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My people, there is nothing wrong when a leader says he is sorry for his mistakes, errors and sins. Every politician these days in NIgeria takes money from Obasanjo to do one errand or another. That is what Ojukwu has done. He should say I AM SORRY and ask forgiveness.
I will surely forgive a leader who apologises for his offenses. Ojukwu is not a god, so people should know that he makes mistakes just like the other politicians.
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We have had several days of fierce debate in several threads on the present issue of AGPA, Ojukwu, Umeh, Okorie, and Obi.At no time has anyone been able to substantiate any claim or accusation that Ojukwu took money from baba iyabo. From where do you get such information that you make such a bold and unequivocal declaration. Or are you just voicing your own beliefs? Please explain. Who or what are your sources? Or are you purposefully maligning Ojukwu without proof? Your feeling about something like this is not justification for making this kind of statement as if it was a fact, which to my knowledge has never been proved. Show your PROOF, please! Nwannem, I think you have the horse behind the wagon. On a matter as important as this we should not deal in opinions, but facts. Where are your facts to support your statement?
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Maybe you can explain why Ojukwu went to Aso Rock on the 19th, came back on the 20th, and on the 21st of January started spraying money around on the Umeh group:
Before this lavish donation to Umeh and co, how many times have you read about Ojukwu donating that kind of money to anyone or any cause? Not even to the Oji River people who are crying for his help has he been so generous.
What Igbo business did Ojukwu go to Aso Rock to transact with Obasanjo on that occassion and where is his report of the transactions.
Some of you need to dig your heads out of your you-know-what.
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Nwagu Nwanne, Why are you perverting issues? Why do you describe Ojukwus meager donation of 0.5 million naira to help convene a National converge of the party as spraying of money? Are you unsinuating that the Ikemba is not capable of donating meagre five hundrded thousand naira without obj`s help. Are you saying that the Ikemba can be bought for paltry 500K ? And this in the face of 60 million naira which is the issue that chekwas is alledged to have used misused? Where did that money come from?. Bros I think you should get updated on recent facts on the following thread APGA CRISIS: CHEKWAS OKORIE, UMEH, OJUKWU, ND'IGBO (Page 2)
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Nwannem I agree that nobody should be worship like God, but please let's wait till we hear everything before we can conclude. Maybe Ikemba has another style to fight Obasanjo which you don't know.
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As I suspected, these declarations of yours are based on your feelings about the matter and have no basis in fact that you can share with us. As such, I should have ignored the topic of your thread but I like to give people the opportunity to make their case with prima facie evidence, of which you have none.
Your suspicions don't qualify as proof. You may imagine all you like but that does not make it so. If revelations surface that prove beyond a reasonable doubt what you are saying, that would be the time for your topic. But until then you are just another in a long line ill-informed persons unable to distinguish fact from the fiction of their own ideas.
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For the first time on this board, I agree with you. But, don't hold your breath. As long as there are some undiscerning people willing to do whatever it takes to join the cyber "Ikemba Front," I am sure Ojukwu will see no reason to apologize. Will someone tell me if Obasanjo has appointed him to the "National Dialogue?"
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I don't think Ojukwu has a history of making his decisions in an effort to please public opinion, which changes as often as the wind blows. It only takes a new revelation to come abroad for those who disparage him today to be his most ardent admirers tommorrow. It seems to me to be infinitely wiser to hold with the facts, move with the facts, stay with the facts, as speculation tends to give rise to falsehoods.
To be sure, there is no prohibition on this board against personal opinion since that is all most persons have, but each should be prepared to defend his position from the dissection of his views by an opposing advocate. You and others are freely able to outline your views for all to see and appreciate. However, disgruntled expressions of your exasperation with the so-called "cyber Ikemba Front" will not make the cut. The effectiveness of such efforts is as brief as the time it takes to read them.
I think most will agree that well thought out positions lend themselves to lengthy exposition and articulate expression. Otherwise our newspapers and magazines would simply be headlines only, without a body of related information. In the absence of such the reader is left with the impression that the writer's thoughts are not well organized, and not able to be readily put into print. So next time try to be a little more detailed in your analysis so that we may have something to really respond to.
