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As new member or should i say contributor to this site, i am surprised that some links are denied access. Anyway, i only posted a link of a story about Ogbehs letter to OBJ and OBj's reaction, i guess most here have read it.
Also, is BNW trying to mold what its members think?
I think most here are old enough to make up their own minds. Regardless, of how different our opinions are, we all should be able to make up our minds.
That is the beauty of democracry and dialogue! I know many here have accused me of been who i am not, and in some cases i have disagreed with some opinions posted here, so also do people have the right to disagree with my opinion. That is the only way we can have a progressive and lively discussion.
Ka Chinek Mezie Okwu
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Older members of BNW know why you and Aluko have been having problems posting links from egbeomooduduwa.com1 and egbeomooduduwa.com2. Yours is an egbeomooduduwa.com1 link. Many of those blockages are purely retaliatory. I don't think anyone cares to shape what you think. But, there is no reason for you to post egbeomo links here, especially since egbe copied the story from somewhere else. Also, you can find everything you need in terms of news from http://news.biafranigeriaworld.com.Posts: 127 | Registered: Mar 2001
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I get my news from variety of sources? Now i know, since my guardian link was posted.
My thing is this, been retaliatory does not move us forward. If they are so myiopic to ban BNW link, we should not stoop as low as them. Afterall 2 wrongs do not make a right. We should show more maturity, after all, by stooping to their level, we are just saying they are right. This is just my humble opinion.
As for PDP, ihe eke na amu na ewu awuro.
All those that belongs to "the nest of killers" shall one day be victims! Do u think Audu is playing politics knowing that OBj's time is almost up? do u read IBB handwriting in all this?
Mazi Onyemachi Ndewo!
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quote:Originally posted by Nwa-Afor: Chukwumaechi/lol,
I get my news from variety of sources? Now i know, since my guardian link was posted.
Nwa-Afor:
You may get your news from a variety of sources. But, you should get your links from dependable sources only. I know that your Guardian link will become useless tomorrow, so I am posting the full article below.
quote:Obasanjo tackles Ogbeh over state of nation
A SHARP disagreement within the leadership of Nigeria came into the open at the weekend with President Olusegun Obasanjo and Chief Audu Ogbeh, the ruling Peoples Democratic Party chairman exchanging angry letters over the state of the nation.
President Obasanjo rejected assertions by Ogbeh that his administration was not doing enough to arrest the slide towards anarchy by the country, especially in Anambra State.
The President was particularly displeased that the claims were coming from the national chairman of his party, PDP.
Obasanjo, in a December 10, 2004 letter to Ogbeh, said that he was "amused and not surprised" by the national chairman's letter of December 6, 2004, containing the allegations.
Accusing Ogbeh of exhibiting less than noble intentions with the claims, the President said: "After playing hide and seek games over a period of time, you have finally, at least in writing, decided to unmask and show your true colour." Ogbeh, had, in a December 6 letter to the President, expressed concern over the handling of the Anambra crisis by the Federal Government and the Police.
Entitled: "Re: Anambra and Related Matters," the letter was copied to the Vice President, the Chairman, Board of Trustees of the PDP, and the House of Representatives Speaker.
Ogbeh had drawn the President's attention to the July 10, 2003 abduction of the Anambra State governor, Dr. Chris Ngige and the subsequent indictment of a PDP chieftain, Chris Uba, as the mastermind. The PDP national chairman also listed the recent armed attacks on the governor, torching of state property by political hoodlums and the bombing of the governor's lodge among others as incidents that ought to have attracted firm actions from the Federal Government.
Ogbeh, in the letter, said that the PDP was attracting public discontent similar to what preceded the fall of the Second Republic and urged Obasanjo to halt the slide.
