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Visit this SITE then tell us about islam again.
Is Islam truly a religion, if it is, is it a peaceful one? Personally I feel the only time they seek for peace is when they're subdued like the Israeli have demonstrated at other times their killers' instinct is displayed with bravado. Moslems all over the world love war as long as it's in their favor but when the tides turn all one hears is their screech for help. One is not saved even inside the Church but when cornered they run to the sanctuary of the Church for help. What a hypocritical cowardly thing to do, folks!
Don't take my words just visit the site above which by the way was setup by an ex Muslim there you’ll read all there is to know about this murderous cult.
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quote: Arab militias chained civilians together and set them on fire in Sudan's western Darfur region(christian?), where tens of thousands have been killed in a 17-month conflict, according to report by African Union monitoring team. The immolation came during a July 3 attack on the village of Suleia. - Chicago "Redeye" 7/30/04
People what in the world does "African Union monitoring team" mean for God's sake? If they witness these atrocious murderous rampages why no concrete actions are being taken? The moslems kill and maim whenever they find themselves in power but scream their lungs off when the tides are turned. Islam with all due (very small, real small) respect is truly a gutter religion(?) cult rather. Very destructive and should be banned for the interest of humanity and civilization. How I feel!
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Moslems are following the footsteps of Prophet Mohamammd (PBOH) who through violence (bows and arrows, machetes)spread Islam to all part of North Africa, Nothern Nigeria and parts of West Africa.
The Holy Koran does preach peace but moslems do not live by what it preaches.
Note: These are historical facts. Whoever is offended by this should blame history.
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How low can we get?. How animalistic can we be?. Islam, a religion of peace?, God, why are animals doing this in your name?. To what end?. For what purpose?
CAUTION: VIDEO IS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE. PLEASE EXCERCISE DISCRETIon.
NOTE: Out of respect for human life, and not wanting to be seen as aiding the spread of the idealogy of hate, i regret to announce that i am removing the link referred to above. Thanks
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NO! DO NOT REMOVE ANY LINKS. THE LINKS WERE CREATED BY CHRISTIANS LIKE YOU FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT OF CHRISTIANS WORLDWIDE. YOU AFRICAN SLAVES OF CHRISTENDOM MUST NOT SHY FROM THE VIOLENT OUTPUT OF YOUR RELIGION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE PICTURES OF CHRISTIAN BARBARITY ON DISPLAY? I AM TALKING ABOUT CRIMES BY YOUR POPES AND YOUR BISHOPS.
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Next time make a little sense. What's the rave about? Sick of the truth, huh? Ok, ok lemme try to put it across; you are expected to disprove the link or the article since we really don't give a rat s*h*i*t who created it whether Christians, Hindus, Pagans or dejected moslems. Although the latter are the authentic creator of that site www.faithfreedom.org. The info are unquestionably TRUE. There's even a challenge to you killers to deflect its contents and the site would be removed with a one-page apology to you guys, so?
By the way did mohammed kidnapp a six year old little girl named AISHA, then raped her three years later when she was only nine? Read your quran and drop the western bull jive you call islam you are forced into after your release from incarceration/prison.
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The website in question showed the videos of the actual beheadings carried out in Iraq, of the American, British, Turkish and other hostages, all in the name of Islam.
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Look here fella, your views towards this cult called islam convinced me that you are indeed a cool cat. I know in my mind of minds that you're a rational soul, so why don't you drop your Igbophobe and let the discussion proceed earnestly? Engage your Igbo neighbors with open mind answer their questions and let us remain neighborly. I couldn’t be asking for much, am I? It should not stop you from revealing to the readers any undemocratic maneuvers you may find against us and vice versa.
