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Ednut: Whether in 2007 or beyond, so long as the mess still goes on in nija. Some like Gani is what we need to fix it. Some one that is consistent. He has public said he will convene and SNC, investigate and try past corrupt leaders that put us in the mess we are in. Change the system so that Poverty will be eliminated.
That is why i support him.
All others are just in it for what they can get for themselves and their cronies!
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How many here did not know that Ojukwu was pro Abacha?
How many here can truly say that Ojukwu was against the military govt. of Abacha?
I!! Me!!!
quote:He has every right to regain his father properties that were siezed. He has every right to go about it through the judicial process. I am not against him doing it the way he did it. But what of many that lost all their properties during the Abandoned property policy?
Thank you so kindly for recognizing his rights to pursue the release of his assets that was illegally and unjustly confiscated to begin with. As for your other points, there is some validity to them but I never read anyone here or outside attribute to Ikemba as God or Jesus Christ. Therefore isn’t he as a human prone to the same oversights and mistakes we all make? Thank you.
quote:How many here will deny the fact that Ojukwu believes in the actualization of Biafra, as a separate country. And if he does, why did he agree to run as president of Nigeria under APGA?
C’mon dude! Look at it this way maybe he would’ve called for the SNC that aremu the idiot has no balls to. At that conference, if the people of nigeria decide that a separation is what they want, Ikemba would’ve seen to it that the peoples’ wishes are carried out. Hey! That’s democracy so stop vilifying Odumegwu-Ojukwu, ok? Had Ikemba won that election, well he might well be the winner since aremu, ogbeh, uba, ngige etc are now admitting that they STOLE the election the awusas’ killing field would’ve done an abrupt stop.
quote:This is going to be my last piece on this issue. So that i will not be accused of what u have refused to see in others.
Pure bull! A defeatist attitude is what it is. You ask some dumb questions then scamper in anticipation of intelligent rebuttals.
quote:Today, i am for Gani, because he has shown consistency. if tomorrow he changes i will question him and have the right to change my support for him.
Much as most of us agree with this comment, you cannot equate Gani’s position in nigeria to that of Ikemba because if we dig deeper we may come up with unappealing dirt on him too. Ikemba was the Head of State of a country whereas gain is an ordinary citizen who’s not considered a ‘threat’ by the Igbo haters. The man will make a good vice to Ikemba though.
Questions:
Do you like bolaji aluko's style of trashing the Igbo and their icons?
Do you think aluko showed enough gratitude towards Ikemba after it was said that Ikemba rescued his father from the nigerian guerilla that did unspeakable stuff to his m*m?
Why do you hate to hear us say anything about the actualization of Biafra after many years of corrupt incompetent governemnts of the Yoruba and their Awusa counterparts?
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Personally, I think Aluko belittles himselves by the way he talks and biker over mundane things. I have on this board asked him myself why he likes to castigate my people. I have met Aluko personally, and i respect him as a man that excelled in his academic calling. He was of assistance to me when i was new in the US. I have been to his house and i was surprised to read some of the things he wrote here and how he responded to some taunting. I wrote a rebutal to his article on Achebe's rejection of OBj award in Lagos Forum., Unfurtantely i can not copy that link here. But if u go to the political discuss board on lagos Forum, u will find what i wrote. My name there, as in all the places i chat on line is Nwa-Afor or OmoNna.
We can disagree on issues and other things, but we must be civil to each other. So i disagree on how Bolaji Aluka trash Igbo Icons and in some ways used inuendos to belittle Igbos.
On the Ikemba, I respectfully decline to comment having said my piece.
I am all for the actualization of Biafra if that is our last resort. For now i dont think it is. The reason being that, Igbo politicians are as guilty as the northerners and yorubas for the chaos we have today in nija. Now if Igbo Politicians were to be different, and the National govt. treats us the way they do, only because we are igbos, I will be as passionate about Biafra as i am about good governance in Nigeria.
On Gani; I read some where that he is for sharia. i am against sharia in any form, but over all we share same passion for good governance.During the SNC we can decide how Sharia and other needs of the different people could be accomodated and what compromise need be made for the interst of progress and accountability. Of cos' no human is without blemish, So if any is found in Gani, i expect him to admit such and not use the ethnic centered reason to defend the indefensible.