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It is entirely within the realm of possibility that the things Okorie alleges are true. However, they remain allegations. You are free to join in the furtherance of the allegations if you like, but that does not mean I have to accept them as fact. I'm not privy to Ikemba's pocket-book, and, I don't think you are either. I understand that such an icon in the eyes of the people must avoid even the appearance of impropriety, and that is why many are upset, because it cannot be that they have irrefutable evidence; otherwise we would have seen it by now. Also it must be remembered that appearances can be deceiving.
As for Ojukwu's silence, I applaud him. I think a dignified statesman should not address such matters on the pages of the newspapers and tabloids. That is a matter for "inquiring minds" who want to know. Until advertised differently, I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has earned my trust with his past deeds. I really think some are offended by Ojukwu on other unrelated matters and have been looking for a way to criticize him without seeming to be unfair. Could much of the anger of this criticism have its roots in a dislike and disdain for the man's personality? It's just as much possible as the allegations you have repeated here. I, for one, am willing to wait for true judgement before I join an unruly mob and cry for his crucifixion.
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I do my best to avoid responding to members of this forum with unverifiable pedigree on issues on this board. I don't know when you joined this board. All I know is that I woke up one morning and saw that a handle named "Greg" suddenly had more posts than I had been able to keep track of, posts spanning several days or weeks when I was visiting the board regularly, and I should have noticed. It was like magic. Are you a magician? Until you clear that mystery, I will withhold further response to you.
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If you want Greg to apologise, please spell it out. The title of this thread is Ojukwu Should ApologisePosts: 9 | From: Baton Rouge | Registered: Jan 2005
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I am not magician nor is there any mystery to me. All my posts are here on this board. If what you read there makes you unable to have a discussion with me I will count it your loss. The fact that I am rather prolific in my writing attests to my ongoing interests in Southeastern Nigeria, and my profession, which is writing. I would have other and better things to do if it were not for personal ties there. I have openly said that I identify with the Igbo people because I partly hail from them if that is what you mean by unverifiable pedigree. I also am being joined to their interests by marriage. I realize that I speak as though I am full-blood Igbo but that is more because of the way I feel and the love I bear them as the only African people to which I have a biological link. As for my "pedigree," it is more enviable than you can imagine. On the one hand I am of Norman extraction, the absolute masters of many European nations for almost a thousand years, the historical Crusaders, of whom the Moslems still speak with hateful memory; the conquerors of England and the builders of the great castles and manors that dot that countryside, and many other places in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Middle East; an ancient and warlike race of people. My last name is(though probably not related) among the signatures on the Magna Carta of 1215. You can find my forbears among the recorded peerage of England as early 1485. My family here in America began to flourish in Maryland in the latter part of the late 1600's. The county of my birth(in Arkansas) is replete with descriptions of my grandfather's, great-grandfather's, and great-great grandfather's estates(that's plural, as in more than one), such descriptions being found in historical documents of the times and in the journals of civil war generals who were at times either guests or unwanted visitors. Revolutionary War era documents also describe my family's holdings in Maryland. The subject of my family occupies volumes in the libraries here in this country and I am no bastard in birth. Pedigrees? You really have no idea.
I can see you want to goad me into a proud remonstrance against your parochial observation of my ethnicity.
As for why I hail to the Igbos and identify with their struggles, I have already written why, but it matters not to me whether you discuss any issues with me or not. I don't have to prove my Igboness to you Dave. But and if I did, my own proof is rather slim, except for my Christian middle name, given to me from my great-grandmother's memory, "Akonobi." And even if you accept this, that makes me only a small part Igbo but that is all you will need know about me. I am a bit offended and dissappointed by your personal attack along racial and ethnic lines. However I am always in some sort of preparation and hardly ever taken by surprise, and will not try to censure you for your disparaging personal remarks. Such is to be expected when triumph cannot be gotten by merit. I did have another handle prior to this one but I changed it because it was too long and I felt people had a hard time responding to my posts because they had to write my long handle name. Also I thought it was somewhat presumptive on my part to address myself as such. It was "Igboafricanamerican." Is this what you mean by being a magician? My posts are still there and are consistent with all I have said. As for my Igbo, my fiancee(my wife) teaches me as I have need. I will in future refrain from making any posts to you as well but I will continue to fight for all Igbo causes and weigh in on the issues because I am personally affected everyday by them. If I had to characterize the import of your words, I'd have to compare you to one or two of my hostile future in-laws. If you don't want or appreciate my efforts, I am not concerned, as I have been warned that I may run into people like you. I enjoy being here at BNW and consider that I have friends and compatriots here if not brothers. Finally I think it is fair to say I have not built my house of glass, so I am not afraid of people who throw stones. My statements are extant and you are free to attack me using my own words. I have no fear of anything you may say that has a basis in fact, but if you seek to proscribe me from commenting on the issues I will have a response for that too.
