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Is tomorrow D-Day for Martial law in BiafraNigeria? Is the end of Obasanjo or even BiafraNigeria coming? Balarabe and the North roll out tomorrow. Obasanjo says he will crush the protest. The army can't be too far away.
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Which one you sef no dey? Na who go do mass action come cause Matial law for Naija? The people wey talk say dem go do mass action, fear no gree them comot for stadium. Abeg, make una join me dey drink champaign for Uncle Sege victory, O jare! E go better for Naija! Hahaha!
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Obasanjo has resorted to desperation tactics. He is accusing people of planning a coup and then he is arresting them. He may be biting off a little more than he can chew.
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quote:Why did he not declare a state of emergency in Kano?
This is the type of question we should be asking with tenacity instead of the stupid attempt to defend obasanjo who's lost or never had a sense of balance. This old unkempt fella panders to the hausa oligarchy so often thereby endangering their so-called democracy. If my understanding of the constitution is right, this arrant ruler cannot on a whim declare "State of Emergency" it has to go through a process (National Assembly) with certain stipulations in place.
Kano and all core northern enclaves are overdue for this emergency declaration. Food for thought I was told last night that obasanjo is a conflicted moslem he's between the two religions.
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FOLKS, This is the begining of the end. This guy is in serious violation of the so-called Nigeria constitution. If he decides to take the law into his hands, he must now declare state of emergency in Kano state immediately, and remove the state governor forthwith.
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What kind of Aba Market constitution quotation is this? Here is what you wrote,
quote:If my understanding of the constitution is right, this arrant ruler cannot on a whim declare "State of Emergency" it has to go through a process (National Assembly) with certain stipulations in place.
Don't you think you should quote the constitution chapter and verse? Could you tell us which part of the constitution you are talking about?
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Kunle, In your shoes, I would be more concerned about the erratic and increasingly crude behaviour of an ape president, not the trivia of how a useless constitution is quoted.
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What kind of Aba Market constitution quotation is this? Don't you think you should quote the constitution chapter and verse? Could you tell us which part of the constitution you are talking about?
The yoruba never get it and never will. Does my post deserve such ijebu noise? A request for the source would've been enough without quote above. In any case below is the ijebu verse of your toothless constitution. Are you still in coma why obasanjo with your help is destroying my land with the level of ignorance at work?
SECTION 305 of the CONSTITUTION:
"(1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when –
(a) the Federation is at war; (b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war; (c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security; (d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger; (e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation; (f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or (g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section. (4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State. (5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation."
Were the above stipulations met? If yes my next question, is kano, kaduna, nassarawa etc. exempt? I didn't read in the constitution where core northern states were excluded from your "Emergency Declaration."
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quote:If my understanding of the constitution is right, this arrant ruler cannot on a whim declare "State of Emergency" it has to go through a process (National Assembly) with certain stipulations in place.
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The portion of the legal document has has been posted. Who is in violation of the Constitution? If not in violoation of the Constitution, who did not apply the constitution fairly?
Nigeria needs a credible President.
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Kunle, should be in position to answer the brilliant questions you posed I hope. If in my "Aba" way I should dare a guess at your questions, it wreaks of obasanjo, he reverberates all over the place. The guy's a mental case who's unfit to occupy the office of security Chief of a Fortune 500 company in the U.S.
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I can smell blood everywhere and the return of chaos. Let there be no illusion, this time around.
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quote:Broadcast by his excellency, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo GCFR, on the imposition of a State of Emergency in Plateau State
Fellow Nigerians,
It is with a grave heart that I address you all today. We have all made personal and collective sacrifices not just to enthrone peace, stability and democracy in Nigeria but also to consolidate our democratic enterprise and cultivate new values. It is therefore very painful when that new collective commitment to democracy, peace and security is compromised, contaminated or mediated in any way or form.
