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Greg and Njiko,

You guys got it going on!

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MeBiafran Nwannem,

I doubt if these guys will stick their heads out of their holes any longer than it takes to write one line; or perhaps writing just doesn't come easy for them. I find myself wishing we could get these rascals to put down their positions clearly in print so we can have a chance to dissect their minor brains. Natural selection should have rid us of them a long time ago. They are really like dinosaurs in the space age; practicioners of medaevil butchery in a civilized world. They say that the Muslim Arabs taught the Greeks algebra. That sounds about right since numbers take up less brain space than words. Their language skills, inevitably are less developed. At any rate, they are certainly short on words, unless of course they are part of a mob on a quest to satisfy their bloodlust. I don't think we'll hear from this Umaru again, unless it is to drop his one-liner and head back to his hole.

Brother, you do me a greater honor than I deserve; but thank you for your kindness.

Speaking of kindness, I think both you and I, and many of our brothers, would not mind...would even prefer to be kind to Muslims, if we could really expect the same from them. The sad truth is that, from the point of view of their "religion," this is an utter impossibility. And because we are enlightened as to what their religion teaches and demands of them, we know we cannot trust any fair words coming from them. They are taught to deceive their enemies(unbelievers) in order to get an advantage. I don't care what others may say, I will always have a care to my life and safety in an Islamic environment, or under a Muslim controlled government. Any non-Muslim who does less is a fool, and may one day lose his head, literally, or his hands, or his feet, or his fingers, or his toes, etc. Barbarians all!

[ February 01, 2005, 04:24 AM: Message edited by: Greg ]

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Greg:

I hear ya, hang in there. You torment the hell out of the unbelievers in FREEDOM with your sensible and wise posts. I can see most of them are now on the run because you overwhelm them with superior presentation even their one-liners are not cutting it for them anymore. Hehehe!

People,

Here's how some House members feel about the joke that is about to happen. In BOLD are my questions and or comments at some point I threw in the towel and quit asking for obvious reasons, no sense.

quote:
House Members Move Against National Dialogue.
To file suit in Abuja court •ANPP protests, as TMG gives condition
From Ahamefula Ogbu, Kola Ologbondiyan and Chuks Okocha in Abuja, 02.01.2005

Opposition to the National Conference on Political Reforms heightened yesterday when a group in the House of Representatives which claimed it has 111 signatories commenced plans to stop the dialogue. THISDAY gathered that the legislators behind the move have briefed the law firm of Yakubu Maikyau to file a suit in court challenging the conference and the power of the House to appropriate N932 million budgeted for it.

THISDAY, also learnt that the suit against the reform conference would be filed today at a Federal High Court in Abuja where the constitutional issues that may hinder the dialogue as planned would be canvassed. Those behind the suit are said to include members of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) House caucus and all North Central zone lawmakers in the House cutting across party divides.

Right move in the right direction. You go guys!

Briefing newsmen yesterday, Hon Victor Lar, described the action of President Olusegun Obasanjo in convening the dialogue as an agenda for "confederation". Lar said since the lawmakers were not party to the dialogue, they will not be used to vote money for the programme. He added that if the President so desires, he could use his contingency vote to fund the conference. Going down memory lane, Lar submitted that no similar conference in the country had worked. He cited the Aburi accord and the one organised by the late General Sani Abacha as examples. While blaming prolonged military rule in the country and paucity of ideas of the leadership for the sorry state of the nation, he regretted that while Nigeria was raking in billions of dollars from oil sales, the populace was wallowing in unprecedented poverty. Lar said all the issues raised by Obasanjo as being slated for discussion at the dialogue had been adequately taken care of in the 1999 constitution. He observed that for the President to even contemplate convening a national dialogue was an admission that all his travels around the world seeking solutions to the nation's problems failed to yield fruits.

Excellently put, Mr. Lar. Obasanjo’s charade should not be allowed to go on without at least someone with enough common sense telling the world what he’s about… Fraud!

He described as “a practice in double speak” claims by Obasanjo that one of the objectives of the conference is to reduce the cost of governance. "He (President) has over 100 advisers and assistants and he claims he wants to reduce cost of administration. His budget is more than that of a state. He sees the National Assembly as excess baggage and what he spends on his travels is above their budget. "He is coding a message for confederation because when he is talking about a hybrid between the presidential system and the parliamentary system of government, he is talking of no other thing than to discard the old order for a new one and he cannot instal a new order without amending the 1999 Constitution. If the forum does so, then what will the National Assembly be doing?” he queried.

Tell it Mr. Lar, just go on and tell it like it should. Obasanjo is full of double lying misspeaks.