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But for your own description of yourself as an "ungentlemanly braggart," especially as that description is supported by your Aryan-like claim of racial superiority, I could have cared less if you were a Norman, a Nomad, or even an Igbo. My curiosity and reference was aimed at your pedigree as it was reflected in your posts; if it was also a reference to your identity, it was not a reference to your descent in which I have zero interest. I am not sure that it was helpful that you wrote:
quote:I did have another handle prior to this one but I changed it because it was too long and I felt people had a hard time responding to my posts because they had to write my long handle name. Also I thought it was somewhat presumptive on my part to address myself as such. It was "Igboafricanamerican."
If I could have done so without once again frazzling your fragile nerves, I might have asked how you were able to change your handle from "igboafricanamerican" to "Greg." Is that a hack that we should all know about?
Anyway, several days ago, I was curious enough about some of your posts that I decided to click on and review your profile and posts, only to discover that the first several posts that you made on the board could not be readily traced or accounted for. It is only in that sense that I find your "igboafricanamerican" revelation useful, as I now see the continuity from "igboafricanamerican" to "Greg." Besides, your "igboafricanamerican" handle was just fine with me.
You purport to be interested in getting the facts about the Ojukwu-Okorie dispute, when, indeed, your quarrel is with the conclusions that others have reached using available facts, conclusions that you obviously disagree with.
You are of course entitled to your own analysis and conclusions. But, are you also entitled to go unscathed when you dot your posts with thinly veiled insults on the forum members with whom you disagree? Therein lies your quandary. You see, some of your "future in-laws" may let you get away with it; some will not. I am in the latter group.
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Dave, Thank you for your clarification. Obviously I misunderstood the import of your words. I have not claimed any racial superiority as you seem to imply, and please, the word "Aryan" to describe any part of me is not correct. I am simply proud of who I am, and all that I am and proud of my immediate family history. Obviously, my Igbo heritage is quite important to me as well, hence my defensive posture in response to your first post which I mistook in meaning. At any rate,I want people to be aware of whom they are corresponding with.
In answer to your question as to how I was able to change my handle, it's quite simple. I e-mailed the Administrator and asked him if it could be done. There was really no magic to that. All my previous posts under my old handle would show both handles so that people could see the two were in fact the same person. All new posts would only reflect the new handle. Is there any thing surrepticious about that?
Also I'm glad to hear that my old handle was fine with you but I didn't change it for the sensibilities of others, but for my own. I've given those reasons elsewhere in my earliest posts on this board. As for my "fragile nerves," I'm afraid you mistake the exposition of confidence in my own innate ability for something akin to weakness, for nervousness is a condition of imbalance from which only the weak-hearted suffer. However if you are well aquainted with the condition, who am I to play with semantics. Nevertheless you will find no such malady in me as you have erroneoously diagnosed.
Also I thank you for allowing me to reach my own analysis and conclusions, and I look forward to any repartee you may wish to make. I'm pleased also that you recognize my writing style and the (for the most part) harmless allusions and admonitions I make from time to time, which you call insults. To be sure, some have been a little harsh, but I felt it was needed at the time to make my point. At other times I have deleted offending utterances. If I find my wit to be unduly demeaning I amend so that it may be more palatable to the general public. At no time do I use any vulgarities to attack or counter the opinions of my opponents, but I do make use of irony and innuendo as it suits my purpose. These are an advocate's "axe and sword" and I have never hesitated to use them. If I lop off the head of your argument with one stroke, that is to my credit.
Dave, I've been looking for the quandry you said I was in, and I can't seem to find it. But if by that you mean that I can expect your thoughtful opposition in selected matters, I can only salivate in expectation, hoping that you will be partially equal to the task.