The PDP national chairman said in the letter: "About a month ago, the nation woke up to the shocking news of a devastating attack on Anambra State resulting in the burning down of radio and television stations, hotels, vehicles, assembly quarters, the residence of the state chief judge and finally, Government House, Awka." Noting that dynamite was used by hoodlums in the "full glare of our own police force," Ogbeh said: "That week, in all churches and mosques, we, our party and you as Head of Government and Leader of this nation came under the most scathing and blithering attacks. We were singly and severely accused of connivance in action and so forth. Public anger reached its peak." He declared that the Governor Sam Egwu-headed reconciliation team raised by the Federal Government over the matter had failed to achieve its purpose as more cases of attacks were being recorded in the state.
Ogbeh said: "It would appear that the perpetrators of these acts are determined to stop at nothing since there has not been any visible sign of reproach from law enforcement agencies," adding that he was convinced that rumours of plans to assassinate Ngige were not unfounded.
He queried: "What would be the consequences of such a development? How do we exonerate ourselves from culpability and worse still, how do we even hope to survive it?" Ogbeh recalled that he was a member of the defunct Second Republic that was sacked by the military on December 31, 1983, saying, "memories of that fall (by the political class) are a miserable litany of woes." He continued: "We (politicians) suffered, escaping death by God's supreme mercy. Then we were suspected to have stolen all of Nigeria's wealth. After several months in prison, some of us were freed to come back to life penniless and wretched." Expressing concern over the action of the nation under Obasanjo, Ogbeh said: "I am afraid we are drifting in the same direction again," adding that "in life, perception is reality and today we are perceived in the worst light by an angry scornful Nigerian public for reasons which are absolutely unnecessary." But the President, in his letter dated December 10, not only explained his role in the Anambra saga, and accused Ogbeh of not being forthright in the matter, his choice of words did not hide his displeasure with his party chairman. "... You have finally, at least, decided to unmask your true colour," the President told Ogbeh.
Obasanjo, in a tone dripping with anger, recalled that he refrained from being personally involved in the process through which governorship candidates of the party emerged for the 2003 election, except in Anambra where he took exception to the possibility of the then governor, Chinwoke Mbadinuju, being returned, having been proven with his woeful performance, to be grossly unfit for the office.
Obasanjo said that on the emergence of Ngige as the governorship candidate, he worked with him the same way he did with other candidates. And on emerging the governor, the President added that he helped Ngige constitute a non-partisan honorary Committee of Elders funded by the Presidency.
Not long after, the President said, the Chairman of the committee, Igwe Alex Nwokedi of Achalla, reported that it "was impossible to advise or work with" governor Ngige.
Obasanjo also acknowledged being shown three different purported resignation letters by Ngige, including a video tape. He also recalled that on one occasion, at a meeting with the duo, Uba pointedly told Ngige that the election was rigged for the governor.
The President said that he got the "real shock of my life when Uba looked Ngige straight in the face and said, "you know you did not win the election" and Ngige answered "yes, I know I did not win." Obasanjo said further: "Uba went further to say to Ngige 'you don't know in detail how it was done'. I was horrified and told both of them to leave my residence." The animosity between Ngige and Uba is traced to the former's refusal to abide by some purported agreement on assumption of office.
Obasanjo continued to Ogbeh: "The incident was reported to you because although constitutionally, Ngige had been declared winner, for me and, I believe, for you there remains a moral and dilemma both as leaders in Nigeria and leaders of our party. You did not consider it important enough to do anything or talk about it."
The President added: "I told Ngige that the only way I could live with this moral dilemma since he had been constitutionally declared as Governor is that I will continue to deal with him in his capacity as the Governor of a state in Nigeria purely and strictly on formal basis either until he runs out his term, he decides to follow the path of honour or until any competent authority declares otherwise."
Obasanjo said he had told both Uba and Ngige that theirs "was like the case of two armed robbers that conspired to loot a house and after bringing out the loot, one decided to out-do the other in and the issues of fair-play even among robbers became a factor."
