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The World Court has ordered Israel to tear down the wall that Israel says it is using to prevent terrorism.
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UN rules against Israeli barrier
Palestinians say the barrier divides their communities
The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel's West Bank barrier is illegal and construction of it should be stopped immediately.
The ruling said the barrier's construction was "tantamount to annexation" and impeded the Palestinian right to self-determination.
Israel insists the barrier is needed to keep out West Bank militants. The Palestinians consider it a land grab.
The court's decision is not binding, but can serve as a basis for UN action.
Guide to the route and structure of the West Bank barrier
At-a-glance
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat hailed the ruling as a "victory for the Palestinian people".
"We salute this decision condemning the racist wall," Mr Arafat told reporters at his West Bank headquarters.
Israel has said it will not accept the non-binding judgement and says it needs the barrier to protect its citizens.
The court in The Hague unanimously rejected Israel's argument that it has no right to rule on the legality of the barrier.
'Fait accompli'
Several countries, including the US and UK, had argued the court should stay out of the issue, warning that any opinion it gives could interfere with the Middle East peace process.
The ICJ began issuing its ruling at 1300GMT - the reading lasted about two hours.
Reading the ruling, Court President Shi Jiuyong of China said the court was not convinced the barrier's construction was the only means to achieve Israel's aim of protecting its people from suicide attacks.
The construction of the wall is contrary to international law
ICJ ruling: Key points Guide to World Court The construction of the wall created a fait accompli which could become permanent, it added.
"It would be tantamount to de facto annexation," Mr Shi said.
"That construction, along with measures previously taken, thus severely impeded the exercise by the Palestinian people of its right to self-determination."
The current route of the barrier cannot be justified for military needs, he added.
The court ruled that:
the construction and its associated regime was contrary to international law; Israel was under obligation to cease construction and dismantle the wall; Israel should compensate owners of land seized to construct the barrier and those harmed by the barrier; all states are under obligation not to recognise the situation and ensure Israel's compliance with international law; the UN should consider what further action to take. One of the 15 members of the court, US Judge Thomas Buergenthal, dissented from all of the above findings.
"They want us out of this area so that when the settlers come they will have peace."
The court has spent five months considering the issue of the barrier at the request of the UN General Assembly. It has received written arguments from more than 40 countries.
Much of the 640km (400-mile) barrier is being built on territory Israel occupied in 1967, rather than along the internationally recognised boundary between Israel and the West Bank.
Palestinians say the network of walls, fences and ditches is taking away their land and dividing their communities, separating people from schools or workplaces.
They received a boost from the Israeli High Court last week, when it ordered the government to reroute a 40km (25-mile) section of the barrier near Jerusalem.
Israel says the barrier, which it started building in 2002, has already served its stated purpose by preventing suicide bomb attacks against Israelis.
Why is Israel attempting to annex Palestinian territory?
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Kunle, please visit: Topic: "Israel: Time for Palestinians To End Their Lies." Posted by MeBiafran, May 20, 2004 06:59 PM, to read about Israel and the Palestian lies. Thank you.
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The key to tearing down the wall is in the hands of Arafat, once he decides terrorism is not a respectable way of life then he can have Palestine free of walls.
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I beg to difer. I do not think that the modern day Arafat is a terroist. He is a freedom fighter trying to end foreign oppression and occupation the best way he could.
Could Israeli pull back to pre-1967 war boundaries? Then if the arm struggle does not stop, the Palestinians will have themselves to blame.
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What's up? Before you differ why don't you give some answers to Topic: "Israel: Time for Palestinians To End Their Lies." Posted by MeBiafran, May 20, 2004 06:59 PM.
quote: I do not think that the modern day Arafat is a terroist. - Rick
Fair but what about the Arafat of old? Could that Arafat been a terrorist if so isn't the statue of limitation on murder infinite?
quote:He is a freedom fighter trying to end foreign oppression and occupation the best way he could. - Rick
I am at this point disappointed that you left unanswered questions that would tell the whole story and choose to aid the arab lies that Israel belong to them. Below makes two articles no one in here have attempted to parry or explain yet tend to support Arafat's madness. Unfair to the Israeli I must add.
quote: Subject: History of Israel From: Don Date: Jun 11 2003 10:32AM
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.