The situation in Plateau State, to say the least, constitutes a challenge to our democracy, negates the norms of rational human interaction, contradicts the tenets of civil society, and devalues opportunities for peace, stability, coexistence and social justice. It constitutes a grave threat to law and order and a great danger to security in Plateau State and the neighbouring States of Bauchi, Nassarawa, Taraba and Benue.
It is therefore clearly a great threat to the security and unity of Nigeria. Even if active conflict and killings seemingly subside for now, it is a facade that will erupt again if fundamental actions are not taken now at it had subsided and erupted on and off since September 2001.
As at today, there is nothing on ground and no evidence whatsoever to show that the State Governor has the interest, desire, commitment, credibility and capacity to promote reconciliation, rehabilitation, forgiveness, peace, harmony and stability. If anything, some of his utterances, his lackadaisical attitude and seeming uneven-handedness over the salient and contending issues present him as not just part of the problem, but also as an instigator and a threat to peace. Plateau State cannot and must not experience another spate of violence, killings and destruction of property. If allowed, the crisis will engulf the entire nation.
Considering my constitutional responsibility as President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and having exhausted all possible avenues to have and to help the Governor of Plateau State to ensure security of life and property generally in that State, and cognizant of the proven inability and incompetence of the Governor to maintain security of life and property generally in the state and particularly in Langtang, Wase, and Yelwa-Shendam in the past few months, I have painfully come to the point that 1 have to resort to the last constitutional option available to ensure security of life and property of all citizens of Nigeria and non-Nigerians alike residing in any part of Plateau State.
Since 2001 when I first visited Plateau State as a result of the crisis, the situation has steadily deteriorated politically largely due to the failure of governance and the gross inefficiency in managing the rich and robust diversity of the state.
Tension and social differences have been exacerbated rather than building new bridges of harmony, tolerance, inclusion, and accommodation. Political errors have been magnified and politicized by opportunistic politicians that often put personal interest above those of the people and the State. Violence has reached unprecedented levels and hundreds have been killed with much more wounded or displaced from their homes on account of their ethnic or religious identification. Schooling for children has been disrupted and interrupted; businesses have lost billions of naira and property worth much more destroyed. Christians and Muslims that used to live together have become arch-enemies and the embers of hate have reached totally unacceptable levels.
Visitors and investors have fled or are fleeing Plateau State and the neighboring states have had their economies and social life disrupted and dislocated by the influx of internally displaced persons. Among leaders and ordinary people, the language of hate, distrust, violence, intolerance has become the norm. Nobody seems to be able to be neutral or impartial as you must either be tainted or drawn to one side or the other. Much more pitiful is the palpable loss of confidence in the political leadership of the State.
The consequence of insensitivity to existing realities and failure to put in place the necessary checks is what we are witnessing today in Plateau State and its neighboring states. The killings, looting, and wanton destruction of property in Kano are the direct result of the mismanaged affairs in Plateau State.
Nothing of course should be done or said to justify actions in Kano that must be condemned as the handiwork of manipulated irresponsible hoodlums. As I have advised all Governors in their capacity as Chief Security Officers of their states, they are held responsible for breaches of security in their respective States. No excuse will be tenable for such breaches. Henceforth, Governors will be held accountable.
Both Christianity and Islam hold life as sacred. Anyone who kills or instigates the killing of another human being except on established judicial judgment is a murderer and must be treated as such. The Federal Government and the neighboring states to Plateau State are incurring huge expenses in managing the socio-political and economic consequences of the near collapse of state authority and the breakdown of law and order in some parts of Plateau State and elsewhere. Opportunities for building networks and webs of dialogue across primordial lines have been recklessly squandered by a weak and incompetent political leadership which has allowed discontent to fester into deep hatred manifesting in bitterness, rage and destruction.
What has become clear is that the constituted authority in Plateau State is incapable of maintaining law and order, giving confidence to the people, managing religious, ethnic and social pluralism, and protecting lives and property of all citizens or determinedly unwilling to do so. I have had several meetings with political, religious and traditional rulers and leaders of thought from Plateau.