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quote:Look here fella, your views towards this cult called islam convinced me that you are indeed a cool cat. I know in my mind of minds that you're a rational soul, so why don't you drop your Igbophobe and let the discussion proceed earnestly? Engage your Igbo neighbors with open mind answer their questions and let us remain neighborly. I couldn’t be asking for much, am I? It should not stop you from revealing to the readers any undemocratic maneuvers you may find against us and vice versa.... MeBiafran
MeBiafran, It certainly takes a fertile mind to do what you just did. I am no Igbophobe and i write the way I do not because I do not see the merit in the Igbo cause. I only have some problems with the way such is being articulated. I am usually very reluctant to assail the Igbo question as non-existent, my style is to confront individuals and attempt to point out whatever i believe is wrong in their thesis and in doing that, i can avoid the pitfall of unfair generalization. Trust me, that i remain an active contributor to BNW inspite of all the friendly and not-too-friendly body blows shows that i will love to be counted on the side of Justice, Equity and Fairplay. You have not asked for too much and thanks for giving me an easy way out of my own dilemma.
In the same vein, i have no problem with Islam but the manner of interpretation is really cast it in bad light.
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If I insulted you personally in the past just let it go dude. obasanjo stretched my remaining patience to her limits, which necessitated me to lash out in anger even as I use derogatory words against you; deep down I knew you're a prepared mind. I am aware that as educated men we are required or expected to write in a particular manner, civil. We (all) loose certain amount of respect when we go against this basic paradigm to dish abusive words on one another but as my Igbo folks would say, "kpam butere chim" loosely, something caused some to go wrong.
quote: I am no Igbophobe and i write the way I do not because I do not see the merit in the Igbo cause. I only have some problems with the way such is being articulated. - addy
It sure feels wonderful to know that you are not, Igbophobe I mean and you shouldn't. In fact no one should because the Igbo propagation is about the advancement of the black race beyond the set or expectations of the western world. If this advancement comes by way of parting ways from the Lugard experiment so be it. It would not end established friendships or relationships that people already enjoy. Am I to hate my in-law just because Odua or Biafra nations were created? Of course not!
Regarding the problem you have with the way we advance our course, I guess you mean the way we come down hard on folks. Please correct me if this is not what you have in mind. addy, trust me on this one aiight, our anger could be traced all the way to the way and method of governance of that nation since 1970. We also feel the truth about what caused the so-called war is being smoldered by the nigerian machine. Most times as you would agree we cite supporting references to buttress our position or disprove others who peddle lies and innuendos and what do we get? More scorn. How about the present administration, how about that for a democracy? This writer would just as conveniently trash an Igbo/Biafran president whose performance is as abyss as this wicked aremu who single handedly killed Bola Ige for no goddamn reason. If the question is whether or not I HATE aremu obasanjo I guess the answer won't be long in coming. Gosh I do!!
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MeBiafran: Once again, thanks for the maturity beyond reproach. I really understand your passion for righting the wrongs of the past. I am squarely in the same boat with you. When i thanked you for helping me out of my own dilemma, what i meant is this: It is difficult to believe in one thing and at the same time write against it, it really took its toll. I believe in the Biafra of human emancipation, i subscribe to the Biafra of equality and civil justice, i stand for the biafra of zero tolerance for corruption, nepotism, deliberate underdevelopment, trust me, i am a strong advocate of the biafra of not reaping where you do not sow. I have not said all of the above in order to gain trust because after all is said and done, i will remain a Yoruba man who is imperfect but one who will stay guided by the principles enumerated above. Such principles as guide the Fawehinmis, the Beko-Kutis, the Falanas, and the Ndubuisi Kanus of this world.
Lastly, if separation is delayed in coming, it is my sincere hope that no Obasanjo will ever emerge from the ranks of Igbo to lead our Country. It hurts, really does!
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Thanks for your friendship. Your articulations above really captured what BIAFRA is about to us and based on that you are too a BIAFRAN. Lol. See, there’s nothing wrong whatsoever for using that noun to describe one. BIAFRA is all about democracy, which as you know has been defined as thus, government of, by and for the PEOPLE. That’s what the Igbo have craved for something we enjoyed even as the war raged on.
