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Brothers:

So much has been said about the the corrupt government of Nigeria. So many infallible proofs of institutional murder and theft have been made public. So many instances of blatant Northern subjugation of the South have been pointed out, and having an SNC under the auspices of the powers that be is like having a church convocation moderated by devils. Why are we trying to prove these things over and over again? The international community doesn't seem to care about us though they know right well what is happening there. Could it be that they are waiting for us to make our voices heard and our collective will known? It is in the interest of nations to have accurate intelligence concerning areas which may be, or one day be in their national interests. Nigeria, because it has oil, is in the national interest of many nations. Whatever momentous events happen in Nigeria will immediately get the attention of the world. The oil wealth belongs to the people who live on that land where it is found, not the other way around. The international community will take notice when we stand up for ourselves. Therefore, I have a hard question to ask. It is a question that begs a day in the light of the sun. If you live in Nigeria and are afraid your identity may be known, please do not respond to this question. You may be putting your life in danger.

Should there be an underground para-military group representing all the peoples of the South-South able to combat the tyranny of the North and show that region that we are serious about our freedom to determine our own destinies. Should such a group seek to cut off oil revenues (which is their lifesblood) to that region? How would such an action affect the North? Is it wickedness to deny our enemies and the murderers of our mothers and our children our wealth?

Remember, South Africa had its African National Congress, once outlawed, but now the leading political party. Can there be justice in Nigeria without the force of arms giving that nation a "hard push" toward true democracy?? But and if we fight, it must not be as before, but we must learn from the Vietnamese how to defeat those who have riches.

Perhaps I should have made this topic a poll. A simple yes or no will do since I did not.

[ January 28, 2005, 05:33 AM: Message edited by: Greg ]

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Yes,
Some form of civil disobidience would be needed to make our leaders take our outrage seriously.Freedom is not and has never been free

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Yesssssssssssss!

Personally I have strong belief that this is way over due, pal. Like njiko rightly reminded us, freedom is never offered on a platter of gold so, I don't understand the crying and whining of our folks, nigerians generally speaking. Let's get the damn thing rolling!

Nope! It would not be an act of wickedness to deny our enemies what's rightly ours. It is rather extremely WICKED of these marauding filths to endlessly display their cupidity at gulping something that belong to us. Guys, I relocated to that stupid country in '95 during abacha's tyranny and the hurt I felt over the so-called PTF, remember her, Petroleum Trust Fund headed by none other than the chief islamist, buhari. The funds generated from this scam was used to develop the screwed up north at our expense. These folks from the north are truly heartless one then wonders what gain their chief cheerleaders (Yoruba) get from cheering them on? It was a fuzzy type of mathematical formula that was used to dispense a far greater percentage of the Petro-dollar to the northern area that by the way produced the least amount of tax revenue accrued from the purchase of petroleum products? They have the least number of vehicles plying super northern highways built with my, your money yet they fools never showed any consideration. I HATE the land!

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Me Bia-France
jealous over hard-working nigerians, right? Are you not ashamed of yourself? Living in the States propagating war for Nigeria. Will you join the battle in Nigeria, or you'll just cowardly easy back into your farting-chair, and watch it all on CNN?

Now that even the most hardened indoctrinated biafranist is about to see the true money-hungry ugly nigerian face of Ojukwu, I wonder if biafranists such as yourself, have the balls to come out OPENLY and apologize, and state OPENLY that you were wrong about "Biafra" - so damnly wrong???!!???
I doubt that you have the balls and the guts to do it.

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Jewel/othniel

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jealous over hard-working nigerians, right? …Living in the States propagating war for Nigeria. Will you join the battle in Nigeria, or you'll just cowardly easy back into your farting-chair, and watch it all on CNN?
Another silly or rather stupid awusa fool? If you can and do understand what you read, you did seen, “I relocated to that stupid country in '95 during abacha's tyranny…" Asshole, this IGBO here would relocate there in a heart beat to fight all you bastards!! I already discussed this with my wife long before now. Oh by the way, I prayed hard for your stupid country to make the mistake of her life by going to war with Cameroon but they wimped out. Tell me again who’s “hard working?” For sure the Yoruba laziness is known but the awusa laziness screams for attention. If you’re so proud of your ethnicity, boy, you did tell the forum whence you came so we can assess the level of your understanding and hard work.

