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The respected one,Ukaobasi, That is why it is so productive each time you appear on the scene.Thank you for the post above.All those who single mindedly want to insult Ikemba for all sorts of perveted reasons have not forwarded one single material or quote to buttress their point.I really donot wish to join issues here with some whose main preoccupation is to pick quarels and curse uncontrollably without addressing the real issues.
While i agree completely that every leader Ikemba inclusive should always earn their loyalty,an irrational and indeed derogatory demand that respected Igbo leaders should wash their dirty linen on the pages of newspapers to satisfy some warped personalities here is most mean and uncalled for to say the least.How many of them would disclose their own family quarels on the internet or the newspapers? Ikemba may be right or wrong in judgement for joining forces with the Vincent Umeh faction.But until the true circumstances surrounding the facts are known,attempts to quickly come out of oblivion and cast mud on his character by certain individuals who are not even better informed themselves expose their severe prejudice and calumny on Ikemba ab initio.
Maaaan, You're something else! Between your patient self and Chima Njoku's noble efforts among others, You stood the ground on that contrived thread whose main aim was to goad Igbos away from the thread "WHAT A CONFERENCE" started by Mankelv. Greg definitely saw thru it from comments of his which I read.
VENTING IT ALL OUT: LEGITIMATE AND PHONY RAGE DISPLAYING A FACE
It appears that many genuine Igbos are genuinely concerned about the manner in which Chekwas Okorie one of our SOUND leaders had been dealt.
I'm all for venting out rage, but it appears some had siezed the opportunity to start something else headed in a different direction from what should be a sincere appraisal.
Some had alredy started accusing Ojukwu of being a traitor, and suggesting that he took a bribe of such paltry amount as 1/2 a million Naira to do the job.
Some already started philosophizing in the "I told you so mould", accusing others on this board of Hero worshipping Ojukwu (something to that effect), for merely pointing out that a patient review is desired, since "There's no smoke without a fire".
WHO'S AFRAID OF BEING MISLABELLED? C'EST NE PAS MOI! NON! NON! NON!
If defending Ojukwu's character and demanding that those Igbos and Non-Igbos alike who accuse him of one thing or the other without proof can be construed as holding him beyond reproach, then let me climb the podium to accept on behalf of myself and many others the title of "Ojukwu blind follower" or any other such title.
Ojukwu remains an Igbo Icon for struggling in Igbo interest, and anyone who desires to pull down that icon in order to symbollically attack what Igbos stand for, is up for an uphill and tireless fight to provide proof beyond reckless innuendos against him.
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In the end these three things remain:Distraction!, Distraction!, Distraction! and the most scurrilous of these is; Distraction.
HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET?
Not so long ago, we wanted to find out:
Who would attack Anambra state and kill 29 innocent Igbo's for nothing?
Who would attack Anambra state/Igboland and bomb and destroy the entire state infrastructure without government apprehending and charging them for treasonable offenses?
Why would the govt of "Nigeria" allow an abominable offense to go unpunished?
Why would the "president" of a nation have known about confessed election rigging and have allowed it not only to hold, but for three coups against the state government to occur against the "governor" of the state?
Why would the destruction of a state be aided and abbetted by the passivity of the Police force and all the paraphenelia of govt power?
Why would a governor's mansion be bombed in broad-daylight only for the act of terrorism to be overlooked by the mere excuse of "ongoing investigations"?
the list goes on and on and on....
"NIGERIANS" ARE YOU DRUGGED? OR AS STOOPID AS LUGARD INTENDED YOU?
Only recently we have been treated to:
OGBEH DISMISSAL TRICKERY
TAFA BALOGUN "VOLUNTARY" RETIREMENT
NATIONAL DIALOGUE DECEPTION
APGA SPLINTERING
What gives???
Can Peter Obi now be given his mandate? or shall we bask in another round of distractive deception thanking Ngige for killing MASSOBIANS because he built roads and payed government employees as any legitimate governor of the state is supposed to have been doing in the first place?
What gives people? have the deceptors crept in here too?