He continued: "Obasanjo set up a committee to go round this country, we invested over N2 billion on that committee. I want to say that the balloon of the National unity that has been flying, Obasanjo is taking a pin to puncture it. What is likely to happen is the collapse of the states in Nigeria? I doubt Mr. President's sincerity in what he is doing. "I foresee three things the President is aiming at. He probably wants to be the last President of a united Nigeria because we are seeing each ethnic nationality writing its constitution and yet we are allowing this dialogue. "The other reason may be that Obasanjo is scared of a Northerner taking over power from him. In the conference, the South South or South East may insist on getting the power or dividing Nigeria. "The other thing may be that he wants to create a justification for him to continue in office beyond his tenure due to the problem he wants to create. He wants to abolish the National Assembly by proposing to abolish Local Governments and constituencies. He is selling a dummy to those following him".

Try separate nation for the latter (East). Of course the man is scared to his pants over what a northern junta would mean to him and his cabal.

On whether the National Assembly was ready to fight the cause, he answered in the affirmative. He added that the problem the legislators have was that of weak leadership, which he said may have to be changed for the lawmakers to have the requisite muscle to discharge their constitutional responsibility. "The problem of the National Assembly is leadership, not necessarily compromise, but timidity on the part of the leadership. If we have to make progress, we should change National Assembly leadership, especially those of the Constitution Review Committee. (Deputy Senate President) Nasir Mantu is now a minister of sorts who lately has been performing more executive functions than Legislature. He is not a serious person to head the constitution review", he said.

Didn’t someone tell us this mantu guy is a street plumber, the type without a clue, no education, no nothing?”

He pointed out that the expression "fashion the way we should go" as envisaged by the political conference means secession since the constitution has already defined the way the country should be as one indissoluble entity.
He said with this latest development the “honeymoon” with this administration has come to an end, as the lawmakers were no longer prepared to be hobnobbing with it.

Also, the ANPP has complained that the four slots allotted to it is inadequate. National Chairman of ANPP, Chief Don Etiebet said yesterday in Abuja that the party has accepted to participate fully at the conference, but that it is not satisfied with the four slots allotted to it. Etiebet, who said that the party is participating because it believes in the indivisibility of Nigeria as a sovereign nation, appealed to members of the Conference of Nigeria Political Parties (CNPP) to accept the two slots allotted to it, instead of boycotting the conference.

This is Nigeria for you, while he kicks against the four slots allotted to his Party, he’s busy telling another Party (CNPP) to accept a misery two slots. What an A.S.S.!

"We received a letter from the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) allocating four slots to the party. We discussed the matter at the National Working Committee (NWC) and we agreed to participate, but we rejected the four slots allocated to us as a party." He explained that upon enquiry on why only four slots should be allotted to ANPP, "we were told that the criteria for the seats was based on the strength of the political parties at the National Assembly.” The ANPP National Chairman, however, appealed to CNPP not to boycott the conference on account of the two slots allotted to it, but to use the opportunity to present a strong two-man team, "as boycott has not solved any problem in politics."

Dummy, it has! Boycotting the crappy seminar would have ILLEGITIMATE written all over the damn stuff. Duh!

Etiebet hinted that any member of the ANPP that has a contrary view on the decision to participate stands the risk of being sanctioned. He spoke against the backdrop that members of the party in the National Assembly are dissociating their caucus from the conference. According to Etiebet, "this is a party decision and any contrary position on this, is personal to the person or persons."

Democracy alright! For disagreeing with a very unpopular decision a member risk being “sanctioned” so said our “learned” Party leader.

The ANPP National Chairman, however, refused to announce the names already sent out for fear that the government may disqualify some of them. He added that the party will not hesitate to substitute those who may be disqualified or rejected.

Why would any sensible government tell another Party who they should pick to represent them? Only in the paw-paw society the awusa call Nigeria. People, at this point I quit reading further since the stuff I’m reading is not making any sense.

He announced that the party would commence a national tour to access the party's preparedness for the national conference. But the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) is already gearing up for the conference as its 12-man delegation will be led by its Acting National Chairman Senator Ibrahim Safana.

