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With the following disturbing, yet hard to believe derailing leadership, it's certain the future of the Igbos is now permanently on life support.
I think the papers were more direct than I have seen in this fora. The fiasco is nothing more than Ojukwu being bribed, meaning he would do anything for money. I am shocked. Listen to a crying Chekwas Okorie:
Chei! Unbelievable! So the hero speaks Yoruba fluently? Holy Moses!
Anyone who thought Ojukwu was smart and a man of unstated charisma should think again. Whither Ojukwu's espionage and let's talk about one Nigeria, folks!
Personally, when I read that piece in another website, I was not thrilled. What bothered me most was Ojukwu's stand on SNC/Obasanjo National Dialogue.
When Ojukwu's party chose Obasanjo dialogue over SNC which he, Ojukwu campaigned on, then and then alone that I know that "water don pass garri."
Honestly speaking, for Ojukwu to abandon Enahoro, Soyinka and Beko led SNC and allign with Obasanjo, folk, something is really fishy.
Ojukwu, afterall, may not be perfect.Though, nobody is perfect. But, you know what I mean. Or if I can just come out and say what I mean. Put simply, Ojukwu has been talking wity Obj and therefore, may not be trusted. Ojukwu is looking for "Eba" now. Won't you look for yours now?
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Ojukwu is human. He has the right to make decisions and either stand by them or change his mind. He is also a politicians. He could be all this and more, but u can never accuse him of stealing from the people like IBB, OBJ and other policticians from Igbo land.
So how can u call me a traitor? a traitor to whom? Okorie or to the igbo cause?
He could be a politicians politician, but never a traitor.
Ineba Jimoh, Let us talk about Jakande, or Ebenezer Babatope, those to me are the real traitors not just to their people but to the whole nija.
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I do agree with you, There is more to this APGA bruhaha than meet the eyes. First of all Chekwas cannot run APGA as a personal domain, yes he founded the party, however once other members joined the party, it becomes a public party. Umeh is an Igbo guy and most leaders members of that faction are also Igbo.
For Ojukwu to have made a decision to abandone Chekwas faction must have been for a very good reason. If the reason is for the Obasanjo's socalled Conference, I will hold further comment until more information comes out.
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Ineba Jimoh,Thank you for your unsolicited predictions and advise here.One wonders why this issue bothers you so much when you just another sworn Igbo hater here.If you can educate this distinguished forum on the real issues troubling APGA party that informed Dim Ojukwu`s decision you are welcomed to do so.But,if you are just another nonetity who glees at any imagined or percieved Igbo set back whatsoever,do youself a favour and shut up!
Rick, Enahoro,Soyinka etc that are clamouring for a SNC are truely not the originators of that clamour.While Enahoro could be a repented nationalist,the fact that for whatever reason, he played a principal role in the drama that brought Nigeria to this mess cannot easily be erased.Ojukwu understood that we as Nigerians needed to talk.He had maintained that position since returning from exile in 1982.He has been severally accused of a hidden agenda to break up Nigeria for simply advocating a dialogue.Many reasoned that only the defeated Igbos were really the second class people that needed that talk show.Maybe time have now proven them so gravely wrong,i don`t know.Ojukwu`s assesment might be that since it took so long to even get the powers that be to agree to let Nigerians talk,this might be a chance of a life time regardless of how imperfect it`s name and the Chief convoking personality.
quote:Put simply, Ojukwu has been talking wity Obj and therefore, may not be trusted. Ojukwu is looking for "Eba" now. Won't you look for yours now?
I too like others found some of our man’s actions troubling but remember the man is yet to say a word. We’ve only heard from Okorie who might have been in bed with aremu all this while until Ikemba out played him. Please fellas let’s wait and see. Deep down inside me, I believe he has good reasons for playing safe with aremu. What if, just what if at last Ikemba is able to persuade aremu to forget IBB or better yet if the baton is handed over to IBB, he may be in a batter position to negotiate our fate?
Biafra:
Kedu?
quote:For Ojukwu to have made a decision to abandone Chekwas faction must have been for a very good reason. If the reason is for the Obasanjo's socalled Conference, I will hold further comment until more information comes out.
Indeed, maybe he found out okorie was double dealing and after aremu showed him the evidence Ikemba did what most of us would, withdraw from a python. Just guessing although I wished we had ignored this useless thread.
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That ojukwu speaks yoruba fluently does not make him a traitor. I dont think he learnt it today. And by the way he also speaks awusa fluently. For him to be having factional problems with Okorie does not make him a traitor. For Him to be having discussions/negotiations with obj.does not (yet) make him a traitor. Its politics game. I still give Ikemba benefit of doubt.
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Mebiafran, You made the right point.Pa Jimoh or whatever his name is would be gleeing that we are attracted to debate in this sacrilegious abominable thread.One can really never convince an ignorant man.I think these fellas should be ignored with these distraction threads they open and more energy spent on useful topics in the house.
Let us not allow the powerful bond between Dim Ojukwu and Ndiigbo be rubbished by alarmists. I agree with MeBiafran who said "maybe he found out Okorie was double dealing."
