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Ojukwu's name not on the list? Somebody is playing games with Ojukwu. Anambra State Government claims that it did not nominate Ojukwu to avoid localising him and expected the Federal government to do so since Ojukwu is a national figure and an elder statesman.
In my earlier post, I have insisted that Ojukwu should have pitched camp with his fellow elder statesmen like Soyinka, Enahoro and Ranson Kuti.
Now, either by commission or ommission, Ojukwu has been reduced to political irrelevance in his home state and as well as in Nigeria at large. Chief Okorie will be laughing very loud and clear.
From the utterances of Okorie, he, Okorie should have made sure that Ojukwu was not disrespected and embarrassed. Too late now. Ojukwu did hurt himself with is unholly alliance with Umeh faction. Believe it or not.
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Ojukwu was not born yesterday.He knows and most times have taken fire from the murky waters of Nigerian politics.
Ngige would never have nominated Ojukwu for the simple fact that Ojukwu have stood adamant that Ngige must go.Even in the light of appeals from numerous concerned Ndigbo. Chekwas could not have prevented Ojukwu`s exclusion because he does not posses the powers to appoint or yeild his appointment to anyone as far as this confab is concerned.In the short run and the easy part, Chekwas is the man and the victor who became recognised courtesy of the confab invitation letter from Aremu.In the long run,he would need to return and run APGA as the party chairman.That is the hard part.
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Okay, if Chief Okorie is the man recognized by Obasanjo, why has Ojukwu been running to Aso rock for for talks with Obasanjo?
Ojukwu should stay clear from Obasanjo just as Enahoro, Soyinka and Kuti have done in order to salvage his already battered image and integrity following his reecent political mistakes.
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Ojukwu definitely made a mistake in taking Obasanjo on face value.In a way,i am gladened by his betrayal.A man like Ojukwu should be the last Igboman to take things for granted on face value.
Enahoro and Soyinka have done well by threading carefully with Aremu`s bag of tricks.Ojukwu definitely has a lot to learn from Soyinka and Enahoro`s cautious approach on national issues.I hope Chekwas learns from Ikemba`s bitter experience not to trust or talk too much
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Talking about hypocrisy, backwardness and confusion:
quote:The Muslim North Says heaven will fall if Religion and ethnicity are included At a workshop organised by the National Population Commission (NPC) for stakeholders in his state last December, Makarfi threatened to mobilise the Northern states to boycott the census if columns for religion and ethnic group were included in the data form. And in a rather curious manner, the National Council of State in its January 12, 2005 meeting endorsed the non-inclusion of religion and ethnic group in the census form.
quote:The muslim North reckons knowledge of religion and ethnicity ensures fairness! The meeting, which was presided over by the Deputy National President of JNI who is also the Emir of Gwandu, Alhaji Mustapha Jokolo, expressed dismay that out of the 393 selected or appointed members, 233 are Christians and only 160 are Muslims, thus giving Christians a majority of 73 over the Muslims. “To further entrench this imbalance in appointing the leadership of the conference, the chairman and the secretary, the two top officials, are both Christians.
Unless we send the most learning disabled sabos I don't see how these backward looking hypocrites will get away with decades of their unjust barbaric ways.
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Govt may alter youths' list, drops APGA chief From Martins Oloja Abuja Bureau Chief
THE list of delegates to the National Political Reforms Conference which begins today in Abuja may be altered to accommodate the agitation of a youths group and to correct alleged error in the nomination of the National Chairman of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Chekwas Okorie.
Some youths had on Friday protested the nominees for their cadre at the office of the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Chief Ufot Ekaette.
Ekaette was said to have been away at the State House to see President Olusegun Obasanjo.
But for the intervention of the SGF's Secretary, Mrs Biodun Adebowale, the youths would have clashed with policemen attached to the office.
They continued with the protest at the International Conference Centre and the Le Meridien venue of accreditation of delegates yesterday.
It was learnt yesterday that the Minister of Special Duties, Inter-Governmental Relations and Youth Development, Frank Nweke (Jnr.), has written to the SGF on the protesting youths and that action might be taken on their grievances. Sources said that a fresh list might be presented to the secretariat.