Back to the topic of this thread, based on our experience with our Islamic neighbors I risk say that hell would freeze over tenfold before any of those ideas you stated above are established and enforced in the present and future nigeria. There’s no change in the horizon, no hope simple! We should not forget these guys are driven by their feudalistic culture, conquering is their pastime as history attests. The offensive use of the word “TERROR” appeared in their Quran 83 times. Mind you they enforce all the Quranic teachings to the last bit. If they don’t we wouldn’t be in discussion of this subject now as such my proposal is for the moderates, so-called, to reform this cult or come out to seriously speak against the ones that use the Quran as a back-up for committing these vile acts, terrorism. I believe personally that humanity has gone beyond blindly following a flawed document put together by a STARK ILLITERATE.
I expect grown folks to ask basic questions about certain things in that document and if it does not make sense why enforce that part that raises doubt? As a Christian trust me I don’t have to believe in something simply because the pastor preached that in Church. The most common of the things I disagree with being tilth or ten percent scam, which by the way is found in the same Old Testament the pastors run from when the topic of “eye for an eye” is brought up. My beef with the constant demand for ten percent of one’s income is due to what I read in the same bible about the “widow’s might” that has since been abandoned by the scam artists that use the Holy Book to fleece naïve worshippers. Most times I let common sense and science with a little prayer to the Master Architect of the universe, the Chief Warden, GOD guide me not some fly-by pastor.
The Moslems on the other hand believe line, hook and sinker all the junk they are told by inams who in most cases are illiterates. I’ll like an ardent Moslem to tell us why death is proscribed in their Quran for a convert from Islam to other religion? What the hell for? Why do one draw the anger of the Moslems whenever the truth about the Quran is told? Even citing supportive verses to help one’s point irks these guys as if you made the claim up. As I write I have received over 37 virus attacks based on exercising my constitutionally guaranteed opinion to say a lot is wrong with Islam. It’s not remotely close to peace. Now don’t we see how difficult it would be to have this “one nigeria” continue? In a democracy you are free to express any and all opinions with no hold barred and this my friends make the Moslems in nigeria a special case that need a special country of their own where they could continue the killing and maiming of people at will.
When Moslems have the upper hand here’s what Mohammed wants them to do:
047:035. Pickthall: So do not falter and cry out for peace when ye (will be) the uppermost, and Allah is with you, and He will not grudge (the reward of) your actions
Palmer: Then faint not, nor cry for peace while ye have the upper hand; for God is with you and will not cheat you of your works!
Rodwell: Be not fainthearted then; and invite not the infidels to peace when ye have the upper hand: for God is with you, and will not defraud you of the recompense of your works.
Sale: Faint not therefore, neither invite [your enemies] to peace, while ye [are] the superior: For God [is] with you, and will not defraud you of [the merit of] your works.
Yusuf Ali: Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for God is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds.
Shakir: And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught.
Sher Ali: So be not slack and sue not for peace, for you will, certainly, have the upper hand. And ALLAH is with you, and HE will not deprive you of the reward of your actions.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir of 47:35: So do not lose heart and beg for peace while you are superior. Allah is with you and He will never deprive you of (the reward of) your deeds.)
Quranic/Mohammedian punishments/treatments for Unbelievers:
And slay them wherever ye catch them - 2:191.
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah - 3:28.
And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers - 4:141.
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter - 5:33.
I will instill terror[like in terrorist/terrorism?] into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them - 8:12.
It is not ye who slew them[unbelievers]; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself - 8:17.
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly - 8:60.
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem - 9:5.
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers - 9:14.
O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque - 9:28.
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued - 9:29.
Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least - 9:39.
O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell an evil refuge indeed - 9:73.
These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord) for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning! - 22:19-22.
Bring ye up, it shall be said, “The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire! - 37:22-23.
Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens - 47:4.
And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! - 48:13.
Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, which none do eat but those in sin - 69:30-37.
We should therefore look for an amiable way out of that contusion, nigeria. As long as they believe in Islam peace would be hard to achieve, folks. There are no peaceful Islamic societies anywhere in the world. None!
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quote:Originally posted by addy: MeBiafran: I am squarely in the same boat with you.