When u say corrupt incompetent govt. of the hausa and yoroba, u forget to mention the igbos that are involvedin politics as well. That is why i always ask, "Will Biafra leaders come from Out of space"? And if after actualization of Biafra, will their be cleansing of our political class? or will the same politician hijack the Biafra forum to continue to unleash more hardship on the igbo people.
This is my honest answer to ur sincere straighforward questions.
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quote:I have met Aluko personally, and i respect him as a man that excelled in his academic calling.
Huh? The man was awarded an engineering diploma by a department chaired or tutored by his dad. See, why some of us view that “achievement” with suspicion? What type of knowledge will he pass onto to his pupils when he spends 1000% of his time on the Web writing his filth against the Igbo? How someone with a pragmatic degree could write more than Wole Soyinka beats the devil out of me. Is he an English tutor or an engineer in chemical matters?
quote:On the Ikemba, I respectfully decline to comment having said my piece.
I’ll let this be. I guess I could say I said my piece too so that evens out with a slight edge going to me though. Lol.
quote:And if after actualization of Biafra, will their be cleansing of our political class?
Great question!! Without cleansing it will remain biz as usual and we don’t need that. Of course a lot of efulefus would be destroyed for any meaningful gain to stick. Nde ewo.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Make it a two-way mutual SALUTE. I still miss addy though.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Why u dey miss Addy like this? we don hear say na better guy. This kind i miss Addy, i miss Addy everyday, make u no let us read meaning into am oooo.
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quote:Why u dey miss Addy like this? we don hear say na better guy. This kind i miss Addy, i miss Addy everyday, make u no let us read meaning into am oooo.
I am an all around man. May I suggest you read the last thirty or so posts of addy to understand why I'll miss his presence?
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2483 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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I have read your beautiful bio, and it is all well and good. Our brother MeBiafran may have let you go for now, but I haven't, and I dont think Chiboy among others have, though I speak for myself.
You came in here swinging, implying that people on this board were being brainwashed, and that together with Bolaji Aluko, and Knight among others you were here to establish a different order. About that goal, you were uniquely adamant!
If you just arrived from where you came, what gave you such a fixed opinion? Why is it that now you have been asked to start debriefing the brainwashed zombies on this board including myself, you are now equally adamant as in:
quote:This is going to be my last piece on this issue. So that i will not be accused of what u have refused to see in others.
Is this how you react when your bold assertions are subjected to scrutiny?
You seemed so ready to call boardmembers TYRANTS by insinuation, but now you have displayed the most intolerant and tyrannical tendency.
You accused Ojukwu of something, and when asked to substantiate it you stated:
quote:This is going to be my last piece on this issue. So that i will not be accused of what u have refused to see in others.
How would you like someone in Yaba market to yell Ole! Ole! (thief! thief!), and after your carcass has been doused with petrol and set on fire, for that person to declare adamantly:
quote:This is going to be my last piece on this issue.....
Is this how they did it at the Guardian chat-room from which hole you crawled out?
Believe me, I dont mean that as an insult though I am entitled to one given your assumptions and assertions about members of this board of which I belong.
Havent you ever heard the saying: "Look before you leap"?
or did you believe that you would be insulated by the company of Bolaji Aluko and Crusader and others to assault the sensibilities of your fellow Igbos just because the Yoruba audience at guardian had thoroughly brainwashed you from valuing your identity?
What the heck does OmoNnaa mean? You might as well have answered Omo-Yibo or Omo-Okoro, and such other perjoratives which show you were basically a square peg in a Yoruba roundhole where the likes of Aluko among others go to brainwash Igbo "One-Nigeria" wannabes and then hopefully seek'em against members of BNW without provocation. Abi?
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I was respect it. The purpose of any discuss i believe is to enlighten, inform and entertain. i try not to antagonize others. Like u see i am quiet passionate in my beliefs. If u have more to add to points i stated about Ojukwu or others, let us hear it. if not raise another topic.
We must share ideas on how to improve the lot of our people and all people. Our people are the victims of the numerous squables that take place.
So, do u think Biafra politicians will come from out of space? Would u prefer a politician that is consistent, accountable and responsible? Or would you just want Biafra to continue as the extension of the mess that is Nigeria?
If we can not all join hand to fix Nigeria, how do u think we will succed in fixing Biafra considering the fact that corruption and nepotism has eaten deep into our system. Have u been to Main Market Onitsha, Ariara/Nkwo Ngwa(Aba), Oron Market, Ikot Ekpene, Mbukpa market, Aba Portharcourt Road in Rivers,Even to Ama JK Junction in Owerri? Do u see the mentality of our people? What type of orientation do we start to provide that will change years fixation to such?