Let's keep our fingers crossed and give Ikemba the benefit of the doubt now that the student union has 'expressed outrage' at Okorie's comments.
quote:NANS chides Okorie over attack on Ojukwu
By Chukwudi Achife
Bureau Chief, Enugu
Nigerian students have expressed outrage at the indignity in the comments of the National Chairman of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Chekwas Okorie, against Chief Chukwuemeka Ojukwu’s decision to accept the offer of the post of National Leader and Chairman, Board of Trustees of the party from the Chief Victor Umeh-led faction of the party.
President, National Association of Nigerian Students (NANS), Mr. Tony Nwoye, told journalists in Enugu on Wednesday that Okorie's utterances amounted to an attempt to ridicule Ojukwu, saying it was “most unfortunate and unbecoming of Okorie.”
He said Ojukwu remains “the biggest asset of Igbo people and the undisputed leader of the Igbo nation,” adding that any attempt to portray him in bad light, as Okorie has tried to do, would be resisted by Igbo youths.
Nwoye said: “I ought not to comment on issues that bother on partisan politics because of the integrity of NANS, but I am pushed to the wall to speak because of the unity of the Igbo people and Ojukwu’s sacrifice for the Igbo.
"We advise Okorie to go and sort out his problems with his colleagues in APGA and answer allegations of financial impropriety levelled against him rather than be castigating Ojukwu who has no hand in his predicament.
“As a member of Ohaneze youths, this should be the last time an illustrious and distinguished Igbo son would be ridiculed in the pages of newspapers by politicians for their self-seeking interests.
“Consultation and mobilisation of youths in Igbo land are in top gear to stop this unwarranted attack on our respected leaders. We warn those politicians who think that they can pull down their leaders in their bid to attain political relevance to know that the youths are watching them and they will soon meet their waterloo.”
The NANS leader whose association had earlier expressed support for the proposed national dialogue on political reforms also appealed to other stakeholders in the polity including major groups like the Conference of Nigerian Political Parties (CNPP), pro-democracy groups and civil society organisations to embrace the dialogue.
He said the decision by these stakeholders to stay out of the dialogue would do no one any good.
He therefore, urged the Federal Government to widen the scope of participation to give room for different shades of opinion especially the opposition groups to contribute their quota.
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To all the Biafranists: welcome friends! We've been waiting for many years to welcome you. Now that the myth of Ojukwu is falling down (meanwhile: you ain't seen nothing yet), let us all meet and face the real troublemaker of Africa: the demarcation lines as drawn by Europe in 1885/86. Forget about Ojukwu's Biafra! Ojukwu is not a person to trust. Today is January the 28th. By June the 15th 2005 all of you Biafranists will have nothing good to say about Ojukwu anymore!
Wanna bet?
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Othaniel is back again this time as jewel. This guy cannot stay away from this place,. if this place ever closed down Othaniel/Jewel/Biafara will go kuku.
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Whatever happens, Ojukwu is now officially the leader of the Anambra faction of APGA. What was the Ikemba thinking? How much money did they give him?
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Folks, Those of you who are real Igbo's here should relax and please don't buy the silly posting by some fools here, who are known Igbo haters. The post below might interest you.
Ojukwu is a strategist. I am not alarmed yet by this decision assigned him. I have tossed it and have tossed it. There are strategic reasons that can be posited for this turn of events. Did you notice that the Umeh group are not jubilating or making victory pronouncements? There is something to it. On my own without any hint from the inside, I will say it has strategic significance. When you have 3 children, and one is kidnapped, or is sick, you will go sleep or stay with the sick one to make sure it does not die. Ojukwu has not said he has abandoned the Okorie faction. All he said was that they asked him and he accepted. To prevent further infights, it makes sense for him to accept that offer. Who should he leave it to? By accepting it, he puts himself in position to effect peace and tranquility plus reunite the two factions at the right time. Ojukwu is APGA in public eyes and like a true father, he chased after the run way child to bring it solace and warm its heart. Uneh needs a way out of his quagmire. His face must be saved.
To be frank they news gave me big joy strategically after taking a critical look at his possible reasons. It means APGA is in a sqafe hands and not in trouble by means of an enemy as we have feared. Would you guys rather have Obasanjo as Umeh's chair. I am very comfortable with Ojukwu dealing with Obasanjo than either Ekwueme or Ubah doing the dealing. It is what we demanded of Obasanjo and he is doing it. We asked him to legitimize his work by dealing with our true leaders. He is now talking to our trusted leaders, and my heart can not be warmer. Okorie should be patient as his armour is not perturbed. We trust Ojukwu and we are very very sure that he is that one Igbo that when he say the devil is good we will agree.
So my people, this is a political move that makes million senses. Ojukwu will not support evil about Igbo. I think what Umeh did was return what he stole to a rightful owner to save his face. We are happy that Ojukwu acted the way he did and we have our Igbo alternative party back in the right hands and tracks. Ojukwu can be lead person in both party factions as a way to resolve the problems. He is their godfather and icon. He is a man we trust. The idea of trust is you jump when you are asked without fear. Anytime Ojukwu says Obasanjo is no more enemy we will also believe him. I am confortable with any moves that came from him no matter how urgly it may seem.