5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.
11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict: The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them
15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
16. The U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
18. The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.
19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
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quote:Originally posted by chiboy: The key to tearing down the wall is in the hands of Arafat, once he decides terrorism is not a respectable way of life then he can have Palestine free of walls.
When the so-called civilized Americans are in bed with the war criminal, mass murderer, and terrorist named Ariel Sharon, I don't see where lies America's or your credibility in attacking a freedom fighter like Arafat.
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The walls will stay, and if Arafat decides to continue his intifada or jihad or whatever he will go the way of Rantisi and his fellow terrorist sheik Yassin. The message is very simple, if you attempt to cross that wall with bombs then you have sentenced yourself to "death by Apache".
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What Israel has going for it in this case is that this ICJ decision is only an advisory opinion; it is not enforceable without additional action from the UN General Assembly. An Israeli official was quick to dismiss the decision as "a piece of garbage" because it is likely to end in yet another unenforced General Assembly Resolution against Israel. I expect the Palestinians to go to the UN to seek a General Assmbly Resolution demanding that Israel take the wall down. The matter could then go to a UN Security Council vote, which the US will likely veto.
There is an important distinction between this case and the Bakassi Peninsula case between Cameroon and Nigeria. Unlike the Bakassi Peninsula case, which the ICJ reviewed under the court's compulsory jurisdiction, this case entitled LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WALL IN THE OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY was submitted by the UN General Assembly to the ICJ for an advisory opinion under the advisory jurisdiction of the ICJ pursuant to Article 65, paragraph 1, of the Statute of the Court, and Article 96, paragraph 1, of the UN Charter.
Arafat is not capable of making peace, he is the stumbling block to the Palestinian statehood, he structured and funds a terrorist organization that is part and parcel of his PLO, organizes and orders it's tactical actions; stubbornly wasted their best opportunity of statehood when they refused to accept peace and fellowship offered by Ehud Barak during his time of prime minister ship of the State of Israel and left General Barak dejected and unfulfilled. Prime minister Aerial Sharon as a result, is the response of the Israeli to Arafat's terrorism.
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With or without your pandering, the world now knows that the Jews of Israel are the Nazis of the Middle East. Name anything that the Nazis did to Jews and Israel during WW II, and the Jews of Palestine have done worse to the Palestinians. Sooner or later, you will come to understand that Jews think of no one but Jews, and they will not lift a finger to help you and your Biafra.
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Daud, make reference to Sudan, your closest neighbor, dark skin like you, perhaps you could swallow your silly Arab pride for a change. I guess, it is all about religion, stupid!
The Palestinians deserve every grain of suffering metered to them by the state of Isreal because Arafat, Jihads and the desert rats know no peace and do not recorgnize the existence of isreal as a state. Isreal is sorrounded by Arabs have the right to existence, even if that right infringes on the life of a moslem.
Arab nation will like to see Isreal burn down, peace or no peace. Was it not Saddam who spent billions of dollars for a Super gun to pick bone against Isreal more than 600 miles away from Iraq and not involved in the Gulf war. This is the kind of vindictive desire all Arabs have for Isreal. To understand Isreal is to understand the Desert Rats in their midst.It is violence, hatred, bloody and Arabs monstrous intent to extinguish the state of Isreal by the dictact of the satanic verses. Isreal must do what it gotta do to survive.
Hail Biafra
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For your information, Yesir Arafat is a man of peace who has won the Nobel Prize for Peace. When your masters in America and Tel Aviv murder him, they will have murdered a Nobel leaureate, and they will have told the world that those who seek peace should be murdered "by Apache" as your comrade chiboy delightfully put it.