Also, it was learnt that the government has resolved the accreditation of the APGA chairman on the ground that the party is now factionalised.
The allocation to the Alliance for Democracy (AD) was declared vacant on the same ground.
You see? they are just playing with Igbo`s again.!!
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What do you expect? The National Conference that is about to kick off is NOT the people's conference. It is Obasanjo's conference and his hand-picked candidates that will serve his wish.
By the way, Ojukwu should not feel bad for not being appointed. Let's critically look at the picture. Governor Ngige wasn't going to appoint him anyway. (You know why). Was Obasanjo going to do so? No. It is only in the genuine people's conference being organized by Enahoro and company that "the people" can elect him.
This Nigeria sef.
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I didn't want this to get buried. Ochiwar originally posted it.
quote:Govt may alter youths' list, drops APGA chief From Martins Oloja Abuja Bureau Chief
THE list of delegates to the National Political Reforms Conference which begins today in Abuja may be altered to accommodate the agitation of a youths group and to correct alleged error in the nomination of the National Chairman of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Chekwas Okorie.
Some youths had on Friday protested the nominees for their cadre at the office of the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Chief Ufot Ekaette.
Ekaette was said to have been away at the State House to see President Olusegun Obasanjo.
But for the intervention of the SGF's Secretary, Mrs Biodun Adebowale, the youths would have clashed with policemen attached to the office.
They continued with the protest at the International Conference Centre and the Le Meridien venue of accreditation of delegates yesterday.
It was learnt yesterday that the Minister of Special Duties, Inter-Governmental Relations and Youth Development, Frank Nweke (Jnr.), has written to the SGF on the protesting youths and that action might be taken on their grievances. Sources said that a fresh list might be presented to the secretariat.
Also, it was learnt that the government has resolved the accreditation of the APGA chairman on the ground that the party is now factionalised.
The allocation to the Alliance for Democracy (AD) was declared vacant on the same ground.
Umaru Dikko, as predicted by Bala Usman, stopped short of removing his agbada over Friday working.
An Edo State representative reflected what most delegates probably have as their 'primary concern':
quote: Mr Ebohomian from Edo State was concerned that government made provision for hotel accommodation for two days. “Given that we have to move out of the hotel tomorrow (today) morning, I will like to know what happens after that. How much is being made available and when? This is my primary concern now,” he said.
As they didn't have even the constitutions to look at, the Chairman who by now already lost control, gave himself and Obasanjo another one week to have their heads examined:
quote: Justice Tobi consequently, ruled that the meeting stood adjourned till Monday, February 28. This did not go without protests from some delegates who felt that the chairman ought to have subjected the length of adjournment to democratic decision-making process.
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I am laughing so hard right now, Obasanjo hastily called conference seem like is going as scripted. How can you bring these people from different parts of Nigeria to come to Abuja and fend for themselves. Unless there is loot to be shared this conference will not last.
My brother, it seems apparent you intended to injure your readers with laughter! (lol)
So The chairman has already "undemocratically" and unilaterally declared vacation, while the hotel bill is ticking for some. Some like the Edo delegate are not seeing the "Rice and Stew Very Plenty" that they were promised. This is very critical!
Now their stay will expire before the actual show begins and the targetted ones will drop out in frustration while the chosen ones are presently having all expenses and per-diems paid up.
This way the so-called "delegates" list can be whittled down even more to reflect only those agreeable decoys Obasanjo has hand-picked to carry out his bidding.
Its all begining to look clearer now.
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Your analysis is right on the Money, those who could voice a desenting opinion the bill will be so much for them, that they have to drop out leaving Obj cronies to have a field day.
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Brother Biafra if they insist on staying, make enough noise, and demonstrate their willingness to be bought, an official of the independent corruptions tribunal will be there to give them their agreement to sign so that should they fail in their assigned duties when the conference resumes, they would promptly be arrested by the "Police" for "corrupt practices"
Tony Anenih had already worked it all out a long time ago. If it could work on Audu Ogbeh, who would be immune?
