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CSE, I do not play any internet morality cop, but try to suggest ways for a united Igbo, where not only we do not allow Oyibo and other foreigners to antagonize us but make sure we do not generate one ourselves.
I am sure we understand each other. Already many people use false or usernames here and there is no need bringing on someone's real name from another forum. Mind you that those people use their real names there because it is meant for Igbo alone and should be "protected". It is differnt from an article written by Okenwa in the Guardian or in other media. If Okenwa wrote nothing in the e-mail, why then should his name be linked to the article? You must have read subsequent responses regarding that quote to witness that the quote has been automatically linked to Okenwa. It is an example of antagonism. If you were on the shoes of Okenwa, I am sure you won't like it. Then do onto others .....
I have avoided using the name of my source(forum) here for the same reason that I avoided commenting on issues concerning Igbo organizations such as MASSOB, because this is no Igbo-only forum. I know that it might not be easy, but at times we need to change certain aspects of our ways in order to move forward.
You started the post where you used Okenwa Nwosu by "I read a chain email forwarded by Okenwa Nwosu about Igbo Youths disowning MASSOB:....".
If it was an e-mail that you received from Okenwa, then my earlier suggestion still remain valid. You do not need to register to reply to the e-mail, thereby attaining Okenwa's audience. It would be more effective.
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Kajethan, Nobody asked you to rely on links from Nigeriaworld.com message board. But it is supposed to be possible for those who want to do so. Your explanation for the technical failure is not convincing and I am surprised that you ignore completely it in your last post.
Since I joined Nigeriaworld.com in 2001, it has not changed its name. If it was called egbeomooduduwa.com before my arrival on the forum is another issue. I have always heard people refer to egbeomooduduwa.com, but I had no reason to look for it since I am already registered with more than two forums. But if there is another reason for using egbeomooduduwa.com instead of Nigeriaworld.com, then I ignore that completely.
quote:Originally posted by Kajethan O: Let's cut through the nonsense. You are talking about Okenwa Nwosu's postings at Igbo Excalibur, which many of us are members of. Since you are so obsessed about compactmentalization and that people provide links, may I ask, did Okenwa Nwosu provide a link to the articles that he posted to Excalibur or did he just copy the articles?
I think you have not understood what we are saying here. We are talking of threads, where many people exchange ideas on the same subject. In this case it is wrong to copy-paste someone's post without the integrality of the thread, therefore the necessity of a link. A copied quote does neither give the reason nor the conditions under which a statement is made. There are other reasons and I refer you to my former response to CSE. Once again, I made no mention of Igbo Excalibur.
quote:Originally posted by Kajethan O: I am aware that you made false statements in those forums that people challenged you to prove, and you failed to substantiate your reckless statements. This is only a guarded response. If you press on, I will get more specific because there is no Igbo national security involved in the subject matter. So, we can talk about those things here too.
At times I ignore people who decided to bury their heads in the sand. Nd'igbo are not stupid. They know that I cannot accuse anybody without reason, especially when the accused failed to say anything. If you check the archive if this board, you will find it as well as in that of NigeriaWorld.com. Others things also took place outside the internet. It is no secret to anybody since 2000/2001. I am sure that most people have taken their precautions.
But you can count on me to participate in any "interesting" thread if I am aware of it. If you check the archive of BNW and Nigeriaworld.com, using sylva to make your search in each case, you will discover a good number of same threads started by me. You can check the number of participants in each case.
quote:Originally posted by Kajethan O: P/S: Okenwa Nwosu is a frequent visitor to BNW. Directly or indirectly, he has even complained about some of the postings here as they affect him personally. So, quit holding brief for Okenwa Nwosu, as it is evident that he could do a much better job for himself than you could ever do defending him. [/QB]
Could you give us Okenwa Nwosu's username on this board so that we canread his complaints?
You accuse me of defending Okenwa who is not participating in this thread. But you decided to respond for CSE who is participating. You replied to my post explicitly addressed to CSE.
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Sylva Listen to your self, you are talking about people's privacy and yet you want Kajethan to provide you with Okenwa Nwosu's handle? If Okenwa Nwosu wants people to match his handle don't you think he would have used his real name. Just like Sylva is not your real name, wouldn't that go contrary to your preaching if the Board master or anybody else start to reveal your real name to match with your handle Sylva. Like I said there is no need arguing with you on this issue, you have made up your mind and appointed yourself the moral cop of internet. I guess we gonna have to leave with it.