Guess what, you will soon be kicked out yet again for your constant violation of the board rules. BNW is not your lawless nigeria where anything goes so you better go back to your original and authentic handle, othniel.

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Me Bia-France
what a foul-mouth! A fine role-model you are to your children, those nasty little untrained rats. Tell me, that wife of yours, does she agree with your Biafran madness?

Your silence over Ojukwu's corrupt behaviour, which is no surprise to enlightened folks, speaks volumes, my dear little deceived biafran cult follower!

Biafra, the land of your ancestors? Wait a minute! You mean to tell me that some naked barbarian, twin-killing, women-discriminating, demon-worshipping cannibal living in the River Niger area in the year 1556 AD called his land "Biafra"?

Get off my back! You need to go and get yourself some education, man. You're making a fool of yourself believing such BS.

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Jewel/othniel:

You are really a fool! How much training could a loose bini woman had given to a wayward offshoot? Here's what I said about the situation, "I too like others found some of our man’s actions troubling but remember the man is yet to say a word." - Mebiafran.

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Your silence over Ojukwu's corrupt behaviour, which evidently is no surprise to enlightened folks, speaks volumes, my dear little deceived biafran cultist follower!
Obviously if your bini/yoroba folks could confirm with a convincing proof how Ikemba connived with your father, the master thief, obasanjo to stymie BIAFRA the land of IROKOS based on the so-called phone call, this writer would speak against it until then shut you’re a.s.s, will you?

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Me Bia-France,
your biafran paper house which you've built for so long, is now falling apart. Things are really falling apart. You must now choose how you would like the story to end for you personally. You want to end up like Okonkwo, who refused to accept reality? Think deeply, man!

Believe it or not, I have sympathy for you biafran guys now that you are about to see the fullness of Ojukwu's falsehood. Be strong in the days and weeks which lie ahead of you, my little foul-mouthed friend.

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Jewel/othniel:

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You want to end up like Okonkwo, who refused to accept reality?
You tickled me with this quote. lol. I found it hilarious, man you got me, I owe you one.

Little boy, before you write a word again just scroll through all my previous writings there you would find that CONSITENCY is like a middle name to me. All I've always wanted from all is to shine the light on anything that is inimical to the survival of ORDINARY folks back in that paw-paw land. I'll be FOOLISH to blindly back Ikemba if it's proven that the man did anything to derail our collective goal, which to me is about justice, fairness and freedom ala BIAFRA. So, I don't see any room for your early insults towards him or me for that matter. In the same vain, one wonders why your squeak is never heard when any news that have some to do with your folks is released, for instance the latest news about the new thief in town, tafa balogun, ogbeh, obasanjo’s murderous quest etc? Maintain objectivity then some of us that see you as misguided might have a rethink.

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Me Bia-France
so, in other words, after shouting "Hosianna", it's now time to shout "Crucify him", right? Why then are you now subtilely separating yourself from Ojukwu? That shameless tactic will not work!

You will be surprised what the international press is going to reveal about Ojukwu. Morons like the you-robber names which you've mentioned, are well knows thieves, stealing public money. That's no news. Tell me something which is new. Even the news which is only yet unfolding about war-fetishist Ojukwu is no news to me.

And about the "squeak never being heard": go ask the BNW admin why.

[ January 28, 2005, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: Jewel ]

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Jewel/othniel:

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so, in other words, after shouting "Hosianna", it's now time to shoud "Crucify him", right? Why then are you now subtilely separating yourself from Ojukwu? That shameless tactic will not work!
What is there to be separated? I've challenged you to link us to where I stated unequivocally that my presence here was mitigated by Ikemba. It is no secret what drives me... BIAFRA/Igbo freedom so, quit amusing yourself, son. Or are you jealous of my principled tenacity in standing for what I believe is wrong, the daylight robbery of resources from my zone to our disadvantage? For the uncountable time, if you and your cabal could reveal whatever the cookies you have on the man and it's proven to be against our benefits then I'll join you to denounce his act until then keep stroking yourself down below.

