Americans must now do their bit to ensure that dictators are forced to bow to the will of the masses!
My heartfelt congratulations to all the anti-Iraq invasion members of this forum. This result will leave Tony in exactly the same position that Saddam was after the first Iraqi war - weakened for common good. Long live the surviving Children of Iraq!
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Now, we are seeing the regime change that the occupiers told us about. Saddam is proving to be more powerful in captivity than he ever was as maximum leader.
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Not to worry because come November the American people will send Bush Jr. back to crowford Texas where he belongs so he can go back to drinking and smoking stuff that are against the law.
Kerry in a landslide.
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quote:Now, we are seeing the regime change that the occupiers told us about. Saddam is proving to be more powerful in captivity than he ever was as maximum leader. --Daud
Daud:
Nothing is new under the sun. If you remember, one of the bumper stickers during the Clinton Vs Bush Snr battle read something like: "Saddam's still got his job, what about yours?"
It must be the mad and highly irrational anger that drove Bush Jr to ensure that Saddam left before him. The outcome of the war was there for all to see even before the first prozaic induced maverick bomb was dropped on hapless Iraqis.
He should listen to Robin Cook who resigned in protest to the Iraq war:
quote: Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today Programme, former Foreign Secretary Robin Cook said Mr Blair needed to reassure the public he had heard the anti-war message from the voters.
"Out there are a lot of people who withheld their Labour vote because they disagreed with what we did in Iraq.
"The tragedy is that hundreds of very good Labour councillors have lost their seats as a result of something which many of them themselves would have opposed.
"If we are to win these people back, it's not enough to simply say we are holding our nerve, we are seeing it though," Mr Cook said.
"We also have to say we have heard what you said, we understand your feelings and yes you have a point and if you vote Labour again it's not going to happen again," he added.
The BBC reporter reckons Mr Blair has learnt his lessons: The voters NOT bloody Bush sent him to No. 10 Downing street:
BBC political editor Andrew Marr said Mr Blair knew he could not undertake anything like the Iraq war ever again.
When Bush came to Engalnd and squandered tax payer's money with his paranoia induced security retinue, I remember a placard asking him politely: "Bush, go away and take Blair with you"
He may yet heed that call if there is no Chad in Florida come November. Then both has-been cowards can meet up at the oil Ranch in Texas or make silly speeches at each others funeral.
Ndi ocha di aruru ala! Sylva is right!
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The politics of British is not the same as the politics of Americans. In this country, politics is based on the strength of the military or epecially the economy. Yep, the Economy is recovering, gas prices is coming down and by July 2004, Iraqi people will become independent from the Yankees. I know Tony Blair, he is no George Bush. I also know the British economy is not based on war economy. But ours is based on war economy. GW, will bring home the bacon just in time for the election. Mark my word.
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I have said before that those soldiers who chose to go to Iraq to commit suicide should have saved US taxpayers the flight ticket; they could have jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. The Spaniards spoke earlier this year. Now, the British have spoken to their Uncle Ton slave boy. If the Americans choose to bury their heads in the sand come November, at least we all know that theirs is a vote in support of war-mongering around the world, and no one should ever again call the US a peace-loving country, or blame their naked aggression on their leaders alone.
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Bush "bring the bacon"? The only becon he will be bringing will be to his wife in Crowford Texas after the voters send him packing. He will have all the time in the world to kill all the pigs and bring his wife the bacon to cook.
Be it in Spain and now the UK, and from all indication in the U.S. come November, what all this people are saying is that: COLONALISM OR NEO-COLONIZATION UNDER ANY DISGUISE, SHAPE OR FORM HAS NO PLACE IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
Credit should also go to the anti-war, anti-colonalism activists on this board (Nwa Aro included) and around the world that checkmated that Hitler-to-be in the Whitehouse and his errand boys around the globe. There's no way to say it than to say that EVIL TRIUMPHS ONLY WHERE GOOD PEOPLE KEEP SILENT OR WORK WITH/FOR THE EVIL ONES.
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There is no cause for Biafrans, BiafraNigerians as well as Africans in general to support without reservation, the war policies and efforts in Iraq.
In the anti-(Iraq)war population worldwide, which has recently been swelling by the day especially in The United States, it is interesting to note that different individuals/entities have diverse primary reasons for opposing the war. For instance, some are primarily opposing the idea of "going to war for oil". Others are predominantly protesting the prtext of "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as a justification for going to war"(a false pretext for that matter). Mounting material and human cost is the prime mover for other war protesters including, I suppose, most of the recent anti-war converts within The United States citizenry.