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Arafat won the Noble Peace alright through affirmative action not that he deserved it. The desert rat has been Palestinian chief, way before Nigeria got it's independence. His track record is demonstrible of a duplitious absolutism of a power monger blended with horror for a statesman. Compare him to Mendalla who was in prison for 27 years and librated his people. How about that for a noble Peace? Copy that.
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quote: The key to tearing down the wall is in the hands of Arafat, once he decides terrorism is not a respectable way of life then he can have Palestine free of walls……Chiboy
I concur with the sentiment expressed above to a substantial degree.
TEL AVIV, Israel - Palestinian militants detonated a bomb near a Tel Aviv bus stop early Sunday, killing a woman and wounding more than 20 other people, police and Israeli media said.
The explosion shattered a period of relative quiet inside Israel and came two days after the U.N. world court ruled that Israel's West Bank separation barrier is illegal. Israel says the barrier is meant to block Palestinian attackers.
The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a Palestinian militant group loosely linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction, claimed responsibility, saying the attack was in revenge for Israeli army operations in the West Bank city of Nablus. Israel recently killed the group's top commander in the city.
"This says that we can reach every place, even when there is a fence," an Al Aqsa spokesman said.
Tel Aviv police chief Yossi Sedbon said the bombing apparently was carried out by militants but not by a suicide bomber. Militants had not successfully carried out an attack inside Israel since March.
Sedbon said the explosives were planted on the side of the road and went off as a bus stood nearby. The blast blew out the windows of the bus, he said.
"I heard the explosion and I saw the hysteria," witness Shlomi Ben-Abu told Army Radio. "A woman soldier flew across my view. That's what I saw. It was not on a bus. It was at a bus stop."
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said the bombing was a consequence of the world court's decision.
"The murderous act this morning is the first that occurred to the credit of the decision of the world court at the Hague," Sharon said. "The decision sends a destructive message to encourage the terror and denounces countries that are defending themselves against it."
He called the ruling a "slap in the face" to Israel's fight against Palestinian militants and said his nation "totally rejects the decision."
The court issued a sweeping condemnation of the barrier on Friday, saying it violates international law and that Israel should compensate Palestinians harmed by the structure.
The decision was nonbinding, but the Palestinians hope to use the decision to build international opposition at the United Nations against Israel.
Israel did not recognize the court's jurisdiction in the case and said it will continue building the barrier, which it says has been a key reason for the recent dramatic slowdown in attacks. About one-quarter of the planned 425-mile-long structure is complete.
U.N. Mideast envoy Terje Roed-Larsen, in New York to discuss the aftermath of the court decision, condemned the attack "in the strongest terms," a spokeswoman said. "He urges the Palestinian Authority to deploy all its efforts to put an end to terror."
It is noteworthy that Israel would do what has to be done to protect their interests--even if that means scoffing at UN's ineffective (ineffective because the UN cannot enforce any decision and the US would probably veto anyway) pronouncements.
Nigeria/ns ought to decry and possibly reject the shameful decree that now entitles Cameroon to a portion of real estate that belongs to Nigeria. Nigerian or Black Al-Qaeda apologists (or those sympathetic to terrorists) have not said anything to condemn the deplorable neglect of Nigeria's leadership to the plight of Nigerians from Bakassi.
They sheepishly accept the ICJ decision on the matter, but they have predictably come out lend their arid voices of support to these Arabs that love Blacks so much. And does anyone really expect that these self-immolating Africans, nay Nigerians would utter a word in condemnation of the slaughter by armed ARAB militiamen, of their fellow BLACK people in Sudan?
Who knows, perhaps these eccentric Africans figure that if they hate and oppose the Jews or Americans vehemently enough, Jewish or American leaders (like their own clueless, vacillating puppet leaders) would cease to look out for their own strategic interests.