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This may be the litmus test on who leads APGA, what will INEC say or better still what does PDP want ? Why Okorie was dropped
Confab: ‘Why APGA Chairman Was Dropped’ From Chuks Okocha in Abuja, 02.22.2005
National Chairman of the All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Chekwas Okorie was dropped as a delegate to the National Political Reforms Conference on account of the crisis rocking the party. THISDAY gathered that a faction of the party led by Chief Victor Umeh wrote a petition to the office of the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), the secretariat to the conference, alleging Okorie is no longer the National Chairman and that he has been expelled from the party. It was also gathered that the faction threatened to lead a delegation to the venue of the conference to protest Okorie’s inclusion of Chekwas if his name was not dropped as a delegate. However, sources close to the office of SGF told THISDAY that a letter has been sent to the Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Dr. Abel Guobadia, to clarify who the National Chairman of APGA is. The source said "pending when we get clarification from the INEC Chairman, I am sorry, there is nothing we can do. Chief Okorie has to wait." When contacted an aide to Okorie said, “we are waiting on INEC Chairman to tell Nigerians whether there are two chairmen of APGA known to him.” It was also gathered that it was as a result of the factionalization of the Alliance for Democracy (AD) that the two delegates nominated for the conference were dropped. The source explained that one of the factional leaders, Senator Mojisola Akinfenwa wrote a petition to the President complaining of preferential treatment against his faction.
"It was as a result of Akinfenwa petition that the two delegates nominated by the Bisi Akande faction were dropped", the source said, adding that one of the nominated delegate from AD that was rejected was a former minister in the second republic, Alhaji Ibrahim Hassan.
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The exclusion of Ojukwu will do the conference and the nation no good knowing his level of importance in the political history of Biafranigeria. No matter his shortcomings I think Ohanaeze and the Southeast have made the greatest mistake by excluding him. It is high time that Igbos and Nigerians as a people learn to put aside their differences for the benefit of their people. How can there be a conference without leaders like Ojukwu, Nwabueze , etc. If political opportubnists like Orji Kalu and the illegitimate governor, Ngige can nominate delegates then who is anyone to say that Ikemba shoud not participate. Also the decision by the Government to drop Chekwas Okorie therefore making APGA irrelevant is a great lesson to be learned by Igbos and Biafrans that it is time for us to put our house in order. I believe we are our greatest enemies beacause of lack of respect and readiness to quarell with each other at any given moment. It is normal for a political party to experience crisis and grow over it but I must say that Igbos, Easterners, APGA members and himself OJUKWU should be ashamed that they could let disagreement between Okorie and Umeh split a party that many people and myself thought was strong and had good leadership. Can Easterners ever do something without having one big "coma" that will in the end be used against them? Ojukwu should have been smart enough to play the role of a neutral mediator. Ojukwu at his age and expereince should have enough sense to know that he should stand as a uniter, not a divider, knowing fully well the precarious position that we Biafrans are in right now.
Anyway as far as I am concerned, the whole conference seems to be nothing but a farce. Less than 5% of the delegates are women. Obviuosly that damned nation nigeria still has long way to go.
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Now the Igbo delegation to the confab have an email address to recieve memoranda from the Igbo public on this confab.The email address is
ohanezendigboconfab@yahoo.com
Our people especially those in advanced progressive countries can now reach the delegates with useful suggestions or ideas for the confab.I hope they would at least read our letters.
If you insist on still being in the same country do like the US senate system. Set all your states on ethnic lines and give them 4 senators. Or 2 states per ethnic group with 2 senators each.
quote:Originally posted by Greg Those who believe that these fundamentally opposed groups can co-exist in peace, equity and mutual respect delude themselves. Why talk with people who have two standards; one for those who believe as they do, and one for those who don't.
Affirmation:"Why talk with people who have two standards...."? Good question Greg. The answer is that those doing the talking themselves have two standards and have had ever since independence was sought from the British, and have had ever since they advised Gowon to rennege on Aburi (an agreement forged like cod steel in hot fire) for no justifiable reason other than the primordial fear and jealousy (of Igbos I suppose) which has always blinded Enahoro and others from failing to see their ceding of their manhood to the Fulani.Why be in a country with them? Why talk with the UN? They've got bad standards too dumby. Why continue to point out the obvious and not act? Why do Africans do that so much? Havent you estblished yourselves as blood enemies? GO TO LEVEL 2 NOW!
quote:Originally posted by Greg I personally think that if there is to be such a dialogue, it should be among the ethnic groups of the South apart from the North. A confederation along these lines would bear better fruit[
Affirmation:Totally agree again here, yet such a dialogue can only happen on the basis of mutual outcry and mutual tactical support. By this I mean that each group must cry out simultaneously, desist from undermining the other for the sake of short term advantage, and especially desist from encouraging or tolerating efulefu among each group who stray to take advantage at the expense of their own group.