I hate to be the one barging into this love fest without invitation, but if anyone believes the quotes above, I've got this "oceanfont property in Arizona..."
quote:I believe in the Biafra of human emancipation, i subscribe to the Biafra of equality and civil justice, i stand for the biafra of zero tolerance for corruption, nepotism, deliberate underdevelopment, trust me, i am a strong advocate of the biafra of not reaping where you do not sow.
Until the next thread that is.
For a minute there I thought I was reading the "I have a dream" speech all over again
At this rate, and as his tenure draws closer to an end, one may now expect even Aremu to begin the transformation into a human rights activist, right up there with Gani.
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quote:...one may now expect even Aremu to begin the transformation into a human rights activist, right up there with Gani.
Chief that is! Abracadabra and presto! Chief human rights advocate,GFCR, ABCD,(PBUH), EFG, Former president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria: Matthew Aremu Okikiolakan Epa-po-l'apo Obasanjo.
I sincerely do believe addy when he said "I believe in the Biafra of human emancipation, i subscribe to the Biafra of equality and civil justice, i stand for the biafra of zero tolerance for corruption, nepotism, deliberate underdevelopment, trust me, i am a strong advocate of the biafra of not reaping where you do not sow."
Every one of us have written in anger at one time or the other, which may wrongly distort the person we are in the real sense. I'm smiling as I write this because if any of these fellas run into me they did loose their minds to find I'm jolly goodtime old school Biafran. A different message than intended is conveyed most times with writing unlike in person conversation.
Please join me to believe addy. He's been consistent with his denunciation of obasanjo's junta for starters. He laid the blame for obasanjo’s renaissance to power right on our doorstep and he’s right. If we had remained stubborn against the emergence of this wicked man in 1999 nigeria would have been saved. BTW: I was in nigeria then I am probably the only one who was madly against his candidacy. The excuse then was to do anything to see the end of military rule but I never subscribed to this nonsense. Please, please let it be. Nde ewo/welcome.
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My brother I salute you too. I hear you all the way. Addy an' me go way back.
Me'n him? We laik dis
Anyway,
Your research on Islam is definitely something. I am Catholic, so we have more than our own share of skeletons in the closet, besides the fact that I go out of my way to avoid discussing religion, especially other peoples own.
Listening to public radio sometime ago, I heard a Palestinian youth who had been arrested by Israeli soldiers after having botched a suicide bombing attempt explain some reasons for his actions.
One of his reasons was that he had become disillusioned with his lot in this world given the ruin that surrounded him as daily a way of life. I truly felt for him. Another reason was that he intended to move on to the next life to take possession of his 72 virgins.
I am definitely not steeped in the Quran as you are, even though I used to own one given me by a Pakistani classmate who wanted to convert me in the 80's, however I got to thinking about that promise to matyrs of Jihad, and I could'nt help wondering about those 72 virgins waiting up there.
I wondered if and when all 72 virgins had been duly disvirgined, if the hymen would heal and revirginate, whereupon the disvirgining process would once more resume in a perpetual cycle of eternally blissful sex?
I wondered how the Islamic heaven could thus be defined; would the individual maintain its physical body ready for the ensuing physical sexuality, or would the individual only exist as a soul with thoughts devoid of sexual corruption?
As a Catholic with our own inordinate share of victimhood to mockery, and notwithstanding the intolerance with which I recieve that mockery from friends in other denominations, I couldnt honestly abstain from entertaining those questions as I thought of that young man.
I thought and thought about that young man, and wondered whether he had bothered to ask those questions of the imams sending him and others to their untimely doom, via jihad.
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I do once in a while let Mazi Peter read some of your bombardments just as you acknowledged his grammar construction and finesse, he too commends yours highly and you are both right. I am the junior in this arena but that’s fine. We all have our talents. When Mazi Opara read yours sometimes back, he was like... WOW!
Focus: A major and glaring contrast between Catholism or any other Christian religion and islam is that we acknowledge the discrepancies found in the bible. We do not enforce those verses, which preached hate or disunity. Unlike the moslems who heartily embrace those wicked verses of the trash they call quran. Someone said it better when he reminded us that the edicts given to Joshua and the one to Moses to slay Egyptians first born was directly to them and not binding on us.