There is one reason for opposing the war policies and efforts in Iraq that should be the foremost and most compelling of all, especially for those people from other parts of the world outside of The United States. To make the case for this anti-war rationale one has to study and scrutinize the war policies as well as the mindset that informed them. Such a scrutiny will reveal arbitrary and absolute policies that were informed by a supremacist and imperialistic mindset. Beclouded in unrealistic grandiosity, this is a mindset that presupposes "as the only, remaining Superpower we have earned the right to, and we shall do anything whatsoever we want to do(in our national interest), anywhere in the world, and at the time of our choosing, especially since we are absolutely confident that we have the capacity to successfully do anything whatsoever we want to do". To this mindset, Iraq provided a timely, irresistible and critical opportunity to validate and showcase to the rest of the world, the capabilities of the only, remaining Superpower. Iraq was an opportunity for the only, remaining Superpower to send a clear and unmistakable message to the rest of the world. Through a careful exploration, one will also discover the extremely influential role of the neo-conservatives of the American body politic whose policy it is, in fact, that is being implemented as theAmerican foreign policy, so far. The mindset that informed those war policies and efforts, and the arbitrariness of the policies themselves comprise the foremost and most compelling reason anyone can advance for opposing the war policies and efforts.
The number of American voters, who are so unhappy with George W. Bush and the policies he is implementing that they can only vote against him in the coming November elections, is more than enough to vote Bush out of office. The only question is: will all those voters who hate Bush enough bother to go and cast their vote on that election day?
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quote: The number of American voters, who are so unhappy with George W. Bush and the policies he is implementing that they can only vote against him in the coming November elections, is more than enough to vote Bush out of office. The only question is: will all those voters who hate Bush enough bother to go and cast their vote on that election day? ~~~ Chei
You have nothhing to worry about. Those people hate Bush so more they will vote. Eeven Republicans are upset with Bush, take a look at recent congressional elections they have been losing because of Bush and his policies.
Bush is done.
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Kerry in a Landslide. I will keep saying it until the resident DIDO HEAD Waypoint1 retracts his earlier statement and accept a Bush defeat in November.
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Quote ------------------------- “Through a careful exploration, one will also discover the extremely influential role of the neo-conservatives of the American body politic whose policy it is, in fact, that is being implemented as theAmerican foreign policy, so far.---Chei -------------------------
It is that neo-conservatiism (what I would rather discribe as neo-facism)that has made most otherwise America-freindly people around he world to turn against the US. The negative reaction we are witnessing against the DISCREDITED Bush Jr. admistration is what you get when you have the WRONG PEOPLE governing the right people/country.
Quote: -------------------- “The only question is: will all those voters who hate Bush enough bother to go and cast their vote on that election day?—Chei. --------------------
Good question. I repeat again, this Iraq matter is not an isssue of christinity vs Islam or liberilism vs true conservatism, rather what it is in real life is a bunch of power-hungry and profit-driven rascals trying to have their way without caring how and what the consequense of their actions would do to the larger world. While we are being fed with the garbage that the Americans went into Iraq to “liberate” the Iraqis, fact on the ground is that most Americans and their equally greedy SCRAMBLERS from other parts of the world saw this as an opportunity to make quick profit, mostly from the Iraqi oil industry.
Therefor, the upcoming US elections is an opportunity for well-meaning Americans to tell the world that they are by and large not party to this madness. Because should they make the mistake of bringing back that fellow with the mindset of Hitler back to the Whitehouse, they should not expect the world to change their anti-American attitude towards their country. Nor should those Americans that venture into the wrong places (say Saudi Arabia or Iraq) expect to be welcomed with red carpet.
For while the Bushes of America go about telling those that care to listen that the world is against America becuase of its "greatness," truth is that, and speaking from the interaction of had with a cross section of people from around the world, I can say that PEOPLE STILL LOVE AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE BUT HATE BUSH AND ALL THAT HE AND HIS COHORTS REPRESENT OR CLAIM TO REPRESENT . So its the turn of the real Americans to stand up to be counted. Or else...
Nwabiafra: Thanks for your welcome and your kind words. I must say that I am very impressed with the way you have taken the pain to EXPOSE that fellow in the Whitehouse for what he and his gang are: LIARS. You have also inavertly helped send him parking, even before the elections are held. Continue to say it AS IT IS and let the heads roll as they should and will.
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You've been scarce these days. What's going on? I miss reading from you and welcome back.
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Nwa Aro, for awhile it seemed you went underground glad to have you baaaaaaaack! Count my vote as one for world peace and vacate order on little georgie bush. hehehehe.
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quote: Nwabiafra: Thanks for your welcome and your kind words. I must say that I am very impressed with the way you have taken the pain to EXPOSE that fellow in the Whitehouse for what he and his gang are: LIARS. You have also inavertly helped send him parking, even before the elections are held. Continue to say it AS IT IS and let the heads roll as they should and will.~~~ Nwa Aro
Nwa Aro,
Thanks for the kind words on my work in exposing Bush Jr.