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Venerable Ukaobasi, Ngige undoubtably committed a criminal offence by his unholy alliance with Uba in order to win the 2003 elections.Having said that,he equally deserves commendation for the massive people oriented programmes of his administration.No matter the circumstances that eventually led to Ngige`s withdrawal from the Chris Uba`s evil cult and transformation into a somewhat Robin Hood.We should condem his evil past while also acknowledging his good present.It is up to Peter obi to decide if Ngige deserves forgiveness or not.That is if OBJ does not already have a spare Governor pending Dr Ngige`s downfall.
Yours is a bounty of wisdom with which I'm in complete agreement my worthy brother.
RELINQUISH MANDATE TO RIGHTFUL OWNER, BEGIN TO RECIEVE MY UNALLOYED PRAISES.
The only difference of opinion between us lies in my belief that Obi must be given his mandate first before I start praising Ngige for his notable achievements.
Once he assists in turning over the mandate to Peter Obi which one would have expected that a sincere man (deserving of praise for sincereity would do) would complete the loop of goodness by doing what should have been done in the first place.
He would then become my champion, and far beyond the stratosphere, I would thence begin to hail him to highest heavens. In fact I would volunteer activities toward voting him for office in the future as an Igbo leader, in any other future capacity for which he campaigns.
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It's was an option to have to pressed the ignore button. Nonetheless, what made Nwa aro to leap out of his self inflicted marginalization will also serve as a lesson to most of us; in proposition, it's not easy to abandon this village in the manner that Nwa aro did, a situation that can be blamed on his poor choice of long term judgment and classlessness.
The Gran maestro Ukaobasi,
Thanks for those kind words. I am baffled that many wolfs actually pretend the meekest sheep while patiently waiting for the opportunity to devour their long awaited nemesis, in other words,your stand is exact ally as good as mine, those that are gloating over Ojukwu this or that has to be prepared and equipped for a long stretched devastating struggle on their side, if Dim's sins are that a stolen mandate should be handed over to the rightful owner,among other things, then, let it be that my type will be ready to sink and be buried with him. It stinks like stench filled pit that 'Nwa Afor' of all people will now turn around to preach Robin Hood to this well informed audience based on the excuse that an armed robber and a serial killer/rapist that wake up to discover himself trapped and threatened to death by his accomplices will decide to award scholarships to his victims to escape the hangs man while holding fast the loots. what is the chief victim suppose to be doing?.
Yet, I still stand that Chekwas Okorie is still a worthy Igbo son, his disagreement with The EzeIgbogburu is still within salvation and Dim Odemegwu Ojukwu is equal to the task, it remains a matter of strategy.
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quote: Having said that,he equally deserves commendation for the massive people oriented programmes of his administration.No matter the circumstances that eventually led to Ngige`s withdrawal from the Chris Uba`s evil cult and transformation into a somewhat Robin Hood.
My able and respected brother, I do have issues with the above in the sense that whatever 'good' to the people of his state ngige is doing was born out of the situation he found himself since he could not afford to take the people by being apathetic and at the same time worry about uba. The dude has no other choice. What is he supposed to do, embezzle state funds while he’s fighting uba, aremu and co? This is purely a tactical maneuver not about good governance; he's doing it to save his skin from the peoples' wrath and garner their sympathy. Like our main man said, what's keeping him from going to the tribunal and saying to the dubious Judge that they should rule in Peter Obi's favor? BTW, the Obi guy is beginning to look suspicious too, his eloquent silence screams for arrest.
The Great One, UKA, please check your PM you have a message from your ROMLand ardent fan.
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Mazis Amadi, Biafra, Chima, MeBriafran, Njiko, Nwa-Afor, Ochiwar, Okwy, Onumaraekwu, Ukaobasi, Waypoint, and other intelligent and discerning lovers of Biafra.
Ndeewo nwannem. Your labors to educate some as to the far-reaching political implications of this present issue have not gone without admirers. Not one of you has said that he is satisfied with the outward appearance of the late actions of Dim Ojukwu, but have rather wisely counseled that judgement ought to be witheld until all facts are clearly known. Unfortunately, some have disregarded your wisdom and have fallen squarely into the hands of Igbo detractors who will eventually use their words to disparage Biafran Actualization.