You have done that to death. When will you learn African that short term fixes will always bite you in the ass years later? Seperate and get it over with. You are like the beaten wife who keeps comin back for more!
quote:Originally posted by Ukaobosi In many countries non-violent protests have done much to bring political change but the repression of civil dissent in Nigeria is perhaps greater than what was in certain dictatorial South American countries in the 60's and 70's.
Affirmation: Indeed non-violent dissent is seen as a sword which must not be tolerated. In a place like "Nigeria" dissenters are labelled armed robbers and killed by deathsquad gangs who waste and bury them in mass graves to the unalarmed calmness of those southern tribes who believe they're not affected, or that they are in favor, or being woo'd as political brides. Later they keep wondering why all their daughters are turning to the prostitution profession and their sons turning to male prostitution for Fulani customers.[/quote] The people in South Africa protested and failed. So did Somalians. So did Namibs. Give it up it just doesnt work! Get a clue and read about the Romanian Revolution. South American dictators are always temporary I might add. They arnt the norm but a disturbance.
quote:Originally posted by Greg There are only two occurences that can possibly effect the radical change needed in Nigeria. One is international(and therefore economic) pressure, and the other is armed conflict
Affirmation: Bingo! and I shall say no more. THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY DOES NOT CARE. THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY only protested Apartheid when all other hot issues ran out. THEY DONT LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRICAN DUHH. The UN let ITALY A DEFEATED AXIS POWER keep Somalia as a colony from 1950-1960. You see the UN had a choice between giving Somalia independence but for ten more years made them colonies to the "bad" guy of WW2. From 1918-1990 Namibia was South Africa's colony. THE UN let Namibia be a colony from 1945-1990!!!!!! The UN will not recognize Cabinda's legal right to independence or Somaliland's.
quote:Originally posted by Greg Please understand that I am not advocating violence against any state; I am simply making an observation based on past historical events.
Affirmation: Maaaannn you are understood and highly appreciated. How then will you avoid Nigeria? Nigeria is the problem and the International community does NOT care. With those two in combination you realized that basically leaves you in the room alone with the bull and other kids with the teacher not around to stop him.
quote:Originally posted by Greg If peaceful change is to occur, don't expect others to do it for us, there must be an expression of the will of the people that is so profound that the whole world takes notice.
Affirmation:Again Ditto. Could'nt be put better.PLEASE. The "World" diddnt care about MAU MAU, diddnt care about the Ashanti Kingdom, diddnt care for Biafra, STILL DOES NOT CARE for SOMALILAND REPUBLIC (succeeded from Somalia, look it up please!) so why would they ever care about you? Its all a game. They want drama. Why dont Africans have the courage to avoid the UN? You people are too quick to try and please others, too passive, and always trying to suck up to get allies and immitate people to death. Your African robes at UN meetings barely help you regain dignity. If anything you dont deserve suck robes of the past.
quote:Nigerians are not one people. Americans are not one people. Ukranians are not one people. Ghanians are not one people. South Africans are not one people. Russians are not one people.
We can decide to live as one or go our separates ways, that will not solve our inherent problems. Accountability, sincerity, responsibility, justice and fairplay we see us succeding as a nation. Even the Southerners in Nija are not one people. Even the Igbos are not one. Let us fight for justice, accountability and for a responsible govt.