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if you and your cabal could reveal whatever the cookies you have on the man and it's proven to be against our benefits then I'll join you to denounce that act....-me bia-france
Me Biafrance,
smart assed-guy, right? Fear did not allow you to spell out Ojukwu's name and include it into the above quoted sentence, isn't it so? You are afraid! There's fear written in that statement of yours.

Like I said, I have sympathy for you biafran guys. Just remain strong, grab something to hold onto! You'll need it! The press is getting ready to unleash a verbal tsunami about Ojukwu's corrupt behaviour.

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Jewel/othniel:

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The press is getting ready to unleash a verbal tsunami about Ojukwu's corrupt behaviour.

You're beginning to make less sense young man. If your fake press "unleashes" his "corrupt behavior," would he be the first in that worthless land? For it to be such a great news to you and your entire state means you've all along known that he's intact, don't you? How come you've not written squat about the stealing and murderous ways of your president, sunday afolabi, tafa balogun, aninih, ogbeh, lawal etc? BTW, it was not necessary to continue to repeat his name or are you referring to the same cowardly act of yours by not putting my handle on your posts?

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Oh, good! You've now seriously began to separate yourself from this worthless man, who sent millions of innocent people into death. Your tone now is no longer "Ojukwu stands for integrity and honor", now the new tone is "after all, Ojukwu is not the only one who's corrupt in Nigeria".

What a shameful thing to say for someone who has been praising "the integrity, the moral and high values" of Ojukwu for many years. This simply reveals the broken backbone of the neo-biafranist movement!

Don't worry, my little scared friend, when all is over, we'll get in touch with you, and show you how to properly organize and effectively conduct a revolution.

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Jewel/othniel:

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"Ojukwu stands for integrity and honor", now the new tone is "after all, Ojukwu is not the only one who's corrupt in Nigeria".
The man is not even confirmed to have done a thing wrong yet it did not stop a yam head, you, from making animal waves. This is how slow I think you are by being mad at yourself because of your disappointment over my lack of support for something that could go contrary to my belief. You had hoped that I would prematuredly join you to insult someone that is yet to to be proven to have done anything wrong.

Tell us, tell the world what Ikemba did this time that is wrong while I remind you that your uncle, aremu killed bola ige and many others. Are you capable of meeting any of my challenges at all?

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Jewel/othniel,
One truely cannot understand you.Do you have any evidence of corrupt dealing perpetrated by Ikemba?If you do,it would be good to attach it to your posts to make sense.Because,sincerely one really can`t make any sense from your numerous out of point posts.It seems like you are only interested in arguing unfounded speculations not facts.

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Jewel, it's obvious that you are the same little sneak who masqueraded as Othniel, Conundrum, and others. What gives you away is the way in which you address MeBriafran. Conundrum did the same thing. I shall forthwith report you to the webmaster. We don't need dishonest and low-lifed characters on this board. This is a place for intellectual debate, not your kind of gutter talk, which is indicative of your level of ingnorance.

All: I think the Nshi response is appropriate here.

MeBriafran,

Please ignore this person called Jewel/Othniel. Let him curse and stamp until he is removed for violating BNW rules. This fellow must be a criminal at heart, and probably a convicted felon. Therefore have patience; broken homes and disreputable parents can sometimes cause this sort of deviant behavior. We may never know.

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Greg my brother,this jewel is truely NSHI!
The man is completely disoriented in speech or expression.I just can`t understand him.What Sex ! again?

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Njiko,

Yes, I am afraid that is the sad fact about Jewel. But what bothers me more is how he hijacked this thread. Brother we are all aware that in the last two weeks or so the topics have become increasingly controversial(witness the subject of this one). This is what brought Jewel and others out of ROM land because they just couldnt bear the progressive direction of our discussions. Don't mind them however, because they won't lift a finger to help us in our struggle. We however will use them and their anti-Igbo rhetoric to prove what we have been saying all along, that they are Igbo-phobic and jealous. We can easily live apart from them but why do they want us? especially since they hate us so badly. The truth is they don't want us. They want our land, our oil, and our money. They would gladly kill us all if they could get away with it.