I have had several private consultations with political leaders and the Governor of Plateau State. The Federal Government had even set up at least three all-embracing peace committees charged with finding and using all possible ways and means to restore peace, law and order to Plateau State. The committees have been frustrated by vested interests in Plateau State that were clearly not on the side of peaceful coexistence, inclusion, tolerance, and harmony. In my personal and official capacities, I have done everything to bring lasting peace to Plateau State. lf nothing else, the political leadership in the state has failed woefully to guarantee peace and security and in many instances, it has wittingly and unwittingly encouraged acts that have subverted peace and tranquility.
At every point, the Governor of Plateau State either made himself unavailable on the ground to take appropriate action to stem the tide of violence or when he was available he was simply incompetent to take action. His personal conduct and unguarded utterances have inflamed passions.
The latest evidence of gross dereliction of duty, incompetence and insensitivity to the situation on ground in Plateau as well as disregard and disrespect for constituted authority was, when contrary to my advice that Governors should inform me before they travel out of the country so that I can deal with their deputies when they are away as well as know where to find them at quick notice in cases of emergency, the Governor of Plateau traveled out without notifying me. In this year alone, the Governor of Plateau State has traveled out of the country more than four times without bothering to notify me.
When crises broke out in his State, the Governor made no effort to return home immediately; he was away for about two weeks. And when he did return to the country, his first priority was to attend the Sports Festival in Abuja at a time when his State was burning.
It was not until Tuesday the 11 of May that, at my prompting, he informed me that he was calling a Security Committee meeting of the State. At the same time, 1 suggested to him to visit the areas of conflict and the displaced persons' camps that had flowed out of the state to the adjoining states; he was still making excuses as to why he could not do so.
On Thursday the 13th of May, I took it upon myself to visit the major centres of violence- Langtang, Yelwa-Shendam, and Wase to see things for myself I also took the opportunity to visit displaced persons in Bauchi State. Even in my company, the Governor's car was stoned and he did not escape abuse and insults from his own people.
From what 1 saw and heard, we need to take very serious action to stem the tide of what has now become a near mutual genocide in the affected areas of Plateau State and the stream of displaced persons to the adjoining states.
Until I visited the areas of disturbances with the Governor, he had neither visited the locations nor had he visited the displaced persons who had moved to Bauchi State since 200 I, let alone make arrangements for their return and resettlement back in Plateau State.
I have briefed the leaders of the National Assembly. One leader each from the Senate and House of Representatives accompanied me on my tour of Plateau and Bauchi States. The National Security Council had met and after necessary consultations at the government and party levels, it has become imperative that the bloodshed in Plateau State which has also reverberated in Kano and is threatening Kaduna, Bauchi, Taraba, Gombe, Benue and Nassarawa, even the Federal Capital Territory, should and must be stopped. The spillover from Kano is already threatening Owerri and Umuahia.
The Nigerian Constitution 1999 foresees the ultimate or emergency in part or all of Nigeria and provides for it as the last resort. Therefore, by virtue of Section 305 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999), I hereby declare a State of Emergency in Plateau State. This declaration has been published in a Federal Gazette as of today.
The Governor and his deputy, by this declaration will go on suspension and cease to be in charge of the affairs of Plateau State for six months in the first instance. An Administrator to manage the affairs of Plateau State in the person of retired General Chris Ali is hereby nominated.
The Plateau State House of Assembly also goes on suspension as the formal legislative body of the state with immediate effect. Having a State Assembly in position under a state of emergency is incongruous and may not allow for the expeditious actions that the Administrator will need, to put the state back into a situation of peace, harmony, security for all, and maintenance of law and order throughout the state. Elected officials below the State level are not suspended. The Federal Gazette containing the Declaration has been forwarded to the National Assembly in accordance with the Constitution.
It is hoped that the Administrator will not need new laws for the administration of the State. But if he does, it will be in the form of regulations which he will submit to the President for consideration by the Federal Executive Council and promulgated by the President for the State.