I'm a man that speaks the truth and hate lairs so whenever I see lies being told I take offense to it and call the person or persons out on it.
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Stone Cold: Thanks for asking. I didn't go "underground," rather, I travelled out of base. Good to know that I was missed by you folks in this village.
MeBiafran, Sorry I couldn't reply in kind when you said in another thread that I am one of your favorite writers in this village. You can imagine how humbly gratified I was when I read that line from someone who broke the record of becoming a 'Senior Advocate' within a period of less than thirty days. Moreover, your take on that fellow called AfroEuro and his numerous handles was to say the list MARVELOUS! Keep the grammer coming. Peace!!
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Meanwhile, the tribe of those that want the rabble-rouser out of the White House is growing.
----------------------------------- Former diplomats call for Bush ouster
Foreign policy damages nation, group says
From Paul Courson CNN Thursday, June 17, 2004 Posted: 0106 GMT (0906 HKT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) – The Bush administration's foreign policy in Iraq and elsewhere has been a "disaster," and President Bush should not be re-elected, a group of former diplomats and military leaders say in a newly released statement.
The group, called Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change, held a news conference Wednesday to explain why its members feel "the need for a major change in the direction of our foreign policy," and underscore that they believe their concerns are bipartisan.
A statement from the group notes its more than two dozen members include Democrats and Republicans who have "served every president since Harry S. Truman."
They contend Bush's foreign policy has failed at "preserving national security and providing world leadership."
Members expressing their opposition in the statement are former senior diplomatic, national security and military officials.
In opening remarks, spokeswoman Phyllis Oakley said international respect for the United States is now "crumbling under an administration blinded by ideology and a callous indifference to the realities of the world around it." Oakley was an assistant secretary of state for intelligence and research in the Clinton administration.
Charles Freeman, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, said the Bush administration has yet to articulate how it plans to depart from Iraq, and said the situation is "complicated by insults to our allies, the indifference to the views of partners in the region, and the general disdain for the United Nations and international organizations that the administration still finds difficult to conceal." Freeman, a career diplomat, served both Republican and Democratic administrations.
At a Wednesday news conference, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher rejected the notion the United States has acted without consulting its allies. "It's not true. We went to the United Nations on Iraq. We went to the United Nations on terrorism and 9/11. We've had four unanimous U.N. resolutions since the end of the war," he responded. Although the group expressed alarm about the sidetracked Middle East "road map to peace" between Palestinians and Israelis, it was the U.S. handling of Iraq that helped crystallize the group's concern.
Retired Gen. Tony McPeak, a former U.S. Air Force chief of staff who had endorsed the Bush 2000 campaign, Wednesday said of Bush's Iraq policy, "Because of the Pollyannish assumptions that were made by the administration in going in there that ... bouquets would be thrown at us and so forth, we were totally unprepared for the post-combat occupation. And so you see here, unfolding in front of us, a terrible disaster." McPeak headed the Air Force during the Persian Gulf War in 1991.
The group acknowledged it takes a partisan stand in opposing Bush, but, as member William Harrop put it, "When there is one prominent rival to President Bush in this election, obviously we think Senator Kerry should be elected, but we are not here to speak for him. We are here to say there must be a change."
Harrop, a career diplomat who retired in 1994 after 40 years of foreign service, held ambassadorships to Guinea, Kenya and the Seychelles, Zaire, and Israel. ---------------------------------
As expected, the REAL Americans are standing up for what we who live outside the States know the U.S to have been (before the Wacko and his gang came in) and out to be: a country peopled by mostly people of CHARACTER and LEAD by people of PRINCIPLE. Long live America!!
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Nwa Aro nwannem, what could anyone say but the truth sadly those of them that live here (U.S.) with me who want to act or be a wannabe throw tantrum whenever the truth is revealed to them. Little georgie bush has always been a disaster going back to his college days an admission which daddy Bush bought for him with his eventual "D" grades graduation. All the business ventures this "onye nmayi" was involved in went belly-up yet they smuggled him into the now "black house." Thanks to daddy appointed Supreme Court justices.
Why are some of our Igbo brothers so disillusioned? Why are they not concerned about their future in that accident of a nation, oops nation? I mean "Banana Republic" they call nigeria? Does "Common Sense" which I was told is not really common have a place in their minds?
My experience has been those that only got here say less than ten years ago have the penchant to scream U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! Without really knowing what the hell they're shouting about while showing less enthusiasm for Igbo affairs.