If the same instruction was given to a moslem it did be the responsibility of all moslems to continue to kill first born of their enemies even today. A major, major as they say in the dark land, nigeria. They wouldn’t mind carrying out orders given to Hindus as long as that order is to kill a non-moslem or Igbo. Pathetically sad is how I would describe them! moslems are sad news and they know it hence their attempt to always mislead fools who buy into their nonsense. No, let them tell us what part of the quran they ignore. This is the only thing that would allay my concerns. Not fear, ever.
Most times out of naivety they think we are afraid of them not realizing that the upper hand they enjoy is due to the stupidity of that pigeon land, the kaikai/ekpetechi - local gin of a country. How come they don't make "phiam" in western countries, I mean how come none of they dares approach me on the streets of Chicago to rant B.S. around this Igboman rrrrrrrrright here? I bet I'll knock him cold out before he opens his upper.
Mazi Ukaobasi, the type of rage that goes through my spine each time I discuss these guys is of 9/11 proportion. What in the world is a refinary doing in fucking Kaduna, what?? These motherfuckers for donkey years have ruined a beautiful country with their backward cult and sheer idiocy yet no one is smart amongst them to say to the rest wait a freaking minute, just hold it pal; the rest of the tribes also have a stake in this accident they call a country.
In the mid 90s when I moved to that eyesore believe me this Biafran was talking a whole lotta junk right in their faces and this was during abacha’s misrule. Man! I was armed to the teeth and every so often I would visit some pals in Surulere there I would empty say sixteen rounds of 9mm in the air. Trust me I did.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PEACEFUL ABOUT ISLAM AND THE EARLIER WE QUIT THE PC (Political Correctness) BULLCRAP THE BETTER FOR MANKIND!!!
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I have nothing against muslims but i know Islam is not a peaceful anything.Islam had never and shall never believe in the nobleness of a peaceful coexistence with any religion whatsoever.
Islam is just a another cult that uses brainwashing and violence as second nature to forge on.From Nigeria to Pakistan to Indonesia to Iran to Chechnia, Show me any country in the whole wide world with a large population of muslims that have been a haven of peace or tolerance for other peoples` religion? I am aware the Nazis equally claimed their party was a peaceful movement.Infact,In Nuremburg court,Air Marshal Herman Goerring (Hitler`s deputy) even claimed the "final solution" was only meant to afford the Jews some "protective custody" by the party.Well,six million innocent people died in that unsolicited "protective custody".Take a statistics of the number of human beings who have been slaughtered one way or another in the name of this Professed peaceful religion,then It wouldn`t take a genius to figure out the true nature of this suppossedly peaceful religion.
quote:Hajj: 17 Nigerians Die in S/Arabia 01.28.2005 - Thisday.
17 Nigerian pilgrims to this year's muslim holy pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia died during the hajj rites.
According to a news item monitored on the NTA, the deceased included three international pilgrims and 14 other ordinary ones.
Anwul Hajji and deputy Senate President, Alhaji Ibrahim Mantu who addressed Nigerians pilgrims in the holy land commended them for their good conduct throughout the hajj period.
Also, the airlines involved in the airlift of pilgrims have assured Mantu that by February 17 all the pilgrims would have returned to Nigeria.
How dumb can one be to always put himself in harm's way? These guys never get it, every year they go to a growded village only to get trampled. Boy! awusa na wa!
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How dumb can someone be to be pouring libation to demonic idol fetish-gods, superstitiously calling upon their names while breaking some silly nut?
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Yam head, let's say islam is a GUTTER bulls.h.i.t The religion you practice is full of vile and senseless acts.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Brother, I can't tell you how glad I am to hear others speak the things I've known for so long. This cult of Islam sickens me and I would gladly give my life to rid humanity of their ilk. And yet there are some amomg them that are good people, but I think they are they are few. And if they remain in this cult of violence and hypocrisy, they too will become like the rest. I wish the world was rid of this hateful scourge.
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