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Class less fellow no doubt, can you believe the GOP in Illinois has gone all the way to Maryland to bring this shameless fellow just to come and play spoiler in the senate race!!! Needless to say he is going to get spanked by Obama. How I wish the arch racist millionaire Jim Oberweis agreed to take up the challenge, I would love to have seen him humbled by the son of an immigrant. Shameless Keyes interviews for Illinois seatPosts: 1532 | From: USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Alan Keyes is the African American Don Quixote of the GOP. Keyes is a man who enjoys to hear himself speak, even when he knows that people, including Blacks, who once considered him "eloquent," now see him as nothing but cannon-fodder for Black anger against White racists.
Notwithstanding the questionable nature of Barack Obama's Africanness or even his African-Americanness, the worst that the GOP could do at this time is further burnish the Obama myth by sending a house slave to challenge him.
My Party can do better than that.
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It would be a shame for Alan Keyes to stoop so low to be the pawn against the up and coming Obama. Alan Keyes has contested twice for the senate seat in Maryland where he officially resided and lost, and he must be visually impaired not to see the handwriting on the wall that the train of Obama is on a non-stop journey to Washington.
Ten Alan Keyes cannot stop this Obama train and if they stand in the path of this express train they will be crushed and the train will move on.
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The man is a he goat! He will surely be disgraced making himself a laughing stock.
He should ask JC Watt the Jnr Rep ( or was he senator?) from Oklahoma. The fela was the so called "rising star" of the GOP for awhile.
....then all of a sudden he had to leave to take care of "family issues" that are more important than his political career!
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Arguably the most peaceful statement I have read on this board all week. Welcome aboard!
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I am on the ground this Keyes of a guy by the time all is said but the crying wouldn't know what hit him. Of course by this time his Greedy Old Pigs (kidding), republican 'friends’ would've bailed like wind to abandon his ass.
Damian, you're right Republicans could've done much, much better than they did by picking a "house slave" as stated by chiboy, which BTW I totally agree with.
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It is nice to hear TRUE REPUBLICAN like DAMIAN acknowledge the fact that Republican Party could do better.
What the republican party is doing here is classic playing RACE CARD. They tried all the white poeple and got turned down, then it was, find a black(uncle Tom)person to challenge this upcoming star of the Democratic Party.
Well, like a few of you have stated, Keyes will get behind whipped so bad that he will go into depression. If keyes is smart(which he is not)he should turn the offer down.
Nobody in the Repulican party will defeat Obama in the Senatorial Race .....Keyes and Republican party take note.
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Why don't we hold our breath until Alan Keyes announces Sunday that he is in to square it off with the bright and charming young Barack Obama in the senate race?
If Keys should declare his candidacy on Sunday since he requested for time to think about it when Republican leaders asked him yesterday to go for it, I think it would make a very fascinating and interesting election campaign--two blacks, one of eloquence and the other of charm--drawing more national attention.
The quetion here now is, based on Africanism, who is more African, and who is more likely to address African issues and have things done for Africans--Keyes or Obama? And what are Obama's credentials in community service? What has he done for blacks as state senator? Put politics aside, let's just be objective and realistic regardless of party affiliation.
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You are all terribly wrong in your reasoning. Alan Keyes is a registered Republican and Obarma, a Democrat. Why wouldn't the Republican sought the best viable candiate for the job, white or black? Why is that when a Black man is a Republican, he is uncle Tom, house 'N', a pawn and all the misfit names? Why should African Americans think alike or belong to one party? If the GOP is such a bad party, how do you guys fit to affect a change? Are black people comfortable with stereo types, they think l alike and are clusters of one party? Is the Democratic party now Black Party? A black republicans is against welfare Moms, prefer them for employment, he is a house "N" or Uncle Tom. Tuffiakwa.
Obarma made a non partisan speech and appealed to all Americans and at the end chosed Kerry as the next President. Has any Black Republican referred to him as Unlce Tom, House "N" or pawn?
Why do you guys cry baby? For the first time in the history of this country, an African American is the Secretary of the state and National Security Advisor. The two most highest cabinet positions in the nation. When you talk of GW. say good things that this man has done for the country not dwell on bad things. It takes more than your Nigerian leadership to be the President of a free world. It takes more than hardwork. GW is a hardworking Prsidernt that cares about America and the people. Between GW and Kerry, most American will chose GW for a cup of coffee and fishing. GW,is approachable and can strike a conversation with an average man than your Kerry. I hope you guys copy and chill for a sec.