He continued: "The two robbers must be condemned for robbery in the first instance and the greedy one must be specially pointed out for condemnation to do justice among the robbers." Faulting Ogbeh's argument on his relationship with Ngige, Obasanjo said: "Contrary to your belief and insinuation, just today, December 9, the governor of Anambra came to me to seek my opinion and advice on whether or not to constitute a Commission of Enquiry into what happened in the state. I did not hesitate to advise and encourage him to do so in order that all the facts would be exposed and verifiable truth be established, rather than trading in rumours."
Querying Ogbeh's motives, the President said: "Let me also say that it is, indeed, unfortunate that you make so many unnecessary and unwarranted insinuations in your letter about our great country. I have taken judicious note of the ominous comparisons you made between a government in which you participated that was overthrown in a coup d'etat and this present administration."
He then continued: "I wonder if that is your wish since you may not now go out penniless. But whatever agenda you may be working at, God is always in charge and in control. Warped perception created and manipulated for a sinister purpose cannot be reality."
The President added: "One thing I will never stop doing is praying for Nigeria in general and Anambra in particular. May God continue to bless and prosper Nigeria. In spite of the malevolence of some Nigerians, Nigeria is moving to the cruising level and cruising speed. That is the work of God and what all Nigerians and friends of Nigeria should do is to join hands in hastening the work of God in Nigeria at this juncture."
I could care less about PDP, Ogbeh, or Obasanjo. We should work toward an Igbo nation into which non-Igbos will not be permitted to enter without a visa and proper screening.
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I could care less about PDP, Ogbeh, or Obasanjo. We should work toward an Igbo nation into which non-Igbos will not be permitted to enter without a visa and proper screening.~~~ Ezeka Onu
Bravooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Tell it like it is my brother.
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Please for my continued good health you guys should avoid "Nwa Afor's" topics. Let them come in on topics started by you not the other way around. I don't know how many times I should say this. This guy believe it or not is bolaji aluko. I am not against stuff he posts that contains some element of reasonableness I'm however against the use of phony handle/name like Nwa Afor etc to do it. This guy should learn how to tow addy's path by stating his mind with a single handle, period! No Igbo person I know would misspell Afo. His has a western tone. What the hell is Afor?
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I could care less about PDP, Ogbeh, or Obasanjo. We should work toward an Igbo nation into which non-Igbos will not be permitted to enter without a visa and proper screening.~~~ Ezeka Onu
This will never work. What do you mean non-Igbos? I am going no record to say that I am 110% not for isolation or separation from our eastern brothers.
On the Nwa Afor thing, what if he is Bolaji? And lots of Igbos do spell Okafor, Nwafor etc with r. Lets stop being to dramatic here.
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Nevertheless, they are myiopic and does not represent the thinking of the Ndi-igbo whom u pretend to represent.
The igbo people think for themselves, they never had a dictatorial tendencies like u guys exhibit here. Amongst the age grades there are disagreement, majority them carries the day.
U can insinuate all u want about my identity, i am not here to prove anything, but to contribute my piece. I have contributed to several topics here that catch my attention and that i feel i should contribute to. If i raise a topic and u want to contribute fine, if not keep quiet, dont try to influence others not to speak their mind.
I wonder the type of Biafra u guys want, as for me i want a free society, where our people will have the right to choose and live freely realizing their full potentials in the process.
Ka Chineke mezie Okwu!
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Nevertheless, they are myiopic and does not represent the thinking of the Ndi-igbo whom u pretend to represent.
I guess it would take a miracle for you to drop your trademark insults simply for telling you the bare truth? I never claimed to be representing anyone much less "pretend" I state my opinion and that's just about it. I repeat my call for them to leave you to wallow in your yoroba induced obfuscation. I guess I can now tell you off now that addy, a good man is gone. The moment those my real brothers acknowledge my request you will be left alone, aluko.