THISDAY also gathered that the PDP has redistributed the 12 slots allotted to it on the basis of two seats per geo-political zone. It was gathered that Safana was chosen as the leader of the PDP caucus to the conference at last week’s NWC meeting of the party.
Other members of the 12-man team are expected to have been nominated by their respective zones to the office of the National Secretary as at press time. In the same vein, the Transition Monitoring Group (TMG) yesterday said it is worried about the signals emanating from the Presidency on the composition and mode of selection of delegates to the proposed conference. The group in a statement signed by its chairman, Festus Okoye, noted that the Presidency is giving a wrong impression that only ethnic and sectarian organisations have the key to the political growth of the nation. "The TMG will therefore participate in the Conference if the mandate of the Conference is properly defined and participation broadened to represent various interests and shades of opinion and tendencies in Nigerian federation. "Without broad participation by the Nigerian people the entire process of the Conference will result in a monologue and a meaningless jamboree with divisive undercurrents. The outcome of the process will also lack legitimacy, credibility and popular appeal, and will therefore be subject to rejection by the Nigerian people. "It is in the light of these observations and with deep concern that the TMG calls on and urges the Federal Government to provide effective machinery for adequate representation of all the segments of the country, especially civil society groups, in the Conference. The Nigerian civil society will not compromise its right to adequate representation and will also reject processes and procedures that will see the Federal Government nominating those to represent civil society groups and organizations in the Conference. “While we welcome and are willing to participate in the proposed Conference, if our concerns are addressed, it will still not obviate the need for more political conferences and dialogues at the national, state and local levels, where the Nigerian people will be free to discuss all issues and concerns that have crippled genuine democratic growth and development in the three-tier structure of the Nigerian Federation,” it stated. Meanwhile, Senator Yari Gandi (ANPP, Sokoto) yesterday described the proposed national conference as an "illegal confab" that has the capacity of stripping the National Assembly of its constitutional role of making law for the good governance of the country. Gandi, in insisting that the proposed conference would strip the National Assembly of its constitutional roles, maintained that all the reforms, which Obasanjo’s letter to the National Assembly itemised, are contained in the constitutional responsibility of the elected federal legislators. According to him, the National Assembly would also not provide fund for the take-off of the conference because the conference is not part of the Third Schedule of the Constitution that has been slated for appropriation.
Gandi added that, "absolutely, National Assembly represents sovereignty, legality and constitutionality. If the National Assembly should give in to anything illegal and unconstitutional, then the National Assembly is stripping itself naked. "I don't think any right thinking person in both chambers of NASS would vote for this illegality. It is like stripping ourselves naked. The function of NASS is to make laws for the people and good governance of the people of this country. "The good governance of this country includes discussing all the issues that were listed for the conference to discuss. So if we leave out all these issues, what then is the function of the National Assembly?" he asked.



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quote:
Originally posted by MeBiafran:

Dummy, it has! Boycotting the crappy seminar would have ILLEGITIMATE written all over the damn stuff. Duh!

Nwa-Maazi MeBiafran,

My brother,

Here is one of those rare cases where I take a somewhat contrary view from you my brother(Though not in defense of that ANPP fraudster), but I hope I shall aquit my conviction well, though I remain open minded to your anticipated counterposition.

Read on:
INSINCEREITY: PART 1A

INSINCEREITY AND FREEDOM STRUGGLE

The greatest problem a freedom struggle can ever have is one of understanding the limits of its strategies. In “Nigeria” “One-Nigerian” freedom fighters have usually grossly overestimated their limits and capabilities by imagining that their idea of “oppression” or “freedom” is the same as that of their next door neighbor. Ultimately, when “freedom fighters” arise, they are usually confronted with the cold hard fact that only their tribesmen may understand their interpretation of those ideals. If they then attempt to speak for others or to appear all inclusive, their message gets so watered down that in the end they end up representing no one. Not even the principles behind the ideals they claim to espouse.
For instance:
  • Only in Nigeria would you have an NLC who in the face of blatant election rigging would tell the complainants whose political voices have been robbed not to “overheat the polity, or else!”
  • Only in Nigeria would you have the grass-rootless NADECO ex-officios woefully failing in their supposed “civil rights” roles despite the abominable violations of this administration, yet “clamoring” for SNC on the supposed behalf of all, hoping that martyrs would arise from nowhere to help them attain their goals.
  • Only in “Nigeria” do the “One-Nigerians” shut their eyes to the suffering of others in the belief that injustice against others is permissible in order to mold them into a more united “One-Nigeria” failing to understand thereby that the causes for which others struggle, embodies the very same roots from which their own afflictions are nurtured, and in spite of the fact that most times the most “Holier-than-thou” “One-Nigerians” are often paying lip-service to “all-inclusivity” while in actuality playing the opportunists waiting game to benefit only itself at the expense of others.
In other-words, the bane of failure of “One-Nigerian” freedom struggle remedies remains gross and shameless insincerity!

