoidance of that true thrust of this thread by Afroeuro, in preference to digress into a discussion of the morality of Nzeogwu’s actions, and the obvious immorality of murder, is a splendid example of selective schizophernia at work!
Blindness from realizing that success rather than “failure” in carrying out “barbaric murder” would not have made the act less moral, is a splendid example by Afroeuro of selective schizophernia at work!
Blindness from realizing that the killing of an equal number of Igbo officials in the East by the coupists, would not have made Igbos in “Nigeria” any safer (and as such meant that Igbos were as much automatic victims of an act in which had they at least been consulted, would have at least given them the ability to choose whether to live or to die) is a splendid demonstration by Afroeuro of selective schizophernia at work!
Blindness from realizing that success rather than “failure” in carrying out Nzeogwu’s Nsukka assignment would not have made the initial act less moral, is a splendid example by Afroeuro of selective schizophernia at work!
Blindness in the attack of any and all Igbo, in order to celebrate and justify with twisted logic and biblical reference the genocidal pogroms against 50-100 thousand men women, living children, unborn fetuses, and; deliberately heinous war crimes against 2 million men, women, living children, unborn fetuses, is a splendid demonstration by Afroeuro of selective schizophernic propaganda at work!
Morality in reviewing Nzeogwu’s actions in 1966, as an excuse therefore to link up by extension Igbos and other such Afroeuro favorite iconic Biafran Bogeymen, all in the drive to validate a malicious hate for Igbos, has as usual robbed Afroeuro of even the minutest appearance of credibility in staking a claim to the moral issue of the commission of murder as supportable by biblical reference. This obscuration of such a good topic of discussion (as could have been taken to another thread), and opportunity for the truly religious to disseminate a moral lesson with honest and good faith biblical validation is therefore lost again as a result of an avoidable gap in credibility.
To which end it is necessary to remind Afroeuro as usual, that the flag still flies and our icons remain intact:
NOW PICTURE THIS
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Think hard and get back to us again wont you. Dont forget that dictionary. ...and the bible.....With all the laws
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UKAOBASI It is technically impossible for you to make any statements about those in this forum concerning their nationality, gender, age, etc. except the forum users themselves reveal these information in their posts. However, AfroEuro hasn't revealed any of these by herself/himself/themselves. Why then the misplaced "psychological profile" about AE, and why do you lower yourself into abusing half-castes? You blame the Western countries and the nigerians for organizing a genocide against igbo people, saying that their behaviour is wrong. How about your own insults towards half-castes? Is that right? The posts which you and your fellow Biafran brothers have directed against half-castes place you in the same category of weak-minded people who judge other human beings on account of their skin-color and ethnic origin. Shame on you.
Ojukwu himself is a "half-caste creator" as he has children from white women. I personally know one of his half-caste sons. Ojukwu would rebuke you and your Biafran brothers for writing such rubbish against half-castes.
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UKAOBASI It is technically impossible for you to make any statements about those in this forum concerning their nationality, gender, age, etc. except the forum users themselves reveal these information in their posts. However, AfroEuro hasn't revealed any of these by him/her/themself/ves.
OtHnIeL,
Thank you for bringing that up. You are right when you say "technically impossible". Indeed, it is "technically impossible" for me to determine that Othniel, is Pidginboy, is Afroeuro/others.
REGARDING "TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBILITY"
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is half-caste mix of any of a combination of Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ibibio/Efik, etc.
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is half-caste mix of any of a combination of Biafranigerian and German, Dutch, Scandinavian etc, European.
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is any of the following: Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ibibio/Efik, etc.
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is any of the following Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Animist, Atheist etc.
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is Black or White.
It is technically impossible for me to determine that Othniel is an embittered Biafran, or an avowed "Nigerian" joker, a man, or a woman (Ill just refer as he for human).
I think you get the picture by now. Othniel therefore could come onto this BNW forum and attempt very laboriously to remain Nondescript. That is a "technical" advantage. Besides that, Othniel is not the individual harboring the opinions, but a mere handle. It follows therefore that Othniel could merely be one of many handles speaking the opinions of the selfsame individual he represents. Another "technical" advantage.
Behind the cover of these "technical" advantages however, Othniel could then mask his real intent on this forum to launch the most viscious, degrading, malignant, vile, vituperous, malicious, scurrillous, morally, ethically or intellectually indefensible attacks against Biafrans, Igbos, Blacks, Whites,"Nigerians", Men, Women, Children, Unborn Fetuses, Military, Civilians, Non Igbo pro Biafrans, Symbols of Biafra, Igbos, Igbos, Igbos, and Igbos, especially other handles and what they espouse and believe in, and yet expect to remain protected by "technical" advantage, even taunting forum members with an expectation of decorum and decent conduct on their part. All from that vaunted comfort of the percieved "technical" advantages.The strategy being to straightjacket those against whom undefensible railings are directed while remaining above reproach and accountability as he insultively demands intellectual, ethical, and moral accountability from others.
"TECHNICAL IMPOSSIBILITY"; A TWO WAY STREET
Well, Ukaobasi is a handle too. While it may be "technically" possible for you to determine that Ukaobasi is an avowed Biafran;
It is technically impossible for anyone to determine that Ukaobasi is a half-caste mix of any of a combination of Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ibibio/Efik, etc.