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It's official! Alan Keyes will run against Barack Obama `` Chicago Sun-Times
quote:Keyes promises Republicans he'll run August 6, 2004 BY SCOTT FORNEK Political Reporter Buckle your seat belts. Former presidential hopeful Alan Keyes has told Illinois Republicans that he will take on Democratic Senate nominee Barack Obama -- setting the stage for a three-month debate between two gifted, Harvard-educated orators from opposite ends of the political spectrum.
Members of the Republican State Central Committee insisted the former radio and television commentator from Maryland make the promise before they would vote to offer him the nomination Wednesday night, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times on Thursday.
"So he went back into the room and basically said, 'If you offer, I will accept,' " said a source close to the negotiations.
The 19-member committee was worried about another embarrassment in its tortured efforts to find a replacement for Jack Ryan, who stepped down amid allegations he once took his wife to sex clubs, the source said.
"There was a significant bloc that said, 'We want him, but we don't know that he'll take it if we offer it to him, and we've made such a mess of this over the last five weeks that, God forbid, we offer it to him and he turns it down,'" the source said.
Another GOP source said Keyes agreed to accept the nomination but told the committee he wanted to wait until he could publicly announce it at a "campaign-style rally" Sunday.
"He told them he would do it," the source said. "He just wanted to take a few days to put things together and make his announcement." A Keyes confidant would not confirm the reports. "Alan made very clear to the Illinois Republican Party leaders last night that he was taking their offer with the utmost seriousness and the full intent to explore fully exactly what the implications would be," said Bill Pascoe, who is helping Keyes during the talks.
State Sen. Dave Syverson, a panel member who was Keyes' champion before the group, insisted there was no agreement, saying Keyes wanted to talk first to House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, outgoing GOP Sen. Peter Fitzgerald -- whose seat is at stake -- and Virginia Sen. George Allen, the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
"Oh, I think he'll do it," Syverson said of Keyes. "I think he said he felt pretty confident but said he would not make any final decisions until he talked to those leaders." Hastert denied a Sun-Times report that he spoke to the committee or Keyes about the nomination Wednesday.
"I didn't push for this," Hastert said. "I wasn't involved. Never talked to Keyes. Never talked to any of the state central committeemen. Nobody."
Hastert said Keyes could energize Downstate voters and serve as a "counterveiling force" to Obama, who has "one of the most liberal records of anybody that's ever served in the Illinois Senate."
"Would I have chosen another person? Maybe so. But the people I worked on, I couldn't get to run in the first place." The Plano Republican said he tried to recruit everyone from state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger to former Chicago Bear Gary Fencik to radio personality Orion Samuelson. "I talked to even Mike Ditka, which probably after talking to him probably was a wise decision that he didn't run," Hastert said. Keyes wound up with two-thirds of the central committee's weighted vote. He then stood with the 19-member panel and state GOP Chairwoman Judy Baar Topinka to tell reporters he was "deeply honored" that the committee made the offer, but he needed to give it "deep and serious and committed deliberation."
If Keyes follows through on the promise he made behind closed doors, it would be the first statewide contest in the nation in which each major party fielded a black nominee. "Barack Obama . . . was quoted [after the primary] as talking about the Lincoln-Douglas debates and that he thought it would be a worthy thing for the senatorial candidates to have seven debates," said Dennis Wiggins, a member of the state central committee. "He may wish that he had not said that because I don't think Keyes will be afraid to debate him. I think Keyes will handle him very well in a debate." Sen. John Corzine (D-N.J.), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said the selection of Keyes shows how "desperate" Illinois Republicans are to find someone to face Obama.
"It shows how difficult it is for anyone to come up with a competitive alternative," Corzine said. "It shows how desperate folks are to come up with a candidate that they are looking outside the boundaries of the state." Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs brushed aside news that Keyes was expected to accept the nomination at a rally Sunday. "Are they busing people in from Maryland?" he asked. Contributing: Lynn Sweet, Chris Fusco
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There is nothing wrong in black contesting against black in a political race, but when the underlining purpose of this Keyes vs Obama contest is critically analyzed, the result cannot be far fetched to see the gimmick being played out by the Illinois Republicans. It amount to self deceit on the part of those of us who are pretending not to see the picture of this scenario for what it is.
quote:And what are Obama's credentials in community service? - Ojoto
Great question and yes he's positively imparted the lives of every day people here in Illinois hence the popularity he seems to be enjoying. Don't forget he's been ahead of all the polls since the end of the primaries. He not Keyes would give his listening ears to the issues as relates to African Americans. Here in Illinois he was the sole sponsor of a bill that requires all murder suspect's interrogations be video taped based on the unbalanced and wrongful convictions of blacks in death cases.
