It is maddening that so many years after independence, there are French war planes, French tanks, French military personnel still roaming the lands of their former West African colonies as if independence never happened? This week, French forces took control of security in Ivory Coast.
There seems to have been a greater deal of finality in the British withdrawal of its forces from West Africa following the 'independence' of the British colonies. Not so the French. Should the French be made to pull out of West Africa?
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abeg, make di oyinbo soja stay o! make dem remain. if dem comot na soso kill darkie go kill demselves. if dem comot katakata go burst o! na me talk am! i throw salut!
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quote:oti o, i no gree with una. darkie "man-chop-man" e big pass oyinbo im own. at least, di native doctor wey i know for inside teju-osho market, im get plenty human parts for inside fridge.
Soon we'll hear:
quote:.....Why not be proud of your pidgin-english? There are thousands of afro-caucasian half-castes who never had the chance to visit Africa, who wish they could at least speak pidgin-english.
.....Shame on you who slashed PidginBoy because of his love for pidgin-english.
.....Do you really think that the United Nations will give people like yourselves, who are ashamed of their own heritage, the chance to build sovereign nations like Arewa, Oduduwa, Iboland etc? Niemals!
Dr B,
Dont be surprised that the Brits might be having a rethink, and envying the French way. In their support for the Fulani element who used to be settlers(remember what MeBiafra said about these "settler" types in the "Arafat brain dead" thread?) in Ivory coast, the French have decided to reach in and remove Gbagbo personally.
Its called "pre-emptive doctrine".
The Brits might ultimately decide to use this in the Niger Delta if Dokubo persists, and Obasanjo does not act forcefully enough.
They might also use it on Zimbabwe.
Mark Thatcher had tried to use it on Sao Tome or somewhere, but had not moved "pre-emptively" enough.
But in "Nigeria" while all this is going on, every tom dick and Aremu is busy with their heads stuck inside their anuses. The Igboman's is their greatest preoccupation.
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quote: French military personnel still roaming the lands of their former West African colonies as if independence never happened?
Like we never read how the barbarians in Ivory Coast killed both innocent citizens and the French? I wish the foxy British would have the nerve to do just that, take out evil men like aremu.
quote:Should the French be made to pull out of West Africa?
Two words, HELL NO!
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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Like we never read how the barbarians in Ivory Coast killed both innocent citizens and the French? I wish the foxy British would have the nerve to do just that, take out evil men like aremu.
MeBiafran,
We may have to be careful what we wish for. The French are not very savory characters when it comes to colonialism. The so-called peacekeeping troops out of whom nine were killed by Gbagbo's planes are actually on a covert mission to strengthen the hands of the Muslim Fulani's.
I talked extensively with an Ivorien southerner and his basic gist gave me the impression that Ivory coast today is undergoing what"Nigeria" went through in the early 1960's to 1966, where Northern Hausa Fulani's were testing their hand on how to extend their power to the south.
The French favor for Allasaine Quattarra (and other Fulani foreigners from Burkina Faso and other northern neighbors) over Laurent Gbagbo in the elections that brought in Gbagbo was never hidden from Ivoriens notice, and the subsequent breakaway by the northern rebels (who are really not interested in breaking away, but in consolidation) and the tacit support by the French is also not hidden to all.
In that regard, I would not compare Gbagbo to Aremu, a mere bootlicker, but to Ojukwu, Lumumba, Nkrumah, Nyerere and others who saw through the indirect rule ruse of the colonialists and whose preference for upright conduct and self respect, in place of servility and kleptomania, presented an undesirable hurdle (to maintaining access to and total control of African resources) for the racists.
Furthermore, when Biafra needed arms and ammunition, the French sold us guns that backfired, and bullets that did not work with the guns that were sold. It took Biafran ingenuity to make do by salvaging what they could, and pretty much discarding the rest which were junk.
Finally, When Gowon offered Bakassi peninsula to the French (notice I didnt say Cameroun) to block that route of supplies to Biafra, they very quickly jumped at it without a second thought about principles, ethical conduct, or Biafra.
I have a problem with their overall motive, and have endeavored herein to explain my own personal reasons for it.
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Why do you think I call you the Honorable one? My brother after I read this by you. "We may have to be careful what we wish for. The French are not very savory characters when it comes to colonialism. The so-called peacekeeping troops out of whom nine were killed by Gbagbo's planes are actually on a covert mission to strengthen the hands of the Muslim Fulani's." I was troubled enough to realize that my early post have no place so consider it withdrawn. But let me ask, what is it with these dumb Christian nations that are quick to support these wicked islamic junkies? Can't they see the plan of the islamists? I tire!
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But let me ask, what is it with these dumb Christian nations that are quick to support these wicked islamic junkies? Can't they see the plan of the islamists? .....
MeBiafran my brother thank you.
Servility/Manipulability + Kleptomania = unhindered attainment of vital interests Shared Christianity and vital interests do not converge. QED!