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INSINCEREITY: PART 1B

LIMITS: SOME EXAMPLES OF EASIER STRUGGLES

  • It was easy for the founding fathers of the young United States of America to fight for its independence from Britain because most Americans shared an equal dislike for the arbitrary dictates of a remote monarch even though to different degrees. Still it was easier to rally great numbers of like minded people.
  • It was easy for Mahatma Ghandi to rally most Indian peoples to fight together on the same side against the British in order to gain their independence (though that India later splintered into other nations such as Pakistan and Bangladesh) because after the second World war the thirst for freedom from colonization had increased and it was no longer easy for Britain to justify holding colonies having defeated Adolf Hitler and Hideki Tojo with better propaganda.
  • It was easy for MLK to rally not only Black America and sympathisers to his cause because the civil war had been fought a century earlier and the Emancipation proclamation had been declared by Abraham Lincoln, also the US constitution existed which declares that all men are created equal, finally the second World war had been fought against Hitler and won with the sacrifices of countless Black troops and it was no longer tenable to maintain a Jim crow disposition to a people oppressed. The unity with which Blacks sought their freedom(no matter by what method) was one which a leader like MLK could tap even though he understood it meant great sacrifice, possibly his life, but it was easy for MLK to rally this force together in order to defy the system, so as to gain their attention.
  • It was even easy for the Pan-Africanists like Nkrumah, Lumumba, Kenyatta, Nyerere, Zik, and others to begin to seek and gain independence for African Nations because Europeans had begun to see that Africans were united in their desire for independence, and the general mood the world was more conciliatory to that demand again in part because colonialism was harder to defend with the Wests propaganda which had been needed to defeat the Nazis and facsists.

LIMITS: SNC, “NIGERIA”, AND NON-NEGOTIABLE INDIVISIBILITY ANY SOLUTIONS?

Obviously it would be a gross misrepresentation to label the superhuman struggles of the above leaders as easy, so in a way the term “it was easy for....” as used in the examples above, is deliberately meant to be exaggerrated in its relativity.
In the case of this presentation “it was easy”.... is used in comparison to the challenge that faces any “Nigerian” anti-oppression freedom fighter.
Because “Nigerians” have been decieved into believing that: The “indivisibility” of “Nigeria” is “non-negotiable”, the question of SNC will remain “non-negotiable” without a commensurate willingness of each ethnic group to demand it by force if not granted willingly which we know it wont.
In terms of demanding SNC by force, any strategy desirous of the end result called SNC, but without the sincerity to coordinate disparate groups with a view to motivate their followers toward more forceful demand demonstrated by simultaneous anarchy will forever stay lacking in the resolve to emmerge from under the yoke.

It therefore follows that any talk about SNC shorn of the grassroots following of the millitant masses, mobilized along ethnic but mutually cooperative lines of coordinated anarchy, is merely a talk of the WEAK, the INSINCERE, the GROVELLING, the LAZY, the DREAMY-EYED, the WISHFUL THINKERS, the PERMISSION SEEKERS, the EASY-LIFE BEGGARS, the “ONE-NIGERIA” HALLUCINATORS.

Herein lies the solution:
"Nigerians" should accept with sincerity that ethnic differences of approach are valid, and that developing a millitant support base to reinforce idealistic words with forceful action is the duty of every "Nigerian", and the only way forward.
Yet inherent in that solution lies the ironic differences between the limits which the "One-Nigerian" freedom gladiators face if and when they get serious, and the limits facing the great maestros above which in relative comparison, can somewhat come to be described as "easy".

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INSINCEREITY: PART 1C

OJUKWU DUNNITAGIN! HE REFUSES TO FOLLOW ENAHORO AND CO TO WALK OUT ON “NATIONAL DIALOGUE”

Much has has been made of Ojukwu going to participate in the “Dialogue” convoked by Olusegun Obasanjo. Why not???
Ojukwu attended the “dialogue” convoked by IBB, Ojukwu attended the “dialogue” convoked by Abacha, Ojukwu was there at “Aburi”. If Aburi could be renneged upon on the advice of Allison Ayida and others, what makes the insincereity of Obasanjo’s dialogue so novel that walking out on it is going to sting Obasanjo with sadness?

If Obasanjo wants to decieve the world what is going to stop him? A walkout?, By who? praytell? By people with loyal toops willing to die for them?
Meanwhile Enahoro’s relatives under a different name and body will surely sneak in to participate in the meeting.
Ojukwu’s position again is simply: Nothing is lost from humoring them by participating,
When/if they are ready to talk we will know!

But dont take my word for it, please review the following:

NATIONAL POLITICAL REFORM CONFERENCE: OBASANJO’S BABY SNC
quote:
Confab: Obasanjo woos Ojukwu, others
By Wale Akinola, Paul Odili & Ben Agande
VANGUARD
Sunday, January 23, 2005

Ojukwu himself said at the weekend that he hoped to be at the National Dialogue nothwithstanding his criticism that government had, by opting for the forum, created a dichotomy between itself and the Nigerian people.
“I hope I am invited or elected or appointed, certainly because there are so many things that have to be put right in this Nigeria,” the former warlord told Sunday Vanguard exclusively in Enugu.
He, however, explained his grouse against the conference: “The problem with a dialogue is that the pattern is generally us and them. I do not like that dichotomy, it should be a general family conference, involving everybody.”
“I always bow to superior argument; if they think that it is best to have an us and them situation, I hope I will be able to speak on the side of the people. And then we will see who will speak for the government,” Ojukwu added.