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To reduce what he aptly called "the impulse of terror" in the world and the middle east in particular, below is what the man whom from all indication undertstands what TRUE PEACE means in all its ramifications:
Quote: ----------------------- I think peace in the Middle East needs resolving the differences between the Palestinians and the Isrealis...based on the rock-solid guarranty of Isreal's security and normal relationshionship with its neigbours and giving Palestinians their own country.---Bill Clinton. -----------------------
The man (Clinton) did put those words into action by bringing Arafat and the late Rabin together (a rare feat) to talk and agree to something. Unfortunately, it was Arafat who reneged when it mattered most. Time has shown that Bill Clinton's then 'Oslo Proposal' was and is still the only way to resolve the crisis we witness in the Middle East,
While the Bushes focus on Iraq (for economic reasons,) most historians and diplomats on the other hand agree that the way to the Middle East leads through Gaza and Jeruselem and NOT through Bagdad as the Bushes argur. There's no arguing the fact that the anger we witness in the muslim world (and to some extend some more accomodating christian countries) around the world against the U.S. has more to do with the unresolved Isreal-Palestine issue than it has to do with the ILLEGAL U.S. invasion of Iraq.
Though some (from both religions) will as expected infuse their religious sentiments into this debates, I still posit that be it in Nigeria, Africa, the U.S. and around the world, that the only way to have a long-lasting peace and understanding in our world is by seeing that justice is done TO ALL without regard to race, religion or country or origin. For as significant as this court ruling is, the judgement on its own cannot and WILL NOT help neither the Isrealis have the security THEY DESERVE nor will it give the Palestinians the Statehood they also DESERVE. What is needed therefor above any court judgment or public condemnation (from both sides) is COMMON SENSE to understand that PEACE and JUSTICE are two sides of A COIN; you just cant pray/wish for the former by erasing the latter, or vice-versa.
Daud, Kunle & co: Your argument for justice for the Palestinians (something I agree with you guys) will make more sense if you guys can also put same or even more energy in fighting against the BRAZEN injustice going on in Nigeria/Africa. You guys cannot expect people to take you guys serious when you either maintain DEAD silence or support when these atrocities happen in your neck of the wood in Nigeria, only to mount the pulpit to call for "justice" for others when it happens elsewhere. IT SIMPLY DONT MAKE SENSE.
That's my two pence contribution to this thread.
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Daud, Kunle & co: Your argument for justice for the Palestinians (something I agree with you guys) will make more sense if you guys can also put same or even more energy in fighting against the BRAZEN injustice going on in Nigeria/Africa. You guys cannot expect people to take you guys serious when you either maintain DEAD silence or support when these atrocities happen in your neck of the wood in Nigeria, only to mount the pulpit to call for "justice" for others when it happens elsewhere. IT SIMPLY DONT MAKE SENSE.
Nwa Aro:
I am one of those who believe that as much as this board has grown over these years, it needs to grow away from certain tendencies purveyed by a majority of the contributors. Sadly, there appears to be a standing proposition by the majority on this board that we must all sink into the abyss that is Nigeria before one could discuss important international issues. I have now determined that to accept that proposition in this particular board is to succumb to the coterie of Abu Ghraib apologists in their intellectual kwashiokor who give the color of Biafra to every issue and insist upon a mad man's contrast between light and darkness. I will not be goaded into the senseless universe of ethnic projects and agitations for Bantustan republics spear-headed by confused manicheans, including the Igbo Alhajis who refuse to listen to reason and the views of others. In that regard, it could well be that we need to tary a little on these international issues to educate these Peter Pans so they can deal competently with the Biafra issues that they are so obsessed with.
The bottomline is that Israel will find ways to explain its crimes against humanity in Palestine, and America will explain away its crimes in Iraq. But, so will others. Don't expect that there will be exceptions made for the "Jews of Africa."
Under George Bush Jr., the US decided to become a rogue state, withdrawing from long-standing international treaties, including Ballistic Missiles treaties, which the US signed with the USSR, developing new nuclear bombs that the US intends to use to kill the leaders of other countries in their bonkers, bombs that when used will also wipe out and entire city, withdrawing from the International Criminal Court so the US could commit atrocities in Abu Ghraib. Like the idiot that he is, George Bush withdrew from the ABM treaty without first making sure that the US had an effective missile defense. Like a spoiled child, Bush is relying on the same world that he shunned at the UN to help keep America safe while he terrorized his perceived enemies.