Violence brings no good to any people. It retards development, scares away investors, stultifies creativity, and contaminates social relations. At this period when we are all joining hands to carry out far-reaching fundamental reforms to ensure growth, stability, development and democracy, we cannot afford or tolerate acts of violence and destruction, precipitated by poor and incompetent leadership and insensitivity to the conditions of all the people.
The decision to impose a State of Emergency in Plateau State was based on the collective desire to strengthen our democratic practice, institutions, and values. This decision would without doubt enhance security as well as protect the stability and corporate existence of our nation for which many have died.
It is my hope and prayer that this six-month period will be used by the Administrator and all peace-Ioving people in and outside the state to bring peace and join hands to promote democratic values and enshrine the values of transparency, accountability, social justice, love, good neighborliness and good governance. .
May God bless Plateau State. ..
Long Live a united, peaceful, secure and democratic Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Now, explain why you say he is wrong.
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The greatest danger to peace and tranquility in Nigeria is Obansanjo. The whole Nigeria cannot be wrong. They are calling on Obansanjo to heed their call on SNC but Obasanjo has refused so far citing "One Nigeria".
Nigerians are looking for a leader that will respect the wishes of the people. Obasanjo is not. State of Emergency in Plateau will not solve the problem, instead, it will worsen it.
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The Senate (National Assembly) is yet to take a position, which effectively makes the "declaration" by the lawless fool illegal. Read thisday,Senate To Take Position Today.
quote: Now, explain why you say he is wrong.
I believe you meant his speech and the subsequent unnecessary "Emergency Declaration." Section 305 permits the President to obtain within 10 days, the approval of two-third of the National Assembly before he could declare a state of emergency in any part of the country. You asked for the section of the constitution that gave me the right to question this useless president's decision and I provided that info without any comment from you on it instead you posted a book, which tell you the truth I never cared to read. His book becomes meaningless in the face of his obvious disregard for the constitutional process. The questions below to you are exactly why WE (objective ones amongst us) believe your obasanjo is not only wrong but DEAD WRONG! Dear fellow African, the moment you guys stop the imbalance in your perspectives, the earlier sanity may return to that cursed nation. You remain evasive on a couple of questions posed by this honorable board, why is that? You watch out he’ll definitely die a miserable death you thought abacha had it bad just wait and see what will happen to him remember Cheschesku (sp?), who was slaughtered like a dog he was in Bucharest, Romania? I watched it live on TV it’s coming to a theatre near you in Nigeria.
I repeat is kano, kaduna, nassarawa and all the other hot spots in the north not part of obasanjo's nigeria?
Did he follow the process by going thru the Assembly and what is their position?
Any need for the premature declaration?
Do you believe this obasanjo is truly doing an outstanding job?
What happens to someone as twisted as this fella in the civilized world?
quote: Former Attorney-General of the Federation, Dr. Olu Onagoruwa remarked that it was the responsibility of the National Assembly and not the President to decide on such action...GuardianNews 5/19/04
We should all be reminded that though obasanjo would like the clueless to believe the State governor is the Chief Security Officer of a state, the reverse becomes the norm. Guys, the police commissioner takes no orders from the governor so tell us KUNLE how the afore could maintain the peace? Attempt sometimes to answer questions it helps to clear the air, get my beef?
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Kunle, Kunle, Obasanjo's declaration in plateau state is lopesided and unconstuitional period.The problem with you Nigerians is that no one,no body says the truth. How can you keep defending your presidents decision on this issue.
Kunle, answer this questions, Were people not killed in Kano state? Is it not true that soldiers in pretence they were helping to end the killings, shot and killed innocent civilians they were supposed to be protecting? What did the Kano state governor do to prevent this killings?