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With all due respect, that write-up is laughable. It is indeed idiotic. Ojukwu is not known for being a great strategist. Thus far, people followed Ojukwu because of the justness of his cause and the transparency of his leadership style, which he has now clearly ultered. Ojukwu's strategy for Biafra failed. His strategy as an NPN party man failed. He tried repeatedly to register his own political parties, and he failed. So, where are the political successes of this master strategist? Ojukwu has been followed because of the rightness of his cause, not because of the successes of his strategies.
Ojukwu had been consigned to political irrelevance until Chekwas Okorie's APGA put him front and center in BiafraNigerian politics. He should put his ego in check and show a little loyalty and gratitude. Loyalty begets loyalty. When the SSS had Ojukwu's neck a few months ago, it was Chekwas Okorie that made sure the world knew about it and forced the Nigerian criminals to stand down.
If he continues on his present course, it will not be long before Ojukwu resorts to using mobile police men supplied by his enemies when moving around Igboland outside his Anambra enclave - the same way he invaded Aba with Shagari-supplied mobile police men after Ojukwu foolishly joined NPN on his return from Ivory Coast. It seems that Ojukwu has learned nothing.
What you submitted is the product of the confusion in the author's head. With one foolish stroke, Ojukwu threatens to divide Igbo people. That a bunch of hooligans from Anambra, led by Umeh and Tim Menakaya planned a coup against the founder of APGA is treacherous enough. That Ojukwu failed to see the implications and suspicion that his joining those hooligans would arouse shows that Ojukwu needs to have his head examined. It is even more damning to note that money changed hands from Obasanjo to Ojukwu to effect the sabotage.
If this is the only way that APGA could restore Peter Obi's mandate, I say let Ngige stay in office, rather than destroy the reputation Ojukwu spent a life time to build. That is if the destruction has not been completed already.
Only Ojukwu's errand boys and people with personal hatred for Chekwas Okorie will support Ojukwu's stupid actions in this regard. Ojukwu is putting a knife in the things that hold Igbo people together, and he is working with our enemies and Igbo Efulefu to do it. Quite simply, it is asinine to describe Ojukwu's behavior in this regard as "strategic."
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It would be a great mistake to under estimate the Ikemba`s strategic acumen. Ojukwus strategy on Biafra did not fail. Rather Biafra failed because the international community cut of all supplies of arm and amunition to Biafra, while the world super powers ganged up to provide Nigerian troops with the latest technology in abundance. The fact that Biafra, which Gowon proclaimed would be a police action managed to hold on for as long as it did testifies to his strategic abilities.
quote: after Ojukwu foolishly joined NPN on his return from Ivory Coast. It seems that Ojukwu has learned nothing.
politics is not a black and white thing. If you read between the lines you will find that Ojukwu had no choice but to join NPN. that was the price he had to pay for his amnesty and pardon. Or why do you think shagari called him back? Let us not bury Ikemba until he is dead.
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I guess Ojukwu is being "strategic" in APGA the same way that Ifeajuna, Banjo, and Njoku were being "strategic" in Biafra. For their effort Ojukwu executed the ones he could. If there is any shred of truth in the "strategy" theory, the Ikemba had better start speaking, and fast. Otherwise, next time his enemies go after him, we might be tempted to conclude that it is all about "strategy," and there is nothing to worry about. You don't engage in bold-faced treachery and pass it off as "strategic" manoeuvre, just because your name is Ojukwu. What sort of strategy did he need 71-years to perfect?
Thus far, the only person that has been out-manoeuvred is another Igbo man, Chekwas Okorie, who knows Ojukwu better than most, and has thus far not found Ojukwu's gimmicks to be funny. It should be possible to remove Ngige without sacrificing Chekwas Okorie and handing APGA over to Obasanjo.
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Ike could not have put it any better. As we say in Igbo oto na nke ato! This is a man who has been given the benefit of doubt several times by Ndi Igbo who are not known to worship individuals. This time, I am afraid that he has self destructed. He has consistently shown extreme selfishness but Ndi Igbo have persistently turned a blind eye because " He is being strategic".
The truth be told, Ojukwu has disappointed a lot of people who had believed in him. His action cannot be defended. He has allied himself with people who want to divide Igboland. His treatment of Chekwas Okorie is indefensable. Here was a man who formed APGA,and against a lot of opposition handed it on a platter to Ojukwu. Let us not forget that in so doing incured the wrath of the likes of Umeh, who was appeased by being offered the Treasurer position. It is this same Umeh that Ojukwu has allied himself to.
We should all cut the **** and accept that he has blown it big time.
Any future plan towards the improvement of the lot of Ndi Igbo must not include a place for Ojukwu or any other individuals. We should promote ideas and not individuals.
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Ojukwu has alrady been judged from you guys through the words of Chekwas. Ojukwu is yet to tell his own side of the story.
It is human behavior for anyone to disparage his boss especially if that person is fired from his post. Chekwas has been stripped of his post therefore, he has every right to take prisoners with him. But does that mean that applied reasoning is an oversight?
Hail Biafra
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