To be fair, Dave, and objectively responsive to your concern, I will at least try to be less acidic in innuendo, and more forgiving in irony, if that can be managed, and perhaps I will write my future posts with one hand tied behind my back if that will please you. Oops! I goofed.
Let me be plain, Dave. I agree with whom I agree with but the other opinions I will seek to discredit. That is rarely done by an attack on the person himself but rather on his reasoning and his method. That should be fairplay. If you have a problem with that you can make it your business to put me and my writings in check. Whether you can do that or not remains to be seen but you are welcome to try. I enjoy a good laugh every now and then.
One last thing, I'm deleting my post to you because it contains lots of personal stuff that I shouldn't have put there anyway. I have left it long enough for all to read but I don't want it part of the archives. And since it was not(according to you) a part of your original assault, the material is irrelevant.
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It is better to think before you write. That way you will have no need to resort to deleting what you wrote after it has elicited appropriate responses. Below are the posts you deleted, in order:
First deleted post by Greg---
quote: Dave,
I don't think Ojukwu has a history of making his decisions in an effort to please public opinion, which changes as often as the wind blows. It only takes a new revelation to come abroad for those who disparage him today to be his most ardent admirers tommorrow. It seems to me to be infinitely wiser to hold with the facts, move with the facts, stay with the facts, as speculation tends to give rise to falsehoods.
To be sure, there is no prohibition on this board against personal opinion since that is all most persons have, but each should be prepared to defend his position from the dissection of his views by an opposing advocate. You and others are freely able to outline your views for all to see and appreciate. However, disgruntled expressions of your exasperation with the so-called "cyber Ikemba Front" will not make the cut. The effectiveness of such efforts is as brief as the time it takes to read them.
I think most will agree that well thought out positions lend themselves to lengthy exposition and articulate expression. Otherwise our newspapers and magazines would simply be headlines only, without a body of related information. In the absence of such the reader is left with the impression that the writer's thoughts are not well organized, and not able to be readily put into print. So next time try to be a little more detailed in your analysis so that we may have something to really respond to.
Second Deleted Post by Greg!:
quote:Dave,
I am not magician nor is there any mystery to me. All my posts are here on this board. If what you read there makes you unable to have a discussion with me I will count it your loss. The fact that I am rather prolific in my writing attests to my ongoing interests in Southeastern Nigeria, and my profession, which is writing. I would have other and better things to do if it were not for personal ties there. I have openly said that I identify with the Igbo people because I partly hail from them if that is what you mean by unverifiable pedigree. I also am being joined to their interests by marriage. I realize that I speak as though I am full-blood Igbo but that is more because of the way I feel and the love I bear them as the only African people to which I have a biological link. As for my "pedigree," it is more enviable than you can imagine. On the one hand I am of Norman extraction, the absolute masters of many European nations for almost a thousand years, the historical Crusaders, of whom the Moslems still speak with hateful memory; the conquerors of England and the builders of the great castles and manors that dot that countryside, and many other places in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Middle East; an ancient and warlike race of people. My last name is(though probably not related) among the signatures on the Magna Carta of 1215. You can find my forbears among the recorded peerage of England as early 1485. My family here in America began to flourish in Maryland in the latter part of the late 1600's. The county of my birth is replete with descriptions of my grandfather's, great-grandfather's, and great-great grandfather's estates(that's plural, as in more than one), such descriptions being found in historical documents of the times and in the journals of Revolutionay war and civil war generals who were at times either guests or unwanted visitors. The subject of my family occupies volumes in the libraries here in this country and I am no bastard in birth. Pedigrees? You really have no idea.
I can see you want to goad me into a proud remonstrance against your parochial observation of my ethnicity.