Brother, not many have responded to this thread and I think I know why. It is somewhat dangerous to do so, especially if your IP address can be traced. I understand this and in a way wish I hadn't posted this topic. But it had to be voiced in public. People need to know the seriousness of the situation. Greater sacrifices than this will have to be made before self-determination for the peoples of the South is a fact(Biafra). It is but a small one for me compared to what may lie ahead.

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Don't be alarmed Jewel is still one and the same, disruption is his usual armor.

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Jewel,
I advice you check into a mental hospital for help. You are a sickman. When you nigerians begin to insult Ojukwu the way you've started,I think someone should call 911 immediately or bundle you to mental home because you need serious help.

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I will now answer my own question.

Yes!

We must fight. We must stop the flow of oil so that our resources may be preserved for us and our children. This will also stop the flow of income to those who oppress us. They cannot produce anything useful or contribute to an economy, so if the oil revenues stop, Northern hegemony will come to an end. The world will more quickly notice our struggle when the price of their petrol goes up. Let's dump the Muslim deadweights!

We have a political arm. Now we need a para-military one to give a push to the corrupt politicians of Nigeria. We should leave to the leadership of such an organization as to what are legitimate goals. Persons involved in this struggle should be duly sworn and ordered to perform their duties in the service of their people and nation, so that they may without doubting, give their all for the same.

[ January 30, 2005, 05:56 AM: Message edited by: Greg ]

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Should there be an underground para-military group representing all the peoples of the South-South able to combat the tyranny....
Greg,

My brother they say "discretion is the better part of valor" You have not been deserted, but some may be reacting to the wording of your question.

When I think that the South-south also includes such characters as Tony Anenih and Omo-Omoruyi, then I hesitate.

These characters seem to enjoy bathing themselves in the pigsty for personal gain, given the number of their daughters selling themselves in commercial quantities as prostitutes in "Nigeria", Europe, and elsewhere, an eternal stain of cowardice against their courage and manhood during their watch in which the mighty Bini empire has been rendered prostrate.

While they bask in vain self appraisal of their impotent court-jester tricks and skills in Machiavellian intrigue to undermine the Igbo nation, why should any Igboman loose sleep on their behalf?.


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Brother, not many have responded to this thread and I think I know why. It is somewhat dangerous to do so, especially if your IP address can be traced. I understand this and in a way wish ....
Greg,

My brother, IP or no IP, Anaghi ebu ala ebu! (no one can lift the ground over his shoulder. i.e futility!) I remember bro Wacko saying something like this somewhere.
In other words let anyone dare their worst.

Igbos have already shown what they're made of, and the theatre was one in which we were responding to Britain, Soviet Union, Egypt, the "Nigerian" stooges, and Igbo traitors combined. Which other nation on earth can boast to have done that?

Not even the USA!

We survived that trial run, but our resolve is etched in our hearts as in stone. When the day of battle comes no matter how many times, no doubt we shall be prepared.

Eternally, not even one inch has given! Islam or no Islam (whether we are found living in Niger, Chad, or even in Mecca).

In fact Islams Nemesis may yet prove to be the Igboman.
It is better they seek no converts among us, else they be debriefed and disabused, and haplessly converted by us. [Big Grin]

Poor souls! [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Greg

having an SNC under the auspices of the powers that be is like having a church convocation moderated by devils.

I ask any Southerner worth their salt (including the Tony Anenihs and the Omo-Omoruyi's), how can this have been put any better than brother Greg put it?

No other way!

We may humor them and participate in their dialogues, and monologues, and conferences. When they're serious, we will know!

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Brother Uka,

You are right as usual. Discretion is quite often an overlooked but useful application of wisdom, of which I may have been sadly lacking(in my own opinion). My frustration with the unending abuses of political and economic power sometimes causes me to be a bit premature in judgment, and I will seek to remedy this by more circumspectly weighing the content of my posts. Rash outbursts can sometimes give the enemy an advantage. This forum is not the place for a discussion of this sort. And so I ask all not to contribute any further responses to this thread. In another place and at another time, if the need arises, I will continue a discussion along these lines. For now the title itself is enough to show my seriousness and my resolve.

[ January 30, 2005, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: Greg ]

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