“Obama’s legislative records on education and health care are impressive as well. He has consistently advocated increased spending for public schools in an attempt to bring more qualified teachers to low-income school districts. Obama co-sponsored successful legislation this session to limit tuition increases and maintain state scholarships. Senator Obama is not only the chief sponsor of an amendment to the Illinois Constitution that would require health care coverage for all its citizens, but he has also led efforts to improve women’s healthcare by forcing insurance companies to cover mammograms and contraceptives.”More on OBAMA
quote:For the first time in the history of this country, an African American is the Secretary of the state and National Security Advisor. The two most highest cabinet positions in the nation. - Waypoint1Biafra
And we know who the real power behind the policies are, we know who GW listens to, Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld that's who not Powel & Rice. Please don't let the appointments of blacks to those offices deceive you. I read somewhere how Ms. Rice was not privy to certain meetings that occurred prior to the illegal invasion. My beef with most blacks in the republican party is their position to scrap the same affirmative action which benefited them. Do you as a guy knowing how we relate to the females we're close with at work, believe clarence thomas when he denied ever using words with sexual connotations around Anita Hill?
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Alan Keyes will run for US Senate in Illinois where he has never lived that is a fact. If anyone recall, Keyes once called Hillary Clinton a carpetbagger for running for Senate in New York now he(keyes) is doing the same thing.
Amazingly how these Republicans flip flop when it works to their favor.
The Keyes candidacy raises questions about the race factor. Keyes is strongly against affirmative action and any race based preferences. So it makes you wonder why he doesn't have a problem with the GOP picking him because he's black.
Anyhow - I'm predicting that an African American will win this senate seat - and by African American I'm talking about someone who actually comes from Africa.
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What makes Barack Obama more African than Alan Keys? Politics sef! It's amazing!
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quote:What makes Barack Obama more African than Alan Keys? Politics sef! It's amazing! - Ojoto
Barack Obama's real and authentic father was east African, Kenyan to be exact whereas Keyes only claim to that continent is his dark skin. Barack has been to the country of his origin whereas Keyes probably spends his vacations in Paris, Japan, China etc. Satisfied?
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I really did not want to answer Ojoto's question because I was of the opinion that he was joking around but having given it a second thought, I have come to the conclusion that he really does not know as such needs to be educated.
Ojoto,
Barack is more African than Keyes because he was born Kenyan and American by birth. When your parents are from a paricular country them migrated to another country any children born to that parent is automatically a citizen of the parent origin while acquiring citizenship by birth from the country which they were born.
Take my kids for example, I tell them that they are all Biafrans and Americans by birth. I hope that you are telling your kids that they are from Ojoto in Biafra?
I bet you even tough Barack's father is dead, his birth right are being saved for him by his grand parents and kingmen is Kenya.
Alen Keyes can't say as much. Can Keyes tell us what part of Africa his father is from? I bet you he can't because his father is not from Africa.
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Alan Keyes is very misguided if the reports that he claimed that he would be a better candidate based on his heritage are indeed true. I will like to think that Africans or African-Americans have matured to the extent that they can be trusted to elect representatives based on qualification, devotion or achievement. I find the topic that asks which of these two candidates is blacker, more Negroid or more African-American very, very unhealthy.
I think it will be better if Barrack Obama supporters do not let themselves be ensnared into such empty debates. In fact, Obama should not stoop so low to answer or even debate these silly enquiries. The proper focus should be on the qualification or achievements of these two senatorial aspirants. This is because debates on what constitutes “Africanness” or “blackness” have no unifying or edifying value to the BLACK (i.e. Africans and African-Americans) segment of the population to which they are trying to draw votes from.
Let us spin it this way. Since Democrats drafted Hillary Clinton to run for NewYork’s senatorial seat, despite republican protests that she was not from NewYork and FELT NO QUALMS ABOUT THAT POLITICAL PLAY, then automatically they lose the right to cry foul here. By the way, if people are politically adept, they would see that nowadays, political parties only field players they believe have the greater chance to win the election. This explains why the Democrats chose Hillary Clinton then. Why did no democrat make noise then that the Democratic Party chose another Caucasian (and not a Latino, an Asian or a Black) to run against the Republican Caucasian? How come now that the republicans have done exactly the same thing that the Democrats once pulled out of their playbook everyone cries foul? Is this a case of double standards?