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INSINCEREITY: PART 1D

CONVINCING OTHERS TO PART WITH POWER, IE TO VOLUNTARILLY HAND IT TO YOU IN EXCHANGE FOR GOODFEELINGS

For someone else to be in a position to reluctantly hand power to another, that other has to have a way to compel them to do it. What army does Enahoro have with which to go demanding SNC from a Fulani-Hausa? Does he command the Armies of Biafra? Does he command the loyalty of Igbos whose issues are of no significance in his calculations? Does he command the armies of MASSOB whose thousands have been dying at Obasanjo’s hands without Enahoros comment? Does he command the armies of MOSSOP when countless Ijaws are massacred by a “democratic” govt whose rigging into power meant nothing to him? Does he even command the armies of OPC who do not count him as one of theirs, or has he passionately spoken with charisma and energized the aggrieved masses into a frenzy of matyrdom?

The answer to the above questions are a resounding NO!!!
The reason is because of GROSS INSINCEREITY!!! Enahoro and others like him suffered for no one, they cared about no one, and when others were suffering and dying when he could have lent his voice, he was busy playing GOOD BOY! To the Brits, GOOD BOY! To the Fulani-Hausa, GOOD BOY! To Obasanjo, in the hope maybe Obasanjo will sneak SNC past the unsuspecting Fulani-Hausa. It follows therefore that:
  • The vestiges of NADECO possesses no troops.
  • The vestiges of NADECO possesses no goodwill from the masses.
  • The vestiges of NADECO possesses no real grass-root masses following.
  • The vestiges of NADECO possesses no millitant martyrs who are willing to die for its cause.
On and on. Basically,
  • SNC The vestige of NADECO possesses no power, nada! zilch!

In conclusion therefore it is not easy to seek independence from oppression in “Nigeria”.
“Nigeria” does not exist, and since its “indivisibility” has in the past been made “Non-negotiable” by the likes of Enahoro, his walking out of a known meaningless charade setup by Obasanjo attains no real lofty accomplishments other than to draw attention to shameless powerlessness once more challenged to the reality to step up to the plate with SINCERITY.

See how the Fulani-Hausa regard it all:
quote:
FG’s proposed national dialogue is diversionary, says Honourable Adamu
By By HABIB YAKOOB, Abuja
VANGUARD
Sunday, January 23, 2005

The problems of the country, Adamu, like many others, said could be summed up under one title: “Bad leadership”. Once the leadership is focused, sensitive and above all legitimate, he reasoned that other problems of a nation could easily be tackled.

BADDD LEADERSHIP! YEP! THEY’RE THE ONE WHATDUNNIT!

I never read a Fulani-Hausa commentator who didnt believe that the system is excellent as it is, if not for badddd leadership. [Big Grin]

Let the gooood leader descend from heaven, and;
“Every-little-thing gonna be alright!!!... Baby don worry.......”

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NATIONAL POLITICAL REFORM CONFERENCE: OBASANJO’S BABY SNC
quote:
Why Nigeria deserves a Sovereign National Conference — National Concience Party
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VANGUARD
Posted to the Web: Thursday, January 27, 2005

The National Conscience Party (NCP) salutes the undying spirit of the Nigeria people, who have over the years recognised the importance of dialogue amongst the nationalities that make up Nigeria, its classes, labour, professional and civil society groups amongst......
.......We urge Mr. President to revisit the resolutions and communiques and emanated from the numerous conferences organised by his then Ota-based African Leadership Forum....

....... we condemn the privatization of hostel accommodation in the nations tertiary institution and the attempt to increase tuition...

....... We are disturbed by the undue attention being given to certain personalities who have expressed ‘interest in being candidate for the post of the president of Nigeria

What a powerful moving scary speech. [Big Grin] Obasanjo is no doubt shaking in his boots from those tough talking threats.

These are the weak, grovelling boneheaded cowards (minus Soyinka and Beko whom I like) without a power-base whom Ojukwu is supposed to have joined in refusing to attend the “dialogue”? Enahoro the Igbophobe and co? A bunch of pleading, begging, appeasing boneheaded elites?

Come on! Give me a break! These were the same crowd for whom Obasanjo’s rigging meant nothing. Is this all the leverage they wield? Man am already scared. I guess they should be given SNC just for saying it so nicely and politely like that.