There is no hope. The goverment will never be fair. Do you have the intelect of a baboon? What dont you understand that different ethnic group in charge=corruption? How are you going to fight for justice? In another pointless protest no one cares about? The biggest way to get around protesters in Africa is just to take another road thru town. Once you realize what that means you'll understand how to get rid of dictators and goons. Will you as an African EVER LEARN? The whole point of Nigeria was for White Britons to exploit you due to ur ethnic strife. Why are you still to dumb to understand that? Are are Igbos not one? If you splinter why stay igbos? If Swazis can have Swaziland why cant Delta's and the like? Why do Whites in San Marino, Monaco, and Andorra get countries but African ethnic groups who want them and happen to have resources dont have the courage to get them? If you were at all smart you would've asked for Soviet help. You should've promised them anything or the US anything. It has become clear that without putting ur self in debt for a period to ontain independence is the only way to prevent your stupidity from ruining the chance at statehood.
quote:Orgininally posted by Biafra Brother Ukaobasi Just take you time and take care of those young Igbo biafran Americans. The rain this year have been something else. it rained all day here yesterday. Anyway my brother like we used to say keeping coming and keep exposing the fraud called Nigeria. Obasanjo will not live for ever, let him continue to drink all that kai kai in ASO Rock, Abacha faith await for him.
The fraud named Nigeria has been running wild sense 1960. When will this "fraud" be brought to court and exstinguished? I put quotes around fraud because it is rediculous and plain ignorant at this point in time to be still at the exposing corruption stage. What type of a simpleton are you? Do you posess enough brain cells to understand that Nigeria must be destroyed, ethnic based countries must be estblished and all thoughs stupid enough not to realize that executed?
quote:So, when these clueless northerners flex saggy muscles, they need to be made aware of what time it is - 2005 AND NOT 1966!
It loox like 1959 to me. You are slaves of imperialism. What kind of a idiot waits for an attack to finally come to a conclusion that living with enemies would require civil war but not at the moment. That type of bafoonery makes me wonder how you are still alive.
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People, I too have been on ‘University of Romland’ for further 'studies.' Not yet graduated though, I just couldn’t resist the lure to come out to swoop at a scavenging opportunist in the making. For a period the room seems orderly with friends, brothers, and foes engaged in mostly civil review, that is, until the emergence of pebble excreta as you can see if you look hard enough. With a different approach of omitting names maybe he's forced to submit to a superior power. Trust me guys, my thrust will be on this person who don't seem to get it. It does not take a rocket scientist to see his signature in the making, difference this time being subtleness of first post.
quote:Perspectives: Harebrained By Chuks Iloegbunam VANGUARD Tuesday, January 18, 2005
If we want justice in this country, we must consider the idea of parity among the geopolitical zones. This means that if the North-West gets 36 of anything, the South-East must also get 36 of that same thing. After all there is no scientific proof that the North-West boasts a bigger population than the South-East. That is one. Two is that suggestions on representation in any national conference was properly articulated and disseminated in this country. But the government listens to nothing. Why can’t we have a proper conference of ethnic nationalities? A conference in which no ethnic group has more members than the other. We waste our time. Or, rather, those who claim to know all the answers are wasting Nigeria’s time, resources and energies. If the grand idea is to rubberstamp a constitution already crafted in the Abuja god’s image, it means, at the last word, that the struggle continues.
Numerous writers have expressed disappointment over the abuse of time by obasanjo's illegal government as a result nothing concrete will be achieved by this mockery of a dialogue or whatever the hell you want to call it. As for me, a WASTE is indeed a waste of time!
quote: It is normal for a political party to experience crisis and grow over it but I must say that Igbos, Easterners, APGA members and himself OJUKWU should be ashamed that they could let disagreement between Okorie and Umeh split a party that many people and myself thought was strong and had good leadership. Can Easterners ever do something without having one big "coma" that will in the end be used against them? Ojukwu should have been smart enough to play the role of a neutral mediator. Ojukwu at his age and expereince should have enough sense to know that he should stand as a uniter, not a divider, knowing fully well the precarious position that we Biafrans are in right now. - Odili
My dear, it is for the reason given by you that I kinda abstained from the Ojukwu discussion. Had he as you suggested played the fatherly role of getting the warring factions together the embarrassing episode would have been avoided but no, he prematurely joined those that never had love for him at the expense of Okorie whose loyalty was total. To worsen already tensed situation the man refused to acknowledge his own miscalculations/mistakes. So, is he above reproach or beyond human errors?
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