Forget the outbursts of the GCS patients and other Bush apologists for a moment, the resentment that you see against America today is not an Arab-Muslim/ Christian matter; it is coming from people and countries who loved America hoped in America. The entire world rallied around the US after September 11. Today, Bush has turned America into a rogue state hated around the world. The people that are fighting on the same side as the US in Afghanistan are the ones telling the world that Bush is the new Hitler who deserves the bloody eye he is getting in Iraq.
I do not need to be drawn into Biafra to see or express that.
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"The Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a Palestinian militant group loosely linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction, claimed responsibility, saying the attack was in revenge for Israeli army operations in the West Bank city of Nablus. Israel recently killed the group's top commander in the city.
"This says that we can reach every place, even when there is a fence," an Al Aqsa spokesman said."
Daud
You can see for yourself why the wall won't come down, like I said earlier it's all in the hands of Arafat the chief terrorist. He needs to make a true commitment to peace and then they can have Palestine. The last polls in Israel showed that over 67% of the Israeli's support a Palestinian state. The fact is they are not going to get Palestine by force because they will be met by a greater force. They have tried going to war in 1967 and only succeeded in losing more land, now they have adopted terror and it's costing them land again.
Israel is not Sudan or Saudi Arabia where dialogue and compromise means nothing, all the Palestinians need do is throw out Arafat and the terrorist and Israel will have no other option than than to let them have their state. No responsible nation will let Hammas and Al Axsar establish a terrorist nation by their border.
Even if you throw Bush out of the white house, Kerry will still support Israel and veto that silly UN judgement when it comes to the security council.
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Daud: Your mail is so appetizing, appealing and has a lot of beef in it that I cant help than to return to this thread. I hope its the last.
Quote: ---------------------------- "...the resentment that you see against America today is not an Arab-Muslim/ Christian matter; it is coming from people and countries who loved America hoped in America.---Daud. ----------------------
That much I already said when I said in part, "...and to some extend some more accomodating christian countries...". To say that Bush is the MOST HATED American president in modern history will be an understatement.
Quote: ----------------------- "The entire world rallied around the US after September 11. Today,..." ----------------------
Ironically, Nwa Aro was one of those who wept and came on this board to condemn that distastful act of 11th September. Infact, from Russia up to Portugal, the entire European continent stood at still FOR DAYS (for weeks in some areas) in solidarity with the Americans. To be precise, right here in Germany, ALL TV stations had to put the purple ribbon sign on their screens for up to a month as a sign of respect for those dead. We did not stop there, most residents here (including muslims)went as far as standing at attention at the same hour on same following September month (2002) as another sign of being with our then American "friends".
Quote: ------------------------ "Bush has turned America into a rogue state hated around the world. The people that are fighting on the same side as the US in Afghanistan are the ones telling the world that Bush is the new Hitler who deserves the bloody eye he is getting in Iraq."---Daud. ----------------------
You are right on the money! What annoys most people (Nwa Aro included) about this sad turn of events is that if there was any American President who had the golden opportunity (provided by the sad events of 9.11) to UNITE the world, that person is George Bush Jr. That he misused that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and instead used it to cast aspiration at America's oldest allies and in the process divided and made our world MORE DANGEROUS shows that this Bush of a man does not deserve to be at the driver's seat of any nation, talkless of the only existing superpower. It is this poke-the-nose treatment Bush gave the world after the sympathy the world showed towards the U.S. after 9.11 that causes the type of hostile reception Bush receives whenever he comes to this side of the Atlantic. Unlike what some may think, I make bold to say that no European leader or organization calls those people out on the streets; just as no one told them to mourn with the Americans post 9.11.
On the "bloody eye he (Bush)is getting in Iraq," what is ironical about that is that its other peoples kids who are dying there. How I wish it was Bush's own children and CLOSE family members that were being slaughtered like chickens there.