Tomorrow they’ll tell you that “if not for Ojukwu "selling out", we came thiiiiissssssss close to getting SNC for you people” [Big Grin]

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EKWUEME AGAIN? NATIONAL POLITICAL REFORM CONFERENCE: OBASANJO’S BABY SNC

See how they lavish praise on our pa when they want to use him?:
quote:
Confab chairmanship: Will Ekwueme accept the offer?
By Sufuyan Ojeifo, Abuja Bureau Chief
VANGUARD
Posted to the Web: Saturday, January 29, 2005

It is the character and integrity that Ekwueme has built over the years, first in his private practice, then in government as Vice President in the defunct Second Republic, through his involvement in the G-34 initiative and his presidential aspiration both in 1999 and 2003 that speak for him today. While he was Vice President, he demonstrated an uncommon loyalty to President Shehu Shagari.
He was never known or recorded to have moved against his boss. His level-headedness played to his disadvantage when he was chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to the extent that this attribute was misinterpreted as weakness on his.......

I like that: “to the extent that this attribute was misinterpreted as weakness....”
By who?
Pray tell by who his “attribute” (of integrity) was misinterpreted (read misrepresented) if not by spinners of the Ojeifo mould? [Big Grin]

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OBASANJO’S BABY SNC: GANI TELLS THEM AS IT IS AGAIN
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Why this national dialogue will fail, by Gani
By By Chioma Anyagafu
VANGUARD
Saturday, January 22, 2005

I had always been saying it in the last two to three years that Mr. President has a hidden agenda, that he’s trying to go for a third term. I have said it several times that there is a hidden plan to be a sit-tight president. And that is the cause of all the problems we are having in Nigeria and even in Obasanjo’s party, the PDP. All these Audu Ogbeh, Ngige and several crises in the PDP are sponsored to work out a third-term for Mr. President. I saw this a long time ago. The national confab too is designed for that same goal too. The committee he set up is to review the constitution and make suggestions for amendment that will favour his contesting election the third time. He wants to insert the third-term amendment into the constitution and later seek an interpretation in the court.

WHAT GANI’S COMMENT SHOULD TELL “PRONACO”: YOU’RE IMPOTENT STOP WASTING TIME! GO BUILD YOUR BASE, AND BE PREPARED TO GIVE UP YOUR LIFE

Yes! Build up your base! And be prepared to give up your life. Instead of waiting for the Igboman’s complaints and struggle to make you look the “good boy”, and enjoy a few more years of “Ist tier second class “Nigerians” (Igbos are millionth class, yet everybody is mad at them [Big Grin] ), postponing the evil day for one more day in the sun.

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OBASANJO’S BABY SNC: FULANI-HAUSA MAN SPEAKS AGAIN
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Proponents of Sovereign Conference are a confused lot — Senator Girei
By Emeka Mamah
VANGUARD
Friday, January 21, 2005

I want to associate myself with the initiative of President Obasanjo as regards the National Dialogue. I have never supported the advocates of Sovereign National Conference because I have never believed in it and none of the advocates as far as I am concerned has come out to explain, how an SNC can be organised, including how the membership is going to be constituted, so as to be able to achieve a national objective that is in the interest of Nigeria. And I have always seen the advocates of SNC from three different perspectives. Some of them are confused, others are purely aggrieved because they feel they are completely left out of power sharing and are seeking for relevance and the third category is a combination of the two.

AKPU!!! (ie “one blow seven akpus”) At least the man gas spoken his mind!
These are the guys Enahoro wants to go and write English words for?

Eskuse me sah! Please sah! I sah! Tankyo sah! Sorry, Sorry, Sorry sah! but can I have SNC?.......pLeAsE? [Big Grin]

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........Continued from posting made on: January 27, 2005 05:49 AM January 27, 2005 05:49 AM
titled: ECONOMIC POWER EXISTS AT THE MERCY OF STATE POWER (REAL POLITICAL POWER)


In a previous posting, the suggestions were made by Nwa-Afor that what really ails Nigeria is not the lack of existing policy (by this I believe Nwa-Afor was making the honest mistake of mixing up “govt policy” with the concept of governmental structure enshrined in a constitution; a living document), but the lack of implementation. Going by that assumption, Nwa-Afor then went on to posit that “One Nigeria” has no real problems other than that badddd people have taken hold , and that should each individual if true to him or herself, be willing to abide upright behaviour (in the knowledge that “charity begins at home”), that “One Nigeria” would be back to her old glory again in no time sharp.


HOW TO FIX “ONE NIGERIA’S” PROBLEMS?