I think that ultimately the joke is upon black people. If I were Alan Keyes, I would not have accepted to run against Obama. This is because Obama is at that point in his career where he is loved by all. Not even white senatorial aspirants will defeat this young man the way I see it. Listen, like I said earlier, campaigners for Obama and Keyes should focus on sharing their achievements and then allow the people to decide. If Black people become so naïve as to tear their heritage and unity apart (by this silly “who is blacker” refrain) for a measly senatorial seat in Illinois, I am sure you know the subset of the population that would be chuckling to themselves from the sidelines!
MeBiafran:
Please do not try to paint Obama as more “African/Black” that Keyes. This is not really important here. You will detract from all the fine points you have been making so far. How do you judge “Africanness/Blackness” sef? I am sure you know that Obama’s mother is a WHITE AMERICAN from Kansas. I suppose you also know that Keyes parents were BOTH African-Americans. How then are you calling these shots?
NwaBiafra:
On what principle are you operating here? Barrack Obama is really only HALF-AFRICAN, if you want to work with biological and genetic principles here. His mother is a WHITE woman. Obama was born in Hawaii, an American state (not Africa) and raised in the contiguous United States, and therefore you cannot make any claim that he is inherently more African. How is he more African than Keyes? Is it his upbringing or what? Alan Keyes parents were BOTH people of African descent (negroes or blacks) and it doesn’t matter if they are African-Americans or from the Carribeans. Why? These are descendants of BLACK AFRICANS who due to the unfortunate history of slave trade have found themselves in other parts of the world.
Listen, this “Who is more African” argument is not helping this discussion at all least of all your side of the debate. It would be better to focus on something else. Don’t fall for the trap that the Keyes’ camp is setting.
Please do not try to paint Obama as more “African/Black” that Keyes. This is not really important here. You will detract from all the fine points you have been making so far.
Not trying to distract buddy, I attempted an honest explanation to Ojoto. My only beef with this, excuse my french, animal called Keyes is unlike Hilary Clinto who jumped in the NY senatorial race from get go, Keyes reminds me of Arnold Swanegger or whatever. Why now for Keyes considering he would loose and loose big?
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If you think you are going to see strident support for Alan Keyes from a genuine conservative like me, you are mistaken. Elsewhere, I made my thougts about Keyes known. Keyes is an African American efulefu. No amount of victimhood rhetoric will change that.
You should listen to Anaedo's admonitions and drop this "I am more African than thou" drivel. We all know that Obama Sr. abandoned his son when the lad was only two-years old, very unAfrican, if you ask me. Don't start a fight on this African thing that you cannot win. Obama was raised in a white household. Thus, his father was merely an African sperm donor to a non-African bloodline. In response to Keyes's racial taunting, Obama was careful not to take the silly bait. That is why he will handily beat the Marylander.
It is a huge shame that at a time when William F. Buckley (the Godfather of modern conservatism) is openly stating that the war in Iraq was a mistake, and he would not have supported the war knowing what he knows now, your candidate considers it politically expedient to continue deluding himself on that issue; Kerry must be the only Democrat who would initiate the Iraq debacle, given what we know now.
This may be a good time to ask you the same question that Kerry slobbered over. Did you support Bush's misadventure in Iraq? If so, or as a hypothetical, would you have supported the war, given what you know now? For that matter, what is Obama's position on this war issue?
Remember, Obama will not be the first Black US senator to come from Illinois. The question is: will he go the way of that Abacha supporter Carol Mosley Braun, who only managed one-term in the US Senate?
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How right you were about Alan Keyes being another Don Quixote, now he is calling for reparations for the "descendants of slaves". Notice the distinction in his demand (descendants of slaves), he has been using this slave heritage issue to try and descredit Obama in the black community. Only last week at Chicago's famous Bud Billigan parade he claimed Obama was not authentic African American being born of an African father.Many on the parade route refused to shake hands with Keyes and openly called him names.
If Keyes claims he is not playing the race card, then Bill O'reilly is definetly not a conservative. I have taken time to listen to Keyes and beyond talking about abortion and family values the man has nothing to say about the pressing issues of jobs and health care in his supposed constituency. Strange that a man who rose to fame opposing civil rights will now be calling for reparations. I am convinced Keyes is only in Illinois to play spoiler, what a shame.