As for why I hail to the Igbos and identify with their struggles, I have already written why, but it matters not to me whether you discuss any issues with me or not. I don't have to prove my Igboness to you Dave. But and if I did, my own proof is rather slim, except for my Christian middle name, given to me from my grandmother's memory, "Akonobi." And even if you accept this, that makes me only a small part Igbo but that is all you will need know about me. I am a bit offended and dissappointed by your personal attack along racial and ethnic lines. However I am always in some sort of preparation and hardly ever taken by surprise, and will not try to censure you for your disparaging personal remarks. Such is to be expected when triumph cannot be gotten by merit. I did have another handle prior to this one but I changed it because it was too long and I felt people had a hard time responding to my posts because they had to write my long handle name. Also I thought it was somewhat presumptive on my part to address myself as such. It was "Igboafricanamerican." Is this what you mean by being a magician? My posts are still there and are consistent with all I have said. As for my Igbo, my fiancee(my wife) teaches me as I have need. I will in future refrain from making any posts to you as well but I will continue to fight for all Igbo causes and weigh in on the issues because I am personally affected everyday by them. If I had to characterize the import of your words, I'd have to compare you to one or two of my hostile future in-laws. If you don't want or appreciate my efforts, I am not concerned, as I have been warned that I may run into people like you. I enjoy being here at BNW and consider that I have friends and compatriots here if not brothers. Finally I think it is fair to say I have not built my house of glass, so I am not afraid of people who throw stones. My statements are extant and you are free to attack me using my own words. I have no fear of anything you may say that has a basis in fact, but if you seek to proscribe me from commenting on the issues I will have a response for that too.
In my posts to you, I did not have the intent to put you on the defensive or to suggest that you are a fraudster. I hope you understand that.
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In case you should also wish to delete your last post to me, here it is in full:
quote:Dave, Thank you for your clarification. Obviously I misunderstood the import of your words. I have not claimed any racial superiority as you seem to imply, and please, the word "Aryan" to describe any part of me is not correct. I am simply proud of who I am, and all that I am and proud of my immediate family history. Obviously, my Igbo heritage is quite important to me as well, hence my defensive posture in response to your first post which I mistook in meaning. At any rate,I want people to be aware of whom they are corresponding with.
In answer to your question as to how I was able to change my handle, it's quite simple. I e-mailed the Administrator and asked him if it could be done. There was really no magic to that. All my previous posts under my old handle would show both handles so that people could see the two were in fact the same person. All new posts would only reflect the new handle. Is there any thing surrepticious about that?
Also I'm glad to hear that my old handle was fine with you but I didn't change it for the sensibilities of others, but for my own. I've given those reasons elsewhere in my earliest posts on this board. As for my "fragile nerves," I'm afraid you mistake the exposition of confidence in my own innate ability for something akin to weakness, for nervousness is a condition of imbalance from which only the weak-hearted suffer. However if you are well aquainted with the condition, who am I to play with semantics. Nevertheless you will find no such malady in me as you have erroneoously diagnosed.
Also I thank you for allowing me to reach my own analysis and conclusions, and I look forward to any repartee you may wish to make. I'm pleased also that you recognize my writing style and the (for the most part) harmless allusions and admonitions I make from time to time, which you call insults. To be sure, some have been a little harsh, but I felt it was needed at the time to make my point. At other times I have deleted offending utterances. If I find my wit to be unduly demeaning I amend so that it may be more palatable to the general public. At no time do I use any vulgarities to attack or counter the opinions of my opponents, but I do make use of irony and innuendo as it suits my purpose. These are an advocate's "axe and sword" and I have never hesitated to use them. If I lop off the head of your argument with one stroke, that is to my credit.
Dave, I've been looking for the quandry you said I was in, and I can't seem to find it. But if by that you mean that I can expect your thoughtful opposition in selected matters, I can only salivate in expectation, hoping that you will be partially equal to the task.
To be fair, Dave, and objectively responsive to your concern, I will at least try to be less acidic in innuendo, and more forgiving in irony, if that can be managed, and perhaps I will write my future posts with one hand tied behind my back if that will please you. Oops! I goofed.
Let me be plain, Dave. I agree with whom I agree with but the other opinions I will seek to discredit. That is rarely done by an attack on the person himself but rather on his reasoning and his method. That should be fairplay. If you have a problem with that you can make it your business to put me and my writings in check. Whether you can do that or not remains to be seen but you are welcome to try. I enjoy a good laugh every now and then.
One last thing, I'm deleting my post to you because it contains lots of personal stuff that I shouldn't have put there anyway. I have left it long enough for all to read but I don't want it part of the archives. And since it was not(according to you) a part of your original assault, the material is irrelevant.
I should caution you that space conservation is the only reason that I do not reproduce posts before I respond to them. But, those who resort to mischief should know that in 2005, there are many ways in which to send a man back to his own dustbin.