Toward this end and in particular regard to the problems plaguing Igbos, Nwa-Afor proffered some solutions to Igbos which if adopted by ordinary people in good conscience, and coupled with genuine effort by all to compel govt to implement existing policy to the T, most problems would be greatly reduced.
Those solutions go along these lines:
That each Igbo “Nigerian” person begin henceforth to;
  • ----Exercise civic duty to vote for Gani as president of “Nigeria”.
  • ----Buy land in Aba instead of Lagos
  • ----Change their dollars in Imo state with relatives instead of perpertuating corruption and lack of Igbo patronization by buying from mallams in Lagos or Abuja
  • ----Display more accountability by punching their time-clock correctly everyday
  • ----Refuse to give 5 naira to yellow fever
  • ----Criticize Igbos and Igbo leaders first and foremost before others

In addition to these suggestions which Nwa-Afor informed us he is practicing, I added the following (among many others not yet come to mind):
  • ----Refuse to go past the speed limit or under the speed limit by even one mile
  • ----Refuse to mount a siren in Lagos traffic along with all the others doing it
  • ----Refuse to Steal a naughty glance at pretty and or shapely women
  • ----Get cannonized to sainthood while still alive
AS IGBOS, WHAT REALLY AILS US?: QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD GO TOGETHER

In reading the suggestions above, one is compelled to wonder (aside from the jokes which I added to jazz things up a little bit) could these ideas really be serious? I honestly hope not. I honestly hope that we can go beyond putting down the first thoughts that come to mind and seek deep solutions which we can share commonly with the hope of refining it through the continued critique and input of others. To this end, below are some of the suggestions which I believe would help all Igbos and even non-Igbos, to review and contemplate if this experiment called “Nigeria” has worked for them, and to what extent:

For the Igboman, rather lamenting that our politicians have all gone badddd and rather than solely questioning how many of us Igbos invest their money in Owerri, Enugu, Umuahia instead of in Abuja and lagos?
Should we instead not be questioning the following:
  • Why is there a decrease in investment by Igbos in Igboland? Are Igbo investors just plain undedicated to Igbo causes?
  • Why is there a decrease in the number of Igbos returning to Igboland to settle and develop our area? Are Igbo citizens just plain undedicated to the development of Igboland?
  • Why is there a decrease in the impact made upon the development of Igboland by those who have always remained in Igboland, or should it be assumed that there is an insufficient number of people in Igboland to impact growth, development, and the emancipation of Igboland from targeted govt oppression? Furthermore, is it that they are lacking in the will to initiate development in Igboland?
  • Why is there an increase in number of those who would jump at the opportunity to leave Igboland and “Nigeria” in a New york minute if given the chance?
  • What role does the absence of real political power play toward the perpetuation of the ongoing malaise
  • Whose responsibility is it to obtain real political power for Igbos or to bestow real political power upon Igbos ?
  • Whose responsibility is it to ensure that the real political power with which we can hold our leaders reponsible for their failures is wrested from a system which imbues those leaders with an artificial power with which to subjugate us?
  • Other than just being baddd, why has there been a failure of Igbo leadership to recognize and arrest the above trends with a focused approach?
  • What has been the resultant impact of the prolonged assault of the above trends upon the Igbo Psyche and what will it take to get out of it?
These questions if asked would reveal that our problems go beyond self blame and beg for a more realistic assessment if we are to snap out of them at all. They say that a problem is half solved when it is fully defined and admitted. To misapply the saying that “Charity begins at home”, by equating it with self blame is to turn that saying into casual cliche.

ANECDOTE

If I am under a canopy and those who claim to own that canopy more than I do force me out to the edges where I’m partially exposed to the elements, but forcefully refuse my desire to seek another canopy, if I then buy an umbrella to give me a little more protection from the elements and avoid confrontation, and those who claim to own that canopy more than I do determine next that umbrellas are now illegal and confiscate that umbrella, and I then use old newspaper to shield myself, and the bullies repeatedly apprehend me for bribes while turning water hoses to spray water at me from the sides, there must come a point where I can no longer pretend that everything is okay and that I must first hold myself responsible for water splashing at me before holding the bully to account or confronting him to stop hounding me and foreclosing the opportunities for my protection, and to stop drenching me with water to boot.
This is the point which Igbos have now arrived at (That is if the muscle flexing bully is willing to listen).
How we prepare ourselves to make that appeal/plea/demand/petition, is what all Igbos should busy themselves with, instead of waiting till we all become living saints, in order for improvement to occur by osmosis.
In the above anecdote there is no suggestion what the solution can be. That part is what we could learn from our exchanges, but to suggest that we try to find one more fault one more time to correct before being eligible for basic fairness to accrue to us is what I’m still trying to challenge and understand

........To be continued on another posting

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UKA:

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Meanwhile Enahoro’s relatives under a different name and body will surely sneak in to participate in the meeting.
The way you put it finally cleared my tapered vision. Yes, these guys’ past mode leaves nothing to be chanced I guess Ikemba know them too well hence his preemptive strike to let the world know what he gonna do. Be there to defend our position just in case the damn charade turns into something serious with our absence. Here the story about how the chicken became the object of sacrifice comes to mind. The chicken's absence during a village meeting or so, caused those present to take advantage of the chicken’s AWOL to pass a resolution that the chicken will henceforth be used for sacrifice. I hope I got the gist right. LOL.