As an individual, How are u going to effect positive change? How Would an independent Biafra change all that? What of undue influence from Nigeria?
these are what i want us to discuss not antagonizing one another
Ka Chinek Mezie okwu
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You keep attempting to change the subject, but if my determination to compel you to stay the course appears like antagonism, then you have a very thin skin indeed.
Do you know that you attempted to antagonize and slander Ojukwu's hard earned good name by the insinuation you made, the thrust of which was that:
Ojukwu's friendship or acquaintance with Abacha and Buhari was for personal gain at the expense of the Igbo.
Do you really believe this? and what substantiation have you?
Regarding your other questions,if you reviewed the archives of this great board whose members you saw fit to attack without provocation, you would find that those questions have been raised and addressed in one form or another, either driven by members questions or by daily News events.
As part of the erroneous assumptions you made, you must have thought that both the Big picture issues, and the issues of basic detail have not been addressed on this board. Again, that is wrong. Yours is to do the homework.
If you cannot substantiate your allegations against Ojukwu, you should have the decency to withdraw them till you can substantiate it.
No sacred cows including you!
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Oburu na mbu onye otu Chris Ubah, mara amara na eso mu akpo Chris Ubah ihe obu; Onye mebiri obodo, onye ori!
Agaghi mu ekwo maka na abumu onye igbo, were noro na unu ewu anwuo na ogbiri. Aga mu ekwu eziokwu. maka na eziokwu bu ndu. Ojukwu anaghi akwuru na otu ebi ma okwuo okwu. Osi na okwadoro ihe onye ori Obasanjo na eme maka na osi ka anodi ana kwuo okwu. Mara amara na Obasanjo agaghi ekwe ka ihe ekwuputara na udi ogbako nke a buru ihe ga ada bara ndi Igbo!
Eziokwu bu ndu, noro na akuku eziokwu, oburu go du na iga anwu anwu. maka na chi jiri eji ga efo efo.
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Let it be on record that you have failed to substantiate all the willd allegations you made about Ojukwu. Futhermore I do not believe those allegation were well intentioned, you will do yourself good not to underestimate the intelligence of the members of the board. If you have come on an anti Ojukwu campaign be brave enough to do so, I have tons of respect for principled men.
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quote:Eziokwu bu ndu, noro na akuku eziokwu, oburu go du na iga anwu anwu. maka na chi jiri eji ga efo efo.
Nwa-Afor Di anyi,
Anyi ncha ahugonu ka isi were ekwu eziokwu nke gi, werekwanu ebi ndu ahu eziokwu na ebute.
Ekwuo agbawara oso, ga kwa na ebe ozo kwukwa gbawarakwa oso ozo.
keezi udi eziokwuahu ana abu ekwuo etikapu oso? Ibu zi okuko ahu na anyu ahuru ana achuba ya oso?
Akam asi gi chakwaa a chaa, kama ahugom na iji nnukwute ntumriko were bata na ogboaa. Odoro anya na eziri gi ezi, ibia kere nnukwute nkwucha iji were jee nyabu ozi ezitere gi na ogbakoaa.
Ozugbo Ibatara na ogbako na ka ibidoro were kpuru aha Ojukwu na onu.
Ibodo ya nta, ibodo ya imoroko. Kama Perry Coma ndi egwu si na obu "akochaa ka esiri gba abani oburu akwa nni" Ahugom na iga ebekata Ojukwu Ojukwu chi aboo, Ike agwukwanu gi
Berezienu akwa gaba Oo!
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ebe isiri bia bu ikpari Ojukwu. Ndi Otu gi na ndi ogo gi ndi ofe nmanu ziri ka ibia ebaa. Ki ina akpari Ikemba. ke me isiri bata ebe ubochi nile Ojukwu ka ikpu na onu, di ka nwenem Ukaobasi siri kwuo.
quote: English please or broken at least. This Igbo thing is too heard to follow especially with the Imo accent.
Ed, you've gone beyond ridiculous with this statement of yours. Your utterances are highly un-Igbo and you must check it. So, are you telling us that your waawaa dialect is more appreciated if you must know? We all know the gist about your town and bedbugs - "akpiri nama." For your feeble knowledge, I, too am an unadulterated Imolite last and Igbo first. Are you? "gini mere iji eme owe gi arusi a pira api?"
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