Why waste our time posting this useless speech by Obasanjo. As Nigeria's presidents he is supposed to protect every citizen. Do you know that over ten thousand citizens have been murdered under the watch of this president since he came to power? Some of which he personally approved. For example Odi, and Okigwe, just to mention a few.
Men lets be real, what goes on in Nigeria can not be tolerated anywhere in the civilized world.
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Now you're talking fella a "coup" I do not support but a BLOODY COUP gets my vote!
quote: Unfortunately, there is no independent national assembly.
The mere fact the sleepy bastardized assembly did not consent prior to the mad declaration makes their late approval even more pathetic. Can a bunch of lawless crooks preside over the lawmaking engine of a serious nation? No way!
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Kunle, Can't you ever stop at nothing in defense of Obasanjo?, why is the governors of Kano and Delta State not sacked or suspended like that of Pleteau State; can't you see the hand of the "might" oligarchy in Obasanjo's decision to sack the governor of Pleteau state and their satisfaction afterwords.
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I'm trying my hardest by going out on a limb not to insult you particularly but if you allow me, I did like to know if you're that "slow?"
Didn't you read the quote below in my earlier reply to your balderdash?
quote: Section 305 permits the President to obtain within 10 days, the approval of two-third of the National Assembly before he could declare a state of emergency in any part of the country .
Sir! Was this very simple stipulation met before this "bagger" of a president who in my opinion is nothing short of a terrorist declared the illegal "Emergency?"
quote:(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
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quote: Section 305 permits the President to obtain within 10 days, the approval of two-third of the National Assembly before he could declare a state of emergency in any part of the country .
Could you please tell us which part of section 305 you culled the above excerpts from. Thank you.
SECTION 305 Emergency Powers
305. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the President may by instrument published in the Official -Gazette} of the Government of the Federation issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the Federation or any part thereof.
(2) The President shall immediately after the publication, transmit copies of the Official -Gazette of the Government of the Federation containing the proclamation including the details of the emergency to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, each of whom shall forthwith convene or arrange for a meeting of the House of which he is President or Speaker, as the case may be, to consider the situation and decide whether or not to pass a resolution approving the Proclamation.
(3) The President shall have power to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency only when -
(a) the Federation is at war;
(b) the Federation is in imminent danger of invasion or involvement in a state of war;
(c) there is actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof to such extent as to require extraordinary measures to restore peace and security;
(d) there is a clear and present danger of an actual breakdown of public order and public safety in the Federation or any part thereof requiring extraordinary measures to avert such danger;
(e) there is an occurrence or imminent danger, or the occurrence of any disaster or natural calamity, affecting the community or a section of the community in the Federation;
(f) there is any other public danger which clearly constitutes a threat to the existence of the Federation; or
(g) the President receives a request to do so in accordance with the provisions of subsection (4) of this section.
(4) The Governor of a State may, with the sanction of a resolution supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly, request the President to issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in the State when there is in existence within the State any of the situations specified in subsection (3) (c), (d) and (e) of this section and such situation does not extend beyond the boundaries of the State.
(5) The President shall not issue a Proclamation of a state of emergency in any case to which the provisions of subsection (4) of this section apply unless the Governor of the State fails within a reasonable time to make a request to the President to issue such Proclamation.
(6) A Proclamation issued by the President under this section shall cease to have effect -
(a) if it is revoked by the President by instrument published in the Official Gazette of the Government of the Federation;
(b) if it affects the Federation or any part thereof and within two days when the National Assembly is in session, or within ten days when the National Assembly is not in session, after its publication, there is no resolution supported by two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly approving the Proclamation;
(c) after a period of six months has elapsed since it has been in force:
Provided that the National Assembly may, before the expiration of the period of six months aforesaid, extend the period for the Proclamation of the state of emergency to remain in force from time to time for a further period of six months by resolution passed in like manner; or
(d) at any time after the approval referred to in paragraph (b) or the extension referred to in paragraph (c) of this subsection, when each House of the National Assembly revokes the Proclamation by a simple majority of all the members of each House.