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“The problems of the country, Adamu, like many others, said could be summed up under one title: “Bad leadership”. I never read a Fulani-Hausa commentator who didnt believe that the system is excellent as it is, if not for badddd leadership.
No, no, no! It is only bad when they are out of power and into oblivion if not so, where was this adamu mallam when buhari, babangida, abacha, abubakar and their awusa advisers were ruining the country? It was ok then, the “leadership” was ‘fair’, ‘sound’, ‘focused’, ‘balanced’ and even somewhat ‘democratic’ in their cocooned mind. But once the northern arab terror gang are out of relevance you begin to hear these worthless words (bad leadership) as if we don’t know better. Forget them!

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If I am under a canopy and those who claim to own that canopy more than I do force me out to the edges where I’m partially exposed to the elements, but forcefully refuse my desire to seek another canopy, if I then buy an umbrella to give me a little more protection from the elements and avoid confrontation, and those who claim to own that canopy more than I do determine next that umbrellas are now illegal and confiscate that umbrella,..
Respected Gentleman, I see exactly where you’re going with this stroll, you make a great point and I hope our brothers see it too. In a nutshell, no matter how much we try these wicked “lords” of nigeria will always find excuse to trample on us. They may even declare rapid development in one’s state of origin by an entrepreneur ILLEGAL. It might also be ILLEGAL to move enmass to one’s state of origin knowing what this mass relocation will do to Lagos commerce and around the country, bring it to a standstill. Who knows what these semi-illiterates in government will do. You can’t put a thing pass these people. UKA, why then are the different foreign embassies unperturbed about the undemocratic maneuvers of the nigerian government?

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quote:
The chicken's absence during a village meeting or so, caused those present to take advantage of the chicken’s AWOL to pass a resolution that the chicken will henceforth be used for sacrifice
(LOL)MeBiafran,

My brother, thank you for that parable. It was hilarious, apt, and addresses the context accurately.

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UKA, why then are the different foreign embassies unperturbed about the undemocratic maneuvers of the nigerian government?

LUGARD MISTAKES? NAAAAA, ITS JUST DISPOSABLE BLACK LIVES, NO BIGGIE!

Nwa Maazi, my brother You got me on this one. One would have to go to the thread started by Ochiwar on "How Britain rigged The Election...." to understand why it has been so absolutely important for the structure to remain as is ("Nonnegotiably indivisible") in spite of the deaths of:
  • Thousands of Igbos, Tivs, some Yorubas and other Southerners in the pre-independence North.
  • Thousands of Igbos,Ibibios, Ijaws Efiks and other Southerners in the pre-Civil war North.
  • Millions of Igbos,Ibibios, Ijaws Efiks and other Southerners in the Civil war "Nigeria".
  • Thousands of Igbos,Ibibios, Ijaws and other Southerners in the post-Civil war North and from "sporadic" religious riots in which Igbos are dispossessed of their weapons after the fact by govt officials pleading "peace", arresting Igbos who survived, and killing and burying some for trumped up charges in unknown mass graves.
  • Thousands of Igbos, middle-belt Christians, and other Southerners in supposed "religious riots" in the post-Obasanjo North, many killed by "govt" troops who came in to "quell" the riots.
  • Ongoing Govt. sponsored killings since the IBB, and Abacha, regimes compelling Ogonis and other Ijaw nations to come together and make the Kaiama Declaration in their pursuit for self actualization, and the continuation of same killings by OBJ after OBJ took over, in order to placate shell and others. Many Ijaw souls have been butchered under this administration with the catch-all label of "Restive Niger-Delta Youths" a criminalizing phrase which is automatically intended to turn away Western gaze since its okay to murder the usual culprits.
    Anyone seeking clarifications can contact Ledum Mitee, one of the avante guard Ijaw advocates.
LET THE OIL FLOW!

I suppose once a mistake has been made, it must be stuck with in order to save face, and especially if there's still oil to be tapped and the Fulani-Hausa are understood to be the ones capable of holding that bunch under guard.

Let the oil flow! just send more military instructors in. Thats all!

WHAT LUGARDS INFANTS ARE DOING?

Well Igbos and Biafrans tried to wake up, and they had to be put right back in place.
The rest are busy quarelling and making up, heck, if no (well leveraged) other is speaking out as forcefully, then its just Biafrans alone aint it?

Again, no biggie!

DEMOCRACY!!!

Nothing but total VETO POWER for F