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Although I am not Igbo, I follow Igbo (and the larger Nigerian) politics well enough to know who is who. I personally think its an insult on Ojukwu for anybody to suggest that the half a million naira donation made by him was financed by Aso rock. Also, those that know Nigerian politics well enough will know that 500k (500K?!) is not enough to remove anybody! I'm not holding brief for the man but some statements are just too insulting and discourteous for some personalities.
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Good job. People should have the courage to let their posts stand after members of this forum have responded to the posts. There is something inherently suspicious about a person deleting his own posts after there has been a response to it. I will open a thread shortly about some ancillary issues from this thread.
quote:Originally posted by olusolaa: Although I am not Igbo, I follow Igbo (and the larger Nigerian) politics well enough to know who is who. I personally think its an insult on Ojukwu for anybody to suggest that the half a million naira donation made by him was financed by Aso rock. Also, those that know Nigerian politics well enough will know that 500k (500K?!) is not enough to remove anybody! I'm not holding brief for the man but some statements are just too insulting and discourteous for some personalities.
I disagree. You will be amazed at what people will do these days for even smaller amounts of money. Before now, part of Ojukwu's strength was that allegations such as the ones by Chekwas Okorie could not be credibly made about him mainly because Ojukwu himself did not have enough opportunity to get enriched during his days atop our country's politics. If Ojukwu could have refuted those allegations, he would have done so by now; that is his style. The trouble Ojukwu has now is that he has crawled into bed with Obasanjo, and Obasanjo will have to be the one to corroborate whatever defenses Ojukwu decides to mount. That is an incredibly odd position for Ojukwu to put himself in at this stage in his life. He is now at the mercy of Obasanjo.
I doubt that Chewkwas could make or sustain those allegations if they lacked merit. Those who claim that Ojukwu's "silence" is a sign of his innocense should also keep in mind that Tafa Balogun is silent about Tafa Gate.
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I know that a hungry man could do anything for a pot of porrige, but I know that Ojukwu couldn't be called hungry by any standard. I will openly apologise on this board if its ever revealed to be true that Ojukwu received anything from Obasanjo. I will also expect his accusers to do the same if (more like when) we all get to know the truth.
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I only deleted one post; the one you claimed was my second deleted post. I deleted it because of the reasons stated in my last post. The fact that you frustrated that effort is not a major defeat for me. In a way I'm glad you saved it since I had some regret about losing the effort I put in to it. I left it on the board for about 8 hours on Sunday; long enough for all to read. I just didn't want people to see the proud side of me but I can live with that being extant, I assure you. In fact it's probably better this way. If you think you've "got me" then do your worst. I am able to stand by my statements.
Fumi:
Any person has the right to edit or delete his posts within the time allotted by the rules of the board. I couldn't care less about your suspicions. If you have something you want to say about me, go ahead and knock yourself out(just an experssion). I'll be here.
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My mistake. It was two posts I deleted but the second was a very short post apologizing for my being a "braggart," not the long one that you re-printed. Also I restored my first deleted post in its finished form.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 660 | From: Valle del Sol | Registered: Nov 2004
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Dave, I'm actually surprised that you and your brother, Greg would go at each other with such viciousness as if all hopes are lost. Please gentleman wind down before this exchange takes a dangerous and irreparable turn. Ah ah!! I just finished reading you two and couldn't lay my fingers to any hotspot that might have caused this deviation. I'm not sure which of you two said that for the principle of fairness to have been followed, it is only proper that we wait for all the evidence, if any (none so far) to come out before Ikemba is hung and this too is my fortified position."Were nu ndumodu mu aaa" and stop the assault on each other since neither of you are directly involved in the misgovernance and corruption that permeated that land compliments of aremu. The author of the position that this topic ought to have come after it is established beyond every doubtfulness that Ikemba did something with aremu that goes against our collective interest only then would this thread have been appropriately applied. So, please Nwagu end this thread it is duplicitous to what has been out there by Ineba and UKA. It is also a source of pain and unfair for those of us that have soft spot for you guys to see you go at each other like this. I thank God though that what you have done so far has not gone deep enough.
BTW, olusolaa is correct I also find it somewhat amusing and unusual that all it would take for Ikemba to jump ship is a paltry $3,500, a sum that is not enough for the purchase of a Business Class air fare since First Class is way out.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2482 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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