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Originally posted by MeBiafran. Quote: ----------------------------- "But let me ask, what is it with these dumb Christian nations that are quick to support these wicked islamic junkies? Can't they see the plan of the islamists? ..... -------------------------------
MeBiafran: Happy Sunday my brother Anyone who still think that Saddam Hussein was thrown out of power because he was a muslim or a 'terrorist' is either ignorant of world politics or is simply being dumb. For be you a Christain, Jewish, Budhist, muslim or atheist leader, the GOLDEN RULE in the books of the governments in the west is that anytime or day you go against their interest, YOU ARE OUT.
All the religious, racial or to "protect lives and property" these govermnets as reason for their actions are just meant confuse the often ill-informed public and to make religious fanatics and other biggots start quarreling and in some cases kill themselves, all in the name of "protecting" one religion or the other. So just as I posited from the time the Americans invaded Iraq, same I say in this case; just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with giving the Iraqis freedom or capturing an islamic 'terrorist' called Saddam Hussein, so I also say that the invasion of Ivory Coast by the French has NOTHINg to do with either protecting the lives and properties of the Ivorians, but rather has EVERYTHING to with with the neo-imperialists protecting their interests in that part of the world. QED.
Originally posted by Ukaobasi. Quote: --------------------------------- Servility/Manipulability + Kleptomania = unhindered attainment of vital interests Shared Christianity and vital interests do not converge. QED! ---------------------------------
Nwa-Mazi Ukaobasi: To say that you are the Solomon on this board will be an an understatement. I couldn't have put it more succitly as you did above in your answer to MeBiafran's question. It's for the above reason that you claerly enumerated that I (I guess many around the world) opposed and still oppose the invasion of Iraq by you Americans. For as far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter if it is the Americans, the French, the Germans or any other western country that is concerned. One thing we know for sure is that one thing that unites these people is that they will protect THEIR INTERESTS ANYWHERE, ANYTIME AND ANYDAY AND AT ALL COST. NO MATTER WHAT THE LOCALS OF THE AREA CONCERNED THINKS OR WANTS. Pity that some Americans and most especially my fellow Africans residing in the west are yet to see through this conspiracy of the imperialists, which by the way is at the root of the multitide of problems we have in Africa and in most of the thrid world today. But the earlier they open their eyes to discover who our REAL enemy(ies) are, the better.
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: ----------------------------- "But let me ask, what is it with these dumb Christian nations that are quick to support these wicked islamic junkies? Can't they see the plan of the islamists? ..... -------------------------------
MeBiafran: Happy Sunday my brother Anyone who still think that Saddam Hussein was thrown out of power because he was a muslim or a 'terrorist' is either ignorant of world politics or is simply being dumb. For be you a Christain, Jewish, Budhist, muslim or an atheist leader, the GOLDEN RULE in the books of the governments in the west is that anytime or day you go against their interest, YOU ARE OUT!
All the religious, racial or to "protect lives and property" which these governments often give as reason for their self-centred actions are just meant to confuse the often ill-informed public and to make some religious fanatics and other biggots start quarreling, and in some cases kill themselves, all in the name of "protecting" one religion or the other. So just as I posited from the time the Americans invaded Iraq, same I still hold here; just as the invasion of Iraq has nothing to do with giving the Iraqis freedom or capturing an islamic 'terrorist' called Saddam Hussein, so I also say that the invasion of Ivory Coast by the French has NOTHING to do with protecting either lives or properties of the warring Ivorians, rather it has EVERYTHING to with the neo-imperialists looking for an escuse to continue their neo-colonism and imperialism in that part of the world. QED.
Originally posted by Ukaobasi. Quote: --------------------------------- Servility/Manipulability + Kleptomania = unhindered attainment of vital interests Shared Christianity and vital interests do not converge. QED! ---------------------------------
Nwa-Mazi Ukaobasi: To say that you are the Solomon on this board will be an an understatement. I couldn't have put it more succintly as you did above in your reply to MeBiafran's question. It is for the same reason that you clearly enumerated above that I (I guess many around the world) opposed and still oppose the invasion of Iraq by you Americans. For as far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter if it is the Americans, the French, the Germans or any other western country that is concerned. One thing we know for sure is that one thing that unites these people is that they will do whatever it takes (including brainwashing their citizenry) to go out to protect THEIR INTERESTS ANYWHERE, ANYTIME AND ANYDAY AND AT ALL COST. NO MATTER WHAT THE LOCALS OF THE AREA CONCERNED THINKS OR WANTS. Pity that some Americans and most especially my fellow Africans residing in the west are yet to see through this conspiracy of the imperialists, which by the way is at the root of the multitide of problems we have in Africa and in most of the third world today. But the earlier they open their eyes to discover who our REAL enemy(ies) are, the better.
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Something is wrong when the French can simply destroy the Airforce of the Ivory Coast and even the President of Ivory Coast could not ask them to leave his country:
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Quote: -------------------------- "Something is wrong when the French can simply destroy the Airforce of the Ivory Coast and even the President of Ivory Coast could not ask them to leave his country:---Kunle. -------------------------
Kunle: How could he when the other western puppets led by none other than Uncle Sege has just given the U.N. the go ahead to impose an "arms embargo" on the Ivorian governmnet? We Africans - both the so-called leaders and we the led - are our own worst enemy. Any wonder the Westerners see and treat us the way they do.
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