Ednut:
I don't even know if I should reply to this chap. I should. What type of analogy are you trying to bring here? That it's ok to spell Afo with an "R" at the end simply because "Okafor" etc is spelt with an "R" at the end? Sorry, child. Just because the past tense of TAKE is TOOK does not mean you should ascribe to BAKE as BOOK if you understand what I'm saying.
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I said your views are myiopic and does not represent the generality of the igbos. This is not an insult, but in reference to ur term that no non-igbo will be allowed to enter Biafra. It is myiopic because, Biafra is made up igbos and non-igbos... Phillip Effiong was not an igbo, yet he was ex biafran leader, Our brothers in Bakasi, Rivers, etc etc are not igbos, yet they were part of Biafra. SO saying Biafra is for only igbos is very myipic. So where is the insult in that.
Anyway, I am happy the Anambra issue is getting the attention it deserves. It has made Obasanjo "salla asisa" Confess. The whole world now knows that Obasanjo is an accomplice to the rigging that took place in Anambra and that he does not respect and uphold the constitution he swore to uphold. Until he confesses fully and agrees to fund the repair of all the damaged properties, we must continue to highlight the evil in his stolen mandate!
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quote:...but in reference to ur term that no non-igbo will be allowed to enter Biafra. - Nwa-Afor
Me said this? No way!! Please direct me where I made this comment. I've never stated what you ascribed to me and therefore at a loss as to your motive. Are you trying to pit the Rivers and Calabar Biafrans against us? I'm watching you real close, pal.
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Me Biafra: Scroll up and read Ezeka onu Statement:
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Nwa-Afor:
I could care less about PDP, Ogbeh, or Obasanjo. We should work toward an Igbo nation into which non-Igbos will not be permitted to enter without a visa and proper screening.
Now read your follow-up to such a statement;
U never corrected him rather her is what u wrote:
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NwaBiafra, Ezeka Onu & others,
Please for my continued good health you guys should avoid "Nwa Afor's" topics. Let them come in on topics started by you not the other way around. I don't know how many times I should say this. This guy believe it or not is bolaji aluko. I am not against stuff he posts that contains some element of reasonableness I'm however against the use of phony handle/name like Nwa Afor etc to do it. This guy should learn how to tow addy's path by stating his mind with a single handle, period! No Igbo person I know would misspell Afo. His has a western tone. What the hell is Afor?
What u did was attack the spelling of my name as if that is what matters. Now it is me that is setting up the igbos and our Rivers and Cross Rivers brothers!
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Just because Dr Aluko is no longer, does not mean that your Igbo identity is not in Question. Your activities in this forum since you came here, continue be anti Igbo and your romance with those who hate Igbos continue to put to question the name Nwa-afor.
I will never be detered in speaking the truth, it sets one free!
I would ask you to be objective and state the truth even if at the point of death, that way you legacy can stand the test of time.
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quote: U never corrected him rather her is what u wrote
Thanks for allaying my fears because I've never, ever considered the Rivers, Cross Rivers non-Igbos/Biafrans NEVER! I'm equally sure you understood what my brother Ezeka Onu meant. He was referring to the Yoruba and their northern counterparts not the good people of Rivers and Calabar. Try some else this is not working for obvious reasons. As for "correcting" him, I never wanted to contribute to the thread to begin with all I wanted was to caution my brothers to watch out and leave you alone. Enemies abound!
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Its a more grievous sin not to correct ur brother.
But u chose to correct me whom u do not call a brother as me ur thinking, i am yoruba. hahaha. LoL,
Nwanna, cheta kwa na eziokwu bu ndu.
Today, we have lost our morals and dignity because older people in the village side those with money and tell lies. That is why many 419 people now posses chieftancy title. No one tells the truth anymore.
I know u are made of stener stuff, I know u have conscience, i have read some things u wrote here that makes me believe that u still have some stuff worthy of comendation. Do not ever, ever loss it.
Ka Chineke mezie Okwu!