It is technically impossible for anyone to determine that Ukaobasi is a half-caste or Quater-caste (all in Lagosian parlance) mix of any of a combination of Biafranigerian and European, American Black, White or even Sioux/Navajo/Commanche.
It is technically impossible for you to determine that Ukaobasi is any of the following: Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ibibio/Efik, etc.
It is technically impossible for you to determine that Ukaobasi is any of the following Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Animist, Atheist etc.
It is technically impossible for you to determine that Ukaobasi is Black or White.
I think you get the picture by now. It is therefore technically impossible for you Othniel to determine that I am whom I claim to be, just because I say so, and to therefore assume the competency to conclude out of the context of Afroeuro's fingerprints on this forum that I Ukaobasi am "against half castes" (what could the term "half caste" really mean to Ukaobasi? this would have to be determined "technically" before arriving at such a conclusion). Being free to hold your opinions on that, I leave you to hold on tight to it.
quote:Why then the misplaced "psychological profile" about AE, and why do you lower yourself into abusing half-castes?
By "lower yourself" I hope you are not making the mistake of assigning stature or the lack thereof to mere handles on this board. This would be the first cowardly big mistake of those nondescript, multiple handles who may believe that assymetrical attack, especially against Biafrans or (Blacks as "savages"), is their monopoly.
quote:You blame the Western countries and the nigerians for organizing a genocide against igbo people, saying that their behaviour is wrong. How about your own insults towards half-castes? Is that right? The posts which you and your fellow Biafran brothers have directed against half-castes place you in the same category of weak-minded people who judge other human beings on account of their skin-color and ethnic origin. Shame on you.
In the item quoted above, you apparently seem to assume you've sunk your teeth into real meat. Like a mongrel, you may need to taste and see that you only happily have a mouthful of your own excrement. "You and your fellow Biafran brothers" huh?
quote: Ojukwu himself is a "half-caste creator" as he has children from white women. I personally know one of his half-caste sons. Ojukwu would rebuke you and your Biafran brothers for writing such rubbish against half-castes.
I'm glad you finally acknowledge Ojukwu to be an advocate and authority whose approval on issues of fairness is worthy of invoking, even when conveniently misapplied. As typically predictable of your kind.
Let the metamorphosis continue. The fingerprint remains the same.
___________________ YA CAIN'T KEEP A GOOD MAN DOWN :) Posts: 1182 | From: TEXAS | Registered: Oct 2001
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”I was in Enugu when the counter-coup started. I stopped the counter-coup in Enugu.” - Benjamin Adekunle.
quote:You said they almost got you?
Yes, they almost did during the coup, the first coup. My course mates, Ifeajuna, Amadi, Chikwuka, Adegoke …we were all course mates. So the coup happened. Then Ironsi came round to say he was going to change the future of Nigeria. My contemporaries were the leaders of the coup. Contemporaries that I attended Staff College with, officers that I did exams with, so I was being accused of being a stooge, that’s why I didn’t come out openly to say I was doing a coup with them. I told Ironsi, remember, we don’t agree. And if I’m taking part in the coup, I don’t think you’ll be alive. There and then, I was transferred to Enugu.
I was in Enugu when the counter-coup started. I stopped the counter-coup in Enugu.
How?
Ogunnigwe was the boss. I had to take over the command of the unit, physically taking it over, putting men, arms and ammunition on the field, saying if you want to fight, let’s fight each other. And they were made to stay on the field there for three days. If you want to eat, the food will be brought there. If you want to urinate, you urinate on the side. If you want to pooh pooh, they’ll take you to go and pooh pooh, then, you’ll come out and be searched. It wasn’t easy.
Having heard from the horse’s mouth so to say, shouldn’t those who all along maligned Nzeogwu by insisting that he spared Okpara and other Igbo leaders in the eastern region based on ethnic relationship come out to admit how wrong they were all along? Adekunle a Yoroba stopped the massacre from happening only to turn around to mow innocent civilians down. Na wa!
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Didn't you know the History of Black scopion. Remember that Gowon never really trusted Black scopion Benjamin Adekunle. Biafra never trusted him either. Obasanjo was a coward who came in, to take the glory of somebody else work. The Vandals never trusted Adekunle, because during the war Adekunle used to engage in a cat and mouse game to prove his bravery. Adekunle will capture a sector from Biafra, then few months later for Biafra will recapture it. Then the vandals will pour more troops to that sector a fight to finish will arise. The casualties on both side will mount.
Remember that when Owerri was capture by the vandals led by Adekunle, later they were cut off from their supply root. Remember planes used to drop supply to the vandals in owerri then, because they were cut off from all angle coming into owerri. So now Adekunle is now trying to repent because he is close to going to meet his creator.
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Adekunle is not repenting,together with all the Yoruba elite at that time knew the truth about the imbalance that existed as Nigeria. Which he poured out in that interview, however, the Yoruba went with economic gains over moral rectitude. There was two lines in the whole interview that spelled out why the Yoruba joined the Hausa/Fulani to wage that war of attrition against Ndiigbo and their neighbors. "There was no oil in the west, and no oil in the North, we have to invade the East to get the money to run the government" One can almost sense regret from his discuss, he was almost hesitant to describe his often ascribed war time heroism, dismissing some of it as mere hyperbole. These regrets were not common within the Yoruba in the years immediately after the war. Why are we now seeing more of some of the key Yoruba participants in Nigeria's infamy exhibiting remorse in an action collectively taken by them.
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