Politically astute persons, like yourselves, recognize that Ojukwu, though human and not infallible, is inextricably linked to the Biafran idea of independence and self-determination. No amount of error on his part, or personal dissaproval by others can change that. His name and person, by the work of Providence, is forever symbolic of the Biafran Republic no matter what occasion is found to criticize him. Lovers of Biafra wisely separate his humanity from his symbolic importance. Ukaobasi put it this way...
quote:Ojukwu remains an Igbo Icon for struggling in Igbo interest, and anyone who desires to pull down that icon in order to symbollically attack what Igbos stand for, is up for an uphill and tireless fight to provide proof beyond reckless innuendos against him. --Ukaobasi
Had he, for instance, been arrested and executed by Gowon in 1970, what sort of symbolism would that act have left in the hearts and minds of Nd'Igbo; nothing short of the complete humilation, death and burial of the Biafran dream. Fortunately, that did not happen, and contrary-wise, he is alive, and remains for us a symbol of the struggle for Biafran independence, something our enemies wish was not the case.
What other human being can cause so much apprehension and consternation among the Nigerian ruling elite as when Ojukwu tries to leave the country. They are not afraid of his humanity but what he symbolizes.
What other man in Nigeria can get the attention of world leaders as can the first head of State of historical Biafra. It is not his humanity they respect but rather what he symbolizes.
What other person is so reviled by the enemies of Biafran Actualization. It is not Ojukwu the man that they hate, but the Biafra he symbolizes.
They rightly reason that to destroy his symbolic stature is in effect to discredit the Biafra all of us want(if our enemies understand this why can't some of our brothers). He is called our warlord, and a traitor, by all the enemies of Nd'Igbo. Well, if he was a traitor then we are all traitors because he simply gave us what we wanted and needed at the time. And now, because some find fault with his late actions and manners, they are short-sightedly(and dim-wittedly) calling for his head, not realizing that they are also condemning the idea of Biafran Actualization in the same breath.
Dim Ojukwu is a man, not a god, but he is an unalterable symbol of our struggle, whether we like it or not. History will record it just so. Those who think they are wise would do well to acknowledge this, as well as their own petty dislike of the man, whether justifiable or not. Brothers, as you have counseled, we will wait to hear(unlike others) all the facts, and then give a judicious and measured response.
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I just got back, and on board. I saw your pm, and thank you my brother.
Please inform Mr. P he has a diehard fan over here too. With such hardhitting Igbo penmen self deployed to various theatres like self-launching missiles, one is in no doubt that our flanks are well covered from the undeserved provocations of the sureptitiously malicious neo-revisionists.
I have no doubt that the bountiful seeds of a genuine renaissance has certainly been sown in the hearts and minds of our great people with the noble efforts of Mr. P and others like Mr. F not to speak of the eminent hitters such as yourself with whom this board is sufficiently endowed.
Greg,
Man you got all cylinders cranking. Bravo!!!
WHAT WAS SAID, AND WHAT WAS NOT: SIFT THE WORDS, YOU BE THE JUDGE
quote:National dialogue: I will speak for the people —Ojukwu VANGUARD Sunday, January 23, 2005
This is the temperament which I was proud that Okorie was taking. I believe he has not departed from it even though he has a right to be indignant. I have always respected Okorie, and believe that he is an Igbo champion whom we cannot afford to loose. When the dust settles I know APGA will prevail!
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COUNTER-PUNCHES: A BIT TOO PERSONAL, A BIT TOO PETTY, AND AIMED AT HUMILIATION
It is this petty personal nature of Umeh’s assaults against Chekwas Okorie that I’ve found personally offensive. I myself do not know of Umeh’s past achievements, but I respect all who have done their share to build APGA. My personal gripe has been that the Umeh faction seemed as if it was courting negative publicity for APGA every step of the way through their utterances, and frankly speaking I had not been a fan of that approach, since Chekwas was doing everything to preserve the party’s good name by restraining himself from utterances that could have been just as counterproductive if he wanted.
In any case when the full facts are out, then we will understand exactly what has happened. Brothers may fight, APGA will prevail!.