On your reference about Biafra or the insertion of the word in every debate by some here, I also think it is more a diversionary tactic than it is made to discuss the issue as it ought to be discussed - openly, no-holdbared and with the pros and cons debated without the usaul name-calling. Besides, I am one of those on this board who has gone on record to call for issues to be discussed on its merits/demerits and SEPARATELY. That said, I still think one dont need to be a Biafran/Nigerian, or claim one to talk for justice and fairness IN GENERALITY. As an old member of this board, I say this without any apology to anyone, that this board should as it is be open to discuss EVERY issue...local and international. To do otherwise will be to make everyone here look like a Zombie. I'm sure that many on this board will agree with Nwa Aro on this score.
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Once again, the self-hating foot merchant of Arab militant orthodoxy has embarked on another ill-advised round of self-denials in the face of overwhelming contrary logic. Worse still, this Arab cultural fugitive has taken to blackmail and sought to use that as a lever to force a drastic acceptance of his Manichean postulations. The least you can expect from any reliable self-professing opponent of social, cultural, economic and religious hegemonic penchant is an unremitting condemnation of any societal ILL in any shape or form without due regards to the peculiarities of geography. Anything short of a transparent and systemic denunciation of societal ills without due regard to the egos which might be bruised would lead one to question the honesty, if not the consistency of such self-promoting fighters of injustice.
On the basis of this assertion therefore, one can perhaps begin to understand why a character that has consistently REFUSED TO CONDEMN THE HYDRA-HEADED MONSTER OF ISLAMIC EXTREMISM in different parts of the world may decide to take upon himself the self-deluding mantle of a budding, effervescent anti-western neo-revolutionary. Such callous selective criticism of societal injustice and the demonstrated disinclination in voicing (even if minimally) protestations against the injustices in his homeland are tell-tale indicators of pro-Arab, anti-African and Anti-Western demagoguery.
While no one is asking such narrow-minded personalities to become crusaders against all forms of global injustice, transparency demands that these vicarious self-appointed social critics specify in some form or fashion their acknowledgement of certain context-specific injustices especially when such have acquired some massive international exposure. In the absence of such willingness to condemn evil liberally—made more perplexing by the obvious proximity of such societal malaise—the responsibility now falls on the would-be listener to thoroughly weigh out his or her response to what can otherwise be properly described as a minimalist’s contorted, bigoted, self-serving agenda. This caution certainly does not come just because of such manifest xenophobic, self-righteous preachment—embodied by these dyed-in-the-wool opportunists—but that their impotent anti-western tirades in its familiar vicissitudinary contours altogether loses any meaningful rational appeal if they decide to be oblivious to their own peculiar political incoherencies.
For the record, let it be known that despite their quasi-populist appeal, this ever-ready critic of FOREIGN anomalies has predictably sought to cast exhortations to consistency in that hateful “Arab-Muslim/Christian” motif. Perhaps, he imagines that by mendaciously charging forumites of being pawns to a religious or ideological conflict, the ensuing sophistry might then stifle general and visible demands for clear, concise repudiation of the ills inherent in that distinctive brand of parochial, Arabocentric militant mode of conflict resolution.