The problem you have is that you don't comprehend what you read. I wrote
quote:Okenwa Nwosu is a frequent visitor to BNW. Directly or indirectly, he has even complained about some of the postings here as they affect him personally.
Your response to that was
quote:Could you give us Okenwa Nwosu's username on this board so that we canread his complaints?
Sylva:
Where in my post did you read that Okenwa's complaints were posted here? Is it too difficult for you to understand that Okenwa could complain at another forum about our postings here?
You admit that you only joined egbeomooduduwa.com in 2001. For your information, many of us here joined egbeomooduduwa.com years before you did. Whatever you choose to call that place now is your business not mine. You should ask yourself what happened to the posts we made over there. If you were not too lazy to review the archive of BNW, you would have known the answer to that question.
If you don't know how to make your links work at BNW, don't blame anyone for your own failures. No one is here to babysit you and your links to make sure they work. After all the links to the articles that many of here wrote at egbeomoduduwa.com don't work; they have long disappeared.
Have you bothered to ask yourself why you are the only person on this board who has failed to learn the meaning of egbeomoduduwa.com or that egbeomo.com is identical to the forum you tell us you are a member of?
According to you
quote:We are talking of threads, where many people exchange ideas on the same subject. In this case it is wrong to copy-paste someone's post without the integrality of the thread, therefore the necessity of a link. A copied quote does neither give the reason nor the conditions under which a statement is made. There are other reasons and I refer you to my former response to CSE.
You are very confused. What about the "integrality" (whatever that means) of all the posts that took us years to make at egbeomooduduwa.com? Do you know that CSE and I authored many of those posts that no longer have "integrality" at egbeomooduduwa.com? If we had known that our posts were going to disappear over there, we would have copied them and pasted them here at BNW where they will have true "integrality" (whatever that means).
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THE leader of the Movement for the Actualisation of the Sovereign State Of Biafra (MASSOB), Chief Ralph Uwazurike has been arrested while seven members of the group were shot dead in a gun battle wth policemen.
Force Public Relations Officer (FPRO) Chris Olakpe made the disclosure yesterday in a statement. He added that police authorities have begun a clampdown on members of the banned group across the country, an action that has resulted in the arrest of several people believed to be MASSOB members.
MASSOB and similar ethnic associations have been banned by the Federal Government.
Olakpe, a deputy police commissioner said Uwazurike's arrest and death of the seven suspected MASSOB members occurred when the group attempted to reclaim its operational headquarters in Okigwe-Imo State.
The police had last year dislodged the group from the operational headquarters following an order by the Inspector General, Mr. Tafa Balogun, outlawing all such groups nation-wide.
The statement further said members of the group dressed in the defunct Biafra camouflage, stormed the place in 20 buses and engaged policemen guarding the building in a gun battle.
In the encounter, according to Olakpe, four MASSOB members including their leader, Ralph Nwazurike were arrested while seven others were shot dead."
Olakpe said that in a similar operation to clamp down on the group, in Delta State, one Mareous Amachi and 31 others were arrested in Asaba, for conspiracy, unlawful assembly and illegal donning of Nigerian army uniform.
Also, in Lagos, the police arrested 35 members of the group while 31 locally made pistols were recovered from the suspects.
Other items recovered included matches, army uniforms and Biafran flags. The suspects, according to the statement, would soon be changed to court.
quote:Originally posted by Lanre: Why the gun duel now?
Lanre,
There you go, with that handsome grin of satisfaction.
To answer your question, the gun duel is the same type that the likes of Gani Fawehinmi and Beko Ransome Kuti, among other members of NADECO used to exchange against the police force of Abacha (the same police force mind you, albeit with a couple of personnel changes), in those heady days when Gani and Beko (those militant rascals) were armed to the teeth with AK 47s and Uzis, looking for helpless Abacha police to assault.
You can then understand.
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A thinking fellow would check the date of the article he wishes to rely on to make his case. At least establish how relevant the date is to the issue at hand, not egbon Lanre. Like Olujimi the tribal lawyer, Lanre is probably so bereft of common sense he did not notice that article was published on April 2003, a good 18 months before the highly succesfull MASSOB sit in. His decision to use this unsubstantiated article to make his case against MASSOB can only be likened to Olujimi's silly exoneration of OPC. With publicist like Lanre and Olujimi no wonder Aremu has the world acclaimed reputation of bungling ape.
One cannot help but wonder why Olujimi the petty tribalist did not unleash his war on MASSOB earlier on based on this "wonderfull" discovery by Lanre. Now you know why they will never find Ige's killers, what a bunch of mediocres.
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