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I guess Ojukwu has spoken through Umeh and that is an enlightenment to those of you who dueled on aggressive responses or judgement against Ojukwu without the facts, quite dreadful I must say. If there is anyone whose interest is Igbo, it is Ojukwu, though dinnasourous and human, he remains an incon. Copy that.
Hail Biafra
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quote:He knows Chekwas is alone, abandoned. What he should do is to pack his load and go back to his village in Abia State. … So, let him apologise publicly and I am asking his people to go to Abuja and take him home. – Umeh
So, Umeh now sees this thing as “his people” not Igbo or APGA anymore? Guys, these fly-by nonentities in the person of this hopeless Umeh chap is the reason outsiders laugh hard at us. Why suddenly there’s this division, Abia and Anambra or is it Nnewi? This is wrong and must be condemned by all. The emphasis on Okorie’s state of origin so-called is uncalled for if you ask me. Are we still Igbo or should I now only write to defend the interest of my state IMO, which has been relatively calm despite the day light robbery by udenwa, iwuanyawu, nzeribe??? Boy, these boys are severely deficient when it comes to intelligence. Ikemba should tread very, very cautiously because this Umeh comes across to me as a big time shouter/otinkpu/sycophantic JOBBER. Ojukwu please listen to the voices on the street and be wary of the new jokers in town!
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Look at umeh sounding like OBj cronies... What account is he talking about? Is it APGA's banking account? Is umeh angry because Chekwas made some withdrawals without his(Umeh) signature? Is Chekwas sin because he sided Ngige in making sure that useless godfathers like Chris Ubah is disgraced? or because Ngige is smooching his way into the heart of the electorate by paying teachers and civil servants their rightful wages? Or is because Chekwas insinuated that Ojukwu turned against him after he spoke and met with baba iyabo?
My people u see why i am suspect of all these clowns that parade as politicians and representatives of NdiIgbo?
This is the begining, we are still waiting and watching!
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Ukaobasi, Its nice you picked up Sir Victor Umeh's 'go-back-to-your-state' nonsense. Worse still, I have heard that Sir Victor Umeh is no different from Sir Emeka Offor and if let loose will give Sir Chris Uba a run for his money. As Mebiafran pointed out elsewhere Peter Obi's silence is deafening. Not even his denial of joining Chris Uba's convoy makes sense any more. We must realise that Obasanjo is desperate to remove Ngige and will replace him with anyone. I am begining to think that Obi/Umeh godson/godfather duet will be more catastrophic than Ngige/Uba duet.
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quote:even in his own Nnewi? If Ojukwu cannot win an election as a delegate to the conference, is it not shameful that he is so willing to put himself in Obasanjo's debt by accepting an appointment to the conference from Obasanjo?
quote:I am begining to think that Obi/Umeh godson/godfather duet will be more catastrophic than Ngige/Uba duet.
CSE,
My brother, just from everything I was reading of Umeh's utterances leading up to this point, I'm disturbed that he created the impression he held personal animosity toward Chekwas Okorie, and allowed that to guide his actions. That still disturbs me, and I hope I would be proven wrong.
What Ojukwu knows about it all, is what I'm now after. I'm disturbed just as well with the deafening silence of Peter Obi at critical intervals, surely he must have his own voice. MeBiafra had since highlighted that, and one hoped that Obi would step up and establish where he stood more often, and more forcefully.
Then again, the press appears to want to interview only those sensationalists who can help them sell papers, so who knows, Obi might just not have cut it given that he would be competing with Ubah, Obasanjo,Ngige,Tafa, Ogbeh,Ojukwu, Chekwas Okorie, and now Umeh.
You wonder if he had done something real controversial like moon Obasanjo's wife in public and then perform ten naked summersaults in front of the Pope, maybe that would have gotten him some interviews to air his views?
I kinda doubt it given that Ubah and Obasanjo's boneheaded antics are simply too hard to top for the theatre of the absurd called Abuja PDP politics.
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I think Peter Obi is simply weighing his options.I really don`t think he could achieve much by being in the news all the time.I wish he could get justice at the elections tribunal.But,i know justice died in Nigeria a long time ago.He is truely the man Anambra people voted for,i hope he realizes that he does not need to dine with the devil (Uba or Obasanjo) in order to reclaim his mandate.
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