The key to a new Palestinian state does not lie in Arafat’s unconditional embrace of terror. If anything, this strengthens the hands of Israelis and prompts disproportionately larger reprisal attacks. Israelis are not blind to the fact that these terror-groups that have functioned under and continued to garner Arafat’s consent, have as part of their ultimate goals the total extermination of the Jews in the Middle East. Even though majority of these Jews would like an end to the current impasse, they would however be grossly careless if they should succumb to the machinations of these outfits in and around the Palestinian settlements (and in other Arab states) whose policy of unguarded and unrelenting terror has effectively dampened, if not extinguished any resolve of a peaceful settlement to this crisis. As a matter of fact, the sooner Palestinians recognized this and stemmed the tide of irrational terror, the better their chances of shredding the veneer of American condonation of harsher acts that Israel might take to protect her citizens. I have said elsewhere that concerning the Israeli-Palestinian crisis, two wrongs cannot make a right. Under these conditions, MIGHT becomes RIGHT. If the rabid, warmongering and floundering Arafat shows that he is unwilling or incapable of reining in pro-terrorist fervor directed at the Jews, someone had better inform him that the mouthy, inconsequential support of some inept African governments, the pretentious umbrage of far-removed, culturally isolated Europeans or lengthy, diplomatic posturing at the UN will not stop Israeli unilateral and oft-disproportional retaliatory strikes. That is their right and it is inalienable. Facts on the ground will reveal that there are now competing militia groups in Palestine and they routinely attack each other. Perhaps, when this infighting stops and a serious renegotiation of their roles happen, we might begin to see a different Palestine. Until then, asking the Israelis to adopt a pacifist posture in the face of overwhelming hatred is delusion to put it mildly.
Let the partisan, self-negating, terror-supporting lackeys of the “Al-Dawud” variety raise their hollering and hooting to a deafening pitch. Some there are however, who will always point out their disgusting unwillingness to broadly condemn EVIL even as they go about ejaculating their well-worn Manichean, militant orthodoxy fictitiously garbed as conscientious diplomatic discourse.
quote:The message is very simple, if you attempt to cross that wall with bombs then you have sentenced yourself to "death by Apache". – chiboy
I’m loving the coinage and phraseology my brother I’m sure Arafat and Daud understand that much let me simplify; Cross – Death – Apache. So easy!
quote:You guys cannot expect people to take you guys serious when you either maintain DEAD silence or support when these atrocities happen in your neck of the wood in Nigeria, only to mount the pulpit to call for "justice" for others when it happens elsewhere. IT SIMPLY DONT MAKE SENSE. Nwa Aro
Nwa nnem, why even bother the quote below made all the points and sense there is;
quote:Daud, make reference to Sudan, your closest neighbor, dark skin like you, perhaps you could swallow your silly Arab pride for a change. I guess, it is all about religion, stupid! – Waypoint1Biafra
I wish this Daud and his evil co-travellers will realize how much Nwa Aro have tried to maintain balance by his numerous European flavored opinions most in favor of these arab terror monsters. Unlike the Moslem myopias who only see their islam (a gutter cult BTW) and others as we against them even when they’re the oppressors. Anything outside the parameters of this cult is enemy please visit here.
quote:Sadly, there appears to be a standing proposition by the majority on this board that we must all sink into the abyss that is Nigeria before one could discuss important international issues. Daud
Doesn’t “charity” as they say begin at home? What’s wrong with these terrorists and their inability to denounce violence that occur daily in their backyards which does not deserve attention simply because they’re in the drivers seat but turn the tides you hear all sorts. Listen up! The arab/moslem monsters have wreaked more havoc than the State of Israel would in any imaginable length. Waypoint1 and others challenged you to discuss issues as it relates to you vis-à-vis Sudan, nigeria and other African hot spots compliments of moslems. Know why no Israeli hater attempted to answer the points raised by the article I posted above? I’ll tell ya, truth a constant phenomenon that can never be contradicted that’s why no effort was made by you or any in your camp to deflect that article. It’s rock solid! Can’t be taken serious Daud and co until you begin to appreciate objective and balanced reasoning.
quote:The entire world rallied around the US after September 11. – Daud
And Palestinians celebrated it. Took Arafat a couple of days to realize this obvious “booboo” before his ill-advised PR move, which was too little too late. Dig? While you’re pondering the preceding words, make that the entire world with the exception of Islamic states, arabs/moslems rallied around the U.S. Could you name how many arab nations condemned in the strong terms the 9/11 cowardly murder of innocents, when and in what language other than “America brought 9/11 upon themselves” crap?
Please don’t even attempt a reply to mine the honorable members in the house are interested on the post of July 09, 2004 09:49 PM.
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