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Still Crazy After All These Years By John K. Wilson, AlterNet Posted on August 16, 2004, Printed on August 25, 2004
The new Illinois candidate for the U.S. Senate, conservative Republican Alan Keyes, may be most famous for a liberal act: jumping into a mosh pit while Rage Against the Machine performed, body-surfing the crowd, and exchanging body slams with a spiky-haired teen as a means of getting filmmaker Michael Moore's endorsement for president in 2000. As Moore put it, "We knew Alan Keyes was insane. We just didn't know how insane until that moment."
"Insane" is an adjective that may be tossed around a lot regarding Keyes because he has been saying a lot of kooky things for a long time. Mostly, his extremist ideas have been overlooked. In the 1996 and 2000 Republican presidential contests, no candidate saw Keyes as a threat or wanted to risk criticizing one of the few prominent African-American Republicans around.
Last week, Keyes accepted the Republican nomination to run against the Democratic nominee Barack Obama — and immediately railed against Obama’s support of abortion rights. Abortion is Keyes' number-one issue: He wants a total ban, with an exception only as a "collateral and unintended consequence" of saving a woman's life (not the health of a woman, rape, or incest). In 2002, he said, "This issue alone, which I believe dominates our moral decline as a people, should decide this and every election cycle.”
In a May 7 speech in Provo, Utah, Keyes said the 9/11 attacks, which killed nearly 3,200 people, were a message from God to oppose abortion: "I think that's a way of Providence telling us, 'I love you all; I'd like to give you a chance. Wake up! Would you please wake up?'" During a campaign appearance in Bedford, N.H., in 2000, Keyes asked a class of fifth-graders, "If I were to lose my mind right now and pick one of you up and dash your head against the floor and kill you, would that be right?" He then went on to tell the children that some courts and politicians think it's OK to murder 6-month-old children.
Keyes has an apocalyptic view of America's future unless it repents: "I do stay up at night thinking about what's going to happen to America. I do stay up at night with a vision of our people in conflict, of our cities in flames, of our economy in ruins."
A history of failures
Born in 1950, with a career-military father, Keyes was elected president of Boys Nation in high school, met President Lyndon Johnson, and spoke to the American Legion in Dallas. He avoided the draft in the late 1960s thanks to student deferments and a high draft number. Keyes attended Cornell University, where his favorite teacher was legendary conservative Allan Bloom. Keyes spent a year studying in Paris with Bloom, then followed him to Harvard, where Keyes earned his doctorate in government. A fan of J.R.R. Tolkien and a Trekkie, he plays classical guitar and even considered a career as an opera singer. Lately, his version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow,” sung for a local TV camera, has been making the rounds on the Internet.
In 1978, as part of the State Department Foreign Service policy-planning staff headed by Paul Wolfowitz, who is now a key foreign-policy and defense adviser to Bush, Keyes was the black face used by the Reagan administration to oppose economic sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa. Keyes also worked as a low-level diplomat at the U.S. Consulate General in Bombay, India, where he met Jeane Kirkpatrick. When she became the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations under Reagan, she hired Keyes in 1983. Keyes spent two years as U.S. representative to the United Nations Economic and Social Council (UNESCO).
In 1988, when Kirkpatrick was approached to run for the U.S. Senate in Maryland, she demurred, suggesting Keyes instead, and a conservative star was born, albeit a losing conservative star.
Keyes lost to Democratic U.S. Sen. Paul Sarbanes with a respectable 38 percent of the vote. By 1992, when Maryland voters got to know him better, his support dropped to a mere 29 percent against a bonafide liberal, Barbara Mikulski. During that campaign, Keyes paid himself an annual salary of $100,000 from campaign funds, then refused to pay off his campaign's $45,000 debt. He later paid off his Senate-campaign debts, but, according to Federal Election Commission records, he owes nearly $525,000 from his failed presidential bids.
Obama's campaign juggernaut scared away many other candidates, but Keyes isn't afraid to lose — his previous losses have always paid off in other ways.
Keyes' failed 1988 Senate campaign led to a job running Citizens Against Government Waste (1989-91) until his failed 1992 campaign, which led to a radio talk show, The Alan Keyes Show. His failed 1996 campaign for president helped him double his s
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