Below is from another thread "Topic: To all who has eligible Sons & Daughters, posted June 17, 2004 06:18 PM.
quote:My long stay on this board has indeed helped me understand these folks better. I hope with time you will as well. – Nwa Aro
Believe me I’m sifting thru the chaffs more rapidly than I thought. What folks don’t realize is the DNA one leaves behind with each writing, it therefore, makes absolute no sense to wobble since that individual’s hypocrisy would be glaringly staring the afore in the eyes.
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Bush next people. He is going down in November!!
Bush Feels the Heat: U.S. Voters Turn On Him Over Iraq By Rupert Cornwell Independent U.K.
Wednesday 23 June 2004
President George Bush's bid for re-election is stalling as a result of the turmoil in Iraq, according to the results of an opinion poll that shows he has fallen behind in the race for the White House.
For the first time a test of the public mood has shown Mr Bush trailing his Democratic challenger, John Kerry, not just in the overall contest for the presidency but in what was considered his strongest suit: the fight against terrorism.
The latest Washington Post/ABC News survey offers a distinctly gloomy prospect for Mr Bush in his battle to secure a second term. After three months in which his foreign policy strategy has been under the spotlight like never before, public opinion may be finally turning against the Iraq war. His chances of re-election have never looked more uncertain.
The poll's findings confirm that even a record $100m-plus of campaign advertisements aimed at discrediting his opponent have been no counterbalance to the torrent of bad news for Mr Bush - the continuing violence in Iraq, damning reports on the pre-war intelligence failures and the 11 September attacks, and, above all, the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib.
The President now trails Mr Kerry by 45 per cent to 53 per cent, one of the widest margins yet recorded.
Most worrying for Republicans are Mr Bush's plunging poll ratings in the "war on terror", which once seemed set to carry him to a comfortable election win in November.
Instead, for all the party machine's efforts to brand Mr Kerry as weak on national security, it is the Democrat who is judged likely to do the better job in fighting terrorism. The margin is a bare 48 per cent to 47 per cent, a dead heat in statistical terms. But it is in sharp contrast to the Washington Post/ABC News poll's finding just a month ago, when the President led by 52 per cent to 39 per cent. Americans' views of the Iraq occupation are also changing. Only 51 per cent believe the war has improved the long-term security of the US.
A record 71 per cent say the level of US casualties in Iraq is "unacceptable". And by a 52 to 47 majority, Americans feel the war was not worth fighting.
A similar majority disapproves of Mr Bush's job performance. Although more than four months remain until the election on 2 November, not since Harry Truman in 1948 has an incumbent president has been so low in the polls at this stage and still won a second term.
In a separate dent to the administration's credibility, the State Department was yesterday issuing revised figures for the victims of terror worldwide in 2003, showing a sharp increase in the number of those killed. A report two months ago claimed that 307 people died in 190 attacks, the fewest since 1969 - enabling Mr Bush to boast that the US was winning the "war on terror". But the new figures, to be announced by Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, were expected to show that the total killed was close to the 725 who died in 2002. "The facts we had were wrong," Richard Boucher, Mr Powell's spokesman, said.
The poll contains other alarming data for the White House. Mr Bush has based his political image on straight talking. But, by a 52 per cent to 39 per cent margin, Mr Kerry leads in the "honest and trustworthy" category - a measure of how much Iraq and the reasons advanced for the war have eroded the President's credibility.
Even more astonishing, and equally worrying for Bush strategists, those surveyed gave the Democratic candidate a massive 20 point lead when asked which candidate "better understands the problems of people like you."
The finding turns campaign stereotypes on their head. Whatever his failings, Mr Bush was supposed to be the "regular guy" candidate. Whatever his virtues, Mr Kerry has mostly been depicted as a patrician and extremely wealthy north-easterner who has little in common with ordinary Americans.
Even if the third party contender Ralph Nader is included in the race for the White House, Mr Kerry, a Massachusetts senator, still leads President Bush by 48 per cent to 44 per cent, with 6 per cent for Mr Nader. Most analysts believe that the independent candidate will, in fact, do badly should he stand, probably picking up less than the 2.7 per cent he won four years ago.
Mr Nader took a significant step in that direction yesterday, by enlisting Peter Camejo, a Green Party activist, to be his vice-presidential running mate. This should bring a formal endorsement by the Greens of Mr Nader, who ran as the party's nominee in 2000.
If so, he will win de-facto ballot access in 22 states, including Florida where Nader votes cost Al Gore the state, and the presidency, four years ago. But this time the Democrats are so united in their desire to get rid of Mr Bush that few are likely to indulge in the luxury of a protest vote.
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It is not yet Uhuru for those who want to see Tony Blair removed from office. While Labour is losing seats, it does seem that Blair will be defeated in the elections when it really counts.
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