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If you read me correctly then you did noticed that I said your real identity makes no difference as long as you continue to stay within the realms of reasonableness. As for this,
quote: Its a more grievous sin not to correct ur brother.
But u chose to correct me whom u do not call a brother as me ur thinking, i am yoruba. hahaha. LoL,
I take delight in telling the truth. It makes me happy as I know no other way. I did not correct anything for the simple reason that I didn't want to be dragged into it. For the umpteenth time I only wanted them to abandon the topic after all the implosion is what most of us here have been predicting prior to your emergence. When people support evil with closed eyes, time becomes the better adjudicator as to when they too would be consumed by the same evil. Wasn't ogbeh aremu's "otinkpu" not too long ago? He stated that aremu is the best thing after Jesus. That people should be mindful the way they talk to 'the-commander-in-thief' because he's a military man or something like that. I could pull it if I dig into it.
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Aremu and PDP are the worst thing to happen to Nija. Yes, i pray that PDP implodes!, If you read my other write ups, i warn some decieved people in PDP that their days are numbered. I agree with Wole Soyinka that PDP is a nest of Killers. After they killed OGB, Harry and others, i knew they will definetly turn against themselves. Even in my support for Ngige, i maintain that he that dines with the devil will always be tainted. My support so far for Ngige is because the people are benefiting.
So all that are Otinkpu not just for PDP, but for the present system will reap all they sow.
We must join hand for change of system, For u its through realization of an independent Biafra, for me its for a just and fair society where all shall have opportuntiy to attain their highest potential and justice and equity shall reign supreme!
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quote:My support so far for Ngige is because the people are benefiting.
quote:For u its through realization of an independent Biafra, for me its for a just and fair society where all shall have opportuntiy to attain their highest potential and justice and equity shall reign supreme!
Please stop the antics, it's getting so old. How many billions of years do you and your kind need to attain "a just and fair society where all shall have opportunity to attain their highest potential and justice and equity shall reign supreme?" The crap you wish for will never, ever, ever work in that society and the earlier you quit bothering me with ideas like this the better we begin to search for a real solution which is a total separation from the present system.
quote:We must join hand for change of system,…
And so it will be, AMEN!
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True talk by Fr Ogundele. The nest of killers and bastion of corruption called PDP will soon collapse: **************************************************************************
The recent happy events in the PDP By Emmanuel Ogundele ANY close watcher of the Nigerian political scene has a lot to ruminate on considering what has happened within the PDP in the last couple of weeks. The intrigues should not be unexpected since the PDP is not a party based on principles, positive ideology or in any way positioned to serve the Nigerian people. For one thing, it was only created to exploit, oppress and manipulate the Nigerian people. Rising on the ashes of the old NPN, it has nothing to offer the masses of our people than to cheapen, attenuate and even destroy the culture of democracy in Nigeria. Just as the NPN succeeded in this mission, the PDP will also succeed in the same onerous mission in the present dispensation. When our so-called leaders boast that democracy has come to stay I wonder what they mean. This statement is arrant nonsense since we are not in a democracy. We are rather in a dictatorship and a one-party state. The Nigerian political elite is again at its worst especially in the PDP and one can only pray that the rest may soon be history. When Senator Waku said about three years ago that it is better to have the military back than for Obasanjo to continue as president all hell broke loose. But today, I wonder if anybody will blame the man too much. If the former national assembly wanted to impeach the President for constitutional breaches and abuses what they had then could be considered a child's play in the light of the present situation. The PPD has shown clearly that it is not a party for decent people and that its aim is to rubbish all the sacrifices made by Nigerians to bring about this democratic dispensation. As a people today, I think we are more despondent and less hopeful for a better future because of the way government is carrying on. Nothing is getting to the masses in spite of the fact that we make more money now from crude oil than ever before. Life is a lot harder and harsher for ordinary Nigerians today than in the days of Abacha. Instead of